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BAR/NH Insulated Box Car Resin Kit RESET
Peter Ness
Dear All,
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E&B Valley RR ACF Covered Hopper
StephenK
Many moons ago, early in my kit building days, I attempted one of these kits. The result was not good: The car was not square and had serious gaps in the corners. I ran it for a while (it didn't run too well either...) and finally scrapped it .
Since that time I have built many kits--Branchline, Proto, Intermountain, F&C, Eel River, Tichy, etc. I am confident that my kit-building skills have improved I recently was at a train show and saw a few E&B kits on sale cheap. I picked one up to see what I could do with it. My new attempt is square and gaps are minimal, but the fact of the matter is the car doesn't look as good as the Bowser and Kato shake-the Box kits do. And it takes a lot more work. I haven't tried Intermountain's version, which I am sure is more work (due to more parts, etc.) but I am willing to bet the result is better. In any case, it was an interesting lesson learned. Even if the kits are really cheap, the results are not good enough in today's market. Steve Kay
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Re: [Non-DoD Source] [RealSTMFC] Ralston Steel Car Co. photos
Gatwood, Elden J SAD
Gang;
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Another question: when did the first "slide down flush with deck" vertical staff handbrakes come into use? Thanks! Elden Gatwood
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From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dennis Storzek Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2018 12:21 PM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: [Non-DoD Source] [RealSTMFC] Ralston Steel Car Co. photos A couple weeks ago during a discussion of collapsible hand brakes, Tim O'Connor posted a photo of the end sill of an Idaho Washington & Northern flatcar with a swing down hand brake, and I opined it must be a dedicated logging flat. Today I ran into a photo of the all steel version. Note the hand brake and fold down stakes. This Is from a collection of Ralston Steel Car Co. builders photos available here: Blockedhttp://www.columbusrailroads.com/new/?menu=06Industry&;submenu=10Ralston_Steel_Car_Co Dennis Storzek
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Ralston Steel Car Co. photos
Dennis Storzek
A couple weeks ago during a discussion of collapsible hand brakes, Tim O'Connor posted a photo of the end sill of an Idaho Washington & Northern flatcar with a swing down hand brake, and I opined it must be a dedicated logging flat. Today I ran into a photo of the all steel version. Note the hand brake and fold down stakes.
This Is from a collection of Ralston Steel Car Co. builders photos available here: http://www.columbusrailroads.com/new/?menu=06Industry&submenu=10Ralston_Steel_Car_Co Dennis Storzek
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Re: unbuilt Westerfield HO kits F/S
Jim Thurston
Please send list
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Re: Steam era AAR axle load limits
Nelson, I am a computer scientist, and I KNOW that the table YOU SEE if differently formatted than the table that I SEE. Message FORMATS are under the control of software. Your table is a MESS on my screen. Get it? Let me guess. You are reading your email with Outlook? Tim :-|
Au Contraire! If you were correct, your table would be aligned, which it is most definitely NOT. My table opens the same way every time, regardless of local settings. To prove my point, I pasted the Word table into this email, and you will note that the columns are aligned. --
Tim O'Connor Sterling, Massachusetts
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Re: unbuilt Westerfield HO kits F/S
Steve SANDIFER
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Re: BAR/NH Insulated Box Car Resin Kit
John Hagen <sprinthag@...>
Dennis. Yes I am probably going waaayyyy overboard on this. But I feel a need to be very accurate on describing decal problems because some are caused by the printing machine, some, generally more, by poor artwork and some by not understanding the strengths and weaknesses of different printers. Anyone who takes the time to draw accurate vector format graphics for artwork is got a good start on producing a good decal. Then it becomes a matter of what printer you have available and/or what you can AFFORD to have available. In the case of Alps printers, someone who know exactly what they can and cannot do with one can produce some very well done decals. Vector graphics eliminates “pixelation” and spot printing when u sing an Alps will eliminate the “spot matrix” effect. This is not easy to do at times and impossible at other times. But I have printed decals that are mostly spot color with certain areas that most be printed using the printers color matching function that are very nicely done. For the general railroad freights car colors of white or black, there is no problem using spot colors. A rather common green and red can easily be done using layered spot colors. Only a very bright, pure yellow and be printed using spot colors. If you can find tinting cartridges such as Spot Red, Green and Blue many other hues can be spot printed. There was a process orange that is now all but impossible to find. For any other yellow, including the common “safety” yellow used by railroads. All but a very rather reddish orange and any grays, you will need the matrix colors. Sorry about my “rants” but so much is not understood very well. John Hagen
