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Re: Group of automobile boxcars May 31, 1949

Lee Singletary
 

Also be aware that in Pensacola that Frisco interchanged cars with the L&N for the Port of Pensacola.  Could be cars headed for the docks.

Lee


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Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Group of automobile boxcars May 31, 1949

Charlie,
Being a Pensacola native, I believe that is the old Newport Industries plant. They made some type of products using tree stumps. They were adjacent to the Frisco yard and actually had an 0-4-0 fireless made by Heisler for interplant switching.

Lee 



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Sent: Sun, Nov 15, 2020 1:46 pm
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Group of automobile boxcars May 31, 1949

While I was sorting photos for the reweigh project I can across this small shot (2 3/4” by 4 1/2”) Art Johnson taken at Pensacola, Florida.  Behind the Frisco VO-660 is from left to right a PRR, ATSF, Soo Line, T&NO, MP and CoG 50 boxcars.  Anyone know of the industry in the background and why the wide assortment of road names?

Charlie Duckworth 




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Charlie Duckworth 
Omaha, Ne.


Re: Group of automobile boxcars May 31, 1949

Lee Singletary
 

Charlie,
Being a Pensacola native, I believe that is the old Newport Industries plant. They made some type of products using tree stumps. They were adjacent to the Frisco yard and actually had an 0-4-0 fireless made by Heisler for interplant switching.

Lee 



-----Original Message-----
From: Charlie Duckworth <omahaduck@...>
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Sent: Sun, Nov 15, 2020 1:46 pm
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Group of automobile boxcars May 31, 1949

While I was sorting photos for the reweigh project I can across this small shot (2 3/4” by 4 1/2”) Art Johnson taken at Pensacola, Florida.  Behind the Frisco VO-660 is from left to right a PRR, ATSF, Soo Line, T&NO, MP and CoG 50 boxcars.  Anyone know of the industry in the background and why the wide assortment of road names?

Charlie Duckworth 




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Charlie Duckworth 
Omaha, Ne.


Re: Chicagoland 2019 Minikit

gtws00
 

That’s a really great looking build. Well done! Nice to see another one all built and weathered up.
Thanks for sharing
George Toman


Group of automobile boxcars May 31, 1949

Charlie Duckworth
 

While I was sorting photos for the reweigh project I can across this small shot (2 3/4” by 4 1/2”) Art Johnson taken at Pensacola, Florida.  Behind the Frisco VO-660 is from left to right a PRR, ATSF, Soo Line, T&NO, MP and CoG 50 boxcars.  Anyone know of the industry in the background and why the wide assortment of road names?

Charlie Duckworth 




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Charlie Duckworth 
Omaha, Ne.


Photo: Intercolonial Railway Flat Car 15377 (Undated)

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: Intercolonial Railway Flat Car 15377 (Undated)

A photo from the National Archives of Canada:

https://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/CollectionSearch/Pages/record.aspx?app=FonAndCol&IdNumber=4942978

This photo can be enlarged quite a bit.

Sort of an odd duck. Undated but probably no later than 1918.

Intercolonial Railway:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intercolonial_Railway

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: Chicagoland 2019 Minikit

Clark Propst
 

You went the extra mile on this one Bob. Weathering is superb.

Clark Propst

 

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Photo: C.P. Flat Car 30257 With Two Waterous Fire Pumpers (Undated)

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: C.P. Flat Car 30257 With Two Waterous Fire Pumpers (Undated)

A photo from the National Archives of Canada:

https://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/CollectionSearch/Pages/record.aspx?app=FonAndCol&IdNumber=3284885

This photo can be enlarged quite a bit.

Equipment is from the Waterous Company, which is still in business.

https://www.waterousco.com/

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Photo: Grand Trunk Flat Car 60303 Steam Road Roller & Fire Pumper (Undated)

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: Grand Trunk Flat Car 60303 Steam Road Roller & Fire Pumper (Undated)

A photo from the National Archives of Canada:

https://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/CollectionSearch/Pages/record.aspx?app=FonAndCol&IdNumber=3284906

This photo can be enlarged quite a bit.

Equipment is from the Waterous Company, which is still in business.

https://www.waterousco.com/

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Suggestions? - Livestock Cars & Operations Books

Bob Chaparro
 

Suggestions? - Livestock Cars & Operations Books

I'm looking for books on livestock cars and operations. So far, my very short list includes:

  • Live Stock Operations: History, Equipment, Facilities & Modeling by J. Stephen Sandifer
  • Stock Car Cyclopedia Vol. 1 by Robert L. Hundman
  • Stock Cars of the Santa Fe Railway by Frank M Ellington, John Berry & Loren Martens
  • Train Shed Cyclopedia #3 Box, Stock & Refrigerator cars from the 1931 Car Builders' Cyclopedia
  • Train Shed Cyclopedia No. 17: Box, Stock and Flat Cars from the 1943 Car Builders' Cyclopedia

Does anyone have additional suggestions?

Thanks.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: partial view of a HERCULES POWDER tank car

Norm Buckhart
 

On Nov 15, 2020, at 11:28 AM, Tom Madden via groups.io <pullmanboss@...> wrote:

Here's a Hercules acid tank I photographed on the CNJ at Lake Junction, NJ in November 1961. UTLX 14505. Great lettering scheme.

