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Re: reefer related question

Gene Green <lgreen@...>
 

--- In STMFC@..., "Clyde Williams" <billdgoat@i...> wrote:
Bill
Are you researching in order to, hopefully, write a book on those
reefer companies? I have the excellent PFE and Great Yellow Fleet
books but as a GN modeler I would love to see one come out on
FGEX/WFEX/BREX. Please tell me, and all of us, if such a book is
coming.
Bill Williams
Yes, Bill, please tell us you are working on just such a book.
Gene Green


Re: reefer related question

Clyde Williams <billdgoat@...>
 

--- In STMFC@..., "lnbill" <bwelch@u...> wrote:

In my continuing research of the Fruit Growers Express/Western
Fruit
Express/Burlington Refrigerator Express group, a 1939 document from
the FGE accounting department shows large market delivery points,
primary producing districts, and the product or produce shipped
from
the various districts. All are spelled out except one category
abbreviated "P. H. P." Because of where this falls on the chart, I
believe it is meat related, and I am guessing it is pork/hog
related.

Anyone have any ideas what this abbreviation means?

Bill Welch
Bill
Are you researching in order to, hopefully, write a book on those
reefer companies? I have the excellent PFE and Great Yellow Fleet
books but as a GN modeler I would love to see one come out on
FGEX/WFEX/BREX. Please tell me, and all of us, if such a book is
coming.
Bill Williams
Bill Williams


Re: Athearn News

Jon Miller <atsf@...>
 

You can order direct from Athearn.<
Not at my normal discount* for my regular supplier<VBG>.

*Which includes free shipping, by the way!

Jon Miller
AT&SF
For me time has stopped in 1941
Digitrax, Chief/Zephyr systems, JMRI user
NMRA Life member #2623
Member SFRH&MS


Re: Athearn News

Ted Culotta <tculotta@...>
 

On Dec 18, 2004, at 11:47 AM, Jon Miller wrote:

Finally!  Well, finally in March, but at least they are getting ready
to sell them individually<
    Great but my normal supplier has the "Horizon" problem, can't do
business with them.  Have to hunt some other place.
Jon:

You can order direct from Athearn.

Ted Culotta

Speedwitch Media
100 14th Avenue, San Mateo, CA 94402
info@...
www.speedwitch.com
(650) 787-1912


Re: Athearn News

Jon Miller <atsf@...>
 

Finally! Well, finally in March, but at least they are getting ready
to sell them individually<
Great but my normal supplier has the "Horizon" problem, can't do
business with them. Have to hunt some other place.

Jon Miller
AT&SF
For me time has stopped in 1941
Digitrax, Chief/Zephyr systems, JMRI user
NMRA Life member #2623
Member SFRH&MS


Re: Athearn News

Paul Lyons
 

Richard, Our the Athearn Allied FC trucks nicer than the Hallmark last run
brass ones?
Paul Lyons
Liguna Niguel, CA


Re: Athearn News

Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
 

Ted Culotta wrote:
HO Allied Full Cushion and Commonwealth Trucks
Finally! Well, finally in March, but at least they are getting ready
to sell them individually.
These look like nice trucks, and the Commonwealth in particular will be nice, compared to the old "shorty" Athearn express truck, about 5.5 foot wheelbase, which I believe was at best unusual.

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2942 Linden Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@...
Publishers of books on railroad history


Athearn News

Ted Culotta <tculotta@...>
 

Begin forwarded message:

From: athearn@...
Date: December 18, 2004 11:00:49 AM PST
To: Ted Culotta <tculotta@...>
Subject: Athearn News

HO Allied Full Cushion and Commonwealth Trucks
http://www.athearn.com/newsletter/1204early/HO_Trucks_1204_early.jpg
http://www.athearn.com/newsletter/1204early/HO_Trucks_1204_early.pdf
Finally! Well, finally in March, but at least they are getting ready
to sell them individually.

Regards,
Ted Culotta

Speedwitch Media
100 14th Avenue, San Mateo, CA 94402
info@...
www.speedwitch.com
(650) 787-1912


P.H.P.

charmantas
 

Hello Bill,

P.H.P. stands for Packing House Products, a term for by-products,
including "innards", lard, etc.

Charles Harmantas


Re: Cyanopoxy

Rich Ramik <rjramik@...>
 

Ted:



You're correct. It is Cyanopoxy made by Cool Chem. Go to the following
link.



http://www.coolchem.com/



Thanks,

Rich Ramik







_____

From: Ted Culotta [mailto:tculotta@...]
Sent: Friday, December 17, 2004 11:52 PM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Cyanopoxy




On Dec 16, 2004, at 3:20 PM, John Van Buekenhout wrote:

What is the trade name for the product?
I think it is cyanopoxy. I am not sure if Cool Chem is the
manufacturer or a distributor.

Ted Culotta

Speedwitch Media
100 14th Avenue, San Mateo, CA 94402
info@...
www.speedwitch.com
(650) 787-1912






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reefer related question

lnbill <bwelch@...>
 

In my continuing research of the Fruit Growers Express/Western Fruit
Express/Burlington Refrigerator Express group, a 1939 document from
the FGE accounting department shows large market delivery points,
primary producing districts, and the product or produce shipped from
the various districts. All are spelled out except one category
abbreviated "P. H. P." Because of where this falls on the chart, I
believe it is meat related, and I am guessing it is pork/hog related.

