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Re: Bad Ladder Day

Jack Mullen
 

Gary, that's a nice find; unusual shot of a very distinctive car.  Besides the damage to both ladders at that corner, the step under the door took a hit. I don't see any other signs of damage on the carbody. I've seen cars with a  ladder or step with similar damage that resulted from somebody trying to use it as a roping staple, but all three?  Really slow learner? ;^)

Jack Mullen


Re: Duryea UF applications

william darnaby
 

On page 302 of the 1949-1951 issue of the Car Builders Cyclopedia are plans of a B&O M-55 boxcar that clearly show the Duryea UF in detail.  It has solid cross-bearers.

 

Bill Darnaby

 

 

 

 

On 2/14/2019 9:07 PM, rwitt_2000 via Groups.Io wrote:

B&O 285471, an M-56 built 1952 (late solid?)

It would be solid type that used pressed steel cross-bearers. Also the Duryea design changed  in the 1940s to accommodate the standard AAR "Z" center sills.  They were still receiving new patents as late as the mid-1950s.

Bob Witt


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Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: Bad Ladder Day

Dennis Storzek
 

On Fri, Feb 15, 2019 at 09:54 AM, earlyrail wrote:
Nice view of a MILW ice reefer.
Many of these were painted as medium/light blue.
The car is marked ICE SERVICE. In spite of the fact that it does not appear to have a company service number, I believe these were used only in company service.

Earlier the MILW had some wood cars in the same service, painted the same medium blue.

Dennis Storzek


Re: A quick update on John Greene

Ralph W. Brown
 

Hi Pierre,

Thanks for letting us know. I gather the prognosis is good. I'll send him a note.

Pax,


Ralph Brown
Portland, Maine
PRRT&HS No. 3966
NMRA No. L2532

rbrown51[at]maine[dot]rr[dot]com

-----Original Message-----
From: Pierre Oliver
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2019 9:44 AM
To: ResinFreightCarBuilders@groups.io ; main@RealSTMFC.groups.io ; Proto-Layouts@groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] A quick update on John Greene

Good morning,

I just had a phone call from a friend of John Greene of Bethlehem Car Works.
John has recently had some form of cardiac surgery. He's healing well
and fully expects to return to the fold as soon as possible.
Look for John at an RPM in a couple of months.

--
Pierre Oliver
www.elgincarshops.com
www.yarmouthmodelworks.com


Re: Offered: IMRC 12 panel undec HO box car kits-cheap

Andy Carlson
 

Garth-
These IM kits are for 10"0" IH cars, which I believe were only found on the SP and the GN. CB&T Shops made the 10'6" IH cars, with rivets sized to emulate Folgers 2 pound coffee can lids.
-Andy Carlson
Ojai CA

On Friday, February 15, 2019, 9:51:15 AM PST, Garth Groff <sarahsan@...> wrote:


Andy,

Are these 10' IH or 10' 6"?

Inquiring minds want to know.

Yours Aye,


Garth Groff

On 2/15/19 12:39 PM, Andy Carlson wrote:
Hello-
I have many new 12 panel 40' box car undec kits left over from my days into enhanced kit offerings. Since many of the parts are difficult to get, I have decided to liquidate the remaining kits. IM #41099.

These kits have a $20 list price.

I am offering these for $13 each, plus buyer to pay shipping of $4 per car to the US.

I accept checks and money orders. With a small fee PayPal is accepted. Contact me off-List (Please) at <midcentury@...>

Thanks,
-Andy Carlson
Ojai CA


Re: Bad Ladder Day

earlyrail
 

Nice view of a MILW ice reefer.
Many of these were painted as medium/light blue.

Howard Garner


Re: Offered: IMRC 12 panel undec HO box car kits-cheap

Garth Groff <sarahsan@...>
 

Andy,

Are these 10' IH or 10' 6"?

Inquiring minds want to know.

Yours Aye,


Garth Groff

On 2/15/19 12:39 PM, Andy Carlson wrote:
Hello-
I have many new 12 panel 40' box car undec kits left over from my days into enhanced kit offerings. Since many of the parts are difficult to get, I have decided to liquidate the remaining kits. IM #41099.

These kits have a $20 list price.

I am offering these for $13 each, plus buyer to pay shipping of $4 per car to the US.

I accept checks and money orders. With a small fee PayPal is accepted. Contact me off-List (Please) at <midcentury@...>

Thanks,
-Andy Carlson
Ojai CA


Re: Tichy 52" War emergency gondola kit

Bob Chaparro
 

Review: Tichy/Intermountain War Emergency Gondola

A review (8/1/2015) by Steve Sandifer from the Santa Fe Railway Historical & Modeling Society:

http://old.atsfrr.org/Reviews/HO/Freight/TichyEmGond/Index.htm

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Offered: IMRC 12 panel undec HO box car kits-cheap

Andy Carlson
 

Hello-
I have many new 12 panel 40' box car undec kits left over from my days into enhanced kit offerings. Since many of the parts are difficult to get, I have decided to liquidate the remaining kits. IM #41099.

These kits have a $20 list price.

I am offering these for $13 each, plus buyer to pay shipping of $4 per car to the US.

I accept checks and money orders. With a small fee PayPal is accepted. Contact me off-List (Please) at <midcentury@...>

Thanks,
-Andy Carlson
Ojai CA


Re: Flat Black

Ed
 

I use that as well but for applications of black not as a primer. Why have you decided to use it as a primer? What qualities make it appeal to you?

Ed Robinson


Bad Ladder Day

gary laakso
 

Here are the results when the Milwaukee had a bad ladder day:

 

http://rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=4769374 

 

Gary Laakso

Northwest of Mike Brock

 


WFE 54147-54291 Series Reefers

Nelson Moyer
 

After receiving information from Ted and Steve, I’ve determined that the ART 12000 series reefer can’t be easily converted into a 15000 series car. An alternative appears to be the WFE 54147-54291 series if I can get photos showing the side and B end. I’ve checked the reefer series for Focus on Freight Cars, and that series isn’t covered. Likewise for the color reefer book and RPC volumes. Does anyone have a photo that answers the main questions regarding the side and end sill construction, the presence or absence of a brake step, and door height and latch hardware configuration?

 

Nelson Moyer


Re: Tichy 52" War emergency gondola kit

mopacfirst
 

I have a half-finished CNJ one with the Duryea underframe.  The exposed fishbelly bracing on the F&C model is a little thick, but I just looked at it and a little file work on the back side should make it look a lot better.  All in all, still your best option if you want a steel-sided one.

Thanks for reminding me.

Ron Merrick


Re: Duryea UF applications

rwitt_2000
 

Tim,

The Speedwitch model follows the "solid design".  Make note that it is specific to modeling the Duryea underframes as applied to the B&O Classes M-26D/26E.  The biggest difference is later designs could accommodate the AAR standard "Z" center sills.  The M-26 had "I" beams for the center sills.

From the photo of Jack Spencer's underframe I can't determine if he modeled AAR center sills, which I would expect for a car built in 1957.

Bob Witt


The newest kit form Yarmouth Model Works

Pierre Oliver
 

Finally!
The newest kit from Yarmouth Model Works, the D&H 40' 50 ton Oneonta built boxcar, is finally on the website and ready for online purchasing.
You can view the kit here, http://www.yarmouthmodelworks.com/index.php/ResinModelKits/YMW-116

Thanks

--
Pierre Oliver
www.elgincarshops.com
www.yarmouthmodelworks.com


A quick update on John Greene

Pierre Oliver
 

Good morning,

I just had a phone call from a friend of John Greene of Bethlehem Car Works.
John has recently had some form of cardiac surgery. He's healing well and fully expects to return to the fold as soon as possible.
Look for John at an RPM in a couple of months.

--
Pierre Oliver
www.elgincarshops.com
www.yarmouthmodelworks.com


Re: Tichy 52" War emergency gondola kit

Walter Cox
 

Thanks Ben,
I model CN so I'll be needing GTW and some of the more northern of the other roads. The F&C kit should cover the rebuilds.
Walt.

In a message dated 2/14/2019 8:45:30 AM Eastern Standard Time, b.hom@... writes:

Walt Cox asked:
"All the recent posts on Gondolas made me think of the Tichy War Emergency kit and whether any of the roads that had them would have not replaced their wood sides with steel by 1959. Does anyone know of a resource that I could refer to to find out if this model could be used on a 1959 dated layout?"

Richard Hendrickson had a two-part article on these cars in the May 2002 and June 2002 issues of Railmodel Journal, including photos of NYC, PRR, ATSF, Texas & Northern, CNJ, RDG, RI, GTW, and IHB with steel sides.


Ben Hom




Re: Tichy 52" War emergency gondola kit

Walter Cox
 

Thanks Tim, Now I'll keep an eye out for the nailable steel floor on e-bay.
Walter

In a message dated 2/14/2019 1:21:05 AM Eastern Standard Time, timboconnor@... writes:


Walter

You should be very happy to learn that the Santa Fe still had 307 unrebuilt 52 ft 6 inch
War Emergency gondolas in service in 1959. I can also tell you the Santa Fe kept these
cars for a LONG time - into the 1980's! (Although by then they had steel sides.)

Note - these ATSF cars had Nailable Steel Flooring. The only correct model in HO I've
ever seen with a correct NSF floor is the ancient (pre-1960?) Revell PRR gondola, later
marketed by Concor.

Tim O'



On 2/14/2019 12:54 AM, Walter Cox via Groups.Io wrote:



--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: Duryea UF applications (redux)

Tim O'Connor
 


Oops. Forgot the photo.


Bob, is the solid design offered by Speedwitch?

The attached photo shows Jack Spencer's scratchbuilt late (1955?) Duryea underframe that was
applied to a good number of General American box cars



On 2/14/2019 9:07 PM, rwitt_2000 via Groups.Io wrote:
B&O 285471, an M-56 built 1952 (late solid?)

It would be solid type that used pressed steel cross-bearers. Also the Duryea design changed  in the 1940s to accommodate the standard AAR "Z" center sills.  They were still receiving new patents as late as the mid-1950s.

Bob Witt

--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: Duryea UF applications

Tim O'Connor
 


Bob, is the solid design offered by Speedwitch?

The attached photo shows Jack Spencer's scratchbuilt late (1955?) Duryea underframe that was
applied to a good number of General American box cars



On 2/14/2019 9:07 PM, rwitt_2000 via Groups.Io wrote:
B&O 285471, an M-56 built 1952 (late solid?)

It would be solid type that used pressed steel cross-bearers. Also the Duryea design changed  in the 1940s to accommodate the standard AAR "Z" center sills.  They were still receiving new patents as late as the mid-1950s.

Bob Witt

--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts

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