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Re: Various Freight Houses (Jib Crane)

Tim O'Connor
 


There was an old jib crane identical to the Alexander model in
Westfield, Massachusetts well into the late 1990's. I haven't been
back so I don't know if it's still there.

Tim O'Connor




On 8/13/2017 10:14 AM, thecitrusbelt@... [STMFC] wrote:

Nice image of a jib crane in this particular link:

Close to the old Alexander model. Don't know if it's still made.

-- 
Jon Miller


Re: AAR Car Type Codes

Ian Cranstone
 

On 2017-08-13, at 4:38 PM, Al Kresse water.kresse@... [STMFC] wrote:

 
I know this is stretching the era limits for the group, but when did the A.A.R. add A.A.R. Car Type Codes like A220, A400, B220, etc.  to FC ORER's in addition to their mechanical designations XAP, etc.?

These were listed for many years in the back of the ORER... the earliest listing I could find was in the October 1966 issue.

Ian Cranstone
Osgoode, Ontario, Canada



Re: ATSF Tk-N Tk-O tank car models

Tim O'Connor
 


Charlie, I agree, which is why I wanted to bring it to this group's
attention! I also observe that NONE of the offered paint jobs represents
the delivery schemes! Other people have pointed out that American Limited's
previous freight car, a modern covered hopper, is TWO FEET shorter than it
should have been!

As I said, caveat emptor. Hopefully they will LISTEN to the EXPERTS. Otherwise
it's another $50 freight car boat anchor.

Tim O'Connor



There are two major things wrong with their ad. First the side running boards WERE NOT DIAMOND PLATE steel but open grid steel the same as the dome platforms. Second the Tk-O is the same as the Tk-N and not the TK-M. I have sent the corrections to San Juan Car Co. and they said samples should arrive shortly and they think everything will be OK, otherwise we will have another bad model.
Charlie Slater

Bakersfield, Ca.
 


Announcement pages 1 & 2 uploaded

https://www.flickr.com/photos/timboconnor/36112470400/

Delivery is 15 MONTHS or more, but reservations end in ONE MONTH

Caveat emptor




Tim,

I do not see these on the American Limited web site. Do you have any additional information?

Thanks & Cheers,
Bill Keene
Irvine, CA




American Limited has announced HO scale tank car models! Built in
the late 1940's with steel grid walkways and open grid dome platforms.

Too bad they're not SP tank cars. :-(

But they are the first 16,000 gallon plastic tank car models in HO scale
and a number of railroads had cars of this size. Major kitbash fodder if
nothing else. :-)

Tim O'Connor


Re: NP 38668-38759

Tim O'Connor
 


I think the cars Schuyler was asking about were rebuilt ex-ERIE box cars.
The NP bought bunches of second hand single door steel box cars and rebuilt
them as double door cars - but as Matt Herson pointed out, it was post-1960.

Tim O'Connor



Per the 1939 Freight Equipment Book, the 38300-38999 are 36 foot double sheathed wood cars with the frame fishbelly at the edge of the car sides.�  W&R imported these cars in HO and Funaro makes a resin kit for them.
 
Gary Laakso

 
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Steel or Single-Sheathed?
 
Bill Welch


Re: ATSF Tk-N Tk-O tank car models

Steve SANDIFER
 

I know the consultant who designed these, and he specified etched open grid running boards and platforms on his plan.  That does not mean that the models will have such, but they were originally designed that way.  (I had nothing to do with the design of this model.)

 

However, the Society Tank Car book says “running boards were diamond tread steel and dome platforms were of open grid steel construction.” A photo on page 89 of that book clearly shows the dome platforms to be open grid. None of the photos clearly show the running boards. You have probably switched a bunch of these and may have photos that the rest of us don’t have. I would assume the open grid to be much safer to walk on.

 

Yes, the TK-N and TK-O were identical.

 

I wish manufacturers would proof this type of thing more carefully before going public. The initial Rapido ATSF RDC ad has some significant problems too that they know about but have not corrected.  

 

Maybe they want critics to point out the mistakes so they can get it right before production.

 

J. Stephen Sandifer

 

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There are two major things wrong with their ad. First the side running boards WERE NOT DIAMOND PLATE steel but open grid steel the same as the dome platforms. Second the Tk-O is the same as the Tk-N and not the TK-M. I have sent the corrections to San Juan Car Co. and they said samples should arrive shortly and they think everything will be OK, otherwise we will have another bad model.
Charlie Slater

Bakersfield, Ca. 

 

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Announcement pages 1 & 2 uploaded

https://www.flickr.com/photos/timboconnor/36112470400/

Delivery is 15 MONTHS or more, but reservations end in ONE MONTH

Caveat emptor



Tim,

I do not see these on the American Limited web site. Do you have any additional information?

Thanks & Cheers,
Bill Keene
Irvine, CA






American Limited has announced HO scale tank car models! Built in
the late 1940's with steel grid walkways and open grid dome platforms.

Too bad they're not SP tank cars. :-(

But they are the first 16,000 gallon plastic tank car models in HO scale
and a number of railroads had cars of this size. Major kitbash fodder if
nothing else. :-)

Tim O'Connor


Re: Barber vs ASF in HO

Tim O'Connor
 


Red Caboose made an excellent Barber S2. Exactrail makes an S2 as well.
Neither one has the complete brake beam detail found on Kato, Tahoe, and
Kadee trucks.

Tim O'Connor




Hi all, my WP modeling asks for two different plankless 50 ton trucks under one type of box car model (WP 20201-20550).
WP 20201-20350 had Barber S2 trucks and WP 20351-20550 had ASF A-3 trucks.
I've bought Branchline (Atlas) S-2's and Kato A-3's because these represent the prototypes best with their typical diagonal inner beam supports.
The Branchline S-2 truck has the thinner spring support and the Kato A-3 truck the thicker one.
However; the Kadee 562 A-3 truck might be a bit finer in the details than the Kato. Are there any other options for the Branchline S2, since the journal boxes are a bit skinny. Your thoughts are appreciated.
best regards,
Fred Jansz


Re: CG 56295, a ventilated boxcar...

rwitt_2000
 

Schuyler wrote: Interesting construction of the diamonds.  Not the usual somewhat monolithic assembly of parts, but instead, just a short guard rail opposite the actual junction of the opposite rails, much like a switch.

Not exactly a freight car topic, but could these diamonds be an early example of flange ways carrying the wheels over the crossing? I don't see a flange way gap for the tracks in the left to right direction.

Bob Witt


Track and its components are what our freight cars ride on.


Re: AAR Car Type Codes

Al Kresse <water.kresse@...>
 

I know this is stretching the era limits for the group, but when did the A.A.R. add A.A.R. Car Type Codes like A220, A400, B220, etc.  to FC ORER's in addition to their mechanical designations XAP, etc.?


Al Kresse . . . . pushed into an later-era that I'd hope to avoid and didn't keep records for


Re: CG 56295, a ventilated boxcar...

Tim O'Connor
 


Didn't the N&W also use position lights?



Yes... in fact, that style of signal bridge was common on the PRR Lines West.
 
Bill Daniels San Francisco, CA


On Friday, August 11, 2017 8:42 PM, "'Schuyler Larrabee' schuyler.larrabee@... [STMFC]" wrote:


 
Interesting construction of the diamonds.  Not the usual somewhat monolithic assembly of parts, but instead, just a short guard rail opposite the actual junction of the opposite rails, much like a switch.
 
Schuyler
 
 
Are those PRR position light signals on the right?
 
Todd Horton
 
Hi List members,

We have a nice image of CG 56295, a ventilated boxcar...

https://www.flickr.com/photos/barrigerlibrary/19140738830/sizes/o/

Enjoy!

Claus Schlund


Re: Anyone have any thoughts regarding an ID on this 40ft SS auto Box?

rwitt_2000
 

Claus,

I agree with Steve's observation. It sure looks like its from the same series of automobile box cars. The doors look very, very similar.

Here's the link again: https://www.flickr.com/photos/barrigerlibrary/16225934465/sizes/o/

Regards,

Bob Witt


Re: Anyone have any thoughts regarding an ID on this 40ft SS auto Box?

Steve and Barb Hile
 

That sure looks like a Rock Island car, similar to the one highlighted the other day with the wooden D&H hopper.  You can sort of see the Rock Island lettering stacked next to the door.

Steve Hile

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Hi List Members,

Anyone have any thoughts regarding an ID on this 40ft SS auto Box?

https://www.flickr.com/photos/barrigerlibrary/32291091461/sizes/o/

Description sez "Negative 95 Rock Island Fairbury Nebr - station March 28 1962 001"

Claus Schlund


Re: Various Freight Houses (Jib Crane)

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Re: Various Freight Houses (Jib Crane)

Nelson Moyer
 

I have an unbuilt Alexander kit of that hip roof depot packed away somewhere. I think it’s a PRR prototype. Contact me off list if anyone is interested in buying it. I built one in the seventies when I was freelancing, and now it doesn’t fit my prototype. I’d consider selling that one as well. It was good enough to earn a merit award in NMRA judging so it’s well built. Photos available and price negotiable.

