Date   

Re: ModelMaster/Floquil/Paasche paint bottle/cap size and nomenclature.

Tim O'Connor
 

I have this jar opener hanging next to my paint booth. It works well.
OXO made it - buy at any store kitchen department.

Tim

--
*Tim O'Connor*
*Sterling, Massachusetts*


Re: ModelMaster/Floquil/Paasche paint bottle/cap size and nomenclature.

Bill Welch
 

Denny, you did not like the jars and thier price from the link I sent you?

Bill Welch


Re: ModelMaster/Floquil/Paasche paint bottle/cap size and nomenclature.

anthony wagner
 

What works for me is to heat the cap with hot water in the kitchen sink and using  a pair of channel lock pliers for leverage gently twist the cap until it comes loose. The cap expands faster than the bottle thus loosens the seal. Just don't squeeze too hard or the cap will be permanently distorted. I have used this with Floquil before it disappeared and now with acrilyics. Also keeping the threads of the bottle and cap clean helps and whenever I open a bottle after shaking it I always wipe the rim clean. Works most of the time but occasionally the cap comes off but the seal remains stuck. Slicing along the bottle rim with an Xacto knife will work to loosen the seal. Finding replacement seals is almost impossible but by sticking the dry seal to clear plastic moving tape and then trimming the tape to the shape of the seal works with acrylics that are water based. Tony Wagner


On Sunday, November 4, 2018 2:57 PM, Denny Anspach <danspachmd@...> wrote:


As the result of previous posts on this list in the distant past, my most successful last resortl gambit for opening paint bottles is to invert the bottle, and with a dropper dribble a tiny bit of solvent in the trough between the sticking lid and bottle and let it work its magic for a few minutes.  It seems to work every time, but can on occasion be messy.  A strap wrench would seem to be the best, but….where can one obtain one that is reliably small enough to function well?

The paraffin paper idea gets my attention.

But, how can one identify by name and size the small bottles and caps (Model Master size) so that purchase can be made in some quantity pricing aside from the confiscatory pricing commonly available otherwise?  Like Nelson Moyer, I do recycle bottles, but at some price of additional messiness and time spent,  and eventual cap attrition.



Denny

Denny S. Anspach, MD
Sacramento, CA 95864






Re: ModelMaster/Floquil/Paasche paint bottle/cap size and nomenclature.

Denny Anspach <danspachmd@...>
 

As the result of previous posts on this list in the distant past, my most successful last resortl gambit for opening paint bottles is to invert the bottle, and with a dropper dribble a tiny bit of solvent in the trough between the sticking lid and bottle and let it work its magic for a few minutes. It seems to work every time, but can on occasion be messy. A strap wrench would seem to be the best, but….where can one obtain one that is reliably small enough to function well?

The paraffin paper idea gets my attention.

But, how can one identify by name and size the small bottles and caps (Model Master size) so that purchase can be made in some quantity pricing aside from the confiscatory pricing commonly available otherwise? Like Nelson Moyer, I do recycle bottles, but at some price of additional messiness and time spent, and eventual cap attrition.



Denny

Denny S. Anspach, MD
Sacramento, CA 95864


Re: NP 64109 52’ Flat Car

Paul Doggett
 

That’s a really nice kit I have built one and have another to build.

Paul Doggett England 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 


On 4 Nov 2018, at 20:11, Lester Breuer <rforailroad@...> wrote:

One less resin kit in the to build cabinet so another blog post.   I chose Speedwitch Media, resin kit K119, Northern Pacific 64109 , a 52’ straight sill steel wood deck flat car to build.  Additional photos and writeup are on my blog I started to share photos and writeup of modeling projects on my Minneapolis & Northland Railroad Company.   If you would like to take a look please do at the following:

 

http://mnrailroadcab100.blogspot.com/

Lester Breuer

 

Attachments:


NP 64109 52’ Flat Car

Lester Breuer
 

One less resin kit in the to build cabinet so another blog post.   I chose Speedwitch Media, resin kit K119, Northern Pacific 64109 , a 52’ straight sill steel wood deck flat car to build.  Additional photos and writeup are on my blog I started to share photos and writeup of modeling projects on my Minneapolis & Northland Railroad Company.   If you would like to take a look please do at the following:

 

http://mnrailroadcab100.blogspot.com/

Lester Breuer

 


Re: ORER request

Steve and Barb Hile
 

Thanks!!



