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Re: Bangor & Aroostook 1927 Boxcar 61000 series (Reefer Colors)
Bill Welch
That is the $64K question Tim. To me this is the most obvious gap in kit availability reefer-wise or freight car wise for that matter in HO with a variety of decades, reporting marks and paint schemes. Someone is missing the boat here.
Bill Welch
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Re: Bangor & Aroostook 1927 Boxcar 61000 series (Reefer Colors)
I have a set of the Champ decals, and my potato is definitely a rich brown color, not black or grey. So... the $64,000 question... is there an HO scale MODEL for the MDT reefers acquired by the Bangor & Aroostook? I've included a couple of scans from Ted Culotta - note the date on BAR "S1300" - it's 11-1949. And the potato-less scheme on BAR 6652 ! Tim O'Connor I thought so since they are brown. The Champ decal seems black or dark grey. Bill Welch
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Re: PRRPro X23 project
Chuck Cover
Group,
I have attached two photos of finished cars that would qualify for this project. Both are kit-bashes of Cannon Ball Car Shops X23 flat styrene kits that I built many years ago. There is an X23 tool car and an NX23 cabin car. I am not sure how to post photos to the file of this group or if these attached photo posts will be automatically placed in a “photos” section. I will provide some additional detail on building these two cars in a later post. I am posting these to give others some options on this project, although the Westerfield X23 is an excellent starting point.
I have also build the Mathieson version of the R7 from the Westerfield kit.
Chuck Cover Santa Fe, NM
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Re: Printing suggestions?
Brian Termunde
Sorry, I forgot to mention that I am on the digest mode, if that makes a difference.
Take Care,
Brian R. Termunde
Midvale, Utah
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Printing suggestions?
Brian Termunde
Question for you all, I see topic that I would like to print and save for later reference. In the bad, old days of Yewhoo, I could selectively print the posts desired, and have all the header info showing the group, date poster and topic, no problem. With IO, I can still print, but with that info. I can create a doc file and do this, but I didn't know if there is a better way.
TIA! Take Care,
Brian R. Termunde
Midvale, Utah
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Re: Bangor & Aroostook 1927 Boxcar 61000 series (Reefer Colors)
Bill Welch
I thought so since they are brown. The Champ decal seems black or dark grey.
Bill Welch
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Re: Bangor & Aroostook 1927 Boxcar 61000 series (Reefer Colors)
ROGER HINMAN
Brown
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From: Bill Welch <fgexbill@...> To: main <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> Sent: Wed, Jul 4, 2018 5:06 pm Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Bangor & Aroostook 1927 Boxcar 61000 series (Reefer Colors) Very cool Roger. What colour is the Potato please?
Bill Welch
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Re: Bangor & Aroostook 1927 Boxcar 61000 series (Reefer Colors)
Bill Welch
Very cool Roger. What colour is the Potato please?
Bill Welch
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Re: Bangor & Aroostook 1927 Boxcar 61000 series (Reefer Colors)
ROGER HINMAN
Attached is from the Bangor & Aroostook 1950 Annual Report. Notice that Tim got the date wrong also, purchases were begun in 1950 and done in batches Stencil on car confirms this.
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From: Bob Chaparro <chiefbobbb@...> To: main <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> Sent: Wed, Jul 4, 2018 12:06 pm Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Bangor & Aroostook 1927 Boxcar 61000 series (Reefer Colors) The comment, "When BAR bought the used, wood sided MDT reefers, some of which were famously painted in red, white, and blue, in 1949-50..." caught my attention. I have been looking for a photo on one of these red-white-blue reefers for years.
Back in 2003 Tim Gilbert said, "The BAR did not buy their first reefer until 1951. The first series 338 strong in 1/1953, #6000-6999, were ex-MDT reefers and were painted yellow with black ends. The second series were the #7000-7856 which were built by Pacific Car & Foundry - 500 in 1951-52 and another 357 in 1953. These had yellow sides and ends. The #7000's were the ones rented to PFE during the summer - the off-season for Aroostook County spuds."
A lot of modelers falsely believe the PC&F steel-sheathed reefers used the red-white-blue paint scheme. Perhaps this is because some of the ex-MDT reefers were so painted, although others disagree about this.
Does anyone have a photo or photo source for the ex-MDT reefers painted red-white blue?
Thanks.
Bob Chaparro
Hemet, CA
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Re: Bangor & Aroostook 1927 Boxcar 61000 series (Reefer Colors)
richard glueck
Pictures of my 1/8th scale model for live steam. There are two pictures, I think one in color, at the very back of Jerry Angier's BAR history. I'll try to scan it for you. Dick Glueck
On Wednesday, July 4, 2018, 2:34:32 PM EDT, gary laakso <vasa0vasa@...> wrote:
A picture of one of the BAR reefers in the scheme Bill referenced is on page 159 of our own Roger Hinman’s book Merchants Despatch.
Gary Laakso Northwest of Mike Brock
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill Welch
The only photos I have ever seen of ex-MDT reefers are blue (lower half) & white w/a potato above the reporting marks. Champ did decals for this scheme.
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Re: Machinist blocks
Denny Anspach <danspachmd@...>
Machinist’s blocks made by an SP machinist as a part of his apprenticeship (and given to me just before his death) have been one of the most enduring and useful of hobby bench tools. They are square by definition with sharp edges, and often provide the precision benchtop anvil or clamping block that one needs so very much from time to time. To avoid marring, I use only brass or composition hammers.
