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Re: Photo: Interstate Gondola 10144 (1930)

CJ Riley
 


Looks a bit like a load of puppies but that seems unlikely!



Re: Photo: Interstate Gondola 10144 (1930)

Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 


Hi George and List Members,
 
Thanks George, sounds plausible to me!
 
Claus Schlund
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2021 6:05 PM
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: Interstate Gondola 10144 (1930)

I should have added, it would seem to me, Westmoreland Coal acquired the photos, not the gons.

George Courtney


New Lee Turner Model

Gene Deimling
 

https://myp48.wordpress.com/2021/04/16/modeling-lee-turner-on-rock-island-b-2-boxcars/

I just posted a short story on a car from Lee Turner’s personal collection.
Please take a look. 
Gene



Re: Photo: Lehigh Valley Hopper 17431

George Courtney
 

Just a note, one of Ed Wolfe's book on the Interstate Railroad has a photo taken in the early1960's, iirc, showing a Lehigh Valley twin hopper being re-railed at an Interstate Coal Mine in southwest Virginia.  Not over Sherman Pass, but out of LV's territory.

George Courtney


Re: Photos: GATX/DuPont Tank Car 63321 (Circa 1940s)

Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 


Hi Bob and List Members,
 
If you zoom way, way in there, you can read that the placard sez
 
KEEP LIGHTS AND FIRES AWAY
DANGEROUS
MOTOR FUEL ANTIKNOCK COMPOUND
HANDLE CAREFULLY
 
 
 
Also, once again zomming way, way in there, you can see a black tank car with possible reporting marks DOWX 3814 (something of a guess on my part)
 
 
Claus Schlund
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2021 12:44 PM
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Photos: GATX/DuPont Tank Car 63321 (Circa 1940s)

Photos: GATX/DuPont Tank Car 63321 (Circa 1940s)

Photos from the Hagley Digital Archives:

https://digital.hagley.org/1972341_3685

https://digital.hagley.org/1972341_3686

Scroll on the photos to enlarge them.

Good shot of placard.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: Photo: Interstate Gondola 10144 (1930)

George Courtney
 

I should have added, it would seem to me, Westmoreland Coal acquired the photos, not the gons.

George Courtney


Re: Photo: Interstate Gondola 10144 (1930)

George Courtney
 

I only know that Westmoreland Coal Company bought a Southern Railway yard to collect coal from hoppers off the Southern and the former Interstate after Southern bought the Interstate.  If Westmoreland bought any of the older Virginia Coal and Iron coal mines I'm not sure.  I would have thought Westmoreland came to this area after these gondolas were no longer in use.
Side note.  I once read that on Saluda's famous Saluda Grade, someone wrote most around World War I era were problems descending the grade were with Interstate cars.  They did not mention hoppers or gons.

George Courtney


Re: Photo: Interstate Gondola 10144 (1930)

Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 


Hi Bob, Schuyler, and List Members,
 
Upon checking thru my records, it appears I (and potentially "we" as a list... ) have run into this image before. My notes indicate INT 10144 is a 36ft drop bottom gon and is part of series 10000-10199 and is ex-DRGW. I did NOT make any record of where I learned this info, so I offer this info as 'source unknown' and worth what you paid me for it.
 
Zooming in on the image, the car is stencilled as BUILT NEW 1-1913
 
Further, I will point out that the metadata text at the page indicates the following additional info which I have not seen before...
 
 
Former owner: Westmoreland Coal Company
Originator: Interstate Railroad Company
 
 
Anyone know how it is that Westmoreland Coal Company fits into this equation?
 
Claus Schlund
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2021 5:35 PM
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: Interstate Gondola 10144 (1930)

Hi Schuyler and List Members,
 
The info at the web page sez the title for the photo is "Coke loaded in Interstate Railroad cars". So clearly someone thought it was coke.
 
While it could be coke, the shape of the chunks that make up the load get me thinking in terms of it being charcoal.
 
Claus Schlund
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2021 5:02 PM
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: Interstate Gondola 10144 (1930)

Agreed the original image was dark, thanks for prepping it so we can see.  I’ve seen archbar trucks like that before.

 

But what I’m curious about is what IS that load?

 

Schuyler

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Garth Groff and Sally Sanford
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2021 3:59 PM
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: Interstate Gondola 10144 (1930)

 

Bob and Friends,

 

The Interstate image was super dark, and I was curious about the trucks. So I took a screenshot and did some simple Photoshop manipulation, which is presented in the attached image.