Anyone have any ideas what this abbreviation means?

Bill Welch


Re: reefer question

Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
 

Larry Jackman wrote:
Ice and water can not be at the same 32 degrees. For 32 degree water to
become Ice it must loose some more BTUs. I do not remember what the
number is. Same way 32 degree ice must gain the same BTUs to turn to
water.
Wrong, and your statement contains the explanation: if not enough energy is available to melt that ice, it can stay in the water in perfect equilibrium. If you don't believe me, you should visit the Arctic or Antarctic some spring. You will see examples.

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2942 Linden Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@...
Publishers of books on railroad history


Re: reefer question

Tim O'Connor
 

Better review your chemistry, Tim.
And you've gotta get your replies out faster Tony... we're
into advanced thermohydrodynamics now; Andy led us through
the high school chem 101, Chuck taught an introductory
course in septuagenarian nattering nabobbery, and I'm out
collecting road salt samples for an empirical study...

Tim "ice, sayeth the blind man" O'Connor


Re: reefer question

Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
 

Tim O'Connor wrote:
When salt is mixed with ice, the temperature of the melt water
will drop to freezing (32 degrees) -- which slows down melting
of larger chunks of ice. It also would severely damage produce!
Since meat was hung up it didn't come into direct contact with
the ice or water.
Better review your chemistry, Tim. The salt-water eutectic (minimum melting temperature anywhere in the system) is well below pure water freezing, in fact close to zero degrees F. Thus the addition of salt immediately means that whatever temperature the ice is at, is suddenly higher above its new melting temperature, and melting ACCELERATES. That's the whole point of salt additions, to increase cooling rate by soaking up calories faster with faster melting. But it's all in the PFE book--you can read it for yourself.

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2942 Linden Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@...
Publishers of books on railroad history


Re: ice and salt

Tim O'Connor
 


Re: Cyanopoxy

Ted Culotta <tculotta@...>
 

On Dec 16, 2004, at 3:20 PM, John Van Buekenhout wrote:

What is the trade name for the product?
I think it is cyanopoxy. I am not sure if Cool Chem is the manufacturer or a distributor.

Ted Culotta

Speedwitch Media
100 14th Avenue, San Mateo, CA 94402
info@...
www.speedwitch.com
(650) 787-1912


Re: reefer question

Ted Culotta <tculotta@...>
 

On Dec 17, 2004, at 4:50 PM, Andy Carlson wrote:

Salt plays it's part by depressing the freezing point
of water. Then the ice will become wet at lower than
32 degrees, the melt water will be colder as well.
This will HASTEN the ice melting (which is why road
departments ice the roads)
Growing up in Connecticut they salted the roads. I have only been in California for ten years, so not being a native like you Andy, I have not yet witnessed the icing of the roads, although I'd like to see it.

Regards,
Ted Culotta


Speedwitch Media
100 14th Avenue, San Mateo, CA 94402
info@...
www.speedwitch.com
(650) 787-1912


Re: reefer question

ljack70117@...
 

On Friday, December 17, 2004, at 07:50 PM, Andy Carlson wrote:


Ice and water can not be at the same 32 degrees. For 32 degree water to become Ice it must loose some more BTUs. I do not remember what the number is. Same way 32 degree ice must gain the same BTUs to turn to water. Salt forces the Ice to melt but can not do so until it picks up the extra BTUs from some where. The air salt or where ever
Thank you
Larry Jackman
ljack70117@...
Tomorrow is an other day and we'll probably mess it up also.


Re: 1932 ARA Boxcars: A Contrarian View

Ted Culotta <tculotta@...>
 

On Dec 17, 2004, at 7:24 PM, Keith Sirman wrote:


  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Ted Culotta
  To: STMFC@...
  Sent: Friday, December 17, 2004 12:46 PM
  Subject: Re: [STMFC] 1932 ARA Boxcars: A Contrarian View



  On Dec 17, 2004, at 9:40 AM, Pete Brown ((YahooGroups)) wrote:

  > BTW, is there a list of all F&C kits someplace? I couldn't find a
web
  > site
  >  for them, and I also didn't see any product information from
them on
  > the
  >  STMFC web site.

  Pete:

  www.fandckits.com

  Regards,
  Ted Culotta

  HI Ted:  Anyone carrying your book here in Canada?  I`d like to
know so I can get a copy.
  thanks,
  Keith Sirman
Keith:

I ship direct www.speedwitch.com or Central Hobbies in Vancouver should
have it.

Regards,
Ted

Speedwitch Media
100 14th Avenue, San Mateo, CA 94402
info@...
www.speedwitch.com
(650) 787-1912


Re: 1932 ARA Boxcars: A Contrarian View

Keith Sirman <keith.sirman@...>
 

----- Original Message -----
From: Ted Culotta
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Friday, December 17, 2004 12:46 PM
Subject: Re: [STMFC] 1932 ARA Boxcars: A Contrarian View



On Dec 17, 2004, at 9:40 AM, Pete Brown ((YahooGroups)) wrote:

> BTW, is there a list of all F&C kits someplace? I couldn't find a web
> site
> for them, and I also didn't see any product information from them on
> the
> STMFC web site.

Pete:

www.fandckits.com

Regards,
Ted Culotta

HI Ted: Anyone carrying your book here in Canada? I`d like to know so I can get a copy.
thanks,
Keith Sirman

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