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Re: Ann Arbor Boxcar

Bill Welch
 

USRA 40-ton DS rebuild with steel

Bill Welch


Re: CGW Chicagoland RPM Mini-Kit Clinic Link by George Toman

skibbs4
 

You could try the link at RPMconference.com as well.  We've posted a digital copy of the Attendee Program, and some additional handouts/presentations - George's and Chris Vanko's included- for which we have permission to share.  


Hope that helps,
Mike Skibbe


On Thu, Oct 25, 2018 at 2:15 PM Douglas Harding <doug.harding@...> wrote:
I opened it without problems on my computer. Great information. Saw Ken's post from his phone, so tried with my phone, an Android. I can't open, says pdf file is of invalid format.

Doug Harding
Sent from my phone
On Oct 25, 2018 12:24 PM, "gtws00 via Groups.Io" <gtws00=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Ken,
The file is a standard pdf. I can email it to you. You can contact me at gtws00 at yahoo dot com
George


Ann Arbor Boxcar

Bob Chaparro
 

Ann Arbor Boxcar

An oldie caught in 2017:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/148747074@N04/23669978468/in/pool-1121705@N21/

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: CGW Chicagoland RPM Mini-Kit Clinic Link by George Toman

Douglas Harding
 

I opened it without problems on my computer. Great information. Saw Ken's post from his phone, so tried with my phone, an Android. I can't open, says pdf file is of invalid format.

Doug Harding
Sent from my phone

On Oct 25, 2018 12:24 PM, "gtws00 via Groups.Io" <gtws00@...> wrote:
Ken,
The file is a standard pdf. I can email it to you. You can contact me at gtws00 at yahoo dot com
George


Re: AAR Loading Rule for Flatcars info

Eric Hansmann
 

Railway Prototype Cyclopedia Volume 20 featured 80-some pages of diagrams and photos for flat car loading practices.

 

The Master Car Builders’ Association formulated rules for open loads in 1908 and diagrams have been periodically published in ORER volumes. Many of these diagrams did not change much over the years. Some additional diagrams have been added as new types of loads are introduced, such as TOFC loads.

 

Train Shed Cyclopedia No. 36, published by Newton K. Gregg, contains 17 pages of loading diagrams from the 1919 Car Builders’ Dictionary. Many of these are the same as what is featured in RPCyc 20.

 

IIRC, the NMRA reprinted a mid-1940s AAR book on open load practices, too. Many of those diagrams were the same as those in the 1919 CBD.

 

YMMV.

 

 

Eric Hansmann

Murfreesboro, TN

 

 


From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Fran Giacoma
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2018 1:33 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] AAR Loading Rule for Flatcars info

 

Farming and road construction equipment are a necessity in the area I model on my HO layout depicting the B&O Shenandoah SD set in late September 1956. I have numerous industries that have sidetracks that can accept flatcars for unloading the equipment such as farm vehicles, graders, bulldozers, etc. 

Besides Ebay, online book sellers, and various railroadiana shows, any other places I should be looking for the AAR Loading Rules for Flatcars appropriate to my era?

 

Thanks.

 

Fran Giacoma


AAR Loading Rule for Flatcars info

Fran Giacoma
 

Farming and road construction equipment are a necessity in the area I model on my HO layout depicting the B&O Shenandoah SD set in late September 1956. I have numerous industries that have sidetracks that can accept flatcars for unloading the equipment such as farm vehicles, graders, bulldozers, etc. 

Besides Ebay, online book sellers, and various railroadiana shows, any other places I should be looking for the AAR Loading Rules for Flatcars appropriate to my era?

 

Thanks.

 

Fran Giacoma


Re: CGW Chicagoland RPM Mini-Kit Clinic Link by George Toman

gtws00
 

Thanks for all the kind comments. I had a great time at the RPM and preparing this clinic as well as meeting many new friends.  I hesitated publishing this CGW Clinic but as Kristin mentioned, it is hard to get to all of them. I myself did not get to all I wanted to as I was part of 2 clinics, my CGW and helped  Dick Harley with the Soldering for Electronics Clinic. It is a great experience  in both giving and viewing. As my clinic was built around a talk track, if you have any questions please feel free to ask.
George Toman


Re: In defense of the blue box

G.J. Irwin
 

The STMFC and the RPMs show that we can aspire to great modeling without feeling superior about it.  (And boy, would I need a lot of aspiration to get anywhere near what RPMs display.)

