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Re: YVRR layout video on YouTube...

Jack Burgess
 

That visit must have been during the 2000 San Jose NMRA Convention. Thanks for the kind comments Al.



Jack



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Jack – Great stuff! I fondly remember visiting you with Richard Hendrickson and being so impressed with your work. Your writings on researching the YV taught me the skills to do the same for several of my projects. Thanks. – Al



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Last month, a two-person crew from TSG Media videoed my layout in High-def over several days. The video follows a freight train (required freight car stuff) from Merced to El Portal. It has now been uploaded to YouTube at

https://youtu.be/EHGkZHLqALY

Jack Burgess










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Re: YVRR layout video on YouTube...

billvolner
 

I was with this video team last weekend and over lunch we were discussing what future projects they are interested in.  I immediately thought of your layout because of it's great operations design as well as quality modeling.  I am sure it would be another classic video.

Bill Volner 

 

 

On 2017-06-12 6:32 am, Tony Thompson tony@... [STMFC] wrote:

 

 

Jack Burgess wrote:
 
Last month, a two-person crew from TSG Media videoed my layout in High-def over several days. The video follows a freight train (required freight car stuff) from Merced to El Portal. It has now been uploaded to YouTube at

    Great presentation by you, Jack, and a terrific job by TSG. Just an excellent video. Couldn't ask for much more.

Tony Thompson             Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705         www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; e-mail, tony@...
Publishers of books on railroad history
 


Re: YVRR layout video on YouTube...

Jack Burgess
 

RJ…Your comments gave me a chuckle. After the final post-production, the videographer brought a Blu-ray copy over and we watched it on our large screen TV. It is impressive when a train runs by and one of my 4” long box cars is projected 3’ long!



Jack



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Same here. Ho-hum, another layout YouTube...and then ended up AirPlaying the entire thing on the big 56" screen TV.

Very nice, thanks again for the prototype fidelity modeling inspiration.

RJ Dial

Burlingame


Hodina virtual RPM

Eric Hansmann
 

Frank Hodina shares freight cars images from his HO scale fleet on the Resin Car Works blog. Check out the latest virtual RPM.

http://blog.resincarworks.com/franks-models-pt-1/



Eric Hansmann
RCW web guy


Re: BAR ex-MDT Reefer Decals from Tichy & Placards

Bill Welch
 

Thanks for speaking up Tony, I was not sure if they fit our period.

Bill Welch


Participation needed for WP car

Fred Jansz
 

Hi all,
the past years I'v been lobbying for the production in HO-scale resin of rare bird: Western Pacific's first box car, their outside braced single sheated car, built in 1916 by Pullman. I've bought copies of the Pullman drawings, gathered all the info needed and offered this to the various parties.

The car in question is not mainstream and was a rare car in 1:1 version after 1937, but very sturdy because it lasted in various forms from 1916-1982.
This car could be interesting for:
1. Western Pacific Modelers
2. Western railroad enthusiasts, modelers and collectors alike
3. any other HO-scale modeler

To measure interest I've put up a poll on my Western Pacific Modelers Group on Fb and within 24 hours almost 50 cars were 'reserved'. If only there was a model available!


In 2016 a few incomplete (floors were missing) sets of resin sides for this car (and a 50' OB car) sold on ebay for over $220 last autumn.

So you might say the Western Pacific modeler is rather desparate...!?


The car in question was built by Pullman in 1916, numbered in the 15001-16000 series and ran in original condition/numbers until approx. 1940 in revenue service. As you can see there were 1000 of these, so chances are real these cars were all over the Western USA and occasionally even further from 1916-1940.


WP decided to turn 432 into stock cars along the way. Also they built the distinctive WP outside braced cupola and bay window cabooses from these Pullman box cars and a lot were converted to MW cars.


In 1937-1942 WP assigned 125 cars (WP26001-26125) to 'plaster service' to serve the US Gypsum plant in Nevada. 35 of these cars had either 2 or 4 hatches in the roof and travelled all over the West with their plaster loads.

Later on these cars ended up in revenue service again. The 1964 WP diagram still shows these 26001-26125 numbered cars present on the system.


If you model <1940 you could model an original car in the 15001-series, plus a plaster car w. hatches in the 26001-series.

If you model >1940, chances were slim you'd encounter a WP car in a non-WP train, but US Gypsum plaster was transported to various locations, so who knows?

After a certain date the 125 cars were back in revenue until at least 1964.

WP modelers have many opportunities; original car, plaster car, revenue and the many MW cars.

(the stock cars were a nice spin off, but would need another master in resin)


I write this plea for production in resin of Western Pacific's first box car here to measure if there's any interest at all among the menbers of the steam group for a model like this in HO-scale (high end resin kit).

If you are interested in reserving one or more of these rare and landmark WP cars, please let me know off list at my personal email: fred at janszholding dot nl. Members of my WPMG need not reply.

Thanks for your time and I hope to hear from you, so this car can be produced in the near future!

best regards, Fred Jansz


Re: YVRR layout video on YouTube...

Tony Thompson
 

Jack Burgess wrote:

 
Last month, a two-person crew from TSG Media videoed my layout in High-def over several days. The video follows a freight train (required freight car stuff) from Merced to El Portal. It has now been uploaded to YouTube at

    Great presentation by you, Jack, and a terrific job by TSG. Just an excellent video. Couldn't ask for much more.

Tony Thompson             Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705         www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; e-mail, tony@...
Publishers of books on railroad history






Re: BAR ex-MDT Reefer Decals from Tichy & Placards

Tony Thompson
 

   These Tichy placards are awfully modern for our list.

Tony Thompson             Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
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Re: Help on tank colors - GATX 68508

Steve and Barb Hile
 

Sometimes, it pays to check things BEFORE shooting off one's mouth.  According to the 1955 Tank Car Tariff, GATX 68508 IS a 10000 gallon welded tank, with an actual capacity of 10141 gallons!
 
So, depending upon the lengths of the Tangent underframe and the Red Caboose tank, Bill's "marriage" might be possible.
 
Sorry of any confusion.
 
Steve Hile



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Sadly, the Red Caboose tank is 10,000 gallons.  I wonder if Tom Madden would consider casting an 8000 gallon welded tank?
 
Steve Hile


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FYI needed for this marriage is one Undec Tangent Gen. Amer. Acid Tank Car kit 13000-01 and one Red Caboose 8K welded tank.


Bill Welch


Re: YVRR layout video on YouTube...

 

Jack – Great stuff!  I fondly remember visiting you with Richard Hendrickson and being so impressed with your work.  Your writings on researching the YV taught me the skills to do the same for several of my projects.  Thanks. – Al
 

From: 'Jack Burgess' jack@... [STMFC]
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To: Steam Era Freight Cars
Subject: [STMFC] YVRR layout video on YouTube...
 
 

Last month, a two-person crew from TSG Media videoed my layout in High-def over several days. The video follows a freight train (required freight car stuff) from Merced to El Portal. It has now been uploaded to YouTube at

https://youtu.be/EHGkZHLqALY

Jack Burgess


Re: Tichy brake part

Clark Propst
 

Thanks Marty. I had non idea what to do with the blank sheet of resin that was suppose to go behind the auto door. I just glued the door end on after I glued together the other end, sides, roof, and floor. I put a styrene strip on the roof to make it appear heavier duty. I’ll add that power hand brake. Thinking of bringing the car to the St L meet unpainted...
Clark Propst – trying to come up with words for the F&C initials. I’m thinking Frustration and ?  ;  ))
Mason City Iowa
 
Clark,

When I did an “as-delivered” 41000-series car a few years ago I used either a part from a Detail Associates or Precision scale brake set for the lever and ratchet.

The Universal lever hand brakes were replaced by Ajax geared hand brakes in the 1940s when the cars were converted to AB brakes. As they were rebuilt they were also likely repainted into the “stacked Gothic” lettering (introduced in 1941).

