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Re: is this a top chord reinforcement

Robert Allan
 

Thanks for sharing this lovely photo of a class GML gondola. Lots to take in. This car must some interior loading device based on the bolt heads on the car side. Many cars had Carmer cut levers, however this car has top mounted rod variety.

Lots of general wear and tear.

The Reading Company Technical and HIstorical Society "Bee Line" latest issue (V 41 issues 1 &2 ) has a very nice feature on this car class.

Bob Allan
Omaha
Re: Jim Kinkaid's Freight Car Photos Collection

Steve and Barb Hile
 

Here is an update to the Jim Kinkaid Collection on the Pullman Library site.

We have added the A section railroads that were not initially available.

Please be aware that although Smug Mug offers the option of purchasing paper prints at prices not too much higher than what RR photo vendors charge, it was neither Jim's nor our intention to charge for the images.

There is a Download symbol on the left hand side of the screen that will allow you to download the image displayed.


Of course, for Windows users, there is the Right Click - Save As process, as well.

Thanks to Dick Harley for some hand holding!

Please enjoy the collection responsibly.

Steve Hile

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To: MFCL@groups.io, RockIslandLines@..., main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Cc: Bob Webber
Subject: Jim Kinkaid's Freight Car Photos Collection

Back in the days of the Yahoo groups, Jim Kinkaid posted a large number of builder's photos, mostly Pullman Standard, to the files area of the Modern Freight Car list.  It was not possible to migrate those photos to the groups.io platform that our groups have now migrated to.

However, through the efforts of MFCL list owner, Jim Eager and Jim Kinkaid, himself, we are now able to make those photos available again on a Smug Mug site that can be accessed from the Pullman Library website at


Thanks to Bob Webber, the curator of the Pullman Library, for making this possible.

And a special thanks to Jim Kinkaid for adding more photos to the file so that the time period extends back to include car built before the time period of the MFCL.  So, there is a lot of items of interest to freight car fans, including a nice selection of Rock Island cars for folks on that list.

Please take a look and enjoy.

Steve Hile
Re: Photo: N&W Livestock Car 27603

James Brewer
 

N&W Class SH stock car; more info on this class from the NWHS Archives:

https://www.nwhs.org/archivesdb/listdocs/select.php?index=rs&id=1758

Jim Brewer
Re: Who manufactured this car?

Patrick Wade
 

I still run an Ulrich box car. I bought it from Walther's as I recall, in the 1960's. But as I recall the outside Z bracing was pot metal though and not brass. It is one of my favorite models.

Pat Wade
Santa Barbara, CA

On Sat, Jan 23, 2021 at 7:09 PM Kenneth Montero <va661midlo@...> wrote:
Chuck,
 
I believe that is an Ulrich model that first appeared in 1960. See below from  from HO Seeker.com
 
Ken Montero
On 01/23/2021 4:25 PM Chuck Cover <chuck.cover@...> wrote:
 
 
Hi,

Looking for some help identifying the manufacturer of this model.  The model has wood sides and ends, has white metal bolsters, and has brass pieces that act as roof cross braces (not sure what to call them) and brass z-braces for vertical and diagonal side supports.  I purchased this model many years ago and it has been operating on my layout.  I would like to learn something about it.  Thanks

Chuck Cover
Santa Fe, NM

Re: Who manufactured this car?

Kenneth Montero
 

Chuck,
 
I believe that is an Ulrich model that first appeared in 1960. See below from  from HO Seeker.com
 
Ken Montero

On 01/23/2021 4:25 PM Chuck Cover <chuck.cover@...> wrote:
 
 
Hi,

Looking for some help identifying the manufacturer of this model.  The model has wood sides and ends, has white metal bolsters, and has brass pieces that act as roof cross braces (not sure what to call them) and brass z-braces for vertical and diagonal side supports.  I purchased this model many years ago and it has been operating on my layout.  I would like to learn something about it.  Thanks

Chuck Cover
Santa Fe, NM

Re: Photo: N&W Livestock Car 27603

John Holmes
 

Notice that the door opens to the left, not to the right.

John Holmes

On Jan 23, 2021, at 12:48 PM, Bob Chaparro via groups.io <chiefbobbb@...> wrote:



Photo: N&W Livestock Car 27603

A photo from the Virginia Tech Universities Library:

https://imagebase.lib.vt.edu/image_viewer.php?q=ns2776

Click on the photo to enlarge it.

Possibly built in 1914.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA
Re: is this a top chord reinforcement

mopacfirst
 

That's a partial top chord reinforcement.  This type of reinforcement, using a piece of angle, was pretty common.  It only needed to be partial, not end-to-end, as a rule, because in the center part of the side was where the greatest bending moment was.

Ron Merrick
is this a top chord reinforcement

David
 

Yes, it is an additional angle piece to stiffen the top of the side. Retrofitting this angle was typically done some time after the car was built, but sometimes it was an as-built feature.

David Thompson
Re: Who manufactured this car?

Clark Propst
 

Neat old model in a completely bogus paint scheme. That scheme was introduced in 1952. That type of car would be gone or on it’s way out then. I have an old Varney single sheathed box car in that same paint. As they say Flash sells  ;  ))

Clark Propst

 

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is this a top chord reinforcement

Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 

Hi List Members,
 
The link below shows a RDG gondola. Along the top chord, I see an area that has been altered - is this a top chord reinforcement, or is this damage that has not yet been repaired?
 