 

The trucks are archbar, but a type I can't remember ever seeing. The lower chord dips down considerably below the springs.

 

Yours Aye,

 

 

Garth Groff  🦆

 

 

 

On Fri, Apr 16, 2021 at 12:43 PM Bob Chaparro via groups.io <chiefbobbb=verizon.net@groups.io> wrote:

Photo: Interstate Gondola 10144 (1930)

A photo from the Hagley Digital Archives:

https://digital.hagley.org/1993233_G2_S2_010_07_017

Scroll on the photo to enlarge it.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: Photo: Interstate Gondola 10144 (1930)

Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 


Hi Schuyler and List Members,
 
The info at the web page sez the title for the photo is "Coke loaded in Interstate Railroad cars". So clearly someone thought it was coke.
 
While it could be coke, the shape of the chunks that make up the load get me thinking in terms of it being charcoal.
 
Claus Schlund
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2021 5:02 PM
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: Interstate Gondola 10144 (1930)

Agreed the original image was dark, thanks for prepping it so we can see.  I’ve seen archbar trucks like that before.

 

But what I’m curious about is what IS that load?

 

Schuyler

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Garth Groff and Sally Sanford
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2021 3:59 PM
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: Interstate Gondola 10144 (1930)

 

Bob and Friends,

 

The Interstate image was super dark, and I was curious about the trucks. So I took a screenshot and did some simple Photoshop manipulation, which is presented in the attached image.

 

The trucks are archbar, but a type I can't remember ever seeing. The lower chord dips down considerably below the springs.

 

Yours Aye,

 

 

Garth Groff  🦆

 

 

 

On Fri, Apr 16, 2021 at 12:43 PM Bob Chaparro via groups.io <chiefbobbb=verizon.net@groups.io> wrote:

Photo: Interstate Gondola 10144 (1930)

A photo from the Hagley Digital Archives:

https://digital.hagley.org/1993233_G2_S2_010_07_017

Scroll on the photo to enlarge it.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: Photo: Interstate Gondola 10144 (1930)

Schuyler Larrabee
 

Agreed the original image was dark, thanks for prepping it so we can see.  I’ve seen archbar trucks like that before.

 

But what I’m curious about is what IS that load?

 

Schuyler

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Garth Groff and Sally Sanford
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2021 3:59 PM
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: Interstate Gondola 10144 (1930)

 

Bob and Friends,

 

The Interstate image was super dark, and I was curious about the trucks. So I took a screenshot and did some simple Photoshop manipulation, which is presented in the attached image.

 

The trucks are archbar, but a type I can't remember ever seeing. The lower chord dips down considerably below the springs.

 

Yours Aye,

 

 

Garth Groff  🦆

 

 

 

On Fri, Apr 16, 2021 at 12:43 PM Bob Chaparro via groups.io <chiefbobbb=verizon.net@groups.io> wrote:

Photo: Interstate Gondola 10144 (1930)

A photo from the Hagley Digital Archives:

https://digital.hagley.org/1993233_G2_S2_010_07_017

Scroll on the photo to enlarge it.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: Airbrush Basics for STMFC Modelers

Scott H. Haycock
 

Paul,
good find!
 
The video about Masking Techniques should also be watched- especially by diesel painters.

Scott Haycock
Modeling Tarheel country in the Land of Enchantm
ent

On 04/16/2021 2:27 PM Paul Krueger <kruegerp12@...> wrote:
 
 
Thanks for the tip, Scott.

It looks like he has a list of his videos on his website that makes it easy to find specific topics instead of relying on the YouTube interface.

https://paulbudzik.com/scale-model-workshop-videos/scale-model-workshop-videos.html

Paul Krueger
Seattle, WA


Re: Airbrush Basics for STMFC Modelers

Paul Krueger
 

Thanks for the tip, Scott.

It looks like he has a list of his videos on his website that makes it easy to find specific topics instead of relying on the YouTube interface.

https://paulbudzik.com/scale-model-workshop-videos/scale-model-workshop-videos.html

Paul Krueger
Seattle, WA


Re: Photo: Interstate Gondola 10144 (1930)

Garth Groff and Sally Sanford <mallardlodge1000@...>
 

Bob and Friends,

The Interstate image was super dark, and I was curious about the trucks. So I took a screenshot and did some simple Photoshop manipulation, which is presented in the attached image.

The trucks are archbar, but a type I can't remember ever seeing. The lower chord dips down considerably below the springs.

Yours Aye,


Garth Groff  🦆



On Fri, Apr 16, 2021 at 12:43 PM Bob Chaparro via groups.io <chiefbobbb=verizon.net@groups.io> wrote:

Photo: Interstate Gondola 10144 (1930)

A photo from the Hagley Digital Archives:

https://digital.hagley.org/1993233_G2_S2_010_07_017

Scroll on the photo to enlarge it.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: Photos: GATX/DuPont Tank Car 63321 (Circa 1940s)

Bob Chaparro
 

Additional photo:

https://digital.hagley.org/1972341_3687

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: Airbrush Basics for STMFC Modelers

John Sykes III
 

Thanks, Scott.  That is the kind of information we need.

-- John


Re: Airbrush Basics for STMFC Modelers

Scott H. Haycock
 

Folks,
 
I've found "The Scale Model Workshop" channel on YouTube  to be a good source for many modeling techniques, including several videos about airbrushes and their use. The host, Paul Budzik is an outstanding modeler who has been sharing tips for years. While he is not specifically a model railroader,  his videos are more about techniques than how-to-build specific models.

Scott Haycock
Modeling Tarheel country in the Land of Enchantm
ent

On 04/16/2021 11:21 AM John Sykes III via groups.io <johnsykesiii@...> wrote:
 
 
I just finished looking at a bunch of YouTube "experts" talking about airbrush basics, since I just bought my first Paasche TGX-Vision airbrush (should be delivered today).  What I realized is that about 1 out of 5 really knew what they were talking about (some, I don't think ever picked-up an airbrush before).  If you have never used an airbrush before, beware of these so-called YouTube experts.  I have been using airbrushes for about 35 years now, and don't consider myself to be an expert, but I am able to pick out misinformation quite easily.  If you are new to the hobby, get someone you know and have seen their work to teach you the basics of using an airbrush.  Otherwise, ruined models may result.  For example, I have always used syphon feed airbrushes (Paasche VL or VLS) and the Vision is a top feed, so I was looking for suggestions on how to handle the difference.  One Aussie YouTuber really seemed to know what he was talking about (even though he is an artist, not a modeler).  I now know that the paint will need to be thinned differently and less air pressure is needed for the top feed brush.  Since we all model railroad equipment that is often only available as kits (and often expensive resin), we are all probably using or should be using airbrushes,  But for the newbie, there is a lot of bad information out there.  If anyone knows of specific YouTubers that cover airbrushing models (preferably model trains) well, let us know, so we can watch.


Airbrush Basics for STMFC Modelers

John Sykes III
 

I just finished looking at a bunch of YouTube "experts" talking about airbrush basics, since I just bought my first Paasche TGX-Vision airbrush (should be delivered today).  What I realized is that about 1 out of 5 really knew what they were talking about (some, I don't think ever picked-up an airbrush before).  If you have never used an airbrush before, beware of these so-called YouTube experts.  I have been using airbrushes for about 35 years now, and don't consider myself to be an expert, but I am able to pick out misinformation quite easily.  If you are new to the hobby, get someone you know and have seen their work to teach you the basics of using an airbrush.  Otherwise, ruined models may result.  For example, I have always used syphon feed airbrushes (Paasche VL or VLS) and the Vision is a top feed, so I was looking for suggestions on how to handle the difference.  One Aussie YouTuber really seemed to know what he was talking about (even though he is an artist, not a modeler).  I now know that the paint will need to be thinned differently and less air pressure is needed for the top feed brush.  Since we all model railroad equipment that is often only available as kits (and often expensive resin), we are all probably using or should be using airbrushes,  But for the newbie, there is a lot of bad information out there.  If anyone knows of specific YouTubers that cover airbrushing models (preferably model trains) well, let us know, so we can watch.


Photo: PRR Gondola 353016 With Containers (1931)

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: PRR Gondola 353016 With Containers (1931)

A photo from the Hagley Digital Archives:

https://digital.hagley.org/PRR_09323

Click on the photo to enlarge it.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Photos: GATX/DuPont Tank Car 63321 (Circa 1940s)

Bob Chaparro
 

Photos: GATX/DuPont Tank Car 63321 (Circa 1940s)

Photos from the Hagley Digital Archives:

https://digital.hagley.org/1972341_3685

https://digital.hagley.org/1972341_3686

Scroll on the photos to enlarge them.

Good shot of placard.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Photo: Interstate Gondola 10144 (1930)

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: Interstate Gondola 10144 (1930)

A photo from the Hagley Digital Archives:

https://digital.hagley.org/1993233_G2_S2_010_07_017

Scroll on the photo to enlarge it.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA

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