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Vanderbilt Tank Car

gary laakso
 


Re: Can Anyone identify the gondola coupled to the MP blister sided gondola?

Todd Horton
 

Former vent boxcar in M of W service.

Todd Horton


On Thursday, March 7, 2019, 2:50:44 PM EST, Ralph W. Brown <rbrown51@...> wrote:


Hi Claus,
 
Good eye.  Now that you’ve brought them to our attention, I can see them too.
 
Does anyone have any thoughts on what looks to be CG 39623 shown to the left of the water tower?  A ventilated boxcar perhaps?
 
Pax,
 
 
Ralph Brown
Portland, Maine
PRRT&HS No. 3966
NMRA No. L2532

rbrown51[at]maine[dot]rr[dot]com
 
From: Claus Schlund &#92;(HGM&#92;)
Sent: Thursday, March 7, 2019 2:28 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Can Anyone identify the gondola coupled to the MP blister sided gondola?
 
Hi Gary and List Members,
 
If you look at the image at "Original" resolution, one can faintly (very faintly) make out the diagonals on the near half of the car. They don't show well because the angle of the sun illuminates those diagonals very evenly, and so they seem to disappear unless you do some close inspection.
 
The "Original" resolution image can be viewed at the link below.
 
 
 
You might have to click on the image in some browsers before you can see the image at its full resolution.
 
Claus Schlund
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: gary laakso
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2019 12:37 PM
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Can Anyone identify the gondola coupled to the MP blister sided gondola?
 

The picture is on the Central of Georgia and the gondola in question has about half of one side with diagonals and the other without:

 

https://donstrack.smugmug.com/UtahRails/Emil-Albrecht-Photos/1944-Columbus-Georgia/i-jDSR4g2/A 

 

Gary Laakso

Northwest of Mike Brock


Re: Can Anyone identify the gondola coupled to the MP blister sided gondola?

Ralph W. Brown
 

Hi Bruce,
 
Given its apparent age and the 1944 date for the photo, I suspect you’re right.
 
Thanks for confirming my thoughts on the car type.
 
Pax,
 
 
Ralph Brown
Portland, Maine
PRRT&HS No. 3966
NMRA No. L2532

rbrown51[at]maine[dot]rr[dot]com
 

From: Bruce Smith
Sent: Thursday, March 7, 2019 2:57 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Can Anyone identify the gondola coupled to the MP blister sided gondola?
 
Ralph,
 
It certainly looks like CG 39623 is a ventilated boxcar, but given the light paint and dark stencil, I think that it might be in company service and not revenue service.
 

Regards

Bruce

 

Bruce F. Smith           

Auburn, AL

"Some days you are the bug, some days you are the windshield."




On Mar 7, 2019, at 1:50 PM, Ralph W. Brown <rbrown51@...> wrote:
 
Hi Claus,
 
Good eye.  Now that you’ve brought them to our attention, I can see them too.
 
Does anyone have any thoughts on what looks to be CG 39623 shown to the left of the water tower?  A ventilated boxcar perhaps?
 
Pax,
 
 
Ralph Brown
Portland, Maine
PRRT&HS No. 3966
NMRA No. L2532

rbrown51[at]maine[dot]rr[dot]com
 
From: Claus Schlund &#92;(HGM&#92;)
Sent: Thursday, March 7, 2019 2:28 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Can Anyone identify the gondola coupled to the MP blister sided gondola?
 
Hi Gary and List Members,
 
If you look at the image at "Original" resolution, one can faintly (very faintly) make out the diagonals on the near half of the car. They don't show well because the angle of the sun illuminates those diagonals very evenly, and so they seem to disappear unless you do some close inspection.
 
The "Original" resolution image can be viewed at the link below.
 
 
 
You might have to click on the image in some browsers before you can see the image at its full resolution.
 
Claus Schlund
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: gary laakso
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2019 12:37 PM
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Can Anyone identify the gondola coupled to the MP blister sided gondola?
 
The picture is on the Central of Georgia and the gondola in question has about half of one side with diagonals and the other without:
 
 
Gary Laakso
Northwest of Mike Brock
 


Re: Can Anyone identify the gondola coupled to the MP blister sided gondola?

Bruce Smith
 

Ralph,

It certainly looks like CG 39623 is a ventilated boxcar, but given the light paint and dark stencil, I think that it might be in company service and not revenue service.

Regards

Bruce


Bruce F. Smith            

Auburn, AL

"Some days you are the bug, some days you are the windshield."




On Mar 7, 2019, at 1:50 PM, Ralph W. Brown <rbrown51@...> wrote:

Hi Claus,
 
Good eye.  Now that you’ve brought them to our attention, I can see them too.
 
Does anyone have any thoughts on what looks to be CG 39623 shown to the left of the water tower?  A ventilated boxcar perhaps?
 
Pax,
 
 
Ralph Brown
Portland, Maine
PRRT&HS No. 3966
NMRA No. L2532

rbrown51[at]maine[dot]rr[dot]com
 
From: Claus Schlund &#92;(HGM&#92;)
Sent: Thursday, March 7, 2019 2:28 PM
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Can Anyone identify the gondola coupled to the MP blister sided gondola?
 
Hi Gary and List Members,
 
If you look at the image at "Original" resolution, one can faintly (very faintly) make out the diagonals on the near half of the car. They don't show well because the angle of the sun illuminates those diagonals very evenly, and so they seem to disappear unless you do some close inspection.
 
The "Original" resolution image can be viewed at the link below.
 
 
 
You might have to click on the image in some browsers before you can see the image at its full resolution.
 
Claus Schlund
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: gary laakso
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2019 12:37 PM
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Can Anyone identify the gondola coupled to the MP blister sided gondola?
 
The picture is on the Central of Georgia and the gondola in question has about half of one side with diagonals and the other without:
 
 
Gary Laakso
Northwest of Mike Brock


Re: Can Anyone identify the gondola coupled to the MP blister sided gondola?

Ralph W. Brown
 

Hi Claus,
 
Good eye.  Now that you’ve brought them to our attention, I can see them too.
 
Does anyone have any thoughts on what looks to be CG 39623 shown to the left of the water tower?  A ventilated boxcar perhaps?
 
Pax,
 
 
Ralph Brown
Portland, Maine
PRRT&HS No. 3966
NMRA No. L2532

rbrown51[at]maine[dot]rr[dot]com
 

From: Claus Schlund &#92;(HGM&#92;)
Sent: Thursday, March 7, 2019 2:28 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Can Anyone identify the gondola coupled to the MP blister sided gondola?
 
Hi Gary and List Members,
 
If you look at the image at "Original" resolution, one can faintly (very faintly) make out the diagonals on the near half of the car. They don't show well because the angle of the sun illuminates those diagonals very evenly, and so they seem to disappear unless you do some close inspection.
 
The "Original" resolution image can be viewed at the link below.
 
 
 
You might have to click on the image in some browsers before you can see the image at its full resolution.
 
Claus Schlund
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: gary laakso
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2019 12:37 PM
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Can Anyone identify the gondola coupled to the MP blister sided gondola?
 

The picture is on the Central of Georgia and the gondola in question has about half of one side with diagonals and the other without:

 

https://donstrack.smugmug.com/UtahRails/Emil-Albrecht-Photos/1944-Columbus-Georgia/i-jDSR4g2/A 

 

Gary Laakso

Northwest of Mike Brock


Re: Can Anyone identify the gondola coupled to the MP blister sided gondola?

Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 

Hi Gary and List Members,
 
If you look at the image at "Original" resolution, one can faintly (very faintly) make out the diagonals on the near half of the car. They don't show well because the angle of the sun illuminates those diagonals very evenly, and so they seem to disappear unless you do some close inspection.
 
The "Original" resolution image can be viewed at the link below.
 
 
 
You might have to click on the image in some browsers before you can see the image at its full resolution.
 
Claus Schlund
 
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2019 12:37 PM
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Can Anyone identify the gondola coupled to the MP blister sided gondola?

The picture is on the Central of Georgia and the gondola in question has about half of one side with diagonals and the other without:

 

https://donstrack.smugmug.com/UtahRails/Emil-Albrecht-Photos/1944-Columbus-Georgia/i-jDSR4g2/A 

 

Gary Laakso

Northwest of Mike Brock


Re: Can Anyone identify the gondola coupled to the MP blister sided gondola?

Jim Gates
 

I have noticed a lot of photographs of gondolas look like this, but I think it is some kind of illusion.

