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Re: CB&Q Gons at the Kaiser Richmond Plate Shop

Jared Harper
 

Claus,

Nice model.

Jared Harper


Touchup paint

Clark Propst
 

A friend picked up a GN plywood sided Intermountain RTR box car at a train show a couple Saturdays ago for $5. The model had a reweigh date of 1956, newer than the time I model, so I checked with Bob Heninger. He said I’d be ok backdating the reweigh. I was sticking on some chalk mark decals and wondered if some of the appliances may need to be replaced, knowing the generic parts IM always puts on their models. Bob suggested I replace the US Gypsum running board with an Apex because of the car’s number. I had a Kadee oxide colored one so that was canopy glued on. The color wasn’t even close to the rest of the car. I looked through my dwindling paint supply which didn’t get me any closer. So, I dug out my craft paints I bought at Wal-Mart for 50 cents a bottle. I use them to touch up my layout backdrops. I mixed a dark red, brown, tan and light gray to come up with a match, or real close. I don’t know if these craft paints would work on all touchups, but they are something to consider when replacing parts on decorated models.
Clark Propst
Mason City Iowa


Pennzoil Tank Cars

thecitrusbelt@...
 

A friend of mine recalls seeing a Pennzoil tank car parked at a facility in Wilmington, CA. The car had a pipe attached underneath that went through a fence and into a building on the property. He was told they were filling quart cans on their canning line for Pennzoil retail sales .

 

He described the tank car as black with white or aluminum lettering and the Pennzoil logo. It was not the bright yellow seen from an earlier time period on toy train sets that may or may not have been prototypical.

 

Does anyone know more about this kind of Pennzoil tank car? Were there other, more colorful Pennzoil tank cars?

 

Thanks.

 

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA

 


Re: CB&Q Gons at the Kaiser Richmond Plate Shop

Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 

Hi John, Al, and List Members,

John, here is an in-service image of my model of CB&Q 195451.

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5560/30610106755_10cfe49bee_o.jpg

I made some modifications and did some superdetailing on it, but the car is available in RTR plastic from Micro-Trains in N scale. John, you did not mention what scale, but as I recall from your past posts you model HO scale, correct?

I can send you some prototype images of this car series if you like, send me an email and let me know.

Claus Schlund


Re: Resin car assembler wanted

Jared Harper
 

Thanks!

Jared Harper


Re: M3A1 flat car loads was Re: NC&StL FM-7 Flat Car Photos

Robert Heninger
 

The cars all look a little swaybacked to me. No wonder you see pictures of flatcars with broken centersills.

Regards,
Bob Heninger
Minot, ND


M3A1 flat car loads was Re: NC&StL FM-7 Flat Car Photos

Bruce Smith
 

​​​To be precise, the tanks are M3A1, of which 300 were produced by the American Locomotive Company between February and August 1942.  272 were powered by Wright radial aircraft engines, while 28 were powered by Gurberson T-1400-2 diesels. A view with a better resolution also shows the blue USA serial number markings from early in the war, for those contemplating M3 loads ;)  

Here's a 3/4 view of the NC&St.L FM-7 #70035 with M3A1 load

http://data2.archives.ca/e/e444/e011086599-v8.jpg

The photos is from the Archives of Canada, and while unlabeled as to date or location, some additional photos that are clearly in the same group are labeled Buffalo as the location.  I'm struggling to see reweigh dates on any of these cars.


M10 tank destroyer on SP 40585

http://data2.archives.ca/e/e444/e011086603-v8.jpg


M3A1 Lee on BAR 71710

http://data2.archives.ca/e/e444/e011086601-v8.jpg

http://data2.archives.ca/e/e444/e011086600-v8.jpg


Given that each of these cars has the horizontal "plumb line", it appears that this might have been part of a loading test?


Regards

Bruce Smith

Auburn, AL



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Sent: Monday, April 3, 2017 4:02 PM
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Subject: [STMFC] NC&StL FM-7 Flat Car Photos
 


I like to promote "Ya'll RR" freight cars whenever possible. Speedwitch has issued decals for the NC&StL's three groups of nominal 40-ft flatcars. Photos of the FM-7 are rare and I thought I would share those I have. The FM-7 will require some moderate kit-bashing using the Tichy flat car kit as it had fewer stake pockets than the later two groups. Great opportunity to use those interesting and early Kadee Andrews trucks. The M-3 cast hull Medium Tank load on #70035 is interesting but ultra rare. Note the "plumb line" strung between the sill steps. Happy modeling: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/zry7jfrggty1yln/AAClxVCbiZhSofaZQjVfLYIPa?dl=0


Bill Welch

 




Re: CB&Q Gons at the Kaiser Richmond Plate Shop

dalemuir2@...
 

John,

Contact me off group for a photo of 195626

Dale

dalemuir1@...

 

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Subject: Re: [STMFC] Re: CB&Q Gons at the Kaiser Richmond Plate Shop

 

 

My apologies, this was intended as a private message direct to Al.  But since I've let the cat out of the bag, does anyone have a photo of the CB&Q 195000-196499 series GB gondola that they are willing to share for a personal modeling project?  Are any kits available of these 48'6" IL ten panel, nine post, composite gons?  What kind of trucks did they use circa 1944?  AB or K brake?  Type of brake wheel?  

