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NRC express reefer 600 in 1933

Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 


NP express reefer in 1925

Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 

Hi List Members,
 
I thought some might enjoy this image of an NP express reefer in 1925 ...
 
 
Enjoy!
 
Claus Schlund
 
 


This B&O steel gon traveled far

Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 

Hi List Members,
 
This B&O steel gon traveled far to be in the same place as the NP pile driver in the 1924 image below...
 
 

Enjoy!
 
Claus Schlund
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

 


PRR G31D gon in dedicated service

Gatwood, Elden J SAD
 

Folks;

 

Do any of you have any info on how this car was used?

 

I should be able to find how this car being PRR was used by Reading to service their customer, but haven’t been able to.  Philmont, PA is not necessarily the location of the shipper.

 

Interesting car…..

 

Elden Gatwood


Re: Southern Pacific B-50-25 Box Car Kit Question

Tim O'Connor
 


Intermountain's roof is not the best, and there were possibly underframe differences, and the SP cars had
doors you must obtain from Southwest Scale Productions - But other than that I know of no reason why you
cannot easily model a B-50-25 starting with the 12 panel body with 6 foot doors. You want the 3/4 end with
no narrow top rib. The B-50-27 had the same style ends as the GN (and SP&S) cars.



On 12/14/2020 10:16 PM, WILLIAM PARDIE wrote:

In the recent discussion on the Great Northern 12 panel boxcar a reference was made to the SP B-50-25 car.  The kit was offered by both Speedwitch and Andy Carlson.  The Speedwitch instructions noted that the kit would produce a close facsimile  
as it used the body from the Intermountain GN car.
Does anyone know what the discrepancy is?

I came across an article in a recent RMC where the modeler reduced the height of three C&BT cars to model the B-50-25.  He did a variety of running boards and brake wheels on his9 models.Way back  Richard Hendrickson did an article in Prototype Modeler in which he reduced the height of a plastic boxcar to do this car.  Would reducing the C&BT model produce a more accurate model?

Bill Pardie


--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: Weathering thoughts

 

I use Dullcote through an airbrush, and subscribe to the wet application to allow leveling, but not as heavy as demonstrated in the VLS video. I have applied Dullcote that thick via their rattle can, but it resulted in a bit of an orange peel effect. 

That said, the end result of that thick application was impressive. Thanks for sharing the link, Scott. I started one of the Night Shift videos last night - thanks for sharing that, Bruce.

Matt Goodman
Columbus Ohio US

On Dec 14, 2020, at 4:41 PM, Scott <repairman87@...> wrote:

Night shift is great.  I ordered the clear coats from VMS hobbies that he calls magic juice and he wasn't lieing.  Virtually no frosting and very minimal color shift.  The finished texture is smooth too for a satin or flat.  Smooth enough to decal over a satin finish for sure.  Satin is pretty close to our flat.

They are kind of spendy and take a while to get from Poland but they will be my go to for now.

Here is a video from VMS hobbies showing how to apply thier varnish and how well it hides decal edges 

VMS Hobbies Clear Varnish

Scott McDonald


Re: Southern Pacific B-50-25 Box Car Kit Question

Tony Thompson
 

BILL PARDIE wrote:

I came across an article in a recent RMC where the modeler reduced the height of three C&BT cars to model the B-50-25.  He did a variety of running boards and brake wheels on his9 models.Way back  Richard Hendrickson did an article in Prototype Modeler in which he reduced the height of a plastic boxcar to do this car.  Would reducing the C&BT model produce a more accurate model?

      Richard inspired me to do the same C&BT conversion, and it worked well. As with all conversions of those car bodies, ALL. and I mean ALL, detail parts are launched into the bin before starting any other work. Includes trucks and wheel sets. Then you have a decent car body to cut down, easy project.

Tony Thompson




Southern Pacific B-50-25 Box Car Kit Question

WILLIAM PARDIE
 

In the recent discussion on the Great Northern 12 panel boxcar a reference was made to the SP B-50-25 car.  The kit was offered by both Speedwitch and Andy Carlson.  The Speedwitch instructions noted that the kit would produce a close facsimile  
as it used the body from the Intermountain GN car.
Does anyone know what the discrepancy is?

I came across an article in a recent RMC where the modeler reduced the height of three C&BT cars to model the B-50-25.  He did a variety of running boards and brake wheels on his9 models.Way back  Richard Hendrickson did an article in Prototype Modeler in which he reduced the height of a plastic boxcar to do this car.  Would reducing the C&BT model produce a more accurate model?

Bill Pardie$




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From: <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of "Bob Chaparro via groups.io" <chiefbobbb@...>
Reply-To: <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Date: Tuesday, December 8, 2020 at 12:38 PM
To: <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Photo: ATSF Boxcar 140177 Bx-34 (1940)

 

Photo: ATSF Boxcar 140177 Bx-34 (1940)

A photo from the Denver Public Library:

https://digital.denverlibrary.org/digital/collection/p15330coll22/id/55040/rec/49

Click on the arrows in the upper right hand corner of the photo to enlarge it and scroll to enlarge it further.

Notice the curved-line map. Later that year boxcars generally started to receive the straight-line map. This change occurred in April 1940 for newly built Bx-34 boxcars.

The opposite side of this car had the Scout passenger train advertisement.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: Weathering thoughts

Dennis Storzek <destorzek@...>
 

Nice varnish. It appears to work much like Dullcote and Glosscote USED to work, many years ago.

I'm surprised Gene Deimling hasn't spoken up about some of the weathering work being done in Proto:48. This is worth a look: 
https://myp48.wordpress.com/2020/08/09/modeling-lee-turners-technique/

Dennis Storzek


Re: Weathering thoughts

Scott
 

Night shift is great.  I ordered the clear coats from VMS hobbies that he calls magic juice and he wasn't lieing.  Virtually no frosting and very minimal color shift.  The finished texture is smooth too for a satin or flat.  Smooth enough to decal over a satin finish for sure.  Satin is pretty close to our flat.

They are kind of spendy and take a while to get from Poland but they will be my go to for now.

Here is a video from VMS hobbies showing how to apply thier varnish and how well it hides decal edges 

VMS Hobbies Clear Varnish

Scott McDonald


Items for sale

Greg Silva
 

Good evening, and please excuse the cross-postings.  I have a listing available of items for sale (all HO, no brass or anything exotic).  If you would like a copy please contact me off list:  runeighty at aol dot com.  Thanks.


Re: Private-Wood sheathing differential weatheri

thomas christensen
 

The specification for the wood sides and slope sheets is 2 3/8" thick. The ACL used 1/4" steel sheet for replacement side and slope sheets. The side thickness on my modified ACL steel rebuild measures @ 4"(measured at the rib above the bolster). I don't have a wood  sheathed car to measure, but would guess it's  not different than the steel side version. Adding more than a decal to represent the wood interior results in a side many times to thick.
Tom Christensen 





On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 8:42 PM, Steve SANDIFER
<steve.sandifer@...> wrote:

If you look at the prototype photos, wood in the real cars added to the thickness too. It takes a thick piece of wood to equal the strength of a thin piece of steel.

 

 

J. Stephen Sandifer

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Andy Carlson
Sent: Wednesday, December 9, 2020 12:20 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Private-Wood sheathing differential weathering reasons

 

My thoughts exactly!

-Andy

 

On Wednesday, December 9, 2020, 10:15:04 AM PST, jerryglow2 <jerryglow@...> wrote:

 

 

Don't those laser cut interiors add to the side's thickness? This seems it would destroy some of the illusion we're trying to achieve.



Re: Weathering thoughts

Pierre Oliver
 

I can fully endorse Bruce's upsell of Martin Kovac.
I've learned quite a few things watching Martin's videos, as well as gaining fuller knowledge about finishing products that we don't see in model railroad shops

Pierre Oliver
www.elgincarshops.com
www.yarmouthmodelworks.com
On 12/14/20 11:49 a.m., Bruce Smith wrote:

Folks,

Following on the Delano weathering thread and several other discussions of weathering, and in an attempt to cross-pollinate with some of the extraordinary work done by military modelers, I have to admit that I'm addicted to "Uncle Night Shift".

I don't know if you've ever seen any of his YouTube videos, but this guy, Martin Kovac, from "eastern Europe" (I'm guessing Hungary?), is a weathering guru! He's also a touch nuts and often very funny 🙂. He'll build up a really nice armor model in 20-30 hours, and then spends up to 80 hours (yes, 80!) painting and weathering!  https://www.youtube.com/c/NightShiftScaleModels/featured

I'm not going to go that far, and some of his approaches don't scale from 1/32 or 1/48 to HO, but he's certainly inspiring. I'm saving "the full monte" extreme weathering (for an in-service car) for an Overland Jordan Spreader that's been sitting on my bench for... um... two... um... decades....🙄 Can you say Holiday Project?!!

Regards,
Bruce 
Bruce Smith
Auburn, AL


Weathering thoughts

Bruce Smith
 

Folks,

Following on the Delano weathering thread and several other discussions of weathering, and in an attempt to cross-pollinate with some of the extraordinary work done by military modelers, I have to admit that I'm addicted to "Uncle Night Shift".

I don't know if you've ever seen any of his YouTube videos, but this guy, Martin Kovac, from "eastern Europe" (I'm guessing Hungary?), is a weathering guru! He's also a touch nuts and often very funny 🙂. He'll build up a really nice armor model in 20-30 hours, and then spends up to 80 hours (yes, 80!) painting and weathering!  https://www.youtube.com/c/NightShiftScaleModels/featured

I'm not going to go that far, and some of his approaches don't scale from 1/32 or 1/48 to HO, but he's certainly inspiring. I'm saving "the full monte" extreme weathering (for an in-service car) for an Overland Jordan Spreader that's been sitting on my bench for... um... two... um... decades....🙄 Can you say Holiday Project?!!

Regards,
Bruce 
Bruce Smith
Auburn, AL


Re: What is a "Manuta gondola"?

Dave Parker
 

My Dad gave me that AHM Wabash 2-6-0 for Christmas, maybe 1968.  Mine came painted.  OK runner IIRC; I should put on a test track now.
--
Dave Parker
Swall Meadows, CA


Re: What is a "Manuta gondola"?

Kenneth Montero
 

 
AHM also imported a brass
-- 2-10-4 PRR J-1. Item 402.
-- 4-6-4 Milwaukee Baltic. Item 405.
-- 4-6-2 Pacific AT&SF. Item 425
 
Here is a link to more locomotives: http://ho-scaletrains.com/ahm-brass-steam-locomotives/ It does not list the AT&SF locomotive, but photos of that locomotive with a box label for AHM show up in an online search
 
Ken Montero
 

On 12/13/2020 11:42 AM Louis Adler <lsainnwa@...> wrote:
 
 
I have no idea who is the manufacturer, but until someone can specifically identify the product producer, I would not jump to the conclusion that it is not Mantua.  Why?  How many know that AHM (Yes, that AHM) produced a brass NYC 4-6-4 in the 1970's?   I actually saw the engine as it was bought by a Dallas model RR friend who brought it to the standard Friday lunch group.  As far as I know, it was the only brass product that AHM produced.

While I doubt that the gondola is a Mantua product, I would not discount it without some hard evidence.  Perhaps Mantua wanted to test the brass import waters just as AHM did..

Lou Adler


Re: What is a "Manuta gondola"?

Daniel A. Mitchell
 

While I think it VERY unlikely that Mantua had anything to do with the odd brass gondola in question, remember that Mantua got started offering BRASS locomotive kits. These were mostly models of wide-firebox anthracite burners (Reading RR? with arched-top cab windows. I don’t recall what variations there were, but IIRC there were 0-4-0 (Camelback “Goat”), 4-4-2, and 4-6-2 at least. Construction was sheet brass similar to later imported brass models but you had to assemble them yourself.