At first I thought this might be one of the taller AT&SF post Caswell gondolas, but those had a Pratt pattern for the truss, I believe this car has a Howe truss pattern.


Jim Gates
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On Thu, 3/7/19, gary laakso <vasa0vasa@earthlink.net> wrote:

Subject: [RealSTMFC] Can Anyone identify the gondola coupled to the MP blister sided gondola?
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Date: Thursday, March 7, 2019, 11:37 AM

The picture is on the Central
of Georgia and the gondola in question has about half of one
side with diagonals and the other without:  https://donstrack.smugmug.com/UtahRails/Emil-Albrecht-Photos/1944-Columbus-Georgia/i-jDSR4g2/A 
 Gary LaaksoNorthwest of Mike
Brock


Re: Looking for more information on NRC 19220 Refrigerator Car

Armand Premo
 

Oooops,ERDX.Armand Premo

On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 12:35 PM Armand Premo via Groups.Io <arm.p.prem=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:
While we are at it,how about information on RDEX reefers?.Armand Premo

On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 12:21 PM mopacfirst <ron.merrick@...> wrote:
Looking at this car more closely, I'm pretty sure it has a Despatch style roof.  Really can't tell about the ends.

I'm away from my reference material now, but there was a class of MDT reefers with Murphy roof and a 4-3 end, which can be built from an R-40-23 reefer with an extra pair of ends and a bit of slicing and dicing.  This preceded my awareness of the Rydarowicz parts.  But this car is probably not that one, so I'm not sure an R-40-25 would contribute anything additional.  The difference between the two classes, in modeling terms, pretty much means Murphy style vs. diagonal pattern roof panels.

Ron Merrick


Can Anyone identify the gondola coupled to the MP blister sided gondola?

gary laakso
 

The picture is on the Central of Georgia and the gondola in question has about half of one side with diagonals and the other without:

 

https://donstrack.smugmug.com/UtahRails/Emil-Albrecht-Photos/1944-Columbus-Georgia/i-jDSR4g2/A 

 

Gary Laakso

Northwest of Mike Brock


Re: Looking for more information on NRC 19220 Refrigerator Car

Armand Premo
 

While we are at it,how about information on RDEX reefers?.Armand Premo

On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 12:21 PM mopacfirst <ron.merrick@...> wrote:
Looking at this car more closely, I'm pretty sure it has a Despatch style roof.  Really can't tell about the ends.

I'm away from my reference material now, but there was a class of MDT reefers with Murphy roof and a 4-3 end, which can be built from an R-40-23 reefer with an extra pair of ends and a bit of slicing and dicing.  This preceded my awareness of the Rydarowicz parts.  But this car is probably not that one, so I'm not sure an R-40-25 would contribute anything additional.  The difference between the two classes, in modeling terms, pretty much means Murphy style vs. diagonal pattern roof panels.

Ron Merrick


Re: Looking for more information on NRC 19220 Refrigerator Car

mopacfirst
 

Looking at this car more closely, I'm pretty sure it has a Despatch style roof.  Really can't tell about the ends.

I'm away from my reference material now, but there was a class of MDT reefers with Murphy roof and a 4-3 end, which can be built from an R-40-23 reefer with an extra pair of ends and a bit of slicing and dicing.  This preceded my awareness of the Rydarowicz parts.  But this car is probably not that one, so I'm not sure an R-40-25 would contribute anything additional.  The difference between the two classes, in modeling terms, pretty much means Murphy style vs. diagonal pattern roof panels.

Ron Merrick


Re: Looking for more information on NRC 19220 Refrigerator Car

Tim O'Connor
 


Does anyone know what became of Stan Rydarowicz's resin parts masters? I am certain
he offered parts to kitbash some of the MDT reefers.

Tim O'Connor



On 3/7/2019 11:25 AM, Ben Sullivan wrote:
Thank you to the couple folks who reached out in assisting with identifying the MDT NRC refrigerator car I inquired about. I think for now I will go with an Intermountain R-40-25 Refrigerator Car, as this closely represents the era and needs of my prototype. I'll keep gathering info and seeking out the books that were mentioned. In searching I also noticed that there is an article from the NYC Historical society referenced: "MDT Refrigerator Cars," by Roger C. Hinman, Central Headlight (New York Central Historical Society), 2nd Quarter 1998, p.13; I wonder if this would be of help. 

I also noticed that the photo in the post was a lower resolution than my original, which you can find here on my website: NRC #19220

I've got some leads. Thank you!

--
Ben Sullivan
Brookeville, MD


--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: Looking for more information on NRC 19220 Refrigerator Car

 

Thank you to the couple folks who reached out in assisting with identifying the MDT NRC refrigerator car I inquired about. I think for now I will go with an Intermountain R-40-25 Refrigerator Car, as this closely represents the era and needs of my prototype. I'll keep gathering info and seeking out the books that were mentioned. In searching I also noticed that there is an article from the NYC Historical society referenced: "MDT Refrigerator Cars," by Roger C. Hinman, Central Headlight (New York Central Historical Society), 2nd Quarter 1998, p.13; I wonder if this would be of help. 

I also noticed that the photo in the post was a lower resolution than my original, which you can find here on my website: NRC #19220

I've got some leads. Thank you!

--
Ben Sullivan
Brookeville, MD


Throwback Thursday: John Allen Varney Ad

Benjamin Hom
 

John Allen Varney ad, August 1954 issue of Model Railroader.


Ben Hom


Re: .010 x .010 SQUARE styrene

Bill Welch
 

Plastruct's 0.010 Rod is my go to material for ladder rungs, I purchased the square 0.010 material by mistake and was in the middle of working on some ladders when I said to myself, "hmm, these look strange" and checked the package. Imagine my surprise.

Bill Welch


Re: .010 x .010 SQUARE styrene

Tim O'Connor
 

Quite a few years ago Plastruct suddenly offered a lot of styrene shapes no one had - like
1/4 round, 1/2 round, tiny rod, hex, triangle, etc. Very useful shapes. I discovered them at
DPH because none of the shops in my area carry it.

Tim O'

On 3/6/2019 4:10 PM, Dennis Storzek wrote:
OK. In a recent topic we had someone state that Evergreen made .010 x .010 "square rod", whatever that is. Then someone else said Slater did too. Then someone else chimed in that they only find .010 x .020. Then someone retorted that the .010 x .010 is ROD, suggesting that it's round. Now, lm stuck here in the hospital with only my phone, which won't connect to any of the web sites, and I'm confused. Does anyone make .010 x .010 SQUARE STRIP? Part number, please?

Dennis Storzek
--
*Tim O'Connor*
*Sterling, Massachusetts*


Re: .010 x .010 SQUARE styrene

Fred Jansz
 

Dennis, that was me.
See my post #162657 (including the link to Plastruct, click on the name):

All,
found Plastruct makes .010 SQUARE rod (#90709), that could be used -cut in thin slices- to (almost) replicate my 1/2" square bolts/nuts on the 3" and 5" Z-shapes.
(they also make .010 round rod FYI # 90850).

cheers,
Fred Jansz


Re: .010 x .010 SQUARE styrene

Tony Thompson
 

Paul Doggett wrote:

Slaters only do 0.010 x 0.020 strip Evergreen don’t seem to do it either.

   I'm the one who reported on Slater's and it's because I still have the packet of their square strip from over 30 years ago. Obviously not a current product.

Tony Thompson




Re: .010 x .010 SQUARE styrene

Dennis Storzek
 

Thanks Ben. I haven't paid much attention to Plastruct over the years; only vaguely aware that they had added a line of styrene shapes.. this looks useful.

Dennis Storzek


Re: .010 x .010 SQUARE styrene

Paul Doggett
 

Dennis 

Slaters only do 0.010 x 0.020 strip Evergreen don’t seem to do it either.

Paul Doggett England 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 


On 6 Mar 2019, at 21:27, Gary Bechdol <garyeb1947@...> wrote:

Dennis:

Plastruc catalogs 0.010 square rod.

Gary Bechdol
Stone Mountain,  Ga 

On Wed, Mar 6, 2019, 4:10 PM Dennis Storzek <destorzek@...> wrote:
OK. In a recent topic we had someone state that Evergreen made .010 x .010 "square rod", whatever that is. Then someone else said Slater did too. Then someone else chimed in that they only find .010 x .020. Then someone retorted that the .010 x .010 is ROD, suggesting that it's round. Now, lm stuck here in the hospital with only my phone, which won't connect to any of the web sites, and I'm confused. Does anyone make .010 x .010 SQUARE STRIP? Part number, please?

Dennis Storzek

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