 

John

 

John Barry

 

ATSF North Bay Lines 

Golden Gates & Fast Freights 

Lovettsville, VA

 

707-490-9696 

 

PO Box 44736 

Washington, DC 20026-4736

 


From: "John Barry northbaylines@... [STMFC]" <STMFC@...>
To: "STMFC@..." <STMFC@...>
Sent: Monday, April 3, 2017 7:19 PM
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Re: CB&Q Gons at the Kaiser Richmond Plate Shop

 

 

Al,

 

Thanks for the pointers, but I've been unable to access the photo.  Any chance of a scan for personal use?

 

John

 

John Barry

 

ATSF North Bay Lines 

Golden Gates & Fast Freights 

Lovettsville, VA

 

707-490-9696 

 

PO Box 44736 

Washington, DC 20026-4736

 


From: "Allan Smith smithal9@... [STMFC]" <STMFC@...>
To: "STM! FC@..." <STMFC@...>
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2016 10:18 PM
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Re: CB&Q Gons at the Kaiser Richmond Plate Shop

 

 

There is a photo of car CB&Q 195499 on page 215 of the 1931 Car Builder's Cyclopedia. It is also shown on page 215 of Train Shed # 46.

 

Al Smith

Sonora Ca

 

 


Re: HO scale caboose steps

Ray Breyer
 

Why not scratch 'em? See the Fall 2011 issue of the NKPHTS Modeler's Notebook for a quick, easy & effective way to do so.

nkphts.org/modelersnotebook/2011/11-15-11mn.pdf

Ray Breyer
Elgin, IL



From: "ed_mines@... [STMFC]"
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Monday, April 3, 2017 3:15 PM
Subject: [STMFC] HO scale caboose steps

Does anyone offer these besides Silver Streak and Selley?
Anyone who has half built Ambroid/Q'craft cabooses that you want to get rid of please contact me off list.
Ed Mines


CB&Q gon

Allan Smith
 

Attached is a scan of TS #46 page 215
Al SmithSonora CA


Re: CB&Q Gons at the Kaiser Richmond Plate Shop

John Barry
 

My apologies, this was intended as a private message direct to Al.  But since I've let the cat out of the bag, does anyone have a photo of the CB&Q 195000-196499 series GB gondola that they are willing to share for a personal modeling project?  Are any kits available of these 48'6" IL ten panel, nine post, composite gons?  What kind of trucks did they use circa 1944?  AB or K brake?  Type of brake wheel?  

John
 
John Barry
 
ATSF North Bay Lines 
Golden Gates & Fast Freights 
Lovettsville, VA

707-490-9696 

PO Box 44736 
Washington, DC 20026-4736



From: "John Barry northbaylines@... [STMFC]"
To: "STMFC@..."
Sent: Monday, April 3, 2017 7:19 PM
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Re: CB&Q Gons at the Kaiser Richmond Plate Shop

 
Al,

Thanks for the pointers, but I've been unable to access the photo.  Any chance of a scan for personal use?

John
 
John Barry
 
ATSF North Bay Lines 
Golden Gates & Fast Freights 
Lovettsville, VA

707-490-9696 

PO Box 44736 
Washington, DC 20026-4736



From: "Allan Smith smithal9@... [STMFC]"
To: "STM! FC@..."
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2016 10:18 PM
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Re: CB&Q Gons at the Kaiser Richmond Plate Shop

 
There is a photo of car CB&Q 195499 on page 215 of the 1931 Car Builder's Cyclopedia. It is also shown on page 215 of Train Shed # 46.

Al Smith
Sonora Ca





MRRX 2500 series

rwilson1056
 

reading MM 3/92 issue, there's reference to Morrell 2500 series reefers re-built in 1950 with Thermo-King mech. units for frozen OJ concentrate service. Curious to know if these would have been routed to the mid-west via SAL's N FLA/ GA division or ACL AB&C/Western div. Modeling spring/summer 1951 Tallahassee Sub, (Lake City, FL to Tallahassee, FL) in tobacco/watermelon season. Seems it would be circuitous to route up to Richmond on either line and then toward the midwest.. looking the Freight Geography for the SAL from '48 thesis looks like ACL and SAL split meat traffic into the SE pretty evenly, wondering if meat traffic would have come to the SE via the routes thru Alabama or Georgia. SAL had a healthy interchange of traffic with the CoG, wondering if a routing via Birmingham-Columbus from the midwest would be realistic?  Trying to justify meat reefer down to FL and frozen OJ conc back on my line. Would be an interesting model, Any comments appreciated.



Re: CB&Q Gons at the Kaiser Richmond Plate Shop

John Barry
 

Al,

Thanks for the pointers, but I've been unable to access the photo.  Any chance of a scan for personal use?