From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Barry Bennett
Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2018 12:22 PM
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] ORER request

Hi Steve

Acording to my Westerfield 1945 ORER:-

96000 - 96999  4 cars 

97000 - 99999  1447 cars.

Barry Bennett
North Hykeham, UK.

On Sun, Nov 4, 2018 at 5:47 PM Steve and Barb Hile <shile@...> wrote:
Would anyone with an ORER from 1944 and/or 1945 be willing to scan the UTLX page(s) or could proved the numeric count (if one is shown) for series 96012 - 99999?
 
I am chasing a loose end.
 
Thanks in advance,
Steve Hile


Re: IM reefers for sale

Clark Propst
 

Would the person that asked to purchase these kits please contact me again?

A friend has 5 Intermountain reefer kits. They're decorated yellow and green with IC diamonds. He wants $10 each.

If interested contact me at cepropst@q.com and I'll forward your email, Thanks!
Clark Propst


Re: ORER request

Barry Bennett
 

Hi Steve

Acording to my Westerfield 1945 ORER:-

96000 - 96999  4 cars 

97000 - 99999  1447 cars.

Barry Bennett
North Hykeham, UK.

On Sun, Nov 4, 2018 at 5:47 PM Steve and Barb Hile <shile@...> wrote:
Would anyone with an ORER from 1944 and/or 1945 be willing to scan the UTLX page(s) or could proved the numeric count (if one is shown) for series 96012 - 99999?
 
I am chasing a loose end.
 
Thanks in advance,
Steve Hile


ORER request

Steve and Barb Hile
 

Would anyone with an ORER from 1944 and/or 1945 be willing to scan the UTLX page(s) or could proved the numeric count (if one is shown) for series 96012 - 99999?
 
I am chasing a loose end.
 
Thanks in advance,
Steve Hile


Re: ModelMaster/Floquil/Paasche paint bottle/cap size and nomenclature.

Pete C
 

Denny, Minuteman Scale Models sells both 1oz and 2oz bottles that are very well made and seal tightly.  The 1oz are $1.50 each...don’t remember the 2oz price as I have only needed the 1oz.

Pete

On Nov 4, 2018, at 6:42 AM, Bill Welch <fgexbill@...> wrote:

[Edited Message Follows]

Denny, attached is one of the handouts I shared with this group the year I did presentation and Demo about spraying Acrylic paint. Go to Page 3 and hit the links for "CPS" jars and caps. I ordered 7-8 dozen jars and caps plus 12 spare caps.

Bill Welch
<Airbrush Links PDF.pdf>


Re: ModelMaster/Floquil/Paasche paint bottle/cap size and nomenclature.

Nelson Moyer
 

I've use waxed paper on Floquil bottles and noticed that the toluene and xylene in the original Floquil formulation dissolved the wax. I have also used Saran Wrap on Floquil bottles with no noticeable effect, though it's harder to handle than waxed paper. Some have advised to put a light film of Vaseline on the threads, and store Floquil bottles upside down so the pigment helps seal the cap. I tried that method, but found it messy, so I went to waxed paper or Saran Wrap. When I worked in labs, I used Parafilm to temporarily seal beakers, flasks and bottles, but I don't remember using it under bottle caps for bottles holding strong organic solvents. Lab grade reagent bottles usually have precision threads and decent gaskets in the caps, e.g. Neoprene, Teflon, or similar material that's inert to whatever you're storing. I wonder to what extent lacquers like Model Master or the acetone in Tru Color would attack Parafilm, particularly if bottles were shaken before use. I always changed the waxed paper every time I used the paint, but long term exposure to solvent vapors did dissolve the wax, though I could never discern any negative effect on the paint. I've also used waxed paper on Poly Scale bottles without any problems. I don't use it on plastic bottles, e.g. ModelFlex or Tru Color, because the caps can be screwed down tightly enough to seal completely. However caution is indicated, as I once screwed on a Tru Color cap down so tightly that I broke the cap. Fortunately, I had cleaned and saved some empty bottles, so a replacement cap was available. I appreciate being reminded about Parafilm, and I'll check the spec sheet and MSDS to see if they address susceptibility for long term storage of organic solvents.

Nelson Moyer

-----Original Message-----
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rufus Cone
Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2018 12:30 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] ModelMaster/Floquil/Paasche paint bottle/cap size and nomenclature.

Jake Schaible wrote:

Ralph's mention of waxed paper reminded me that in chem lab we used
tons of Parafilm M to seal bottles.
This is a good suggestion.

Chemists often wrap the outside of bottle caps with parafilm to seal the
joint with the bottle.  For this, you use the 2" width, which is sold in
250' lengths.  Shipping charges seem high on ebay or Amazon, so I
suggest looking at the chem stores of a local college or university
where you can pick it up.  Or if you are in a city, there are probably
chemical or scientific supply stores that would have it in stock.

It stretches and conforms to the outer surface of the bottle and cap as
you wrap it.

One roll would be a long term supply for model work.

--
Rufus Cone
Bozeman, MT


Re: ModelMaster/Floquil/Paasche paint bottle/cap size and nomenclature.

Bill Welch
 
Edited

Denny, attached is one of the handouts I shared with this group the year I did presentation and Demo about spraying Acrylic paint. Go to Page 3 and hit the links for "CPS" jars and caps. I ordered 7-8 dozen jars and caps plus 12 spare caps.

Bill Welch


Re: ModelMaster/Floquil/Paasche paint bottle/cap size and nomenclature.

Tim O'Connor
 

Denny

The highest quality bottles I've found are sold by Tamiya (although they're undoubtedly
made by someone else). The caps (polyethylene?) are absolutely air tight and self sealing.

They make larger ones (approx 2 oz) with measure markings. And you can write the contents
on a permanent "label" on the side.

They're not cheap though so I use the large ones for fluids like thinners and chemicals
that I refill as needed.

Tim O'



Would listers remind me once again for  what bottles and caps what I look for when hunting for spare ½, ¾, 1.0 oz paint bottles.  I use and reuse these bottles (particularly the smaller sizes, but attrition is taking its toll, and too many caps cannot be reused.  Just what is the standard nomenclature for the cap and neck size/thread ?

I have found that the caps are getting commonly ruined and will not provide air tight closure after usage by the common lever bottle openers most commonly available at MicroMark. The tiny dents put in the knurled part of the cap allow just snout air leakage to eventually kill the bottle contents (and also leak all over the place when bottle shaken).

Denny S. Anspach, MD

--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: ModelMaster/Floquil/Paasche paint bottle/cap size and nomenclature.

Rufus Cone
 

Jake Schaible wrote:

Ralph's mention of waxed paper reminded me that in chem lab we used tons of Parafilm M to seal bottles.
This is a good suggestion.

Chemists often wrap the outside of bottle caps with parafilm to seal the joint with the bottle.  For this, you use the 2" width, which is sold in 250' lengths.  Shipping charges seem high on ebay or Amazon, so I suggest looking at the chem stores of a local college or university where you can pick it up.  Or if you are in a city, there are probably chemical or scientific supply stores that would have it in stock.

It stretches and conforms to the outer surface of the bottle and cap as you wrap it.

One roll would be a long term supply for model work.

--
Rufus Cone
Bozeman, MT


Re: ModelMaster/Floquil/Paasche paint bottle/cap size and nomenclature.

