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WTB: Intermountain Undec FP7 Loco Kit

Allen Cain
 

Looking to buy an Intermountain HO undecorated and unstarted complete FP7 loco kit number 49993. Would also consider their kit with sound, 49993S

Thanks, Allen Cain


Steam Related

John Sykes III
 

UP 4-8-8-4 4014 made its first mainline run on Wednesday pm and Thursday am from Cheyenne, WY to Ogden, UT for the sesquicentennial of the Transcontinental Railroad. As a UPRR aficionado and stockholder, the videos of this run (there are several on You Tube and other sites) brought tears to my eyes.  Now to see a video of it hauling 110 or so freight cars - heaven!

-- John


Re: Describing your hobby

Roger Huber <trainpainter@...>
 

I just tell them I'm a model railroader and proceed depending on their reaction. Some are curious and some are humored. The nasty ones I just ignore and explain there are many types of hobbies. Some play with trains, some spend all their money on beer and sports, some spend it all on boats, campers, tents and fishing stuff. It would suck if everyone did the same thing. Lakes are crowded enough on weekends just imagine what it would be like if everyone were there?

Roger Huber
Deer Creek Locomotive Works


On Friday, May 10, 2019, 4:51:43 PM CDT, John Riddell <riddellj@...> wrote:


Guys, 
when someone asks you what is your hobby, what do you answer ? Or how do you briefly describe your hobby to a "layman" ?

John Riddell


Describing your hobby

John Riddell
 

Guys, 
when someone asks you what is your hobby, what do you answer ? Or how do you briefly describe your hobby to a "layman" ?

John Riddell


Re: ATSF 50' boxes

charles slater
 

   John there were also some Fe-Q cars rebuilt into Fe-V Series 66200-66700 1935/36 (number of cars ?) rebuilt with steel sides and auto loaders inside. Also 51 class Fe-U cars were modified into Fe-W class cars in series 67261-67311 in 1935 also with auto loaders.
Charlie Slater

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From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of John Barry <northbaylines@...>
Sent: Thursday, May 9, 2019 6:51 PM
To: STMFC
Subject: [RealSTMFC] ATSF 50' boxes
 
Santa Fe purchased 3000 50' boxes between 1909 and 1930:

Class    Blt    Orig    1929
Fe-K    1909    500    462
Fe-K    1910    500    476
Fe-M    1910    500    479
Fe-Q    1924    500    499
Fe-R    1926    500    498
Fe-S    1928    500    500
Fe-U    1930    500

The DS Fe-K and M had the four fishbelly underframe members and became the core for the "whale belly" steel 50' rebuilds the Santa Fe began converting in 1936 with only 3 surviving as wood sheathed cars to the end of WWII.  The Fe-Q-R-S were similarly converted starting in 1940.  The Fe-S to 50 Fe-21 single door (SD) cars in 1940, 200 DD Fe-22 in 41, and 249 DD Fe-23 mostly in 41 with the last few by 53.  The Fe-R the SD Bx-40, and the Fe-Q the DD Fe-25.  The Fe-U's had their aux doors sealed to become SD Bx-35 in 1940 except for 17 engine cars that were converted in 1943. 


John Barry
 
ATSF North Bay Lines 
Golden Gates & Fast Freights 
Lovettsville, VA

707-490-9696 

PO Box 44736 
Washington, DC 20026-4736


Re: Sunshine PDS (was ex-ATSF Class Fe-13 Auto Boxcars on the StJ&LC)

Jim Hayes
 

After I retired a couple of times, my daughter suggested I create a website as something to do. She suggested Sunshine Models. I received a reluctant OK from Martin and that's where the website started. After Martin died and it was evident that there would be no more kits, I in effect froze the site, stated that fact on the home page, and called it a day. As time passed by, my HTML skills have faded and I'm not sure I have the energy to make a major addition to the website. As I said previously, I'm hoping to pass the whole thing to Eric. I'll let Eric and Frank decide on changes to the Sunshine Kits website.

P.S. I never believed that Martin didn't have email. I know he communicated regularly with his son in California and it wasn't via US mail. He had the skills to send me an occasional CD. I think he kept his email address secret to reduce the load of queries he would have gotten otherwise.

JimH


WESTERFIELD MODELS Newsletter, Vol 8, No 2, May, 2019

dahminator68
 

Hello Steam Era Modelers:
 
We are pleased to announce that Westerfield Models is having a Multi-day NATIONAL TRAIN DAY SALE   and   A ONE DAY SALE to celebrate the 150th Anniversary of the Transcontinental Railroad.
The Multi-Day National Train Day Sale will be in effect from 12:01 am May 8 through 11:59 pm May 27, 2019 and is available for orders placed on our Website, 
Mail-in Order Form, via Phone order, and via emailed order.  Our business hours are from 9am to 5pm, Pacific Time Zone.
Mailed in orders must be postmarked by May 28, 2019. 
In the Order Comment Section, Please indicate which Sale Coupon you are using and your payment method.

