More penance needed, I said Superior door but in fact it is a Youngstown door. I also failed to note these were originally Pere Marquette Automobile DD cars. Bill Welch

Bill all is forgiven. I was trying to think of an appropriate penance, but anyone who harvests 330 rivets from Athearn bluebox bodies for one model has done penance and then some. The boys in the

Hello Group! As a followup to Bill Welch's report below, I have just received six beautiful SSC prints from Keith. He was quick to answer and did so with what has always been his kind and interested

Garth Thank you I thought the C&EI car had a radial roof looking at the photo. I have two Wabash F&C kits which I thought would be a reasonable starting point 1 Wabash and 1 C&EI Thank you Paul

Paul, Just checked my 1958 ORER. The CE&I car is an XM car, and does not list any end doors. There is no mention of end doors on the Wabash car, but they may be there welded shut (some similar Wabash

Doug, Virginia Chemical was indeed at the end of the NF&D West Norfolk branch, and was AFIK the only customer at that time I was stationed in nearby Portsmouth (1982-1983). While I took photos of the

Cheers Allen, most are correctable but the ends are the major item I need to find out about. Thanks Paul Doggett

In addition to the floor previously noted there are several detail differences: Roof Corners notched on C&EI Tack Board Locations one high, one middle Bottom Rib on Doors on C&EI is shorter Side

That's the best answer I've heard all day. Ron Merrick

Thanks everyone for the EXCELLENT help. It would appear that the transition from VSX to VCSX occurred late 1961 or early 1962. Allen Cain

You caught me Doug. I call it "Modeler's Compromise"—what I do when trying to get all the details on yet accepting not everything lines up as expected. I do it instead of throwing it on the floor

Bill as always, outstanding work. I do have what may be a technical question: Looking at the close up of the door area details, I noticed the door seems to be sitting lower than the angle iron side

Thanks to all who helped. Great info! I also want to give a shout out to Broadway Limited. The sent a copy of the artwork drawing and ORER for the closest year they had with the company listed. Allen

Johannes Thank you Paul Doggett

And the Wabash car has grab irons instead of side ladders. Johannes

Hello Paul, the floor of the Wabash car is a fishbelly type, whereas the C&EI is "flat". Greetings Johannes modeling the early post-war years up to about 1953

Hi what are the ends on the C&EI car and are the any other major differences between them. Paul Doggett England 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

Virginia Chemical was/is located in West Norfolk,apart of Portsmouth Va. It was serviced by the Atlantic & Danville, later the Norfolk, Franklin and Danville, NS, and now I believe by a short line

 Bill, This is indeed a work of art! Claus Schlund

Hello Bill, this is just great looking! Strange ends, retainer on the "wrong" side - a real stand-out car. Greetings Johannes modeling the early poat-war years up to about 1953 Gesendet: