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Photo: C.P. Flat Car 30257 With Two Waterous Fire Pumpers (Undated)
Photo: C.P. Flat Car 30257 With Two Waterous Fire Pumpers (Undated) A photo from the National Archives of Canada: https://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/CollectionSearch/Pages/record.aspx?app=FonAndCol&IdNumber=3284885 This photo can be enlarged quite a bit. Equipment is from the Waterous Company, which is still in business. Bob Chaparro Hemet, CA
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Photo: Grand Trunk Flat Car 60303 Steam Road Roller & Fire Pumper (Undated)
Photo: Grand Trunk Flat Car 60303 Steam Road Roller & Fire Pumper (Undated) A photo from the National Archives of Canada: https://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/CollectionSearch/Pages/record.aspx?app=FonAndCol&IdNumber=3284906 This photo can be enlarged quite a bit. Equipment is from the Waterous Company, which is still in business. Bob Chaparro Hemet, CA
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Suggestions? - Livestock Cars & Operations Books
Suggestions? - Livestock Cars & Operations Books I'm looking for books on livestock cars and operations. So far, my very short list includes:
Does anyone have additional suggestions? Thanks. Bob Chaparro Hemet, CA
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Re: partial view of a HERCULES POWDER tank car
Norm Buckhart
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On Nov 15, 2020, at 11:28 AM, Tom Madden via groups.io <pullmanboss@...> wrote: Here's a Hercules acid tank I photographed on the CNJ at Lake Junction, NJ in November 1961. UTLX 14505. Great lettering scheme.
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Re: partial view of a HERCULES POWDER tank car
Tom Madden
Here's a Hercules acid tank I photographed on the CNJ at Lake Junction, NJ in November 1961. UTLX 14505. Great lettering scheme.
Tom Madden
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Decals for scale locations and light weights just need the B&O
I've got all the major roads on the spreadsheet and see that the B&O was missing. If someone can furnish the top 5 or 6 scales for the B&O I’ll add these and start scanning photos for Hubert’s reference.
I know the Mopac’s light weight and month and year were 3 inches tall - were there any exceptions (taller lettering) to this? Charlie -- Charlie Duckworth Omaha, Ne.
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Re: Ann Arbor Hutchins End (was FW&D 7231 Accurail kitbash)
Eric Hansmann
Those are cool looking parts, Rob!
Eric Hansmann Murfreesboro, TN
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert kirkham
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2020 12:27 PM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: [RealSTMFC] Ann Arbor Hutchins End (was FW&D 7231 Accurail kitbash)
Hi Craig,
Attaching a couple of photos of the first version of the Hutchin ends for the Accurail kitbash. Here are the issues I see: - printed flat, the overall surface is good until one looks at the edges. They have diagonal striations so would need filling and Archer rivets used to correct the surfaces. - As you can see, the parts have a flange in back to help locate the sides. While it fits nicely into the car bottom, up top its a little tight. So it may be a bit too wide, and so would need to be thinned down by the modeller (or I will edit the drawing once I have it verified.). - The gussets at the bottom look to extend downward a little far, so would need to be sanded shorter once installed. - I’m not sure if the ledge for the floor to mount into is the correct depth. But, those are all elements I can fix. So far, pretty pleased with this option.
Rob
On Nov 14, 2020, at 6:00 PM, Craig Wilson <agecompanyphotog@...> wrote:
Looking forward to seeing this one. Did you get the Shapeways parts for the complete ends yet? If so, what is your opinion of them? Craig Wilson
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Re: Chicagoland 2019 Minikit
Eric Hansmann
Another great looking model, Bob! Nice work.
What did you use for the Carmer uncoupling hardware?
Eric Hansmann Murfreesboro, TN
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bob Chapman
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2020 12:07 PM To: STMFC E-List <main@Realstmfc.groups.io> Subject: [RealSTMFC] Chicagoland 2019 Minikit
It seemed appropriate to work on Chicagoland’s 2019 Minikit the weekend of this year’s scheduled event. A thanks to George Toman, Lester Breuer, and John Golden, whose earlier posts offered inspiration and useful tips. My effort mostly followed the basic Chicagoland instructions, with a few exceptions.
Chicagoland supplied resin diagonal corner braces in two different widths (.040” and .060”) for top and bottom, while prototype photos show a consistent width of about .060”; I substituted .010” x .060” styrene strip for the cast resin braces. Accurail’s outside-brace members are channels vs. the prototype’s Z-members; following George’s lead, I added .010” x .040” styrene strips atop the channels (yes, Accurail’s riveted bottom flanges face the wrong way on the verticals, but a small price for those neat Z-shadows like George’s). Weathering is a combination of washes, powders, and pencils.
Regards, Bob Chapman
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Re: Chicagoland 2019 Minikit
Tom Madden
Beautiful work, as always, Bob. And the resin castings and decals are available as a mini-kit from Resin Car Works:
http://resincarworks.com/decals_parts.htm Tom Madden
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Re: National Car Company
Walter
The 2464 looks like it was taken in Burlington, Iowa. I used a lot of MNX cars for potato loading.
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Re: Chicagoland 2019 Minikit
Paul Doggett
Bob Paul Doggett
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Re: Chicagoland 2019 Minikit
Lester Breuer
Bob another fine build. Nice weathering.