Please see further down for information on the ONE DAY TRANSCONTINENTAL RAILROAD 150th ANNIVERSARY SALE.
 
Please choose one of the following Sale Options:  These Options are for the National Train Day Sale ONLY:

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Westerfield Kits include new HO scale unpainted urethane castings, and are complete with quality details, detailed instruction/history sheets 
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Please also see our Ready To Ship Kits List on our website main page, left side: 



We are working on AT&SF Fe type furniture car Kits now.
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We are pleased to announce that TAHOE MODEL WORKS Trucks and Kadee Trucks and Couplers are now available through Westerfield Models.  
Tahoe Trucks are now listed on our Website Secure Model Store under "Tahoe Model Works Trucks".   All fifteen of the Tahoe Truck types are available with any of three wheelset types:  
Frame only, RP-25 Wheelsets, Semi-Scale Wheelsets.  
We also have a "Tahoe Trucks Listing" page on our Main website page that provides information on each type of truck and, in some cases a user list for that truck.
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Re: PRR 2D-F8 Trucks

Benjamin Hom
 

Robert Amsler, Jr. asked:
"I am looking for some 2D-F8 Pennsy trucks.  I don’t like the Kadee trucks because I don’t think the sprung trucks look prototypical.  I have looked for Bowser and Red Caboose trucks but can’t find any.  Does anyone have any suggestions for trucks that would look close?"

Previous responses (including some dating back to 2004) have covered this; however, here are several other things to consider:
- Bolster design changed over the lifetime of these trucks, with the Red Caboose trucks representing an earlier version and the Bowser trucks representing later trucks.

- Bowser charges a flat shipping fee of $9.95.  Consider bundling your order with other items if you order directly to amortize the shipping.

- Additionally, Bowser included these trucks as stand-ins for AAR cast sideframe ("Bettendorf") trucks in non-PRR kits, particularly ACF covered hoppers, so you can rob trucks from those kits as you'll need to replace them anyway.

- Finally, consider the Kadee trucks with view blocks (to minimize the Ovechkin effect) for open cars as they'll add weight for tracking.  (If you go that route for the Bowser hoppers and gons, you can then reuse those trucks for house cars).


Ben Hom  


Re: Tangent Tank Car Additions

Lawrence Rast
 

Micahel,

Brilliant. Many thanks for the idea!

Lawrence Rast
Fort Wayne, Indiana


On May 10, 2019, at 9:34 AM, Michael Gross <ActorMichaelGross@...> wrote:

Johannes, those are, indeed, plastic wheels.  I always install plastic wheels when painting and weathering models.  Among other things, the axles mask the stock truck axle pockets from paint.  The model will eventually have metal .088 semi-scale wheels.
--
Michael Gross
On the road - Lake Tahoe, NV


Modeling a ATSF Bx-11 rod braces

Bill Welch
 

I am working on two Westy Classics, ATST Bx-11 and Bx-12 with raised roof. The 1955 photo I have of a Bx-11 shows the corner rods still in place. I wanted these to have relief or stand away for the side so I used SS tubing, .012 wire held on with the very small Yarmouth PE eyebolts. They eyebolts are small enough they can barely be seen and will disappear when the model is painted. I like the effect. Thanks to my friend Peter Aue for the very small eyebolts

Bill Welch


Re: Tangent Tank Car Additions

vapeurchapelon
 

Hello Michael,
 
this definitely makes sense.
 
Greetings
 
Johannes
 
Gesendet: Freitag, 10. Mai 2019 um 15:34 Uhr
Von: "Michael Gross" <ActorMichaelGross@...>
An: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Betreff: Re: [RealSTMFC] Tangent Tank Car Additions
Johannes, those are, indeed, plastic wheels.  I always install plastic wheels when painting and weathering models.  Among other things, the axles mask the stock truck axle pockets from paint.  The model will eventually have metal .088 semi-scale wheels.
--
Michael Gross
On the road - Lake Tahoe, NV


Re: Tangent Tank Car Additions

Tim O'Connor
 

that's a really good idea! doh, it never occurred to me to do that. :-[

Tim O'

On 5/10/2019 9:34 AM, Michael Gross wrote:
Johannes, those are, indeed, plastic wheels.  I always install plastic wheels when painting and weathering models.  Among other things, the axles mask the stock truck axle pockets from paint.  The model will eventually have metal .088 semi-scale wheels.
--
Michael Gross
On the road - Lake Tahoe, NV
--
*Tim O'Connor*
*Sterling, Massachusetts*


Re: PRR 2D-F8 Trucks

Tim O'Connor
 


Kadee has been converting their trucks to the HGC plastic. I think their priority has been
to first convert the trucks for their RTR freight cars. Give Sam a ring and find it if they will be
bringing out the 2D-F8 trucks in HGC.