Tom Madden <Tom0912.jpg>


Re: partial view of a HERCULES POWDER tank car

Tom Madden
 

Here's a Hercules acid tank I photographed on the CNJ at Lake Junction, NJ in November 1961. UTLX 14505. Great lettering scheme.

Tom Madden


Decals for scale locations and light weights just need the B&O

Charlie Duckworth
 

I've got all the major roads on the spreadsheet and see that the B&O was missing. If someone can furnish the top 5 or 6 scales for the B&O I’ll add these and start scanning photos for Hubert’s reference.

I know the Mopac’s light weight and month and year were 3 inches tall - were there any exceptions (taller lettering) to this?

Charlie

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Charlie Duckworth
Omaha, Ne.


Re: Ann Arbor Hutchins End (was FW&D 7231 Accurail kitbash)

Eric Hansmann
 

Those are cool looking parts, Rob!

 

 

Eric Hansmann

Murfreesboro, TN

 

 

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert kirkham
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2020 12:27 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Ann Arbor Hutchins End (was FW&D 7231 Accurail kitbash)

 

Hi Craig,

 

Attaching a couple of photos of the first version of the Hutchin ends for the Accurail kitbash.  Here are the issues I see: 

- printed flat, the overall surface is good until one looks at the edges.  They have diagonal striations so would need filling and Archer rivets used to correct the surfaces.

- As you can see, the parts have a flange in back to help locate the sides.  While it fits nicely into the car bottom, up top its a little tight.  So it may be a bit too wide, and so would need to be thinned down by the modeller (or I will edit the drawing once I have it verified.). 

- The gussets at the bottom look to extend downward a little far, so would need to be sanded shorter once installed.  

-  I’m not sure if the ledge for the floor to mount into is the correct depth.  

But, those are all elements I can fix.  So far, pretty pleased with this option.

 

Rob

 

On Nov 14, 2020, at 6:00 PM, Craig Wilson <agecompanyphotog@...> wrote:

 

Looking forward to seeing this one.  Did you get the Shapeways parts for the complete ends yet?  If so, what is your opinion of them?

Craig Wilson


Re: Chicagoland 2019 Minikit

Eric Hansmann
 

Another great looking model, Bob! Nice work.

 

What did you use for the Carmer uncoupling hardware?

 

 

Eric Hansmann

Murfreesboro, TN

 

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bob Chapman
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2020 12:07 PM
To: STMFC E-List <main@Realstmfc.groups.io>
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Chicagoland 2019 Minikit

 

It seemed appropriate to work on Chicagoland’s 2019 Minikit the weekend of this year’s scheduled event. A thanks to George Toman, Lester Breuer, and John Golden, whose earlier posts offered inspiration and useful tips. My effort mostly followed the basic Chicagoland instructions, with a few exceptions.

 

Chicagoland supplied resin diagonal corner braces in two different widths (.040” and .060”) for top and bottom, while prototype photos show a consistent width of about .060”; I substituted .010” x .060” styrene strip for the cast resin braces. Accurail’s outside-brace members are channels vs. the prototype’s Z-members; following George’s lead, I added .010” x .040” styrene strips atop the channels (yes, Accurail’s riveted bottom flanges face the wrong way on the verticals, but a small price for those neat Z-shadows like George’s). Weathering is a combination of washes, powders, and pencils.     

 

Regards,

Bob Chapman

 


Re: Chicagoland 2019 Minikit

Tom Madden
 

Beautiful work, as always, Bob. And the resin castings and decals are available as a mini-kit from Resin Car Works:
http://resincarworks.com/decals_parts.htm

Tom Madden


Re: National Car Company

Walter
 

The 2464 looks like it was taken in Burlington, Iowa. I used a lot of MNX cars for potato loading. 


Re: Chicagoland 2019 Minikit

Paul Doggett
 

Bob 

that’s a great looking car.

Paul Doggett 


Re: Chicagoland 2019 Minikit

Lester Breuer
 

Bob another fine build.  Nice weathering.
Lester Breuer


Re: Chicagoland 2019 Minikit

James Brewer
 

Great looking car Bob!  Love the weathering.

Jim Brewer


Re: Ann Arbor Hutchins End (was FW&D 7231 Accurail kitbash)

Robert kirkham
 

Couple of additional observations: 

- the panel lap joint feels a little heavy and 
- the panel joint needs rivets.  (They were on there, but must have been lost during editing.)  

Rob

On Nov 15, 2020, at 10:27 AM, Robert kirkham <rdkirkham@...> wrote:

Hi Craig,

Attaching a couple of photos of the first version of the Hutchin ends for the Accurail kitbash.  Here are the issues I see: 
- printed flat, the overall surface is good until one looks at the edges.  They have diagonal striations so would need filling and Archer rivets used to correct the surfaces.
- As you can see, the parts have a flange in back to help locate the sides.  While it fits nicely into the car bottom, up top its a little tight.  So it may be a bit too wide, and so would need to be thinned down by the modeller (or I will edit the drawing once I have it verified.). 
- The gussets at the bottom look to extend downward a little far, so would need to be sanded shorter once installed.  
-  I’m not sure if the ledge for the floor to mount into is the correct depth.  
But, those are all elements I can fix.  So far, pretty pleased with this option.

Rob

On Nov 14, 2020, at 6:00 PM, Craig Wilson <agecompanyphotog@...> wrote:

Looking forward to seeing this one.  Did you get the Shapeways parts for the complete ends yet?  If so, what is your opinion of them?
Craig Wilson
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