As much as I enjoyed shaking the box, both with my dad when I was much younger and with my children before they "aged out" (for now?), I also enjoy seeing what is possible.  One of the happiest moments of my life was taking my late dad to an RPM-like display in Central New Jersey (Somerset, I think, or thereabouts) and watching him marvel at what was there AND having explained to him what the modelers did, with not a hint of pretense.   Kudos to all of you who make that happen everywhere-- I'm sure my dad's experience was not an isolated occurrence.

Cheers,
George Irwin
"I can spell RPM, at least"


Re: CGW Chicagoland RPM Mini-Kit Clinic Link by George Toman

gtws00
 

Ken,
The file is a standard pdf. I can email it to you. You can contact me at gtws00 at yahoo dot com
George 


Re: Rapido NP boxcar, K brake question

brianleppert@att.net
 

On my model the connecting rod is between the center sills (underframe channels).

Brian Leppert
Carson City, NV


Re: CGW Chicagoland RPM Mini-Kit Clinic Link by George Toman

ken chapin
 

Can not open this file
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Sent from my Android phone with GMX Mail. Please excuse my brevity.

On 10/25/18, 12:44 PM Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:

Outstanding and instructional for any number of box car projects! Thank you!

Tim O'Connor


I gave a presentation at the Chicagoland RPM on my building of the 2017 CGW Minit-Kit. This was a plastic kit plus resin parts that was a gift for attendees. Here is a link to the presentation, Please use for personal use only
https://www.dropbox.com/s/twdrkhdiqu4pwww/CGW%202017%20Chicagoland%20RPM%20Final%20Sept%202018.pdf?dl=0

George Toman

--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: Rapido NP boxcar, K brake question

Dennis Storzek
 

Alex,

I haven't gotten the chance to see the new Rapido car, but the foundation brake rigging diagram you directed us to is for passenger cars. Few freightcars used brake cylinders with an attachment point for the brake lever on the cylinder head; this attachment was normally to the frame towards the A end of the car. Does this help?

Dennis Storzek


Re: CGW Chicagoland RPM Mini-Kit Clinic Link by George Toman

Tim O'Connor
 


Outstanding and instructional for any number of box car projects! Thank you!

Tim O'Connor


I gave a presentation at the Chicagoland RPM on my building of the 2017 CGW Minit-Kit. This was a plastic kit plus resin parts that was a gift for attendees. Here is a link to the presentation, Please use for personal use only
https://www.dropbox.com/s/twdrkhdiqu4pwww/CGW%202017%20Chicagoland%20RPM%20Final%20Sept%202018.pdf?dl=0

George Toman

--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: Rapido NP boxcar, K brake question

Alexander Schneider Jr
 

I received mine, and I have a question about the K brake system. I don’t see any connection between the lever on the “A” end and the rest of the system. My 1928 Car Builders Cyclopedia shows a connecting rod between the two levers. I can’t imagine it would be between the underframe channels. Any ideas?

 

Alex Schneider

 

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Re: CGW Chicagoland RPM Mini-Kit Clinic Link by George Toman

Kristin Dummler
 

George,

Thank you for sharing this. Really well done. I had hoped to sit in on the clinic in Chicagoland, but unfortunately missed it due to scheduling.