Meanwhile a tiny sliver of black styrene glued to the back side of the metal trucks will get
rid of the "see through" appearance of the metal trucks.

My gripe with the metal trucks is how poorly they roll. I replace the wheels with Reboxx wheelsets
and they roll just fine. The HGC trucks roll very well.

Tim O'Connor




On 5/10/2019 12:46 AM, Robert J. Amsler, Jr. wrote:

I am looking for some 2D-F8 Pennsy trucks.  I don’t like the Kadee trucks because I don’t think the sprung trucks look prototypical.  I have looked for Bowser and Red Caboose trucks but can’t find any.  Does anyone have any suggestions for trucks that would look close?

 

Thanks in advance.

 

Robert J. Amsler, Jr.


--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: Etched freight car ladders

mopacfirst
 

The 8 rung ladders are probably there because they were an option, added to the Branchline kits for prototypes that had the 8 rung.  The regular side and end detail sprues had 7 rung ladders, along with the side and end grabs, tackboards, etc..

Ron Merrick


Re: Tangent Tank Car Additions

Michael Gross
 

Johannes, those are, indeed, plastic wheels.  I always install plastic wheels when painting and weathering models.  Among other things, the axles mask the stock truck axle pockets from paint.  The model will eventually have metal .088 semi-scale wheels.
--
Michael Gross
On the road - Lake Tahoe, NV


Re: [Non-DoD Source] [RealSTMFC] PRR 2D-F8 Trucks

Gatwood, Elden J SAD
 

Robert;

Order the Bowser truck directly: part no 74286, and add your choice of wheelsets.

Elden Gatwood

-----Original Message-----
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Robert J. Amsler, Jr.
Sent: Friday, May 10, 2019 12:47 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [Non-DoD Source] [RealSTMFC] PRR 2D-F8 Trucks

I am looking for some 2D-F8 Pennsy trucks. I don't like the Kadee trucks because I don't think the sprung trucks look prototypical. I have looked for Bowser and Red Caboose trucks but can't find any. Does anyone have any suggestions for trucks that would look close?



Thanks in advance.



Robert J. Amsler, Jr.

514 Dover Place

Saint Louis, Missouri 63111

(314) 606-6118 (Telephone)

(314) 754-2688 (Facsimile)

MPFan1@charter.net


Re: Tangent Tank Car Additions

vapeurchapelon
 

Beautyful car, no doubt!
But do you have installed plastic wheels? The flanges do look much larger than regular RP25s.
 
Best regards
 
Johannes
Modeling the early post-war years up to about 1953
 
Gesendet: Freitag, 10. Mai 2019 um 00:24 Uhr
Von: "Michael Gross" <ActorMichaelGross@...>
An: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Betreff: [RealSTMFC] Tangent Tank Car Additions
Because I keep breaking things, I end up doing more detailing on a ready-to-run car than I otherwise might, and the Tangent 3-dome tank is a perfect example.

It's a beautiful model right out of the box but, no sooner had I begun the weathering process than I broke one of the fragile corner sill steps.  Santa Fe modeler friend Peter Aue offered to make a new set of etched brass replacements and, after breaking two more of the sill steps, they came in handy.  (These are now available as Yarmouth Model Words part YMW-220). One improved detail often leads to another, and I soon found myself carving away major parts of the brake detail and replacing it with brass wire, clevises (Tichy #8021) and brake chain (A-Line #29219).  Original hoses were replace with Hi-Tech details 22" hoses, with new brackets fashioned from brass strap stock.

Still need to paint the new parts, install semi-scale wheel sets, apply warning placards, and reattach part of the valve I knocked off on the far left dome.  Weathering to follow.

What began as a simple weathering job became—owing to my clumsiness—so much more.

Cheers!

Michael Gross
On the road - Lake Tahoe, NV


Re: Etched freight car ladders

 

Ben,

They’re definitely there and turned up in a search:
https://shop.atlasrr.com/p-4054-ho-8-rung-ladders-2-sets-side-and-end.aspx

/Colin


Re: PRR 2D-F8 Trucks

Dave Parker
 

I think this has been discussed before, probably more than once.  The only way I know to acquire the RC version is to stumble into an older kit (or RTR?) that came with them.

AFAIK, the Bowsers are still available.  P/N 74277 for the trucks, 74286 for the frames. 

Dave Parker
Riverside, CA


PRR 2D-F8 Trucks

Robert J. Amsler, Jr.
 

I am looking for some 2D-F8 Pennsy trucks.  I don’t like the Kadee trucks because I don’t think the sprung trucks look prototypical.  I have looked for Bowser and Red Caboose trucks but can’t find any.  Does anyone have any suggestions for trucks that would look close?

 

Thanks in advance.

 

Robert J. Amsler, Jr.

514 Dover Place

Saint Louis, Missouri 63111

(314) 606-6118  (Telephone)

(314) 754-2688  (Facsimile)

MPFan1@...

 

 

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