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dennis Storzek
On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 02:36 PM, John Hagen wrote:
John,
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Re: BAR/NH Insulated Box Car Resin Kit
John Hagen <sprinthag@...>
Sorry. Nothing here indicates any pixelation. Really this is getting a tad silly. Some here are calling fine lines, spot matrix in colors and what not as pixelation. Pixelation in printing means the item being printed is a photo format such as tiff, jpeg or something similar. That means that under magnification, sometimes strong or sometimes hardly any, the edges of any one color is shown as tiny squares. The size of the squares is dependent on the dpi, which could be more accurately be called squares per inch. These “dots” (for easy typing) inside the particular colors border are fully colored, solid red in a red area, solid blue in a blue area, etc. But along the borders the dots fade from their basic color. And the more of the dots that is outside the border the less of the color is in the dots. Instead the dots are a combination of the of the color and that of its neighbor color. Now, depending on the dpi, these dots may be small enough that our eye sees them as a fine segue from one color to another. But examine it close up and the pixels show up. That is pixelation. All rasterized formats have it. All vector formats do not. Provided a decal is printed by any sort of modern printer with at least 600 dpi. Vector graphic will not display pixelation. Laser, inkjet, Alps, none of them. Print a rasterized (photo format) design and the pixelation will show if looked at close enough. Not so much in actual photos where there multiple colors that all fade into one another but a photo of a box car and its lettering most certainly show pixelation. Take any photo you have handy stored on your hard drive or one off the web and enlarge it. It will at some point start showing pixelation. And then you copy it and go to print it again and the pixelation will get worse unless you do certain things to prevent it, and then it may still get worse. But this is Definity different from the spot matrix shown in colors that are obtained by adding dots (yes real dots here)of CYMK (four color printer) or other ink colors in six or more color printers. No matter how many ink colors the printer can use, all the colors in the rainbow require a matrix of the available colors to make them. The smaller the dots the less noticeable the matrix is but it is there unless the image is printed in spot colors. Which is another whole story I will not go into here. Also, every printer has a certain number of lpi (Lines Per Inch) that will affect as in “This printer is 1200 DPI so the line spacing is very tight but you will see lines in certain colors.” Actually he is slightly incorrect as there is a difference between dpi and lpi although on today’s high resolution printers it become hard to tell the difference. But that is another issue I will not go into at this time. I purchased my first Alps in 1999 or 2000 for printing decals. That began a very long learning process that is still going on today. But all this talk about pixels, dpi, lpi, vector, rasterize, etc. has vexed me since my first decals did not print out as good as thought they would. That’s 18 0r 19 years of searching the answers. John Hagen
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dave Parker via Groups.Io
John Hagen asked: Why would colors be pixelated?
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Re: Steam era AAR axle load limits
Nelson Moyer
Au Contraire! If you were correct, your table would be aligned, which it is most definitely NOT. My table opens the same way every time, regardless of local settings. To prove my point, I pasted the Word table into this email, and you will note that the columns are aligned.
Journal Size (in.) Pre-1962 1962+ 3 ¾ x 7 40 66 ( OBSOLETE )
Nelson Moyer
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io]
On Behalf Of Tim O'Connor
Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2018 9:33 PM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Steam era AAR axle load limits
Nelson
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Re: Steam era AAR axle load limits
Nelson
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LOL! WHY would you want tabs? The formatting with tabs is completely dependent on the settings for each individual's software. Using ASCII space characters is not open to interpretation. And then converting it to Word format? How is that an improvement? To each his/her own. YMMV. :-D
Tim, you really need to learn how to construct a table using tabs. I reformatted your table, and removing all those single spaces was a PITA. The revised table is attached. --
Tim O'Connor Sterling, Massachusetts
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Re: Steam era AAR axle load limits
Nelson Moyer
Tim, you really need to learn how to construct a table using tabs. I reformatted your table, and removing all those single spaces was a PITA. The revised table is attached.
Nelson Moyer
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io]
On Behalf Of Tim O'Connor
Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2018 6:59 PM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Steam era AAR axle load limits
Ahem.
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Resin Car Works X Car
dale florence <dwwesley@...>
Does any one like to get rid of a Resin Car Works X tank care? I will purchase for $100.00 Dale Florence ._,_._,_
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Re: Steam era AAR axle load limits
Ahem.
Tony since you mention 1967 in your table, it's only fair to mention that ALL of the GRL's were changed ~ 1962 (copied from Tim Gilbert) Journal pre-1962 1962+ Size Nominal Nominal Capy GRL Capy GRL 3 3/4" x 7" 40 66 ( OBSOLETE ) 4 1/4" x 8" 60 103 60 103 5" x 9" 80 136 88 142 5 1/2" x 10" 100 169 110 177 6" x 11" 140 210 154 220 6 1/2" x 12" 200 251 200 263 7" x 12" - - 250 315 Tim O' Dennis Storzek wrote: I'm away from work and all my reference materials. Does anyone have a link to a table of the AAR max weight on rail figures used to calculate car load limits? Thanks. Attached. Tony Thompson table.pdf: https://RealSTMFC.groups.io/g/main/attachment/159064/0 -- Tim O'Connor Sterling, Massachusetts
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Re: decals (was BAR/NH Insulated Box Car Resin Kit)
Dennis understands. :-) Yes, whatever the term - edges are a little jagged and looking closely the decal had little "dots" of pigment... Unfortunately I can't find the offending decal now or I would scan it to show you. I might have thrown it out. I looked at some other "printed" decals (as opposed to silk screen) and some diagonal edges (not vertical or horizontal) do show "stair step" dots (I looked at some Highball and some PenBay sets) but they're not noticeable with normal (20/20 corrected) vision, so I have no issues with using them. Tim O'
John,Does it occur to you that the previous poster was using the wrong term? Whether one calls it pixelation or a spot matrix, the end result is pokadots in your graphics, which is a complaint I've heard since the ALPS was first introduced. We have an ALPS, which I don't design for, but I'm under the impression we could get black, white, red, green, blue, and some metallics in addition to CMY, which we don't even stock. I know Eric occasionally runs two layers of different spot color to get what he needs.Dennis Storzek --
Tim O'Connor Sterling, Massachusetts
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Re: Steam era AAR axle load limits
Dennis Storzek
Thanx Tony.
Dennis Storzek
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New decal set - NP 1947/1949 steel reefers
Ted Culotta
I have a new HO scale decal set that letters one each of the Northern Pacific’s 1947 (R-40-23 clone) and 1949 (R-40-25 clone) steel reefers built by Pacific Car & Foundry. The set, D198, letters two cars. The artwork features completely revised characters and numbers. Details may be found at the Speedwitch site (link below) under the Decals section of the site. Ted Culotta Speedwitch Media
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Re: Steam era AAR axle load limits
Tony Thompson
Dennis Storzek wrote:
I'm away from work and all my reference materials. Does anyone have a link to a table of the AAR max weight on rail figures used to calculate car load limits? Thanks.Attached. Tony Thompson
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Steam era AAR axle load limits
Dennis Storzek
Hi,
I'm away from work and all my reference materials. Does anyone have a link to a table of the AAR max weight on rail figures used to calculate car load limits? Thanks. Dennis Storzek
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Re: BAR/NH Insulated Box Car Resin Kit
Dennis Storzek
On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 02:36 PM, John Hagen wrote:
John, Does it occur to you that the previous poster was using the wrong term? Whether one calls it pixelation or a spot matrix, the end result is pokadots in your graphics, which is a complaint I've heard since the ALPS was first introduced. We have an ALPS, which I don't design for, but I'm under the impression we could get black, white, red, green, blue, and some metallics in addition to CMY, which we don't even stock. I know Eric occasionally runs two layers of different spot color to get what he needs. Dennis Storzek
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