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Re: Photo: PFE Reefers

David Soderblom
 

A very modelable scene, with the tight curve and the curved add-on to the loading platform, all bounded by buildings.



David Soderblom
Baltimore MD USA
drs@..., 410-338-4543





Re: Photo: T&NO Flat Car With Converter Load

Tony Thompson
 

Bob Chaparro wrote:

Photo: T&NO Flat Car With Converter Load
This is link to a photo from the collection of the University of Utah:
The photo is dated 1917.
Caption: "Image shows a piece of equipment for the American Foundry and Machine Company, loaded on a flatbed railroad car."
Does anyone know what a "converter" is?

    It's a copper converter, in which copper "matte" (molten copper sulfides and oxides) is subjected to air blast through the melt, oxidizing the sulfur to SO2 and removing it from the mixture. (In the early days, this toxic gas was simply spewed out of tall smokestacks, where it was free to react with moisture to make sulfuric acid, but obvious objections to that result led to the SO2 being captured to get it out of the waste stream, and soon it was being recovered, and sulfuric acid became a valuable by-product of the refining.)
     There was a great deal of copper produced in Utah, and at the 150th Gold Spike re-enactment, Utah offered a copper spike, as what they felt should have been their original contribution to that event.

Tony Thompson



Re: Photo: T&NO Flat Car With Converter Load

Dave Parker
 

A little Googling can go a long way.  If you search for "American Foundry and Machine" (with quotation marks), you get several hits, including:

http://utahrails.net/industries/iron-steel-foundry-machine.php

Apparently the company was renamed in 1918, just after this photo.

--
Dave Parker
Swall Meadows, CA

Re: IC Boxcar 16172 upgrade

WILLIAM PARDIE
 



GREAT ADDITION LES:

  I have done these on Ann SpP and UP car.  They ar a nice adddition;n.

Bill


After posting the build of Illinois Central boxcar 16172 on my blog, the hooks on the sill of a CB&Q boxcar were discussed here on STMFC.  The IC cars in the series I built in photos show these same hooks which were for hanging “Keeley Cans” so back to the modeling desk to add this neat detail to the IC boxcars 16172.  I bent the hooks from Tichy #1101 .010” diameter phosphor bronze wire using a Xuron 483 wire bending plier.  I did not paint them so they would show better in the attached photos.
Lester Breuer <11F8BF1C-B01C-4410-8132-8810CEED65F5.jpeg><135CECE4-15CA-4C02-8703-673AA249071D.jpeg>

Re: Photo: T&NO Flat Car With Converter Load

Gary Roe
 

The stencil is very reminiscent of the American Car and Foundry arch.

gary roe
quincy, illinois




On Wednesday, December 4, 2019, 12:19:07 PM CST, mopacfirst <ron.merrick@...> wrote:


It's probably not a rotating piece of equipment, given the substantial support frame that this item is securely riveted to.  Likely the "converter" is a larger piece of equipment that this is a component of.

I didn't immediately find a listing for American Foundry and Machine.  The American Machine and Foundry company, later a maker of bowling alley equipment under the name AMF, was in existence at this time in New Jersey / Brooklyn but they don't appear to have been making equipment like this.

The stencil is not clearly readable in this scan.

Ron Merrick

Re: Photo: T&NO Flat Car With Converter Load

mopacfirst
 

It's probably not a rotating piece of equipment, given the substantial support frame that this item is securely riveted to.  Likely the "converter" is a larger piece of equipment that this is a component of.

I didn't immediately find a listing for American Foundry and Machine.  The American Machine and Foundry company, later a maker of bowling alley equipment under the name AMF, was in existence at this time in New Jersey / Brooklyn but they don't appear to have been making equipment like this.

The stencil is not clearly readable in this scan.

Ron Merrick

Photo: UP Gondola 27379

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: UP Gondola 27379

This is link to a 1921 photo from the collection of the University of Utah:

https://collections.lib.utah.edu/ark:/87278/s6862v05

Caption: "Image shows a Union Pacific car loaded with coal from the Lion Coal Company, stopped in Blairtown, Wyoming."

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA

Photo: T&NO Flat Car With Converter Load

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: T&NO Flat Car With Converter Load

This is link to a photo from the collection of the University of Utah:

https://collections.lib.utah.edu/ark:/87278/s6h99hfq

The photo is dated 1917.

Caption: "Image shows a piece of equipment for the American Foundry and Machine Company, loaded on a flatbed railroad car."

Does anyone know what a "converter" is?

Thanks.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA

IC Boxcar 16172 upgrade

Lester Breuer
 

After posting the build of Illinois Central boxcar 16172 on my blog, the hooks on the sill of a CB&Q boxcar were discussed here on STMFC.  The IC cars in the series I built in photos show these same hooks which were for hanging “Keeley Cans” so back to the modeling desk to add this neat detail to the IC boxcars 16172.  I bent the hooks from Tichy #1101 .010” diameter phosphor bronze wire using a Xuron 483 wire bending plier.  I did not paint them so they would show better in the attached photos.
Lester Breuer

MDT orange ?

mopacfirst
 

Related to a couple of the previous posts --

From a colorblind guy with particular difficulty with reds, oranges and pinks.  Could I have a suggestion on the MDT orange as used on steel cars in the 50s and later, after the end of the white scheme?  How close is it to PFE orange / Daylight orange?

I once mixed a color with Floquil, but a) I've lost all track of those color mixes, b) Floquil mixes no longer matter anyway.

Ron Merrick

SNT update

Greg Martin
 

This year's SHAKE N TAKE seminar is the Santa Fe's BX-34 40-foot single door boxcar as presented by our own John Barry.

This year's car gets back the heart of SHAKE N TAKE being simplicity, as Richard reminds me, "keep it simple enough that it doesn't sit on the shelf and never gets build."

