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Re: Ulrich Car
Jeff Aley - GCD PE <jaley@...>
On Sep 19, 5:11pm, Beckert, Shawn wrote:
Subject: [STMFC] Re: Ulrich Car Shawn, I believe it's based on an Espee GS gon. You'll have to ask a "publisher of books on railroads and on Western history" for the exact SP class. It is also very similar to the UP G-50-7 (the ends are different). The Red Caboose RTR car 8-( is a UP G-50-11, -13, or (if you add a Duryea u/f) G-50-14. Regards, -Jeff -- Jeff Aley jaley@... DPG Chipsets Product Engineering Intel Corporation, Folsom, CA (916) 356-3533 |
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Re: Ulrich
thompson@...
Jon Miller said:
Interesting Jeff, the car appears to be made of metal. It also appearsSteve Gill now owns the (formerly damaged) ex Ulrich, ex Walthers dies, and is doing the cars in styrene. I assume the dies are repaired. Shawn Beckert then asked: And what prototype does this little beast represent, anywho?Shawn! Shame on you! Buy the book <g>, and no prizes for guessing which book. It's from a group of 4250 nearly identical cars, VERY different than the RC or DA cars. Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA 2942 Linden Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 http://www.signaturepress.com (510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@... Publishers of books on railroads and on Western history |
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Re: The End of The "Kit"
ljack70117@...
You did not understand my question. I understand the history of Hong Kong.
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When Hong Kong was returned to China, All the businesses were left alone by the Chinese government to continue their capitalist ways. Bachmann is a subsidiary of this Hong Kong company. The Hong Kong company owns Bachmann and calls the shots. This company had their own factory there. I see no reason to close it and make stuff in "China" Thank you Larry Jackman Philip Dove wrote: Also when did Bachmann go to China for production? They are owned by acompany in Hong Kong and they have their own Factory. |
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Re: Ulrich Car
Shawn Beckert
Jeff sez:
Easy: 1) It's a kit !Oh gawd, another shake the box kit - and I thought we were supposed to LIKE fiddly parts here. And what prototype does this little beast represent, anywho? Shawn Beckert, deeply skeptical... |
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Re: Ulrich Car
Jeff Aley - GCD PE <jaley@...>
On Sep 19, 4:57pm, Beckert, Shawn wrote:
Subject: [STMFC] Re: Ulrich Car Shawn, Easy: 1) It's a KIT ! 2) It's a different prototype. 3) It's a KIT! 4) It doesn't have a lot of fiddly parts to assemble -- did you see the brake rigging? One quick shake of the box, and voila! 8-) -Jeff -- Jeff Aley jaley@... DPG Chipsets Product Engineering Intel Corporation, Folsom, CA (916) 356-3533 |
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Re: Ulrich Car
Shawn Beckert
Jeff Aley wrote:
Let's go back to freight cars -- cars like the "new" UlrichS'plain to me how this is going to compete with Red Caboose and DA. Shawn Beckert |
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Re: Ulrich
Jon Miller <atsf@...>
Interesting Jeff, the car appears to be made of metal. It also appears
to have "some" inside rivet detail which I don't think the last runs of Ulrich had. Who makes it? I thought the Ulrich molds (and name) were bought by someone (Bowser perhaps)! Jon Miller AT&SF For me time has stopped in 1941 Digitrax DCC owner, Chief system NMRA Life member #2623 Member SFRH&MS |
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The End of The China discussion
Jeff Aley - GCD PE <jaley@...>
Gang,
As some have noted, this topic has wandered away from discussions of Freight Cars and their models, and into the realm of politics, international trade, and world history. Let's go back to freight cars -- cars like the "new" Ulrich gondola at http://www.railstop.com/Products/Ulrich/gs-sample.asp . Thanks, -Jeff STMFC Deputy Moderator -- Jeff Aley jaley@... DPG Chipsets Product Engineering Intel Corporation, Folsom, CA (916) 356-3533 |
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Re: The End of The "Kit"
thompson@...
Larry Jackman said:
I see no reason to close it and make stuff in "China"Then I'd say you don't know much about either Hong Kong or China, Larry. The cramped and old spaces in Hong Kong are being rapidly superseded by modern, larger factories on the mainland; and the labor force there is plentiful, cheaper and eager to work. Even relative to Hong Kong. Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA 2942 Linden Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 http://www.signaturepress.com (510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@... Publishers of books on railroads and on Western history |
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Re: Murphy's Law - was Pre-Assembled Cars
paulbizier <pbizier@...>
--- In STMFC@y..., "Marty McGuirk" <mac@i...> wrote:
Some good news that actually ties into the topic for this list:car, and the design of the HO car is well along. They ran in large blocks onthe Central Vermont in the 1950s, so we decided to produce them in bothscales. . . and I almost mean that seriously.Well, Murphy's Law strikes again - I just bought a couple of Accurail reefers to hack, and have a Sunshine reefer on the shelf as well. Marty - Which series are you going to produce? And when will the HO version be available? Paul |
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Re: UTLX NG conversions
Earl Tuson
From: "Beckert, Shawn" <shawn.beckert@...>I have no idea where PBL got their data from; I got mine from a short car history by Bill Horky included within their lengthy instructions (24 pages plus addenda,) which, besides being "chatty," give the impression that research has been done. That car history states that 34 UTLX 6000 gallon cars were converted between 1924 and 1930. They were later leased to other companies (Texaco, Conoco.) Car numbers are not given for the preconversion cars. I don't know if this number includes both the Van Dyke cars and the X design conversions or not. There was also a three part narrow gauge tank car article series in the 7-8/78, 9-10/78, and 11-12/80 NG&SLG. I only have the third part on Conoco cars, while the others covered UTLX and Texaco, repsectively. The Conoco article talks about "building" tank cars at Alamosa, but I sincerely doubt the narrow gauge shops could make the tanks, I would interpret this as "convert" or "place purchased tanks onto fabricated underframes." There is a bunch more there, but it is hard to make sense of. They mention 46 known CONX cars (might that include former UTLX cars mentioned above??) If you need more, it sounds like that Robb book may be useful. I am not a narrow gauge fan; I just want to convert one of the UTLX cars back to standard gauge! The Sn3 kit provides me with the tank, loads of detail parts (many extra pieces included,) and decals, and I have standard gauge underframe drawings from an old CBC. Earl Tuson __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! http://sbc.yahoo.com |
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Re: Red Caboose X-29 Patch Panels
Mont Switzer <ZOE@...>
THE BLANK DECAL PAPER THAT WALTHERS SELLS IS ABOUT THE THICKEST THAT I HAVE
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RUN INTO AND MIGHT DO THE JOB. IF NOT, YOUR SUGGESTION OF MULTIPLE LAYERS IS A GOOD IDEA. I AGREE THAT THE THICKER THE BETTER IN THIS APPLICATION. MONT
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From: Tim O'Connor <timoconnor@...> To: <STMFC@...> Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2002 10:21 PM Subject: Re: [STMFC] Re: Red Caboose X-29 Patch Panels PAINT IT THE SAME COLOR AS YOUR CAR. THEN CUT OUT THE DECAL SECTIONS THAT YOU |
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Re: The End of The "Kit"
JGG KahnSr <jacekahn@...>
And it can even be said to have a railroad theme...
