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Re: The Twelfth St. Louis Railroad Prototype Modeler's Meet

Richard Townsend
 

That's been the conventional wisdom for the last 40 or 50 years. Not dead yet!

Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, OR


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From: Bill Welch <fgexbill@...>
To: main <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Sent: Mon, Jul 23, 2018 6:53 am
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] The Twelfth St. Louis Railroad Prototype Modeler's Meet

My topic was one that has a fairly narrow appeal—maybe i am wrong—and what impressed me is how many faces I did not recognize listening. The conventional thinking is that our hobby is aging and therefore doomed. I don't see it based on the number of newcomers I see on a regular basis. I do wish I had included information for people about this list, and the Styrene and Resin lists.

My only complaint is that the Canteen closed too early. I heard interest in having more clinics and repeating clinics. The facility is really great I think and the CREW was on top of everything.

Bill Welch


Re: RC 1937 AAR box car undec kits special run

 

Andy, just catching up on messages, and I too, could be interested in 10 or so of these kits? Any idea of a time frame. I couldn't get your email address from the original message, but mine is das1054ATgmail.com.

Any idea of a time frame delivery on these?

Dave Strahlendorf


Re: The Twelfth St. Louis Railroad Prototype Modeler's Meet

Nelson Moyer
 

I saw a lot of younger people and many young people roaming the aisles (I’m 75). From the increasing number of models from periods later than the steam and transition eras, one may extrapolate that the hobby is attracting new blood from the 60s through the 90s. The weathering stations are catering to those who favor rust buckets with graffiti, so the 70s and 80s are getting lots of attention, not only from the manufacturers represented, but the modelers as well. I even saw a guy with a PC shirt who must be a masochist. The number of freight cars from before 1950 was down, which may bode ill for those of us who like single sheathed boxcars from fallen flags. There were very few cars from the teens and twenties, more for the 30s-40s, but still down from previous years. The hobby is definitely evolving with respect to eras of interest, and that may bode ill for those of us who scratchbuild, build resin, and kitbash plastic as material sources become scarce, and RTR takes over the hobby as my generation passes on.

 

Nelson Moyer

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tim O'Connor
Sent: Monday, July 23, 2018 10:59 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Cc: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] The Twelfth St. Louis Railroad Prototype Modeler's Meet

 


With such a large crowd (662) it would be statistically meaningful to ask every
attendee to give their current age and then compile an (anonymous) age graph of the
distribution of ages. If done every year we could get a much better idea of the
ages of RPM modelers, at least. It's been known for a long time that many people
don't enter the hobby seriously until their 30s or 40s - once they start to "settle
down". Even in the 1960's I think the "average" age compiled by Model Railroader was
in the early to mid 40's.

Tim O'Connor





My topic was one that has a fairly narrow appeal­maybe i am wrong­and what impressed me is how many faces I did not recognize listening. The conventional thinking is that our hobby is aging and therefore doomed. I don't see it based on the number of newcomers I see on a regular basis. I do wish I had included information for people about this list, and the Styrene and Resin lists.

My only complaint is that the Canteen closed too early. I heard interest in having more clinics and repeating clinics. The facility is really great I think and the CREW was on top of everything.

Bill Welch


Re: The Twelfth St. Louis Railroad Prototype Modeler's Meet

ford.donald77 <ford.donald77@...>
 

This was my 4th Collinsville Meet best yet great clinics, outstanding models, the vendors must have been good my pocket book is a lot lighter, my jaw is worn out, great time.
Thanks to all that put this together
Con Ford 
Cameron MO


Re: The Twelfth St. Louis Railroad Prototype Modeler's Meet

Tim O'Connor
 


With such a large crowd (662) it would be statistically meaningful to ask every
attendee to give their current age and then compile an (anonymous) age graph of the
distribution of ages. If done every year we could get a much better idea of the
ages of RPM modelers, at least. It's been known for a long time that many people
don't enter the hobby seriously until their 30s or 40s - once they start to "settle
down". Even in the 1960's I think the "average" age compiled by Model Railroader was
in the early to mid 40's.

Tim O'Connor




My topic was one that has a fairly narrow appeal­maybe i am wrong­and what impressed me is how many faces I did not recognize listening. The conventional thinking is that our hobby is aging and therefore doomed. I don't see it based on the number of newcomers I see on a regular basis. I do wish I had included information for people about this list, and the Styrene and Resin lists.

My only complaint is that the Canteen closed too early. I heard interest in having more clinics and repeating clinics. The facility is really great I think and the CREW was on top of everything.

Bill Welch


Re: The Twelfth St. Louis Railroad Prototype Modeler's Meet

Eric Lombard
 

 Good morning everyone 
 I am one of those new faces. In fact, this was my first RPM.  I came down on the train from Chicago and stayed with my sister in O’Fallon. I was very impressed with the Collinsville was a wonderful experience to see in person what modelers achieve in the present day. I enjoyed talking with vendors and meeting a couple of people I’ve corresponded with for several years but had never met in person. If I have a suggestion, it would be to somehow post alphabetized a list of attendees and where they are from. I would’ve liked to meet more people but I didn’t know how to find them not knowing what they look like!  Thanks again for all the hard work put into bringing the RPM about. 

Eric Lombard
Homewood, IL
Headinding for the afternoon train home

On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 8:54 AM Bill Welch <fgexbill@...> wrote:
My topic was one that has a fairly narrow appeal—maybe i am wrong—and what impressed me is how many faces I did not recognize listening. The conventional thinking is that our hobby is aging and therefore doomed. I don't see it based on the number of newcomers I see on a regular basis. I do wish I had included information for people about this list, and the Styrene and Resin lists.

My only complaint is that the Canteen closed too early. I heard interest in having more clinics and repeating clinics. The facility is really great I think and the CREW was on top of everything.

Bill Welch


Re: Masking over Archer rivets

Craig Zeni
 

On Jul 23, 2018, at 1:56 AM, main@RealSTMFC.groups.io wrote:

4d. Re: Masking over Archer rivets
From: Tim O'Connor <@timboconnor>
Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2018 18:36:05 EDT

I have not heard of using wet white paper, but I do have a roll of very weak
adhesive paper from 3M - essentially a roll of Post-It note paper. I use it when
the surface is not too irregular (i.e. a flat surface).

Has anyone tried brushing Microscale liquid decal film over Archer rivets? I
wonder if it would help hold them in place securely while painting.
Using Tamiya's masking tape I have masked over Archers but I airbrushed glosscoat over them first. I also applied the Archers over a painted surface, not directly to unpainted plastic.


Craig Zeni
Cary NC


Re: The Twelfth St. Louis Railroad Prototype Modeler's Meet

Bill Welch
 

My topic was one that has a fairly narrow appeal—maybe i am wrong—and what impressed me is how many faces I did not recognize listening. The conventional thinking is that our hobby is aging and therefore doomed. I don't see it based on the number of newcomers I see on a regular basis. I do wish I had included information for people about this list, and the Styrene and Resin lists.

My only complaint is that the Canteen closed too early. I heard interest in having more clinics and repeating clinics. The facility is really great I think and the CREW was on top of everything.

Bill Welch


Re: The Twelfth St. Louis Railroad Prototype Modeler's Meet

Lawrence Rast
 

Let me add my thanks to all for a job excellently done. It was a terrific event.

Lawrence Rast
Fort Wayne, Indiana


On Jul 23, 2018, at 9:21 AM, Clark Propst <cepropst@q.com> wrote:

I didn't visit with a lot of the manufacturers (importers) Sam Clarke of Kadee had some test shots of detail parts that will be very well received.
John Golden has the Dick Clark syndrome, he never seems to age. Guess final attendance total was 662.
Clark Propst


Re: The Twelfth St. Louis Railroad Prototype Modeler's Meet

Clark Propst
 

I didn't visit with a lot of the manufacturers (importers) Sam Clarke of Kadee had some test shots of detail parts that will be very well received.
John Golden has the Dick Clark syndrome, he never seems to age. Guess final attendance total was 662.
Clark Propst


Re: The Twelfth St. Louis Railroad Prototype Modeler's Meet

gtws00
 

I totally agree with TJ's comments. There were two hands on modeling clinics this year as well that was a nice addition.
George Toman


Re: CB&Q X-28 question

Dave Nelson
 

Thanks for the answer!