Kristin Dummler


On 10/25/2018 8:16 AM, gtws00 via Groups.Io wrote:
I gave a presentation at the Chicagoland RPM on my building of the 2017 CGW Minit-Kit. This was a plastic kit plus resin parts that was a gift for attendees. Here is a link to the presentation, Please use for personal use only
https://www.dropbox.com/s/twdrkhdiqu4pwww/CGW%202017%20Chicagoland%20RPM%20Final%20Sept%202018.pdf?dl=0

George Toman


Re: CGW Chicagoland RPM Mini-Kit Clinic Link by George Toman

O Fenton Wells
 

Great presentation George, thanks for sharing.
Fenton

On Thu, Oct 25, 2018 at 9:16 AM gtws00 via Groups.Io <gtws00=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
I gave a presentation at the Chicagoland RPM on my building of the 2017 CGW Minit-Kit. This was a plastic kit plus resin parts that was a gift for attendees. Here is a link to the presentation, Please use for personal use only
https://www.dropbox.com/s/twdrkhdiqu4pwww/CGW%202017%20Chicagoland%20RPM%20Final%20Sept%202018.pdf?dl=0

George Toman



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Fenton Wells
250 Frye Rd
Pinehurst NC 28374
910-420-8106
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Re: CGW Chicagoland RPM Mini-Kit Clinic Link by George Toman

Scott
 

Incredible building!  Thank you for sharing for those who couldnt make it.

Scott McDonald


Re: Early RPM Efforts

Schleigh Mike
 

A note to Al--Shared with the Group----

Your early and continuing work, really, contributions, in the hobby have been huge.  Even those early kits, fragile as they might be, were wonderful and brought advances in modeling that showed us the way to do great modeling and to expect better in ourselves and those that supply our purchases.  Tom Madden gave us a very nice run-down of where much of this had come from but your efforts brought something of a quantum leap that showed everyone that much more could be done to bring better realism to our railroad cars.  Future advances will come but what you and Patricia did for the hobby will stand as a large milestone in the modeling quality we can expect in our hobby.  Thank you, Al, for all you gave us and the hobby!

Enjoy your time in Arizona.  Enjoy the hobby.  And please stay in touch offering comments as you see opportunity.

Good wishes from Grove City in western Penna.    Mike Schleigh

 

On Wednesday, October 24, 2018, 11:13:02 AM EDT, al_westerfield <westerfieldalfred@...> wrote:


Mark – For about 15 years we willing replaced those castings  for urethane at no charge for anyone who requested it.  To get the old kits off hobby shop shelves, we notified every shop on out lists that we would replace entire kits if they returned the originals.  Surprisingly, few did.

 

But I received my greatest compliment over that kit.  One modeler complained to another that my ad should have showed the model, not the prototype.  It was the model.

 

  • Al Westerfield

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Rossiter, Mark W
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 3:00 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Early RPM Efforts

 

Dan and friends, yes the NEB&W was a fictitious railroad, but in addition to the modeled prototype scenes you mentioned, the motive power and rolling stock was based on Rutland and D&H prototypes.  It was largely the John Nehrich, Jeff English, Todd Sullivan and Andy Claremont articles in MR and RMC in the early 1980’s on how to turn the available kits of the day into more correct models of actual prototypes that opened my eyes to a whole new world of modeling.  Once the Storzek Rutland and NYC box car kits hit the market, followed by the NEB&W ‘green dot’ kits, I was hooked on resin kits.  The first Westerfield kit I bought was a NYC hopper made of the dark gray casting material.  Assembling that kit was like trying to glue potato chips together.  Every time I touched it something else broke.  It is still partially finished in a box somewhere in my basement.  It was my first experience with scale thickness walls on a freight car kit.

 

Mark Rossiter        

 

 


Re: In defense of the blue box

Paul R Greenwald
 

Al -

Well said

Paul Greenwald 

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Paul R Greenwald 
PRRT&HS #1802
NMRA #129229


CGW Chicagoland RPM Mini-Kit Clinic Link by George Toman

gtws00
 

I gave a presentation at the Chicagoland RPM on my building of the 2017 CGW Minit-Kit. This was a plastic kit plus resin parts that was a gift for attendees. Here is a link to the presentation, Please use for personal use only
https://www.dropbox.com/s/twdrkhdiqu4pwww/CGW%202017%20Chicagoland%20RPM%20Final%20Sept%202018.pdf?dl=0

George Toman

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