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Re: BAR/NH Insulated Box Car Resin Kit

Dave Parker
 

John Hagen asked:  Why would colors be pixelated?

Since we are talking about Highball Graphics and their new OKI laser printer, this (straight from their website) would seem to answer that question:

With the new OKI C942 we are no longer able to print in multi layer spot colors. It uses Toner on separate drums to print in CMYKW. Print layout now is very simple. You will just need 1 layer for your artwork. first change your background color to a color of your choice (except white). I normally use a light blue. Also make sure the "print background color" option is toggled off.  Create your artwork in the exact colors you want to be printed. This printer matches Pantone colors very well. Like all CMYK printers there are certain colors that do not print so well like light blue's & light gray's. This printer is 1200 DPI so the line spacing is very tight but you will see lines in certain colors. Short of screen printing there is no way around this. Pure white artwork (C=0, M=0, Y=0, K=0) will print white on this machine. All colors except black will have a white underlay automatically.

Dave Parker
Riverside, CA


Re: BAR/NH Insulated Box Car Resin Kit

Dennis Storzek
 

John,

Everything you said is true, provided you can set the printer to use "spot color", which is a printer's term for using a solid print of one color ink. If however, you just compose the colered art on the computer screen and allow the computer to try to match the colors, it is going to try to do so with the CMYK processcolors, and on older low resolution printers, the results are less than stellar. One of the advantages of the old ALPS printers is they had a good selection of ribbon colors to choose from.

I have no experiance with the new OKI laser printers, so can't comment.

Dennis Storzek


Re: BAR/NH Insulated Box Car Resin Kit

John Hagen <sprinthag@...>
 

Why would colors be pixelated? That is controlled by the artwork. As long as the artwork is a vector format, there should be no pixelation.
Pixelation occurs when when vector artwork is rasterized, or if the artwork is done using a photo program. All photo formats are pixelated (rasterized) and are a poor choice for decal artwork.
Yes, if at a high enough resolution and the file has not been changed or re-scaled, a decent print can be made. But using a SVG (Scalable Vector Graphic) is way better and easier.
Having had decals printed using Oki laser proof printers, I have not found any pixelation. What I do find is problems with the thickness of the printing causing problems with getting the decal to conform to the surface it is applied to and even problems with getting them to adhere to the model.
If they can get around those problems, the Oki printed decals will be a real boon due to their range of colors and high resolutions,
John Hagen


Re: BAR/NH Insulated Box Car Resin Kit

Dave Parker
 

Scott:

I think opinions on this will vary.  Colors other than black and white will be pixelated, albeit at 1200 dpi. In general, laser printers do not produce decals that are as opaque as those printed by more traditional means.  But, I think resolution will generally be better.  For me, that's a good trade-off, but folks wanting very bright and bold lettering may not be as satisfied.

The other advantage with Highball's OHKI printer is that you have much more control over color, as it can be programmed to produce just about any Pantone color out there. 

Dave Parker
Riverside, CA


Re: BAR/NH Insulated Box Car Resin Kit

Scott
 

Dave, is that a good thing or bad thing?

Scott McDonald


Re: unbuilt Westerfield HO kits F/S

 

I have no stock car kits.  HTG


Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Stupid hand brake question

Gatwood, Elden J SAD
 

Gang;

A further point is that this arrangement of cars without their own individually operable brake, was obviously not ideal. PRR for one, had flats and gons which had: a) removable brake staffs, b) rotatable (and still operable) brake staffs in the USRA-design G25, and didn't much like either. This led to a long discussion of what might be better, and resulted in the adoption of pump brakes, and sideways-mounted vertical wheel handbrakes, mounted on the left yoke, an elegant solution for the gons. Many of the later flat cars had two sets of brake gear and hand brakes on either end, also a deal allowing at least one set operable when needing to knock one down onto the deck. See classes G26, G27, G28, G30, G31, F25, F28, F29, etc., if you are interested in the progression.