Jake Schaible
 

Ralph's mention of waxed paper reminded me that in chem lab we used tons of Parafilm M to seal bottles.  Micromark sells it as a paint mask, but we used it primarily to seal flasks and the like - both for storage as well as reactions.  When gently pulled over a glass opening, forms a great thin air tight gasket that will not dry out and is highly inert to even harsh organic solvents.  

Saw on fleabay, someone is selling 4" x 1 meter sections cheap ... which will allow you to seal a couple hundred bottles, even if the lid is not perfect.  Far easier and less loss than transferring paint ...

https://www.ebay.com/itm/271971948829


Re: ModelMaster/Floquil/Paasche paint bottle/cap size and nomenclature.

gary laakso
 

Bill Welch suggested a company that made bottles and caps about 2 years ago. I checked my supplies of bottles and caps and none had a label.

Gary Laakso
Northwest of Mike Brock

-----Original Message-----
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Denny Anspach
Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2018 8:26 PM
To: RealSteamEraFreightCarList <RealSTMFC@groups.io>
Subject: [RealSTMFC] ModelMaster/Floquil/Paasche paint bottle/cap size and nomenclature.

Would listers remind me once again for what bottles and caps what I look for when hunting for spare ½, ¾, 1.0 oz paint bottles. I use and reuse these bottles (particularly the smaller sizes, but attrition is taking its toll, and too many caps cannot be reused. Just what is the standard nomenclature for the cap and neck size/‘thread” ?

I have found that the caps are getting commonly ruined and will not provide air tight closure after usage by the common lever bottle openers most commonly available at MicroMark. The tiny dents put in the knurled part of the cap allow just snout air leakage to eventually kill the bottle contents (and also leak all over the place when bottle shaken).

Denny

Denny S. Anspach, MD
Sacramento, CA 95864


Re: Wabash Custom Decals

Allen Rueter
 

Doug,
  Mark is selling the business .

-- Allen Rueter
StLouis MO


On Saturday, November 3, 2018, 9:35:58 PM CDT, Douglas Harding <doug.harding@...> wrote:


I recently heard (may have been at Chicagoland) that Mark Vaughn was calling an end to Wabash Decals. I have not confirmed this as I have not had any communication with Mark directly. I do know that Mark has been traveling out the country this past month, which may explain why you have not heard from him. He just returned home the last week. I suspect he is working on a backlog of messages.

 

Doug  Harding

www.iowacentralrr.org

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bob Christensen via Groups.Io
Sent: Saturday, November 3, 2018 5:49 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Wabash Custom Decals

 

I hope someone can give me information on Wabash Custom Decals.  I ordered some over a month ago but haven't heard anything from them and get no response to emails and phone calls.
Thanks,
Bob Christensen


Re: Wabash Custom Decals

Douglas Harding
 

I recently heard (may have been at Chicagoland) that Mark Vaughn was calling an end to Wabash Decals. I have not confirmed this as I have not had any communication with Mark directly. I do know that Mark has been traveling out the country this past month, which may explain why you have not heard from him. He just returned home the last week. I suspect he is working on a backlog of messages.

 

Doug  Harding

www.iowacentralrr.org

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bob Christensen via Groups.Io
Sent: Saturday, November 3, 2018 5:49 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Wabash Custom Decals

 

I hope someone can give me information on Wabash Custom Decals.  I ordered some over a month ago but haven't heard anything from them and get no response to emails and phone calls.
Thanks,
Bob Christensen


Re: ModelMaster/Floquil/Paasche paint bottle/cap size and nomenclature.

Jon Miller <atsfus@...>
 

Denny,

Would listers remind me once again for  what bottles and caps what I look for when hunting for spare ½, ¾, 1.0 oz paint bottles. 

    Art supply stores, on the net, have various bottles but never tried them. 

-- 
Jon Miller
For me time stopped in 1941
Digitrax  Chief/Zephyr systems, JMRI User
SPROG User
NMRA Life member #2623
Member SFRH&MS

26561 - 26580 of 186221