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Re: Really interesting freight car photos today

gary laakso
 

When Great Northern created the wholly-owned subsidiary Western Fruit Express in 1923, their refrigerator cars were repainted and a much smaller full face herald was used.  I have not found many photos to confirm, but my guess would be that the re-paints came very fast. 

 

Gary Laakso

South of Mike Brock

 

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Hi Schuyler,

I find images 1427 and 1426 to be most interesting, as on the left side of the photo is a string of reefers, including one or two from the Great Northern.  What is unique to me is the GN goat herald on the reefer side.  That herald was common on box cars during that era, but did not realize it had also been applied to reefers.  Wonder how long that herald lasted into the 1920's?

Ted

At 10:32 AM 2/26/2017, you wrote:

http://lists.railfan.net/listthumb.cgi?erielack-02-26-17
 
In particular, image 1424.  Check out the roof in the foreground.  Hatches and different roofs on the two sides of the same car!
 
Schuyler

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Steam Era Freight Cars Reference Manual, Vol. 3 and FOFC re-prints

Ted Culotta
 

Apologies if you've received this elsewhere....

It's been about a decade since the last Steam Era Freight Cars Reference Manual was published. The wait is over. I am happy to announce the next volume in the series: Volume Three: Refrigerator Cars. Like the previous titles, it is intended to be a go-to reference to understand the major prototypes roaming the rails during the late Steam Era (1920s to the early 1950s). Information may be found at http://speedwitchmedia.com

There is a pre-order discount period that runs through March 10th.

For those who may have missed them, Focus on Freight Cars, Volume Three: Refrigerator Cars and Volume Four: Steel Box Cars, are being re-printed. There is a discounted pre-order for those two titles, as well.

Thank you.
Cheers,
Ted



Re: Really interesting freight car photos today

Ted Schnepf
 

Hi Schuyler,

I find images 1427 and 1426 to be most interesting, as on the left side of the photo is a string of reefers, including one or two from the Great Northern.  What is unique to me is the GN goat herald on the reefer side.  That herald was common on box cars during that era, but did not realize it had also been applied to reefers.  Wonder how long that herald lasted into the 1920's?

Ted

At 10:32 AM 2/26/2017, you wrote:


http://lists.railfan.net/listthumb.cgi?erielack-02-26-17
 
In particular, image 1424.  Check out the roof in the foreground.  Hatches and different roofs on the two sides of the same car!
 
Schuyler

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Re: steamerafreightcars.com - Updated 1932 ARA, 1937 AAR, Modified 19...

Greg Martin
 

Ed,
 
I am on AOL and my default browser is set for Google and it came through just fine.
 
I really appreciate all the time and energy you have put into this information. I have a couple of unfinished Athearn AAR boxcars that came to me from the Stan Rydariwzc estate and he did just the very basics to them. I want for step back a bit and perhaps remove the ends ala WESTRAILS thinking and upgrade it to some basic personal standards that I think Stan would have gone to. Stan over the years gave me several partially finished project that under scrutiny just didn't stand up, but not that there wasn't some genius in there, there was but he ran into an issue that made him stop.
 
These are fun projects that I will post to Shake N Take as they develop and perhaps in MRH under Mont and my byline "at the Bench"  or RMC under my old byline "jewels from the junk box" or "weekender projects" . This is all just to help promote folks to model again using the information you have provided.
 
 
Greg Martin    
 
Eventually all things merge into one and a river runs through it.
Norman Maclean
 

In a message dated 2/21/2017 10:09:59 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, STMFC@... writes:
Jim,
I Al need to figure out why the exact same PDFs that I sent to Rob had thin grid lines when I printed/saved them from Microsoft Excel spreadsheets appear much different when downloaded from the STMFC web site. The files I downloaded in 8 1/2  x 11 format have very thick grid lines, and the 11 x 17 tabloid files are nearly all black. 

All of this makes no sense to me. There an obvious incompatibility somewhere that needs fixing. I created the Excel files on an iMac using OS 10.9 & Excel 2011 upgraded recently to version 14.7.1. The Adobe Acrobat software I  using is 15.020.20042.

If anyone has ideas of how to generate these files so that anyone car download them and read them as intended with thin grid lines, please contact me Off List at hawk0621@.... 
Regards,
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Sunshine 44.4 X37B

Ted Culotta
 

Does anybody out there have a spare kit 44.4 PRR X37B that they'd care to part with? I'm a builder, not a collector, so I have to preface it by saying that I don't mind paying a premium, but I don't want it enough to pay collectors' prices! If anyone is so inclined, I'd also swap a built and weathered F&C X37 (although I just sent the decal artwork to be printed so it could be as much as 6-8 weeks before I can finish and send the completed F&C model). Thanks in advance.

Cheers,
Ted


Re: Really interesting freight car photos today

Charles Peck
 

One more step towards proving that there is a prototype for everything. Except molded on ladders and hand grabs I guess.
Chuck Peck in FL

On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 12:51 PM, Jon Miller atsfus@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:
 

On 2/26/2017 9:31 AM, 'Schuyler Larrabee' schuyler.larrabee@... [STMFC] wrote:
And BTW, I meant No. 1425, not 1424.  Even wrote the number down so I'd get
it right and then posted it incorrectly.  Some days . . .

 Schuyler

    If one modeled that car it would get a lot of comments (grin)!

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Re: Really interesting freight car photos today

Jon Miller
 

On 2/26/2017 9:31 AM, 'Schuyler Larrabee' schuyler.larrabee@... [STMFC] wrote:
And BTW, I meant No. 1425, not 1424.  Even wrote the number down so I'd get
it right and then posted it incorrectly.  Some days . . .

 Schuyler

    If one modeled that car it would get a lot of comments (grin)!

-- 
Jon Miller
For me time stopped in 1941
Digitrax  Chief/Zephyr systems, 
SPROG, JMRI User
NMRA Life member #2623
Member SFRH&MS


Re: Decal tips

Gary Ray
 

Eric,

 

Thanks for posting the tips.  I enjoy reading your blogs.

 

Gary Ray

 

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Subject: [STMFC] Decal tips

 




After painting a few models recently, it was time to apply decals. A few tips are shared in the latest DesignBuildOp blog post.

 

http://designbuildop.hansmanns.org/2017/02/26/fresh-decals/

 

 

 

Eric Hansmann

El Paso, TX





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Re: Really interesting freight car photos today

Schuyler Larrabee
 

But Gary, look at the roof itself. Left side, wood boards, right side,
Viking!



I agree that the hatches were originally the same, but now that I see the
roof's been replaced/rebuilt, maybe one of these (probably the one on the
right) is a rebuilt/replacement hatch.



And BTW, I meant No. 1425, not 1424. Even wrote the number down so I'd get
it right and then posted it incorrectly. Some days . . .



Schuyler



Schuyler: You found a really great picture! Thank you for sharing it.
It appears that both hatches were originally 7 boards wide with the one on
the grab iron side having ages with heavy use with all the hardware loose,
perhaps accelerated from the loss of the catch board that would hold the
hatch before it slammed onto the roof. I think that they are the same
hatches, just at different ages of use. If there is any paint left over on
the roof, it sure appears to have fallen off the car.



Gary Laakso

South of Mike Brock



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Subject: [STMFC] Really interesting freight car photos today





http://lists.railfan.net/listthumb.cgi?erielack-02-26-17



In particular, image 1424. Check out the roof in the foreground. Hatches
and different roofs on the two sides of the same car!



Schuyler


Re: Really interesting freight car photos today

gary laakso
 

Schuyler:  You found a really great picture!  Thank you for sharing it.    It appears that both hatches were originally 7 boards wide with the one on the grab iron side having ages with heavy use with all the hardware loose, perhaps accelerated from the loss of the catch board that would hold the hatch before it slammed onto the roof.  I think that they are the same hatches, just at different ages of use.  If there is any paint left over on the roof, it sure appears to have fallen off the car. 

 

Gary Laakso

South of Mike Brock

 

From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...]
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2017 11:33 AM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: [STMFC] Really interesting freight car photos today

 

 

http://lists.railfan.net/listthumb.cgi?erielack-02-26-17

 

In particular, image 1424.  Check out the roof in the foreground.  Hatches and different roofs on the two sides of the same car!

 

Schuyler

 


Really interesting freight car photos today

Schuyler Larrabee
 

http://lists.railfan.net/listthumb.cgi?erielack-02-26-17

 

In particular, image 1424.  Check out the roof in the foreground.  Hatches and different roofs on the two sides of the same car!

 

Schuyler

 


Re: Tichy USRA underframe 3019

Justin May
 

I just measured my GA USRA rebuild and it is 4.310" or 31.28 scale feet in HO.  Within my error of measurement, that's pretty spot on for the 31' 1.5" from the drawing of the USRA boxcar.


Bruce,
Thank you. This is exactly what I needed to get rolling on a project using this part.

Justin May 


Decal tips

Eric Hansmann
 

After painting a few models recently, it was time to apply decals. A few tips are shared in the latest DesignBuildOp blog post.

 

http://designbuildop.hansmanns.org/2017/02/26/fresh-decals/

 

 

 

Eric Hansmann

El Paso, TX


Re: Chipping Fluid

StephenK
 

The totally cheap and easy way to do this is to use salt weathering.   Paint the plow (or whatever) the metal color that you want to have show through.   Let dry.   Mist the part with plain water and sprinkle a little salt where you want the chips to be.   For HO scale, I use kosher salt (it is coarser).   You can make some final adjustments with tweezers, then let the water/salt dry.   Then spray the finish coat on.   Let dry, and then  knock the salt crystals off.   Result: nicely chipped paint.   Cost, pretty close to nothing.

Steve Kay


Re: Chipping Fluid

Rich C
 

I have used the liquid Frisket medium (Hobby Lobby or Michael's) with some good results. Does not have the sticky residue that masking tape can create.

Rich Christie


On Friday, February 24, 2017 9:27 PM, "Bill Keene wakeene@... [STMFC]" wrote:


 
Hello Garth,

Please be sure to report on the results of your efforts with the Tattered Angels paint system.

… After you complete the population of people, of course. 

Cheers & Happy Modeling,
Bill Keene
Irvine, CA

On Feb 24, 2017, at 6:17 PM, Garth Groff sarahsan@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:


Bruce and Tim,
I recently picked up a "Tattered Angels Naturally Aged Paint System, Bare Metal" set at Joann Fabrics. It consists of four bottles of some sort of liquid pigments, including bare metal, rust, and two different "glimmer mists". I thought this might be a good way to do snow plows, bulldozer blades, skip loader buckets, etc. No I haven't tried it yet. I'm too busy painting O-scale people right now.
Yours Aye,

Garth Groff

On 2/24/17 4:41 PM, Tim O'Connor timboconnor@... [STMFC] wrote:
 
Bruce

I've used masking tape as you describe, but it can get tricky and can
potentially lift up decals or paint. So either way works but I was thinking
that the brushing on hairspray might be both faster and less likely to cause
any problems. But masking tape is still preferred if you need to make a
precise shape like a rectangle or circle.

I've seen spreader blades with a wide area of rust and then a more recent
smaller area of bright shiny steel!

Fun stuff to try. :-)

Tim







Re: Tichy USRA underframe 3019

Bruce Smith
 

​Justin,


I just measured my GA USRA rebuild and it is 4.310" or 31.28 scale feet in HO.  Within my error of measurement, that's pretty spot on for the 31' 1.5" from the drawing of the USRA boxcar.


Regards

Bruce

Bruce Smith

Auburn, AL


From: STMFC@... on behalf of Justin May westpointroute@... [STMFC]
Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2017 9:23 AM
To: STMFC
Subject: [STMFC] Tichy USRA underframe 3019
 


Can anyone provide the truck center distance of the Tichy USRA underframe? 


Thank you,
Justin May



Tichy USRA underframe 3019

Justin May
 

Can anyone provide the truck center distance of the Tichy USRA underframe? 


Thank you,
Justin May


Re: Steam era freight cars made it into the UK Daily Mail

ed_mines
 

My father was born in 1924 and lived in Manhattan until 1936. I've heard about these cowboys more than once.


I've always wondered about actual livestock going into Manhattan. From the Jersey side of the Hudson you can see what appears to be stock chutes in Haarlem.


Ditto for the boro/county of Queens. The windowless Swift building near the Long Island Railroad station in Jamaica was/is huge.


Ed Mines



All enhanced SP & C&O kits are sold

Andy Carlson
 

Thanks
-Andy Carlson
Ojai CA


Re: Chipping Fluid

Bill Keene <wakeene@...>
 

Hello Garth,

Please be sure to report on the results of your efforts with the Tattered Angels paint system.

… After you complete the population of people, of course. 

Cheers & Happy Modeling,
Bill Keene
Irvine, CA

On Feb 24, 2017, at 6:17 PM, Garth Groff sarahsan@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:


Bruce and Tim,

I recently picked up a "Tattered Angels Naturally Aged Paint System, Bare Metal" set at Joann Fabrics. It consists of four bottles of some sort of liquid pigments, including bare metal, rust, and two different "glimmer mists". I thought this might be a good way to do snow plows, bulldozer blades, skip loader buckets, etc. No I haven't tried it yet. I'm too busy painting O-scale people right now.

Yours Aye,


Garth Groff


On 2/24/17 4:41 PM, Tim O'Connor timboconnor@... [STMFC] wrote:
 

Bruce

I've used masking tape as you describe, but it can get tricky and can
potentially lift up decals or paint. So either way works but I was thinking
that the brushing on hairspray might be both faster and less likely to cause
any problems. But masking tape is still preferred if you need to make a
precise shape like a rectangle or circle.

I've seen spreader blades with a wide area of rust and then a more recent
smaller area of bright shiny steel!

Fun stuff to try. :-)

Tim