A fantastic discussion. Loaded with information and I am looking forward to the Tangent GATC type 30 hopefully in both 8K and 10K versions with AB brakes. Shifting my plain black tank fleet emphasis

Photo: S.P. Gondola 53336 & U.P. Gondola (1921) A fair quality photo from the Vintage Portland

I think we have enough information now to make a rough approximation of the GATX fleet composition in the late 1940s. Assuming that the GATX WW1 fleet buildup (1651 cars in 1914 to 10806 in 1920) was

Garth: I visited that same collection about 15 years after you did (more because of a box-car there), and have a couple of pix of this BMX car. I will add yours to my album. At the time, I did not

Dave, Barrett Tarvia? Would these two photos be of help? This car is part of a private collection in East Barnet, Vermont. I photographed it (with permission) about 2000. Yours Aye, Garth Groff 🦆

Thank you for pointing this out Bob! David Lehlbach

All: Many thanks to both Steve and David for jogging my feeble memory about the 1922-47 data in the Epstein book. I knew they were there, but had never gotten around to studying them. I want to make

David, In real life, I am a scientist. I form hypotheses based on the available evidence, and when that evidence changes, I am happy to adjust my hypothesis. The data you have provided is really

Hello Jim, RP Cyc #35 lists for $75 and my price is $65.00 plus $7.00 for shipping. I take checks or for credit cards my processor adds 6% Rails Unlimited Ted Schnepf 126 Will Scarlet, Elgin, Ill.

Sorry, I know how to post off list I honestly thought I hit the private button Jim

David Lehlbach wrote: Actually, David, I was agreeing with Bruce's opinion that the Type 17 doesn't allow one to, as it were, "create a complete GATC fleet." As a 1953 modeler, I have four of

Guys, Thanks to Dave Parker for sharing his research from Railway Age tabulations and subsequent analysis on the likely GATC production numbers for the first years of General American production,

Reserve one copy for me. James Dick 1974 Hamline Ave No Roseville, MN 55113-5808 I might stop by and pick it up if I and the wife head down your way. Meanwhile, a check for......?

Please reserve one for me.Armand Premo

Hello Everyone, The RP Cyc #35 has arrived and is ready to ship at a discount. Contact me off list if interested. The book is expected to be out of print in a few weeks. Rails Unlimited Ted

Let me add a bit more to what Dave is saying. Attached is an Excel file of data gleaned from GATX 1898-1948 A History of the General American Transportation Corporation by Ralph C. Epstein. There is

Tony: I don't have all of the 1930s ORERs, but I have enough to be able to sketch out the basics of the GATC fleet growth via acquisition. Note that many of the mid-1930s ORERs did not have car

Dave Parker (in an informative post) wrote: And when quite a few smaller leasing companies went under, or changed business model, and sold their entire fleets to GATC. Richard Hendrickson tracked

Well, I do have some numbers that may or may not shed any light on the question of the abundance of GA 1917 design cars. First, a reminder that the 1917 design represented the advent of MCB/ARA Class

Photo: PRR Tank Car 454815 (1910) A photo from the Hagley Digital