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Re: Intermountain George Railroad Single Sheathed
Richard Dermody <ddermody@...>
Steve, Look in Classic Freight Cars, Vol 1, page 39, same car number. Dick |
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Re: Intermountain George Railroad Single Sheathed
Richard Hendrickson
Steve Sandifer asks:
I just saw the new Intermountain George Railroad Single Sheathed car. CanSteve, these are Tichy kits which InterMountain sends to China for assembly, painting, and lettering. The prototype crs were USRA 50 ton composite box cars built during WW I which the Georgia RR rebuilt with single steel sheathed sides and corrugated steel doors in the late 1930s and early '40s. The model is mostly correct but the roof is wrong. Tichy puts the original USRA roof in the kits but the rebuilt Georgia RR cars had either Zenith (similar to Hutchins) roofs or home made welded steel roofs. You're better off building the Tichy kit yourself, putting on a correct roof, and doing your own painting and lettering. Also, before/during/after WW II most of these cars were painted aluminum with black lettering; the models represent the mineral red paint applied to the early (ca. 1936-'38) rebuilds and to all of the cars in the 1950s. Richard H. Hendrickson Ashland, Oregon 97520 |
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Intermountain George Railroad Single Sheathed
Steve Sandifer <jssand@...>
I just saw the new Intermountain George Railroad Single Sheathed car. Can anyone comment on its prototypical accuracy.
http://www.walthers.com/exec/productinfo/85-452602 -------------------- J. Stephen (Steve) Sandifer mailto:steve.sandifer@... Home: 12027 Mulholland Dr., Meadows Place, TX 77477, 281-568-9918 Office: Southwest Central Church of Christ, 4011 W. Bellfort, Houston, TX 77025, 713-667-9417 Personal: http://users2.ev1.net/~jssand/index.htm Church: http://www.swcentral.org Railway: http://www.trainweb.org/jssand Webmaster: http://www.ATSFRR.net |
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ADMIN: Moderate Jail
Mike Brock <brockm@...>
I guess it's time to make it clear to the members that group policy does not include criticizing manufacturers. Criticizing products of a manufacturer...or praising...is entirely within scope. We've been over this several times before and the result of generally taking issue with a manufacturer does not provide meaningful and useful results. Again, analysis of a product is useful...to both the buyer and the seller.
I would again suggest that members should pay particular attention to the mandate that discussion of software subjects...unless directly tied to a frt car issue...is out of scope. Some seem to ignore warnings about out of scope subjects. One moderate citation was handed out today and a member has been placed in moderate jail because of failure to follow very public warnings. The subject matter for this group is clearly defined in the group rules: "Members are permitted to criticize or praise manufacturer's products free from criticism from other members. Criticism of a manufacturer's business practices is, however, not within the scope of the group. ALL SUBJECTS OTHER THAN THOSE DIRECTLY ASSOCIATED WITH STEAM ERA FREIGHT CARS ARE PROHIBITED FROM MEMBER MESSAGES. Thus, all admin, security, or "policing" functions will be conducted only by myself or my representatives. Warnings about virus activity is strictly prohibited. Threads or subjects may be terminated only by myself or my representatives. When threads/subjects are terminated, members are expected to avoid sending messages associated with such threads/subjects." Mike Brock STMFC Owner |
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Re: Mainline Modelers Freight cars vol 1
James F. Brewer <jfbrewer@...>
I checked my Volume 1 and Volume 2...neither include this car.