The best improvement you can make to the F&C kit is to “bulk up” (I don’t know how to describe it) the frame behind the upper portion of the door on the A end of the car - otherwise the door is kind of floating in spots. Another interested spotting feature on these cars is the stirrup step that is attached to the ladder stiles, not the side sill of the car.

For more on these cars, see the article in CVRHS Ambassador, vol 24, number 4 by Steve Horsley. Also, see the August 2001 MR for Ed Beaudette’s article (that includes prototype drawings)

Marty McGuirk

> On Jun 11, 2017, at 6:13 PM, cepropst@q.com [STMFC] wrote:
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> Can’t say I’ve ever seen a description for the parts on a Tichy brake sprue. I’m doing an F&C CV 1 1/2 door SS auto car. I’d like to use the ratchet hand brake. I see a part resembling it on the Tichy sprue, but isn’t there another piece to the bake apparatus?
> Clark Propst
> Mason City Iowa
>
>


Re: YVRR layout video on YouTube...

Schuyler Larrabee
 

Jack, I opened the link late last night, and when it started I thought “Oh, I can’t stay up even later to watch this!  A half hour?  REALLY?”

 

Half an hour later, I turned off the computer, glad that I’d given you the time to tell the story.  Great job, and I love that you can be >satisfied< with what you’ve done.  Beautiful work and layout, in a remarkably small space.

 

Schuyler

Same here.  Ho-hum, another layout YouTube...and then ended up AirPlaying the entire thing on the big 56" screen TV.

Very nice, thanks again for the prototype fidelity modeling inspiration. 

RJ Dial

Burlingame


Re: YVRR layout video on YouTube...

radiodial868
 

Same here.  Ho-hum, another layout YouTube...and then ended up AirPlaying the entire thing on the big 56" screen TV.
Very nice, thanks again for the prototype fidelity modeling inspiration. 
RJ Dial
Burlingame


BAR ex-MDT Reefer Decals from Tichy & Placards

Bill Welch
 


Re: YVRR layout video on YouTube...

Jack Burgess
 

Thanks Scott...your experience mirrors a member of our YV Yahoo chat list. He said "I saw your post regarding the video and clicked the link. I noticed that it was 40+ minutes and said to myself “I’ll watch a little of this now before I get to work on my chores today”. Once I started it however there was no turning back and watched the whole thing through."

Jack

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That was great Jack! I figured I would watch a few minutes of it and ended up watching the whole thing.

Fantastic layout.

Scott McDonald

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Re: Tichy brake part

Marty McGuirk
 

Clark, 

When I did an “as-delivered” 41000-series car a few years ago I used either a part from a Detail Associates or Precision scale brake set for the lever and ratchet. 

The Universal lever hand brakes were replaced by Ajax geared hand brakes in the 1940s when the cars were converted to AB brakes. As they were rebuilt they were also likely repainted into the “stacked Gothic” lettering (introduced in 1941). 

The best improvement you can make to the F&C kit is to “bulk up” (I don’t know how to describe it) the frame behind the upper portion of the door on the A end of the car - otherwise the door is kind of floating in spots. Another interested spotting feature on these cars is the stirrup step that is attached to the ladder stiles, not the side sill of the car. 

For more on these cars, see the article in CVRHS Ambassador, vol 24, number 4 by Steve Horsley.  Also, see the August 2001 MR for Ed Beaudette’s article (that includes prototype drawings)  

Marty McGuirk





On Jun 11, 2017, at 6:13 PM, cepropst@q.com [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:


Can’t say I’ve ever seen a description for the parts on a Tichy brake sprue. I’m doing an F&C CV 1 1/2 door SS auto car. I’d like to use the ratchet hand brake. I see a part resembling it on the Tichy sprue, but isn’t there another piece to the bake apparatus? 
Clark Propst
Mason City Iowa



Re: YVRR layout video on YouTube...

Scott
 

That was great Jack! I figured I would watch a few minutes of it and ended up watching the whole thing.

Fantastic layout.