I hope the sheriff is in a charitable mood today, as I realize this isn’t about freight cars except for the fact that the depot is a combination depot and freight house with a loading dock for rail to road transfers.

Nelson Moyer

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On 8/13/2017 10:14 AM, thecitrusbelt@yahoo.com<mailto:thecitrusbelt@yahoo.com> [STMFC] wrote:


Nice image of a jib crane in this particular link:

Close to the old Alexander model. Don't know if it's still made.

--

Jon Miller

For me time stopped in 1941

Digitrax Chief/Zephyr systems, JMRI User

NMRA Life member #2623

Member SFRH&MS


Re: NP 38668-38759

Matt Herson
 

Schuyler,



The NP 38668-38759 series double door box cars were steel cars that were on
the roster after the cut off time of this list. For a diagram of the cars go
to nprha.org, go to freight cars, box car diagrams, and then to number
series.

Matt Herson



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These were 40’ two-door cars. I would like to find a good ¾ view of these,
perhaps two, showing A and B ends.



Can any of the NP guys on this list provide me with links, or perhaps a
scanned image or two?



Thanks very much.



Schuyler


Re: ATSF Tk-N Tk-O tank car models

Michael Gross
 

Thank you, Charlie Slater.  It is people like yourself and so many others on this list to help manufacturers get things right.

Bravo!


Anyone have any thoughts regarding an ID on this 40ft SS auto Box?

Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 

Hi List Members,

Anyone have any thoughts regarding an ID on this 40ft SS auto Box?

https://www.flickr.com/photos/barrigerlibrary/32291091461/sizes/o/

Description sez "Negative 95 Rock Island Fairbury Nebr - station March 28 1962 001"

Claus Schlund


Re: ATSF Tk-N Tk-O tank car models

Jon Miller
 

On 8/13/2017 10:43 AM, Charles Slater atsfcondr42@... [STMFC] wrote:
otherwise we will have another bad model.

    Sorta (real loosely)  fits with my comments on .088 wheels!  For a 50-60 dollar car range these must be correct.  The folks buying these are not blue boxers so they should get them right.  The standard line if they don't is well nobody is buying them.

-- 
Jon Miller
For me time stopped in 1941
Digitrax  Chief/Zephyr systems, JMRI User
NMRA Life member #2623
Member SFRH&MS


Re: Various Freight Houses (Jib Crane)

Jon Miller
 

On 8/13/2017 10:14 AM, thecitrusbelt@... [STMFC] wrote:

Nice image of a jib crane in this particular link:

    Close to the old Alexander model.  Don't know if it's still made.

-- 
Jon Miller
For me time stopped in 1941
Digitrax  Chief/Zephyr systems, JMRI User
NMRA Life member #2623
Member SFRH&MS


Re: ATSF Tk-N Tk-O tank car models

charles slater
 

There are two major things wrong with their ad. First the side running boards WERE NOT DIAMOND PLATE steel but open grid steel the same as the dome platforms. Second the Tk-O is the same as the Tk-N and not the TK-M. I have sent the corrections to San Juan Car Co. and they said samples should arrive shortly and they think everything will be OK, otherwise we will have another bad model.
Charlie Slater

Bakersfield, Ca. 


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Announcement pages 1 & 2 uploaded

https://www.flickr.com/photos/timboconnor/36112470400/

Delivery is 15 MONTHS or more, but reservations end in ONE MONTH

Caveat emptor




Tim,

I do not see these on the American Limited web site. Do you have any additional information?

Thanks & Cheers,
Bill Keene
Irvine, CA




American Limited has announced HO scale tank car models! Built in
the late 1940's with steel grid walkways and open grid dome platforms.

Too bad they're not SP tank cars. :-(

But they are the first 16,000 gallon plastic tank car models in HO scale
and a number of railroads had cars of this size. Major kitbash fodder if
nothing else. :-)

Tim O'Connor


Re: Various Freight Houses (Jib Crane)

thecitrusbelt@...
 

Nice image of a jib crane in this particular link:


https://www.flickr.com/photos/barrigerlibrary/21091668818/sizes/o/


Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA

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