Elden Gatwood

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Dennis wrote:

“Point remains, however, either requirement unifies the load and idler(s) into a single unit, which does have an operable hand brake.”

We are in full agreement!

Guy Wilber
Colfax, California


Wanted two kits

Chuck Cover
 

Group,

I am looking for two kits:
Westerfield #3652 ATSF BX6
Sunshine #67.5  C&O 44000-44999 gondola

Please contact off list.  Thanks

Chuck Cover
Santa Fe, NM


Re: Ulrich GN GS Gondola

rwitt_2000
 

Garth,

Thanks for the reference to the photo of the GN GS with heap shields. - Bob Witt


Re: Ulrich GN GS Gondola

Garth Groff <sarahsan@...>
 

Good Friends,

As I contemplated how to add the piping and brake levers (AB brakes, as upgraded) to my small collection of Ulrich GS gondolas, I thought to look in my collection of Gregg Train Shed Cyclopedias. I didn't find any help with the piping and rod arrangement (poop!), but to my surprise found a builder's photo of the GN car with the heap shield ends. It is on page 239 of the 1940 Car Builders' Cyclopedia, or Gregg reprint No. 5 with the same pagination.

The GN car is numbered 75899, from series 75500-75999 (Pressed Steel Car Co., 7-37). It is similar to the Ulrich cars, with two major differences. The Ulrich models depict (somewhat crudely, but consider the model's age) the proprietary Enterprise link arrangement. This tends to hide the sloped part of the lower car body. The GN car appears to have simple chains winding around a rod, making the visible part of the winding mechanism appear more delicate and opening up the sloped area to view. The second difference is that the GN prototype has a brake gear box and its brake platform is mounted below the lower of the two horizontal stiffening ribs on the end. The Ulrich model has the brake platform mounted above that rib, and it has an upright rod and wheel. The Ulrich GN model thus doesn't look much like its supposed prototype (barring a lot of work with a Dremel). The Ulrich cars with flat ends and the staff brake are much closer to SP G-50-9 through G-50-12 from the 1920s, which is really what I want. The GN car can stay in the hobby store display case.

That still doesn't solve how the brake rods and piping ran. I wonder if there is a wreck photo of one of these cars tipped over. Any ideas?

Yours Aye,


Garth Groff


Re: BREX 76252 upgrade

Peter Ness
 

Very nice upgrade, Lester and good blog as well. I think you are taking the better approach to do the upgrades before operating on the layout.  I have placed far too many cars in service that I intend to upgrade when I get a round “tuit”.

 

Peter Ness

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lester Breuer
Sent: Monday, October 8, 2018 12:30 PM
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Subject: [RealSTMFC] BREX 76252 upgrade

 

I keep building  to reduce the inventory so another blog post.   I chose BREX  76252 steel refrigerator, a 5th Avenue Car Shops/Accurail kit to assemble and upgrade.  Upgrade includes Kadee running board, installing wire grabs and ladder rungs and other details on sides.  Adding and improving  “B” end details and underbody.   The photos and writeup are on my blog I started to share photos and writeup of modeling projects on my Minneapolis & Northland Railroad Company.   If you would like to take a look please do at the following:

 

http://mnrailroadcab100.blogspot.com/

Lester Breuer


Re: unbuilt Westerfield HO kits F/S

Gary McMills
 

Hi Hugh,

I would be interested in Santa Fe stock cars.

thanks,

Gary McMills


 

On 2018-10-08 22:51, Hugh Guillaume via Groups.Io wrote:

I have fifty-nine unbuilt Westerfield HO kits for sale.  $25 each plus actual postage to US address.  I will send a list via e-mail: mguill1224@...   Hugh T Guillaume


Re: Georgia USRA Steel Rebuild w/Aluminum paint

Ken Roth
 

Scalecoat silver with a bit of gray or white works well for me.  OR, if you still have any, the very best is Floquil Platinum Mist.  No grain problem with these.  Ken Roth


Re: Old Ulrich / Walthers GS Gondola

Staffan Ehnbom
 

Brian,
Of the three GN schemes on the Trainworx site only the one with the small sans serif lettering road name is correct for 1953. Should probably have a black background to the goat in the herald, car color mineral red. The slant serif road name wasn't introduced until 1956.