 
 
Claus Schlund
 
Re: Who manufactured this car?

Daniel A. Mitchell
 

Similar seam-caps were offered in several kit lines, and they were available as separate detail parts. Some were made of brass and some from thin sheet steel.

The general constuction is simialr to both Silver Streak and Ulrich kits of the period, but the car’s proportions don’t look like either. There were many other companies offering similar kits too. The riveted corner posts are unusual.

Dan Mitchell
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On Jan 23, 2021, at 4:40 PM, Eric Hansmann <eric@...> wrote:

I built a Silver Streak kit years ago with similar seam caps on the roof. 


Eric Hansmann
Murfreesboro, TN

On Jan 23, 2021, at 3:25 PM, Chuck Cover <chuck.cover@...> wrote:

Hi,

Looking for some help identifying the manufacturer of this model.  The model has wood sides and ends, has white metal bolsters, and has brass pieces that act as roof cross braces (not sure what to call them) and brass z-braces for vertical and diagonal side supports.  I purchased this model many years ago and it has been operating on my layout.  I would like to learn something about it.  Thanks

Chuck Cover
Santa Fe, NM
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Re: Who manufactured this car?

Eric Hansmann
 

I built a Silver Streak kit years ago with similar seam caps on the roof. 


Eric Hansmann
Murfreesboro, TN

On Jan 23, 2021, at 3:25 PM, Chuck Cover <chuck.cover@...> wrote:

Hi,

Looking for some help identifying the manufacturer of this model.  The model has wood sides and ends, has white metal bolsters, and has brass pieces that act as roof cross braces (not sure what to call them) and brass z-braces for vertical and diagonal side supports.  I purchased this model many years ago and it has been operating on my layout.  I would like to learn something about it.  Thanks

Chuck Cover
Santa Fe, NM
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Re: Who manufactured this car?

O Fenton Wells
 

Could that be an old Ulrich kit?


On Sat, Jan 23, 2021 at 4:25 PM Chuck Cover <chuck.cover@...> wrote:
Hi,

Looking for some help identifying the manufacturer of this model.  The model has wood sides and ends, has white metal bolsters, and has brass pieces that act as roof cross braces (not sure what to call them) and brass z-braces for vertical and diagonal side supports.  I purchased this model many years ago and it has been operating on my layout.  I would like to learn something about it.  Thanks

Chuck Cover
Santa Fe, NM



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Who manufactured this car?

Chuck Cover
 

Hi,

Looking for some help identifying the manufacturer of this model.  The model has wood sides and ends, has white metal bolsters, and has brass pieces that act as roof cross braces (not sure what to call them) and brass z-braces for vertical and diagonal side supports.  I purchased this model many years ago and it has been operating on my layout.  I would like to learn something about it.  Thanks

Chuck Cover
Santa Fe, NM
Re: 100-ton Andrews trucks in HO

Tony Thompson
 

Jeff Ford wrote:

. . . others have adapted the old MDC heavy duty truck with outside hung brake beams by sawing off the roller bearings and transplanting plain bearing journal boxes.  Apparently the trickiest part is gluing the slippery deleon plastic.

Canopy glue worked for me, as I explained in a blog post.

Tony Thompson
Photo: N&W Livestock Car 27603

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: N&W Livestock Car 27603

A photo from the Virginia Tech Universities Library:

https://imagebase.lib.vt.edu/image_viewer.php?q=ns2776

Click on the photo to enlarge it.

Possibly built in 1914.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA
Re: SP 75320 new 1924

Bob Chaparro
 

Class S-40-4.
Notice "Central Pacific" between SP and car number.
Bob Chaparro
Hemet, CA
FW: [RealSTMFC] Jim Kinkaid's Freight Car Photos Collection

David
 

Atlas Powder tank car built 9-15 (with a raised walkway) and an AC&&Y hopper car built 10-19

APCX 1058 is one of those high-walkway cars (probably) built by Pennsylvania Tank Car with the underframe later used by Standard Tank Car.

AC&Y 7042 is probably ex-Clinchfield.

David Thompson
Re: Whose hopper cars were these?

Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 


Hi List Members,
 
Thanks to everyone for the great information. I had seen cars of this unique construction type in images before, but I could never make out the reporting marks.
 
See image below for one such example taken on the DL&W - in the string of hoppers third car from the left
 
 
Claus Schlund
 

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Sent: Friday, January 22, 2021 6:41 PM
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Whose hopper cars were these?

B&LE is the likely candidate, though Carnegie Steel also had cars of
this design.
Ralston builder's photo:
http://columbusrailroads.com/Ralston%20photos/ralston-142-1914-B&LE.JPG

David Thompson
100-ton Andrews trucks in HO

David
 

The PA&McKR 90-ton Andrews trucks were used under PSCX 1091, a sample battleship gondola built by Pressed Steel Car in 1921 that shows up in the '20s CBCs. This car was leased to Virginian for most of the 1920s. Pittsburgh Allegheny & McKees Rocks ended up with a number of PSC sample cars over the years.

David Thompson
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