Only the little "Goat” survived in new form in Mantua’s later die cast and plastic eras.  In this later time they also did several other Camelbacks.

Dan Mitchell
==========



On Dec 13, 2020, at 12:16 PM, Daniel A. Mitchell <danmitch@...> wrote:

I don’t know of any NYC 4-6-4 by AHM, but they did have a Milwaukee Road “Baltic” 4-6-4 in brass. Kind of “Plain Jane”, but typical of the period.

Dan Mitchell
==========

On Dec 13, 2020, at 11:42 AM, Louis Adler <lsainnwa@...> wrote:

I have no idea who is the manufacturer, but until someone can specifically identify the product producer, I would not jump to the conclusion that it is not Mantua.  Why?  How many know that AHM (Yes, that AHM) produced a brass NYC 4-6-4 in the 1970's?   I actually saw the engine as it was bought by a Dallas model RR friend who brought it to the standard Friday lunch group.  As far as I know, it was the only brass product that AHM produced.

While I doubt that the gondola is a Mantua product, I would not discount it without some hard evidence.  Perhaps Mantua wanted to test the brass import waters just as AHM did..

Lou Adler



Re: What is a "Manuta gondola"?

Schuyler Larrabee
 

AHM did a PRR S2 as well.

 

Schuyler

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Daniel A. Mitchell
Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2020 12:17 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] What is a "Manuta gondola"?

 

I don’t know of any NYC 4-6-4 by AHM, but they did have a Milwaukee Road “Baltic” 4-6-4 in brass. Kind of “Plain Jane”, but typical of the period.

 

Dan Mitchell

==========



On Dec 13, 2020, at 11:42 AM, Louis Adler <lsainnwa@...> wrote:

 

I have no idea who is the manufacturer, but until someone can specifically identify the product producer, I would not jump to the conclusion that it is not Mantua.  Why?  How many know that AHM (Yes, that AHM) produced a brass NYC 4-6-4 in the 1970's?   I actually saw the engine as it was bought by a Dallas model RR friend who brought it to the standard Friday lunch group.  As far as I know, it was the only brass product that AHM produced.

While I doubt that the gondola is a Mantua product, I would not discount it without some hard evidence.  Perhaps Mantua wanted to test the brass import waters just as AHM did..

Lou Adler

 


Re: What is a "Manuta gondola"?

Daniel A. Mitchell
 

I don’t know of any NYC 4-6-4 by AHM, but they did have a Milwaukee Road “Baltic” 4-6-4 in brass. Kind of “Plain Jane”, but typical of the period.

Dan Mitchell
==========

On Dec 13, 2020, at 11:42 AM, Louis Adler <lsainnwa@...> wrote:

I have no idea who is the manufacturer, but until someone can specifically identify the product producer, I would not jump to the conclusion that it is not Mantua.  Why?  How many know that AHM (Yes, that AHM) produced a brass NYC 4-6-4 in the 1970's?   I actually saw the engine as it was bought by a Dallas model RR friend who brought it to the standard Friday lunch group.  As far as I know, it was the only brass product that AHM produced.

While I doubt that the gondola is a Mantua product, I would not discount it without some hard evidence.  Perhaps Mantua wanted to test the brass import waters just as AHM did..

Lou Adler


Re: What is a "Manuta gondola"?

Louis Adler
 

I have no idea who is the manufacturer, but until someone can specifically identify the product producer, I would not jump to the conclusion that it is not Mantua.  Why?  How many know that AHM (Yes, that AHM) produced a brass NYC 4-6-4 in the 1970's?   I actually saw the engine as it was bought by a Dallas model RR friend who brought it to the standard Friday lunch group.  As far as I know, it was the only brass product that AHM produced.

While I doubt that the gondola is a Mantua product, I would not discount it without some hard evidence.  Perhaps Mantua wanted to test the brass import waters just as AHM did..

Lou Adler

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