Jace Kahn Mostly Fairbanks Try: http://www.rutland.com/polish/polish.htm . _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx |
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B&O M-26D's with Duryea Underframes
Shawn Beckert
Fellow Listers,
Poring over Ted Culotta's database once more, (see how much we're relying on you, Ted?) I note that the M-26D's in series 272500-273499 came with Duryea underframes. This makes the Red Caboose "ARA" kits painted and lettered for this number series incorrect. IIRC, Martin Lofton's "minikit" this past year was a Duryea underframe. How hard would it be to take that underframe and mate it to the RC carbody? Was there any difference from road to road as to the basic dimensions of Duryea-equipped 40' boxcars? If so, then what kit did Martin have in mind to be used with his Duryea underframe? Shawn Beckert |
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Re: The End of The "Kit"
Philip Dove <pdove@...>
Also when did Bachmann go to China for production? They are owned by acompany in Hong Kong and they have their own Factory. Hong Kong was a British Colony till 1997 when it reverted to China. If Bachmann was there then it was just that the province changed hands, as had been agreed about 150 years ago when the British got Hong Kong & The new territories in a peace deal after winning a war to have the right to sell Opium to China. For some reason the Chinese Emperor didn't want the population whacked out of their minds all the time. Regards Philip Dove |
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Fw: [steamloco] Ratios
armprem
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From: "Armand Premo" <armprem@...> To: <steamloco@...> Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 7:50 AM Subject: [steamloco] Ratios After analyzing consists of one road and one train, for a period of oneC&O hoppers never showed up.Before I draw any conclusions,I would have tothis will generate a lenghty discussion.AP |
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Re: The End of The "Kit"
ljack70117@...
The money going to the manufacturer in China is going to the Chinese Army. How do you expect them to
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buy US of A secrets and a President? They pay their workers as little as they can. Also when did Bachmann go to China for production? They are owned by a company in Hong Kong and they have their own Factory. Thank you Larry Jackman Tim O'Connor wrote: Jerry, surely you don't expect us to believe that a factory worker inIt's getting away from freight cars rather, but someone is making quite aAgreed, and that is the purpose of business, to make money, the more the |
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Re: Walthers Catalog-Wabash WWII emergency Gons and Westerfield
Richard Hendrickson
I was perusing the 2003 Walthers catalog yesterday....These are R&C re-runs of the kits they originally made for the RPI hobby shop. The pattern work was, IIRC, pretty good and as F&C has improved their quality control these are probably good kits as resin kits go. And the Wabash did have war emergency composite 40' gondolas, so you may want to build one. Richard H. Hendrickson Ashland, Oregon 97520 |
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Re: Walthers Catalog-Wabash WWII emergency Gons and Westerfield
tcschc <tculotta@...>
--- In STMFC@y..., "skunkskunk2001" <fwj@m...> wrote:
F&C has Wabash WWII emergency Gons listed with a photo.The F&C gons and the forthcoming gon from Sun are two different beasts. The one from Sun is a steel gon while the F&C version is composite, although both are of AAR design. For a detailed look at the composite ones (courtesy of a lot of info from Chet French) click here: http://www.steamfreightcars.com/gallery/gon/wab13000main.html Regards, Ted |
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P&N Box Car Help
golden1014
Gentlemen,
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The question below has stymied everybody on the Seaboard-Coast Line group. Can anyone offer any insight? Thanks! John Golden Travis AFB, CA **************
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From: Robert E. Lucas Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 12:38 PM Subject: P&N Box Cars Would you know any information sources for the Pressed Steel Car Co.? PSC built 165 single sheathed 1 1/2 door 40' auto boxcars for the Piedmont and Northern Railway in 1925. In 1939, the AC&Y acquired 150 cars second-hand for revenue (tire) service, some as late as 1970. I've been in touch with Tom Fetters, author of the Golden West P&N book, but am still looking for more on the P&N 24,000 series cars when still in service on the "Electric Railway of the South". Bob Lucas, Publications Editor - AC&Y HS ===== __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! http://sbc.yahoo.com |
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