 

Dave Nelson

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of William Hirt
Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2018 9:40 AM

Dave,

The answer is no. The XM-26 was the last single sheathed car for the subsidiaries. Their next boxcars were part of the XM-32 steel cars in the 1950s.

Bill Hirt


Re: Masking over Archer rivets

Tim O'Connor
 


I have not heard of using wet white paper, but I do have a roll of very weak
adhesive paper from 3M - essentially a roll of Post-It note paper. I use it when
the surface is not too irregular (i.e. a flat surface).

Has anyone tried brushing Microscale liquid decal film over Archer rivets? I
wonder if it would help hold them in place securely while painting.

Tim O'Connor



On the model RR section of trainorders.com someone asked about masking over Archer rivets. The overwhelming consensus was: don't. Any tape, if pressed down well enough so there's no paint bleed under the edges, will want to pull the Archers off when removed.

But Javier Cervantes posted the following intriguing technique:
"Mask with wet white paper then let dry. Spray then remove the white paper mask. When you cut the paper ensure you have a steady hand for straight lines."

Anyone tried this, or even heard about it? Seems an interesting way to mask over irregular surfaces.

Tom Madden


Re: Masking over Archer rivets

al_brown03
 

Forgot to say: I plan to mask and spray late this week, maybe Thursday to Saturday.


Re: Masking over Archer rivets

al_brown03
 

In general I find Archers are fragile until I gloss-coat or paint over them, but will stand up to handling afterward. I'm about to paint a car with lots of Archers (photos posted in the Shake & Take group); they've been gloss-coated, but the car will need masking. I'll report on the results.

Al Brown, Melbourne, Fla.


Masking over Archer rivets

Tom Madden
 

On the model RR section of trainorders.com someone asked about masking over Archer rivets. The overwhelming consensus was: don't. Any tape, if pressed down well enough so there's no paint bleed under the edges, will want to pull the Archers off when removed.

But Javier Cervantes posted the following intriguing technique:
"Mask with wet white paper then let dry. Spray then remove the white paper mask. When you cut the paper ensure you have a steady hand for straight lines."

Anyone tried this, or even heard about it? Seems an interesting way to mask over irregular surfaces.

Tom Madden


Re: CB&Q X-28 question

William Hirt
 

Dave,

The answer is no. The XM-26 was the last single sheathed car for the subsidiaries. Their next boxcars were part of the XM-32 steel cars in the 1950s.

Bill Hirt


On 7/20/2018 12:37 PM, Dave Nelson wrote:

Were the CB&Q X-28 design boxcars ever owned by either C&S or FW&D?  I know some X-26 cars were but I’ve not been able to find an answer for the X-28.

 

Thanks in advance.

 

Dave Nelson



Re: IC Rebuilt boxcar Car F&C kit

paul.doggett2472 <paul.doggett2472@...>
 

Thank you Eric 

On Sunday, July 22, 2018, 3:05 pm, Eric Hansmann <eric@...> wrote:

Carmer hardware, when built. 



Eric Hansmann
Murfreesboro, TN

On Jul 22, 2018, at 8:51 AM, Paul Doggett via Groups.Io <paul.doggett2472@...> wrote:

Hi does anyone know what type of cut levers these cars had ?

Thank you Paul Doggett England 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿




Re: IC Rebuilt boxcar Car F&C kit

Eric Hansmann
 

Carmer hardware, when built. 



Eric Hansmann
Murfreesboro, TN

On Jul 22, 2018, at 8:51 AM, Paul Doggett via Groups.Io <paul.doggett2472@...> wrote:

Hi does anyone know what type of cut levers these cars had ?

Thank you Paul Doggett England 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿




IC Rebuilt boxcar Car F&C kit

Paul Doggett
 

Hi does anyone know what type of cut levers these cars had ?

Thank you Paul Doggett England 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