John
 
John Barry
 
ATSF North Bay Lines 
Golden Gates & Fast Freights 
Lovettsville, VA

707-490-9696 

PO Box 44736 
Washington, DC 20026-4736



From: "Allan Smith smithal9@... [STMFC]"
To: "STMFC@..."
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2016 10:18 PM
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Re: CB&Q Gons at the Kaiser Richmond Plate Shop

 
There is a photo of car CB&Q 195499 on page 215 of the 1931 Car Builder's Cyclopedia. It is also shown on page 215 of Train Shed # 46.

Al Smith
Sonora Ca



Re: Era of PFE car

Brian Termunde
 

Well Jack, I do have one of those cars my Micro-Trains in N Scale! I used to have a couple, but I think I've gotten rid of the rest of them once I learned that it wouldn't fit on my 1953 era railroad.

Take Care,
 
Brian R. Termunde
Midvale, Utah

**********************************

3c. Re: Era of PFE car
Posted by: "Jack Burgess" jack@... yvrrus
Date: Sun Apr 2, 2017 11:10 am ((PDT))

That sounds like the NMRA 2000 national convention car. Twenty-two cars were painted in the “curved corner” scheme in 1936. Except for the curved corners, the cars were otherwise painted in typical PFE colors and lettering. The curved corners were removed by October 1938 according to Tony Thompson’s PFE book.



Jack Burgess


Re: NC&StL FM-7 Flat Car Photos

Garth Groff <sarahsan@...>
 

Bill,

These tanks in your photo M3 Grant variants: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tanks_of_the_United_States#/media/File:Aberdean_proving_grounds_023.JPG ?

Yours Aye,


Garth Groff


On 4/3/17 5:02 PM, fgexbill@... [STMFC] wrote:
 

I like to promote "Ya'll RR" freight cars whenever possible. Speedwitch has issued decals for the NC&StL's three groups of nominal 40-ft flatcars. Photos of the FM-7 are rare and I thought I would share those I have. The FM-7 will require some moderate kit-bashing using the Tichy flat car kit as it had fewer stake pockets than the later two groups. Great opportunity to use those interesting and early Kadee Andrews trucks. The M-3 cast hull Medium Tank load on #70035 is interesting but ultra rare. Note the "plumb line" strung between the sill steps. Happy modeling: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/zry7jfrggty1yln/AAClxVCbiZhSofaZQjVfLYIPa?dl=0


Bill Welch

 



NC&StL FM-7 Flat Car Photos

Bill Welch
 

I like to promote "Ya'll RR" freight cars whenever possible. Speedwitch has issued decals for the NC&StL's three groups of nominal 40-ft flatcars. Photos of the FM-7 are rare and I thought I would share those I have. The FM-7 will require some moderate kit-bashing using the Tichy flat car kit as it had fewer stake pockets than the later two groups. Great opportunity to use those interesting and early Kadee Andrews trucks. The M-3 cast hull Medium Tank load on #70035 is interesting but ultra rare. Note the "plumb line" strung between the sill steps. Happy modeling: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/zry7jfrggty1yln/AAClxVCbiZhSofaZQjVfLYIPa?dl=0


Bill Welch

 


HO scale caboose steps

ed_mines
 

Does anyone offer these besides Silver Streak and Selley?


Anyone who has half built Ambroid/Q'craft cabooses that you want to get rid of please contact me off list.


Ed Mines



Re: These have to be April Fool jokes, right?

ed_mines
 


I've noticed a lot of old wood freight car kits are being offered at what I consider to be a premium too.


Ed Mines



Re: Resin car assembler wanted

Jack Burgess
 

Jared…



Westerfield Models has a list of custom resin kit builders on the homepage of their website.



Jack Burgess



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Subject: [STMFC] Resin car assembler wanted








Apparently unlike many model railroaders who do not plan to finish their model railroads I would like to get mine mostly complete before I croak. I really love the prototype research and I like operation, but all the stuff in between like building models is not a big thrill although I am getting structures and scenery built. Anyway I am looking for someone who assembles resin kits. I have been sending kits to Pierre Oliver who does a really outstanding job but isn't getting them built as fast as I would like. Is there someone else who assembles resin kits for pay?



Jared Harper

Athens, GA










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Re: Resin car assembler wanted

vapeurchapelon
 

Hello Jared,
 
yes there are several AFAIK. Who comes to my mind is scratchbuiltmike - Michael Stamey/ South East Scale Models. He has an ebay account where he frequently sells cars. Years ago I purchased two of them and I am pleased with the quality. Here is a (used) example:
 
https://www.brasstrains.com/Classic/Product/Detail/072664/HO-Built-Up-Model-Train-Car-Southeast-Scale-ARTC-Type-1a-Reefer-11264-F-P
 
Johannes
 
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Apparently unlike many model railroaders who do not plan to finish their model railroads I would like to get mine mostly complete before I croak.  I really love the prototype research and I like operation, but all the stuff in between like building models is not a big thrill although I am getting structures and scenery built.  Anyway I am looking for someone who assembles resin kits.  I have been sending kits to Pierre Oliver who does a really outstanding job but isn't getting them built as fast as I would like.  Is there someone else who assembles resin kits for pay?
 
Jared Harper
Athens, GA