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From: "Lynn Finch" <lmfin@...> To: <STMFC@...> Sent: Saturday, October 23, 2004 7:49 PM Subject: [STMFC] Mainline Modelers Freight cars vol 1
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Re: ADMIN: Moderate Jail
Greg Martin
But wha' we want ta know is how long ya gonna keep 'em in Jail Sheriff and is
dere gonna be a lynchin' #^) Greg "Festus" Martin |
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Re: Domion car
Rob Kirkham <rdkirkham@...>
Let me be clear about my point Allen. I understand from reading your e-mail sent to another list that the dimensions used on this car - prototype and model - are as follows:
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Comparing the model dimensions to the dimensions of the Prototype car, as depicted on Canadian Car and Foundry drawing H320, which is a manufacturing drawing of a typical Fowler car produces the following result: Top of Rail to Bottom of Side Sill CC&F Prototype: 40.25 in. Hobbcraft: 40 in. Top of Rail to Top of Running Board CC&F Prototype: 160.5 in. Hobbycraft: 161 in. Bottom of Side Sill to Roof Eave CC&F Prototype: 102.188 in. Hobbycraft: 102 in. My own measurements (not precise) agree with those numbers. They also match the drawings in Mainline Modeller from June 1985 as close as I can read them with a scale rule. So there is a lot that is right about the model. Which is why I wrote "looks like it rides too high on the trucks". Its the relative relationship between the two components that is the concern. I suspect it was introduced to accomodate NMRA flanges, but that's just a guess. I just laid my model over the Mainline Modeller drawings and the difference appears to be that on the prototype the top edge of the sideframes of the trucks sit at a height from the rail head that is 2 or 3 inches above the bottom of the bolsters. On the model, the top edge of the truck side frames sit approximately level with the bottom of the bolsters. Further, on the MM drawings, the top of the truck wheels appears to be higher from rail head than the bottom of the steel centre sill. Not so on the model. Maybe its an illusion - could it be that the steel centre sill does not sit the right height above the tracks? On the drawing it looks like the centre sill bottom should be about 10 inches lower than the bottom of the side sill. On the model it looks about 4 inches. Maybe that is the problem? Happy to hear from anyone who can tell me how to get this model looking "right". Rob Kirkham
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From: Alan C. Welch To: STMFC@... Sent: Saturday, October 23, 2004 9:00 AM Subject: Re: [STMFC] Domion car - (was Too rich for me) At 06:04 PM 10/21/2004 -0700, you wrote: >I've purchased a "Domion car" - if you are referring to the new model out >from Life Like Canadian HobbyCraft. > > > - the car looks like it rides to high on the trucks - > >Rob Kirkham You may feel that this is the situation, but it is not. Al Welch |
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Re: Replicating lettering streaking down the carside
In addition to washes and chalks, you can use an airbrush with a
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paper "mask". For letters cut an opening the width of the letter and hold it so the letter is exposed but above the letter is masked. Hit the edges of the paper with diluted white (or whatever color). (In other words aim the airbrush at the paper, not at the model.) Experiment with it to learn how to get sharp edges / fuzzy edges / uniform streaks / streaks that fade from top to bottom / etc. A set of artist's pencils (or the chalk pencil Greg mentioned) is great to have in your toolbox. You can highlight individual rivets with rust, accentuate seams, darken door tracks and tack boards, etc. I like "French Grey" for chalk marks because white is really too bright except for marks that are five minutes old. Good pencils are pigment-based and are not changed by clear overcoats. Once you get good control with airbrushing, you can just use Post-It's or index cards as masks. Now I make masks for special cases, mostly. I've got a couple of cars that are completed, painted, decaled and |
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Re: Mainline Modelers Freight cars vol 1
jimbojk2003
--- In STMFC@..., "Lynn Finch" <lmfin@c...> wrote:
Does anyone know if Mainline Modelers best of freight cars, Vol 1includes the B&O M53 wagon top boxcars?It does not;however,there is an excellent article on B&O wagontops in the no.9 issue of Railway Prototype Cyclopedia. Regards,Jim Cummings |
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NS 1947 10-6 40' boxcar #27088
Andy Carlson
Anyone on this list desiring a low res JPEG of this
NS boxcar, with a reweigh date of 1-1957, send me an off-list email requesting this color view. -Andy Carlson Ojai CA < midcentury@... > |
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Re: Mainline Modelers Freight cars vol 1
Rob Adams
Lynn;
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The copy I have does not. Kind regards, Rob Adams Lynn Finch wrote: Does anyone know if Mainline Modelers best of freight cars, Vol 1 includes |
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Re: Domion car - (was Too rich for me)
Andy Carlson
Al,
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being a Canadian expert, can you comment on Byron Rose's observations of these cars he made to you last year at Naperville??? Thanks, -Andy Carlson --- "Alan C. Welch" <acwelch@...> wrote: - the car looks like it rides to high on thetrucks -You may feel that this is the situation, but it is |
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Mainline Modelers Freight cars vol 1
w2msj
Does anyone know if Mainline Modelers best of freight cars, Vol 1 includes
the B&O M53 wagon top boxcars? Lynn |
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Re: F&C Web Page is online
Brian Paul Ehni <behni@...>
Which is exactly why I gave their webmaster a polite rely, telling him what
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behavior I saw on the site. -- Brian Ehni From: "Rev. Bob 'Bob' Crispen" <revbob@...> |
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Re: Replicating lettering streaking down the carside _MY METHOD
Milepost 131 <mp131@...>
This seems to work well for me...
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I use acrylic paint. I match the color of the lettering. I apply small drops or a "line" to the actual point on the letter and then I pull a dry cloth in the direction of the streak. (Let's face it you're really streaking paint.) If I want it more faint I dampen the rag first. The less paint and the more the streak will come to a fine point. I'm doing it in N scale so it shoul,d work even better for you big guys. Gordon Andrews
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From: Tim O'Connor [mailto:timboconnor@...] Sent: Saturday, October 23, 2004 7:45 PM To: STMFC@... Subject: Re: [STMFC] Replicating lettering streaking down the carside In addition to washes and chalks, you can use an airbrush with a paper "mask". For letters cut an opening the width of the letter and hold it so the letter is exposed but above the letter is masked. Hit the edges of the paper with diluted white (or whatever color). (In other words aim the airbrush at the paper, not at the model.) Experiment with it to learn how to get sharp edges / fuzzy edges / uniform streaks / streaks that fade from top to bottom / etc. A set of artist's pencils (or the chalk pencil Greg mentioned) is great to have in your toolbox. You can highlight individual rivets with rust, accentuate seams, darken door tracks and tack boards, etc. I like "French Grey" for chalk marks because white is really too bright except for marks that are five minutes old. Good pencils are pigment-based and are not changed by clear overcoats. Once you get good control with airbrushing, you can just use Post-It's or index cards as masks. Now I make masks for special cases, mostly. I've got a couple of cars that are completed, painted, decaled and Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT click here <http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=129soktnd/M=315388.5497957.6576270.3001176/D=gr oups/S=1705169725:HM/EXP=1098657028/A=2372354/R=0/SIG=12id813k2/*https://www .orchardbank.com/hcs/hcsapplication?pf=PLApply&media=EMYHNL40F21004SS> <http://us.adserver.yahoo.com/l?M=315388.5497957.6576270.3001176/D=groups/S= :HM/A=2372354/rand=732573973> _____ Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/STMFC/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: STMFC-unsubscribe@... <mailto:STMFC-unsubscribe@...?subject=Unsubscribe> * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> . |
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Re: Produce Lists and consists
Roger Hinman <rhinman@...>
Not an easy thing to look up right away but I'll put it on my list as I go through these and let you know if I find anything
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On Oct 23, 2004, at 11:24 AM, Andy Laurent wrote:
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Re: F&C Web Page is online
Rev. Bob 'Bob' Crispen
The voices are telling me Brian Paul Ehni said on 10/23/2004 4:51 PM:
Then you shouldn't go to Walthers, either. Or a lot of places, I expect.Well yeah, but since Walthers never actually *has* anything, it's pointless warning them off of there. ;-) Actually, F&C got screwed. They deserve our pity, not our censure. -- Rev. Bob "Bob" Crispen bob at crispen dot org Ex Cathedra Weblog: http://blog.crispen.org/ Flexibility has its virtues. No one was more decisive than George Armstrong Custer and the last thing that went through his mind was an arrow. -- after Argus Hamilton |
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Re: F&C Web Page is online
Brian Paul Ehni <behni@...>
Then you shouldn't go to Walthers, either. Or a lot of places, I expect.
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http://validator.w3.org/check?verbose=1&uri=http%3A//www.walthers.com -- Brian Ehni From: "Rev. Bob 'Bob' Crispen" <revbob@...> |
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Re: Replicating lettering streaking down the carside
Gary Laakso <glaaks0@...>
Where does one look for Bragdon's supplies?
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Re: F&C Web Page is online
Rev. Bob 'Bob' Crispen
The voices are telling me Jeff Lodge said on 10/19/2004 8:19 PM:
After way too long - 20 months - the Funaro and Camerlengo web site is up and running. It can be found at www.fandckits.comIt's traditional when people announce new websites for me to play the part of the grinch and note how the site doesn't validate: <http://validator.w3.org/check?verbose=1&uri=http%3A//www.fandckits.com/> However, this goes beyond the usual warnings! NOBODY should visit this website! At least until I've got those covered hopper kits safely in my workshop. Then you can visit the site. I'll let you know. ;-) -- Rev. Bob "Bob" Crispen bob at crispen dot org Ex Cathedra Weblog: http://blog.crispen.org/ Flexibility has its virtues. No one was more decisive than George Armstrong Custer and the last thing that went through his mind was an arrow. -- after Argus Hamilton |
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