Staffan Ehnbom


On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 6:16 AM Brian Termunde via Groups.Io <GCRDS=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
Tony,
No argument from me, and while I would be happy to have the correct models, considering the only 40 - 46 foot gons we N Scalers had were those ancient Atlas and Botchedmann gons, I have few complaints. Again, while I would prefer to have accurate models, these are better then none at all.

But I do have a question about the the GN gons, while even if not correct for that particular body, which, if any of those paint schemes would be appropriate for my 1953 era railroad.

TIA!

Brian Termunde
Midvale, UT


Re: Old Ulrich / Walthers GS Gondola

Brian Termunde
 

Tony,
No argument from me, and while I would be happy to have the correct models, considering the only 40 - 46 foot gons we N Scalers had were those ancient Atlas and Botchedmann gons, I have few complaints. Again, while I would prefer to have accurate models, these are better then none at all.

But I do have a question about the the GN gons, while even if not correct for that particular body, which, if any of those paint schemes would be appropriate for my 1953 era railroad.

TIA!

Brian Termunde
Midvale, UT


unbuilt Westerfield HO kits F/S

 

I have fifty-nine unbuilt Westerfield HO kits for sale.  $25 each plus actual postage to US address.  I will send a list via e-mail: mguill1224@...   Hugh T Guillaume


Morrell Reefer Series Number Question

Nelson Moyer
 

I put this question out on the bullshippers group, but nobody responded, so I’m trying it with a larger audience.

 

I’m ready to decal Sunshine 15.1, Mather 42 ft. reefer lettered for Morrell. The information in the instructions is confusing at best as it states that the series represented by the kit was built starting in 1947 and continuing to 1955. The decal sheet supports road numbers 9054, 9508, and 9612, and the built dates supported are 1-48 and 1- 43 !? The Sunshine instructions state that the series started with 9200, but they provide a decal for road number 9054!?

 

I have photos of 9515, 9525, and 9562 in the original paint scheme, plus several other road numbers in the new paint scheme. Early cars in this series got the Equipco hand brakes with the horizontal brake wheel, while the rest got hand brakes with vertical brake wheels. The kit supports the latter, since that particular Equipco hand brake isn’t available. After building this kit, I understand why it was discontinued in 1992.

 

My question is, what are the build dates for the three road numbers supported by the decals? Hopefully, somebody has a record of the series numbers and build dates. If I can finish this car, I plan to take it to the Chicagoland RPM for the 25th anniversary exhibit. I’m pretty sure it is one of the earliest Sunshine kits likely to be displayed.

 

Nelson Moyer

 


Re: BAR/NH Insulated Box Car Resin Kit

Dave Parker
 

Based on recent experience, and current info on the webpage, I don't think that is an accurate description of how Highball now prints custom decals.  I believe that all "everyday" printing is now done with an OHKI CMYKW laser printer (1200 dpi).

Dave Parker
Riverside, CA


Re: Old Ulrich / Walthers GS Gondola

Tony Thompson
 

Brian Termunde wrote:

No, the Trainworx Gon is certainly longer than either MT's or Atlas's 42' gon's. I won't guarantee that's 46', but definitely not 40' - 42'

      In that case, the model is wrongly painted for most of the roads they show on their website, all of which had nominally 40-foot 7-post GS gondolas.

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New eBay listings

Clark Propst
 

I've listed two F&C assembled freight cars on eBay. A MP panel side gon and a CV auto box.  If interested here are the links.

 

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