Scott McDonald


Tichy brake part

Clark Propst
 

Can’t say I’ve ever seen a description for the parts on a Tichy brake sprue. I’m doing an F&C CV 1 1/2 door SS auto car. I’d like to use the ratchet hand brake. I see a part resembling it on the Tichy sprue, but isn’t there another piece to the bake apparatus?
Clark Propst
Mason City Iowa


Re: Help on tank colors - GATX 68508

Tom Madden
 

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> Sadly, the Red Caboose tank is 10,000 gallons.  I wonder if Tom Madden
> would consider casting an 8000 gallon welded tank?
 
Sure - if someone wants to prepare a master pattern.

Tom Madden


Re: Help on tank colors - GATX 68508

John Barry
 

Steve,
There are at least four and most likely different colors involved.  The underframe, handrails, ladders and running boards are most likely black, weathered after years of use.  I would bet money that the tank was in the GATX black leasing scheme earlier in its life and has maintained the white reporting marks on the frame.  The paint job on the tank is obviously fading and shows evidence of uneven spray application with the thinnest areas exposing the previous base color.  Santa Fe silver work equipment exhibited the same kind of fading and the tank body tone is different than the frame reporting marks and stenciling on the adjacent cars.  My best guess is that a black lease tank had been resprayed silver as the base for this scheme.
The outlines on the letters and emblems are the darkest of at least three distinct tones and seem to match the tone of the adjacent handrail as does the reporting mark on the tank itself.  The lightest tone seems to match between the areas as does the fairly dark intermediate tone.  My first guess, although educated from interpreting WWII camo schemes, was that the CSC letters and fill on the other two emblems were yellow and the disk and Industrial Chemicals/Commercial Solvent Corp letters were a shade of blue.  The tones make sense.  Then I found a CSC article in Industrial & Engineering Chemistry COMMERCIAL SOLVENTS CORPORATION - Industrial & Engineering Chemistry (ACS Publications)That shows  the CSC emblem in 1960 as a black disk with orange letters.  But that simple logo on the page does not exactly match the one on the tank as the print version lacks the  very dark outlines and outer light tone surround found on the tank.  With that find my first thought was, perhaps the light tone represents Orange, the dark intermediate a Dark Blue, and the Outlines and tank reporting marks Black over a spottily fading Silver over Black tank.  With your insight, perhaps the disk is orange with yellow letters outlined in black and the rectangles yellow with orange letters outlined in black.  I still think the tank was a poorly sprayed and fading silver, but it could have been a light grey.  The greys didn't seem to fade like the silver paint though. John Barry ATSF North Bay Lines Golden Gates & Fast Freights Lovettsville, VA
707-490-9696 
PO Box 44736 Washington, DC 20026-4736

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Subject: RE: [STMFC] Orphan FOFC photo - UOCX 8018

  Not to be contrarian, particularly, but I could vote for a red oval and yellowish CSC and a black outline, with the other boxes have the yellowish backgrounds and red lettering.  See https://www.amazon.com/MECHANICS-COMMERCIAL-SOLVENTS-CORPORATION-2152604-S-5005/dp/B00FCCBTTW It is interesting to note the CSC once had the Peak anti-freeze brand.  A stop in Terre Haute could be very helpful. Regards,Steve Hile
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  Ted:
An excellent guess for the oval herald would be orange and black:
COMMERCIAL SOLVENTS CORPORATION - Industrial & Engineering Chemistry (ACS Publications)


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Best,
Dave ParkerRiverside, CA

On Thursday, June 8, 2017 11:53 AM, "Ted Culotta speedwitchmedia@... [STMFC]" <STMFC@...> wrote:


  I posted a photo to my blog that turned up mixed in with the head end, passenger, and locomotive stuff from the FOFC photos (Urac Collection). You can see it at my blog (link below).
Enjoy.
Cheers,Ted
Ted CulottaSpeedwitch Mediaspeedwitchmedia@... -  www.speedwitchmedia.comBlog: http://prototopics.blogspot.com

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