Denny Denny S. Anspach MD Okoboji, IA
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Re: Bangor & Aroostook 1927 Boxcar 61000 series (Reefer Colors)
gary laakso
A picture of one of the BAR reefers in the scheme Bill referenced is on page 159 of our own Roger Hinman’s book Merchants Despatch.
Gary Laakso Northwest of Mike Brock
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill Welch
The only photos I have ever seen of ex-MDT reefers are blue (lower half) & white w/a potato above the reporting marks. Champ did decals for this scheme.
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Re: Bangor & Aroostook 1927 Boxcar 61000 series (Reefer Colors)
Bill Welch
The only photos I have ever seen of ex-MDT reefers are blue (lower half) & white w/a potato above the reporting marks. Champ did decals for this scheme.
Bill Welch
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Re: Bangor & Aroostook 1927 Boxcar 61000 series (Reefer Colors)
The comment, "When BAR bought the used, wood sided MDT reefers, some of which were famously painted in red, white, and blue, in 1949-50..." caught my attention. I have been looking for a photo on one of these red-white-blue reefers for years.
Back in 2003 Tim Gilbert said, "The BAR did not buy their first reefer until 1951. The first series 338 strong in 1/1953, #6000-6999, were ex-MDT reefers and were painted yellow with black ends. The second series were the #7000-7856 which were built by Pacific Car & Foundry - 500 in 1951-52 and another 357 in 1953. These had yellow sides and ends. The #7000's were the ones rented to PFE during the summer - the off-season for Aroostook County spuds."
A lot of modelers falsely believe the PC&F steel-sheathed reefers used the red-white-blue paint scheme. Perhaps this is because some of the ex-MDT reefers were so painted, although others disagree about this.
Does anyone have a photo or photo source for the ex-MDT reefers painted red-white blue?
Thanks.
Bob Chaparro
Hemet, CA
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Want to Buy Bowser H30 Grey Scheme w/Shadow Keystone
Bill Welch
Anyone have PRR H30 Shadow Keystone Gray w/Raised Roof Walk stock number: 41487; 41488; or 41489 . . .
they would like to sell me please? Contact off list at: fgexbill(at)tampabay.rr.com substituting the @ for (at) Thank you, Bill Welch
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Re: Bangor & Aroostook 1927 Boxcar 61000 series
Gene Green <genegreen1942@...>
M&StL used "Monogram." Gene Green
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Re: Bangor & Aroostook 1927 Boxcar 61000 series
richard glueck
It was a shield with a pine tree centered in the very base. A very classic logo that became hugely popular across the nation while Maine potatoes were still being promoted and shipped by rail. During the 1970's, the Bangor and Aroostook decided to use a new color scheme and re-brand the logo. The withering fortunes of the potato industry and the miserable exchange of freight cars with the Penn Central, and the rise of the independent trucking industry (smaller loads, direct delivery, more traffic, great wastage of fuel) caused the railroad to abandon the reefer fleet and scrap the cars en-mass. Hundreds could be found on sidings, waiting to be sold or scrapped. Today, you can still find many in farmer's fields or cut in half as storage containers. Richard Glueck Winterport, Maine
On Wednesday, July 4, 2018, 6:21:09 AM EDT, Donald B. Valentine via Groups.Io <riverman_vt@...> wrote:
Thanks for that thought, Ben, but the question now becomes is the item you refer to a pine tree or an arrowhead. I have always thought of it as the latter but will have to see if any of the "old heads" I knew on the BAR before it disappeared are still around and if any know. I suspect some will have one answer and some another. Cordially, Don Valentine
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Re: UTLX Steam Era Tank Cars
James Musgrove
Ted,
I just ordered your book.
Hope one day to see some Richmond Fredericksburg & Potomac RR cars.
Jim Musgrove
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From: Ted Culotta <speedwitchmedia@...> To: RealSTMFC <RealSTMFC@groups.io> Sent: Tue, Jul 3, 2018 9:46 pm Subject: [RealSTMFC] UTLX Steam Era Tank Cars We are thrilled to finally announce UTLX Steam Era Tank Cars!It's taken awhile, but we wanted to be sure that everything was perfect.
This definitive work on the largest tank car fleet of the Steam Era profiles the UTLX fleet from the designs of the turn of the century, including the groundbreaking V and X cars of the '00s through to the insulated and pressurized as well as welded cars of the early 1950s. Author Stephen Hile has painstakingly researched the diverse fleet comprised of UTLX proprietary cars and manufacturer designs acquired as new cars or through the purchases of existing fleets. The book includes over 250 photos, 11 full drawings, numerous detail drawings, and 11 tables of data. This book is must have for modelers, researchers, and historians. There is a pre-order discount available through July 10th. Please visit the Speedwitch Media site for more details... and please forward this to your friends! Thank you and we hope to see you at the St. Louis RPM in Collinsville, MO on July 20-21. Cheers, Ted Ted Culotta
Speedwitch Media
P.O. Box 392, Guilford, CT 06437
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Re: Bangor & Aroostook 1927 Boxcar 61000 series
Donald B. Valentine <riverman_vt@...>
Thanks for that thought, Ben, but the question now becomes is the item you refer to a pine tree or an arrowhead. I have always thought of it as the latter but will have to see if any of the "old heads" I knew on the BAR before it disappeared are still around and if any know. I suspect some will have one answer and some another. Cordially, Don Valentine
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UTLX Steam Era Tank Cars
Ted Culotta
We are thrilled to finally announce UTLX Steam Era Tank Cars!It's taken awhile, but we wanted to be sure that everything was perfect. Ted Culotta Speedwitch Media P.O. Box 392, Guilford, CT 06437
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