Lester Breuer
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Re: Chicagoland 2019 Minikit
James Brewer
Great looking car Bob! Love the weathering.
Jim Brewer
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Re: Ann Arbor Hutchins End (was FW&D 7231 Accurail kitbash)
Couple of additional observations:
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- the panel lap joint feels a little heavy and - the panel joint needs rivets. (They were on there, but must have been lost during editing.) Rob
On Nov 15, 2020, at 10:27 AM, Robert kirkham <rdkirkham@...> wrote: Hi Craig,
Attaching a couple of photos of the first version of the Hutchin ends for the Accurail kitbash. Here are the issues I see: - printed flat, the overall surface is good until one looks at the edges. They have diagonal striations so would need filling and Archer rivets used to correct the surfaces. - As you can see, the parts have a flange in back to help locate the sides. While it fits nicely into the car bottom, up top its a little tight. So it may be a bit too wide, and so would need to be thinned down by the modeller (or I will edit the drawing once I have it verified.). - The gussets at the bottom look to extend downward a little far, so would need to be sanded shorter once installed. - I’m not sure if the ledge for the floor to mount into is the correct depth. But, those are all elements I can fix. So far, pretty pleased with this option. Rob On Nov 14, 2020, at 6:00 PM, Craig Wilson <agecompanyphotog@...> wrote: Looking forward to seeing this one. Did you get the Shapeways parts for the complete ends yet? If so, what is your opinion of them?
Craig Wilson
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Ann Arbor Hutchins End (was FW&D 7231 Accurail kitbash)
Hi Craig,
toggle quoted messageShow quoted text
Attaching a couple of photos of the first version of the Hutchin ends for the Accurail kitbash. Here are the issues I see: - printed flat, the overall surface is good until one looks at the edges. They have diagonal striations so would need filling and Archer rivets used to correct the surfaces. - As you can see, the parts have a flange in back to help locate the sides. While it fits nicely into the car bottom, up top its a little tight. So it may be a bit too wide, and so would need to be thinned down by the modeller (or I will edit the drawing once I have it verified.). - The gussets at the bottom look to extend downward a little far, so would need to be sanded shorter once installed. - I’m not sure if the ledge for the floor to mount into is the correct depth. But, those are all elements I can fix. So far, pretty pleased with this option. Rob
On Nov 14, 2020, at 6:00 PM, Craig Wilson <agecompanyphotog@...> wrote: Looking forward to seeing this one. Did you get the Shapeways parts for the complete ends yet? If so, what is your opinion of them?
Craig Wilson  
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Chicagoland 2019 Minikit
Bob Chapman
It seemed appropriate to work on Chicagoland’s 2019 Minikit the weekend of this year’s scheduled event. A thanks to George Toman, Lester Breuer, and John Golden, whose earlier posts offered inspiration and useful tips. My effort mostly followed the basic Chicagoland instructions, with a few exceptions.
Chicagoland supplied resin diagonal corner braces in two different widths (.040” and .060”) for top and bottom, while prototype photos show a consistent width of about .060”; I substituted .010” x .060” styrene strip for the cast resin braces. Accurail’s outside-brace members are channels vs. the prototype’s Z-members; following George’s lead, I added .010” x .040” styrene strips atop the channels (yes, Accurail’s riveted bottom flanges face the wrong way on the verticals, but a small price for those neat Z-shadows like George’s). Weathering is a combination of washes, powders, and pencils.
Regards,
Bob Chapman
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Re: Was there ever a clinic on Delano-based paint and weathering?
Paul Koehler
Andy:
You are not alone with this affliction.
Paul
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Andy Carlson
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2020 12:45 AM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: [RealSTMFC] Was there ever a clinic on Delano-based paint and weathering?
On Saturday, November 14, 2020, 10:28:00 PM PST, np328 <jcdworkingonthenp@...> wrote: Andy, ***************** Jim Dick - St. Paul, MN
I have increasingly found that as I age, my interpretation of time seems to lag a lot. When we are 20 years old, 5 years ago is a long time. Now approaching 70 I am constantly reminded that I under estimate time spans. Where I think of 10 years as truly long ago, I am on mid-century time in my thinking. It seems that I need to adapt a "fudge factor" and automatically add extra years for any of my time estimates. I can't believe I am the only one inflicted this way!
Richard's SRO success was well deserved, his presentations were indeed "must see".
You all do well, -Andy Carlson Ojai CA
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Re: Early 20th Century Freight Cars Photograph
I messed with it a bit & came up with this.
Tom
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Re: Decaling and future
radiodial868
That's good news. I use MicroSet and Badger Softening solution all the time over 10 year old future and it always dries back up clear again. Some stubborn decals have required many applications of the pin prick and softening solution trick to get it right.
------------------- RJ Dial Mendocino, CA
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Re: partial view of a HERCULES POWDER tank car
Probably series 90000 to 99999 - yes, UTLX really did have THOUSANDS of these cars! But of course they were on hundreds of different leases. On 11/15/2020 10:14 AM, Claus Schlund \(HGM\) wrote:
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Tim O'Connor Sterling, Massachusetts
 ICC105 UTC X-5 HerculesPowder ammonia TaylorYard LosAngelesCA circa 1959.Gerstley.jpg)
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