John has the underframe completed and he has worked diligently on the decal work for the kit. Intermountain is supplying the kits again this year., and we thanks them for their sponsorship.

Let me remind you that you have to be present to be considered and you must be willing to build the kit or return it to me to be redistributed to someone willing to build the kit. Be considerate before you commit.

Let me remind you everyone that there a total of 36 slots, 10 reserved for the registration desk and 25 online slots. There will be a reserved list and likely if there is enough interest as in the past we will release aftermarket parts.

Greg Martin

  1. Fenton Wells
  2. Monte Switzer
  3. Mike Smeltzer
  4. Ed Shoben
  5. Bruce Smith
  6. Richard Townsend
  7. Dr J Brent Greer
  8. Roger Hinman
  9. Craig Zeni
  10. Tom Sinks
  11. Mark Kapka
  12. Paul Bizier
  13. Steve Hile
  14. TJ Stranton
  15. Bill Raymond
  16. John Cantlay
  17. Bill Darnaby
  18. George Corral
  19. Steve Orth
  20. Schuyler Larrabee
  21. Jim Singer 
  22. Kevin von der Lippe
  23. Henry Horn
  24. Tony Thompson
  25. Mike Brock
  26. Mike Skibbe
Reserve list
  1. Alex Schneider
  2. Chuck Davis
  3.  

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Hey Boss,


Somehow I got deleted from this group in late May. I guess someone didn't like me. Jail is a lonely place.

Greg Martin 

Re: NPDX 60235 circa 1924

Greg Martin
 

Best part of this photo is the shades of the boards, my minds eye converts them to color. Great photo.

Greg Martin



-----Original Message-----
From: Dennis Storzek <destorzek@...>
To: main <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Sent: Mon, Dec 2, 2019 12:49 pm
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] NPDX 60235 circa 1924

On Mon, Dec 2, 2019 at 05:11 AM, Brian Rochon wrote:
http://lists.railfan.net/erielackphoto.cgi?erielack-12-02-19/X3418.jpg
Interesting car. I'm away from my reference material; could someone check if it is a nominal 36' car, please? I note the underframe, end sills, and striker casting / drawbar carrier are identical to the NYC designed items on the car that was the prototype for the Accurail 36' boxcar, in fact, the car could be kitbashed from our wood end 36' boxcar and our wood reefer sides. I know the NKP had identical boxcars to the NYC version, likely ordered by NYC for the Lake Erie & Western before they sold that road to the NKP. It would appear that these cars have the same origin, but I was unaware that the NYC had a reefer version of these cars.

Dennis Storzek

--
Hey Boss,


Somehow I got deleted from this group in late May. I guess someone didn't like me. Jail is a lonely place.

Greg Martin 

Re: Missing Photo Collection

Bill Welch
 

Is this the site you are thinking of Bill?
https://www.lakestatesarchive.org/Ed-Wilkommen-Collection/Freight-Cars/

Bill Welch

Re: Photo: MDT 145474

Dave Parker
 

Claus: 

The reporting marks cars in that series were changed from LS&M to MDT in 1923 -- thus the patch job.  Note they were also rebuilt as per the stencil in the photo.  AFAIK, the most obvious feature of the rebuild was the change in door dimensions -- from short and squat with four hinges per side, to what you see in the photo.  Based on the ORERs, this conversion was MOL complete across the fleet of pre-war MDT reefers by about 1926.

--
Dave Parker
Swall Meadows, CA

Re: Photo: PFE Reefers

Dick Harley
 

That photo also illustrates the practice of having 5 grab irons on the side and end on early-built R-30-12 and R-30-13 bodies, while later bodies had 6 grab irons at the same location (car at left).


Cheers,
Dick Harley
Laguna Beach,  CA

Missing Photo Collection

WILLIAM PARDIE
 


Yesterday an email came in consisting of a very large collection of both freight and passenger car photos.While very excitingly going through this collection sudenly Pooof they disappeared from my phone not to be found in Trash or any other area.  This also wass not on my desktop computor when I checked.

It would be greatly appreciated if someone could forward this e-mail.. I would also like to know if these photos are for sale or if they can be copied from the e-mail.

Thanks for any help:

Bill Pardie

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Re: Photo: MDT 145474

Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 


Hi Bob,
 
Thanks for all these great links you have been sending.
 
I notice the letters "M.D.T." seem to have been patch painted on, perhaps over some other letters that might have been there previously. This can be discerned on both the side and end reporting marks.
 
Claus Schlund
 
 

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Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2019 1:37 PM
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Photo: MDT 145474

Photo: MDT 145474

This is link to a circa 1924 photo from the Erie Railfan site:

http://lists.railfan.net/erielackphoto.cgi?erielack-12-01-19/X3411.jpg

Photo taken in Jersey City, NJ, possibly in 1924.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA

Re: Photo: PFE Reefers

lrkdbn
 

Actually, for me a very remarkable photo-the car on the right is one of the R-30-2's rebuilt with a new style R-30-13 body on the old Harriman underframe. I have been looking for one like this for YEARS!!!
Thank You!!!
Larry King

Photo: MDT 145474

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: MDT 145474

This is link to a circa 1924 photo from the Erie Railfan site:

http://lists.railfan.net/erielackphoto.cgi?erielack-12-01-19/X3411.jpg

Photo taken in Jersey City, NJ, possibly in 1924.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA

Photo: PFE Reefers

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: PFE Reefers

This is link to a 1928 photo from the collection of the University of Utah:

https://collections.lib.utah.edu/ark:/87278/s6xd39nd

Not a remarkable or good quality photo but it does show the PFE practice at the time of putting the SP herald on the side with the B end to the right and the UP herald on the side with the B end to the left.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA