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Re: Atlas/Branchline Sale

Jon Miller
 

On 3/1/2017 3:17 PM, 'C. Strickland' cstrickjr@... [STMFC] wrote:
Jon,   did you order online or telephone?  I was using online.

Online.  It gave me about 5/6 choices with USPS being the cheapest.  The actual cost was $7.03 for 6 Pullmans.

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Jon Miller
For me time stopped in 1941
Digitrax  Chief/Zephyr systems, 
SPROG, JMRI User
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Member SFRH&MS


Re: Atlas/Branchline Sale

C. Strickland <cstrickjr@...>
 

 
 
Jon,   did you order online or telephone?  I was using online.
 
Craig

On 3/1/2017 1:45 PM, 'C. Strickland' cstrickjr@... [STMFC] wrote:
UPS ground shipping, cheapest way, was $70.53 to Eastern NC

    I just bought 6 Pullmans for $7 shipping USPS (to CA).  I think you  are looking at something wrong.

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Jon Miller
For me time stopped in 1941
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Ribbed-Back Wheels

thecitrusbelt@...
 

I seem to recall reading somewhere the industry term for the ribs was brackets. Is this correct or was the long-forgotten source incorrect?

 

Thanks.

 

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: Atlas/Branchline Sale

Jon Miller
 

On 3/1/2017 1:45 PM, 'C. Strickland' cstrickjr@... [STMFC] wrote:
UPS ground shipping, cheapest way, was $70.53 to Eastern NC

    I just bought 6 Pullmans for $7 shipping USPS (to CA).  I think you  are looking at something wrong.

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Jon Miller
For me time stopped in 1941
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SPROG, JMRI User
NMRA Life member #2623
Member SFRH&MS


Re: Atlas/Branchline Sale

C. Strickland <cstrickjr@...>
 

 
 
I was going to place an order for 19 box cars.  The price, after discount was $70 and some change.  UPS ground shipping, cheapest way, was $70.53 to Eastern NC.  The shipping kind of kills the 75% discount deal!
 
Craig
 
 

It works now. Type KITBASH in caps and only on Branchline cars.

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David Fullerton
Doha, Qatar

 

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Re: Atlas/Branchline Sale

Jon Miller
 

On 3/1/2017 11:48 AM, David_Fullerton david.fullerton@... [STMFC] wrote:
And the price works out to be $7.99 for the Berwick cars (not steam era,
though).

    Might note that this applies to the passenger cars as well (Pullmans)!

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Jon Miller
For me time stopped in 1941
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Re: Atlas/Branchline Sale

David_Fullerton <david.fullerton@...>
 

And the price works out to be $7.99 for the Berwick cars (not steam era,
though).



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David Fullerton
Doha, Qatar

On March 1, 2017 at 3:46 PM "David_Fullerton david.fullerton@...
[STMFC]" <STMFC@...> wrote:

   

   It works now. Type KITBASH in caps and only on Branchline cars.

  ------------
  David Fullerton
  Doha, Qatar

   

  > On March 1, 2017 at 12:11 AM "Tim O'Connor @timboconnor [STMFC]"
  > <STMFC@...> wrote:
  >
  >   
  >
  >
  >  I was gonna say, 75% off is a smaller discount that I've seen
  >  on many Branchline kits... I've seen $10 passenger car kits many
  >  times over the past 5 years, including at the Amherst/Springfield
  >  show last month.
  >
  >  Tim O'Connor
  >
  >
  >
  >
  >      > > Just tried and would not give the discount.
  > >      Bill Vaughn
  > >
  > >  >
  >   
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Re: Atlas/Branchline Sale

David_Fullerton <david.fullerton@...>
 

It works now. Type KITBASH in caps and only on Branchline cars.


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David Fullerton
Doha, Qatar

On March 1, 2017 at 12:11 AM "Tim O'Connor @timboconnor [STMFC]"
<STMFC@...> wrote:

   


  I was gonna say, 75% off is a smaller discount that I've seen
  on many Branchline kits... I've seen $10 passenger car kits many
  times over the past 5 years, including at the Amherst/Springfield
  show last month.

  Tim O'Connor




      > > Just tried and would not give the discount.
      Bill Vaughn

  >

 
 


Re: PHOTO HELP NEEDED

Jim Hayes
 

Bill, if you mean NP 10000 series, Ted covered it in his Essential Freight Cars: 4 including pictures of both ends. Would you like a copy?

Jim

On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 10:48 AM, WILLIAM PARDIE PARDIEW001@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:
 


Morning All:

I am looking for a photo of the "B" end of the Northern Pacific 1000 series boxcars. I hope someone will be able to
help.

Thanks:

Bill Pardie



Re: Ban On Wood Running Boards

Tim O'Connor
 


I don't think wood running boards were ever -specifically- banned.
All running boards on new house cars ended in 1966 and were eventually
mandated to be removed from all cars that did not require roof access
(like cars with roof hatches). The most recent photo I have view of a car
with a wood running board is a 1974 shot of NP 27306, built by ACF in 1941.
The car was repainted in NP's billboard paint with the 96" herald but the
wood running board remained in place!

Tim O'Connor





I am not sure of the date, but I believe sometime after the cut-off date for this Group.

I have many photos from the 1960s of box cars still with wood running boards and some had been recently shopped.

Bob Witt


PHOTO HELP NEEDED

WILLIAM PARDIE
 

Morning All:

I am looking for a photo of the "B" end of the Northern Pacific 1000 series boxcars. I hope someone will be able to
help.

Thanks:

Bill Pardie


Re: early ORER's

Ted Culotta
 

Wow! When my ex-wife worked there, I could check out ORERs, bound Railway Ages, and reports of the Committee on Car Construction for 6 months at a time (her boss was the Dickens scholar so I was able to ogle original Dickens manuscripts, too, but couldn't check those out!)

Ted


Bureau of Mines /Minerals yearbook 1950

rwitt_2000
 

Allen Rueter wrote:  You might find this Bureau of Mines /Minerals yearbook 1950 interesting.

http://digicoll.library.wisc.edu/cgi-bin/EcoNatRes/EcoNatRes-idx?type=div&did=EcoNatRes.MinYB1950.WYoung&isize=XL

If one explores the "Sections" or "Contents" there is information on other minerals many still shipped by rail in 1950: e.g. cement, helium, carbon black, among others. All section are downloadable PDFs.

Bob Witt




Re: Ban On Wood Running Boards

rwitt_2000
 

I am not sure of the date, but I believe sometime after the cut-off date for this Group.

I have many photos from the 1960s of box cars still with wood running boards and some had been recently shopped.

Bob Witt


Re: Atlas/Branchline Sale

Bill Daniels <billinsf@...>
 

Just a thought... has anybody bothered to check with Atlas as to whether this is "fake news"?
 
Bill Daniels San Francisco, CA


On Tuesday, February 28, 2017 6:41 PM, "Andy Carlson midcentury@... [STMFC]" wrote:


 
I followed their directions, including inserting the coupon code word "kitbash" and after my time building a cart, the note came up that NONE of the Branchline items selected were available at the reduced price! What is going on! This just engenders animosity. GOOD LUCK, INDEED!
-Andy Carlson
Ojai CA



From: "fgexbill@... [STMFC]"
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 4:32 PM
Subject: [STMFC] Atlas/Branchline Sale

 
I don't know detail beyond this message via Facebook but "Atlas is running a sale, 75% off their Branchline kits, use the code "KITBASH" during checkout."

Good luck!

Bill Welch
 





Re: ORER's

dahminator68
 

Hello Mike and All:

Westerfield Models has all of our ORER Disks available on our website.


Thank you,
Andrew Dahm
westerfieldmodels@...


From: "mike barone fmikebarone@... [STMFC]"
To: STMFC
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 11:29 PM
Subject: [STMFC] Re: ORER's

 
Thanks to all who replied. I did try google a couple of weeks ago and now know why that did not work. I have sent a note to CSRM and hope to hear back in few days. Failing that source I'll keep Stanford in mind. Between Al Westerfields CD's and my copies I have most era's fairly well covered, big problem is years 1906 to 1914 during which a number of big changes occurred. 
Thanks again.
Mike Barone



Re: ORER's

mike barone
 

Thanks to all who replied. I did try google a couple of weeks ago and now know why that did not work. I have sent a note to CSRM and hope to hear back in few days. Failing that source I'll keep Stanford in mind. Between Al Westerfields CD's and my copies I have most era's fairly well covered, big problem is years 1906 to 1914 during which a number of big changes occurred. 
Thanks again.
Mike Barone


Re: Really interesting freight car photos today

Dennis Storzek
 




---In STMFC@..., <schuyler.larrabee@...> wrote :

Thanks, Dennis. I have a ’22 CBC, but it’s a little delicate and I’ve never wandered through the roof section. I’ll have to check that out.
==========================

Schuyler,

The drawings of the ARA standard lumber sections are on page 367 of the '22 CBC, in the first pages of the "Car Construction" section. The same drawing was reproduced in several other CBC's, 1931, I think, and 1940 for sure.

Dennis Storzek


Re: Atlas/Branchline Sale

Tim O'Connor
 


I was gonna say, 75% off is a smaller discount that I've seen
on many Branchline kits... I've seen $10 passenger car kits many
times over the past 5 years, including at the Amherst/Springfield
show last month.

Tim O'Connor



Just tried and would not give the discount.
Bill Vaughn


Re: Really interesting freight car photos today

Schuyler Larrabee
 

Thanks, Dennis. I have a ’22 CBC, but it’s a little delicate and I’ve never wandered through the roof section. I’ll have to check that out.



Schuyler



From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...]
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To: STMFC@...
Subject: RE: [STMFC] Really interesting freight car photos today









---In STMFC@..., <schuyler.larrabee@...> wrote :

Thanks, Dennis, I see what you are talking about. Always glad to be corrected when I screw up.

Were the drain grooves in the center of the boards? Seems unlikely that the roof would be made with chamfered boards, making the grooves where the joint is. One groove per board, or multiple?

Schuyler

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Well, this took some time. We had some discussion about double board roofs some time ago, and as I recall Jack Mullens posted a link to a diagram of the construction used by the Milwaukee Road. Rather than search for that, I thought I'd use the time to see if I could find an applicable MCB/ARA standard, or Recommended Practice. The ARA adopted standard lumber sections to be used in carbuilding in 1914, revised in 1920. The sections are illustrated in the 1922 CBC. I could not find illustrations from earlier, so can't say what was revised. As of 1920, the standard for "roofing and lining" was 1x4 or 1x6 boards, dressed 13/16" thick with tongue and groove edges, either 3-1/4" or 5-1/4" face. These did not have V grooves. This is what we are seeing on the left side of the roof in the photo.

The double board roof material was harder to track down, as it was apparently never made to any standard. However, illustrations appear in both the 1879 and 1895 Car Builder's Dictionary, both available on-line. Here is a link to the 1895 CBD:

https://books.google.com/books?id=0UJttWHSwNYC <https://books.google.com/books?id=0UJttWHSwNYC&pg=PP9#v=onepage&q&f=false> &pg=PP9#v=onepage&q&f=false

Unfortunately, There doesn't seem to be any way to link directly to the page. The illustration in question is Fig. 2379 on the bottom of page 205 of the file.

Briefly, the boards are square edge (no T&G) with a half round groove about 1" in from each edge. On the top layer these are intended to catch most (some) of the water sluicing across the roof, and channel it to the eave. The boards are laid up with a half board overlap, so what water seeps through the joint in the top layer ends up in the middle of the board below. As it spreads sideways, it comes to the half round grooves in the layer below, which channel it out to the eave, or so the theory goes.

Did it work? If it worked well, there never would have been a need to try to develop sheet metal coverings for freightcar roofs. But it did work well enough to be in common usage for three or four decades.

Dennis Storzek





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