Re: Water Plugs
Patrick Wade
My best guess is that the bell shaped dome covers an overflow water outlet. Pat Wade Santa Barbara, CA
On Thu, Jul 6, 2017 at 1:31 PM, thecitrusbelt@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:
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Re: General Electric Tank Car
Bill Welch
I see Five outlets. Although built by AC&F, it is not one of their underframes.
Bill Welch
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Re: General Electric Tank Car
Eric Hansmann
Might this GE tank car carry granular material of some sort? I see three receptacles at the running board that might be used for unloading. I think the Barrett Company had some tank cars to haul granules, too.
Eric Hansmann Murfreesboro, TN
From:
STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...]
This car has a somewhat unusual arrangement of hatches(?) along the top of the tank. What are these if not hatches and what commodities would have been carried in such cars?
https://www.flickr.com/photos/barrigerlibrary/24794887695/in/dateposted/
Thanks.
Bob Chaparro Hemet, CA
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General Electric Tank Car
thecitrusbelt@...
This car has a somewhat unusual arrangement of hatches(?) along the top of the tank. What are these if not hatches and what commodities would have been carried in such cars?
https://www.flickr.com/photos/barrigerlibrary/24794887695/in/dateposted/
Thanks.
Bob Chaparro
Hemet, CA
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Water Plugs
thecitrusbelt@...
In several photos featuring water plugs I've noticed small structures on top of the plugs that resemble bells:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/barrigerlibrary/19332568801/in/dateposted/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/barrigerlibrary/19142211449/in/dateposted/
Are these bells or merely items that resemble bells?
Thanks.
Bob Chaparro
Hemet, CA
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Re: New York Central's "USRA" Steel Boxcar Roofs
John Barry
Thanks, I needed to scroll down to see that. Too new for me in 44 though. John Barry ATSF North Bay Lines Golden Gates & Fast Freights Lovettsville, VA 707-490-9696 PO Box 44736 Washington, DC 20026-4736
From: "j.markwart@... [STMFC]" To: STMFC@... Sent: Thursday, July 6, 2017 6:17 AM Subject: Aw: Re: [STMFC] New York Central's "USRA" Steel Boxcar Roofs John,
tha car just in front of #120552 has a diagonal panel roof.
Johannes
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 06. Juli 2017 um 12:07 Uhr
Von: "John Barry northbaylines@... [STMFC]" An: "STMFC@..." Betreff: Re: [STMFC] New York Central's "USRA" Steel Boxcar Roofs Ben,
I see lots of NYC cars, but didn't see any diagonal panels, did I miss something.
John Barry
ATSF North Bay Lines
Golden Gates & Fast Freights
Lovettsville, VA
707-490-9696
PO Box 44736
Washington, DC 20026-4736
From: "Benjamin Hom b.hom@... [STMFC]" To: "STMFC@..." Sent: Wednesday, July 5, 2017 10:24 PM Subject: Re: [STMFC] New York Central's "USRA" Steel Boxcar Roofs Bill Welch asked:
"I know that many of the NYC's USRA cars received a rectangular panel roof to replace the original roof. Were any of these rebuilt with the Diagonal Panel roof?" I wrote: "Absolutely. The Broadway Limited model represents these cars. Here's proof of both roofs: http://www.steamerafreightcars.com/gallery/shot%20of%20mo/shotofmonthmain.html This time with direct link: Ben Hom
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Re: Chicagoland RPM Minikit - 2016
David Jobe, Sr.
Fortunately, the event booklet is in the Archive section of the web site. Here is the direct link to the booklet; http://www.rpmconference.com/index.php/2016-rpm-program-complete/ . The Mini-Kit is covered on pages 12 to 19 for both the HO and N scale versions.
Save a copy and enjoy!
David Jobe, Sr. Saint Ann, Missouri
From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...]
Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2017 7:38 AM To: STMFC@... Subject: Re: [STMFC] Chicagoland RPM Minikit - 2016
Bill, IIRC, there were instructions for the 2016 RPM Chicagoland mini-kit in the last part of the event booklet. This was available as a PDF file on this site but I think it has been removed as the crew moves the 2017 event forward. There are a number of in-process images on the RPM Chicagoland forum. Here's a link to that thread. http://www.rpmconference.com/forum/index.php?threads/2016-mini-kit-thread-b-o-m-15k.2/
Eric Hansmann Murfreesboro, TN
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FW: ADMIN: Restoration of Berriger Library photos
Bill McGuire sent the following message which contains information regarding
assistance in restoring photos in the Berriger collection. Mike Brock From: Bill McGuire [mailto:bmcguire@mymts.net] Sent: Wednesday, July 5, 2017 9:57 PM To: brockm@cfl.rr.com Subject: Re: ADMIN: Restoration of Berriger Library photos HI Mike. I met Nick Fry the curator of the Barriger collection last Oct. at Chicagoland where he made a presentation. I spoke to him about the CPR and CNR photos. Many were reversed and many had no location. I sent a message to the CPR sig forum and asked the members to send info to him regarding the location and reversal of any negs that they spotted. Several members sent in info which he used to update these negatives. I think that the information that members of this group possess, would go a long way in making these priceless photos even more valuable. Members should contact Nick and I am sure the negs will be updated. e-mail = fryn@umsl.edu Regards, Bill McGuire
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Re: [Non-DoD Source] PRR "Merchandise Service"
Tony Thompson
Jerry Michels wrote:
Not true for the SP. They had "merchandise" Overnight cars before WW II, a service suspended during the war, and re-started with the addition of new cars in 1946. The overnight package service continued until 1959, which, if my arithmetic is right, is more than five years. Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA 2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com (510) 540-6538; e-mail, tony@... Publishers of books on railroad history
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Re: Photos From The Barriger Library: Cease & Desist?
richard glueck
Keep posting. We never know enough. Dick
On Wednesday, July 5, 2017 5:40 PM, "Brian Termunde GCRDS@... [STMFC]" wrote: Bob,
While I don't look at even most of the links, I greatly value all of those that I do look at! You have, on occasion, posted them to multiple groups (such as the Citrus Group), and I am not bothered in the least by these 'duplicate' postings as they are ALL relevant to those groups and it makes sense to post on them.
There are a LOT of great photos on that site, and frankly, at this time, I really don't have the time to go through them, so you are doing me a GREAT favor by posting the links (I've looked at two so far today, and have saved others to look at later). And I've learned quite a bit, thank you very much.
Please, keep posting them, I too appreciate it. Mr. Hancock, very respectfully, might I suggest the delete key? I do use it quite a bit myself when the subject matter doesn't appeal to me, even though the topic is on topic.
Take Care,
Brian R. Termunde
Midvale, Utah
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From: STMFC To: STMFC Sent: Wed, Jul 5, 2017 11:53 am Subject: [STMFC] Digest Number 10991 There are 15 messages in this issue. _____________________________________________________________________ 2d. Re: Photos From The Barriger Library: Cease & Desist? Posted by: "Charles Peck" lnnrr152@... lnnrr Date: Wed Jul 5, 2017 9:41 am ((PDT)) Mr. Haycock does not speak for me. I appreciate the photos and discussions as I can never learn too much. Even what I thought I knew can be reaffirmed or corrected. Chuck Peck
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Re: Chicagoland RPM Minikit - 2016
Eric Hansmann
Bill, IIRC, there were instructions for the 2016 RPM Chicagoland mini-kit in the last part of the event booklet. This was available as a PDF file on this site but I think it has been removed as the crew moves the 2017 event forward. There are a number of in-process images on the RPM Chicagoland forum. Here's a link to that thread. http://www.rpmconference.com/forum/index.php?threads/2016-mini-kit-thread-b-o-m-15k.2/ Eric Hansmann Murfreesboro, TN On July 5, 2017 at 6:57 PM "William Darnaby wdarnaby@... [STMFC]" <STMFC@...> wrote: Eric Hansmann
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Re: Chicagoland RPM Minikit - 2016
Thanks Bob, I was lucky enough to receive one of the kits and have built it. I'll check out the site to see how I did. A fun kit and thanks to the people who thought it up and made it happen. Fenton
On Jul 5, 2017, at 8:37 PM, chapbob611@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:
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Re: New York Central's "USRA" Steel Boxcar Roofs
Benjamin Hom
John Barry asked: "I see lots of NYC cars, but didn't see any diagonal panels, did I miss something." It's right under your nose. First car in the cut on the left in the foreground. Ben Hom
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Re: New York Central's "USRA" Steel Boxcar Roofs
vapeurchapelon
John,
tha car just in front of #120552 has a diagonal panel roof.
Johannes
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 06. Juli 2017 um 12:07 Uhr
Von: "John Barry northbaylines@... [STMFC]" An: "STMFC@..." Betreff: Re: [STMFC] New York Central's "USRA" Steel Boxcar Roofs
Ben,
I see lots of NYC cars, but didn't see any diagonal panels, did I miss something.
John Barry
ATSF North Bay Lines
Golden Gates & Fast Freights
Lovettsville, VA
707-490-9696
PO Box 44736
Washington, DC 20026-4736
From: "Benjamin Hom b.hom@... [STMFC]" To: "STMFC@..." Sent: Wednesday, July 5, 2017 10:24 PM Subject: Re: [STMFC] New York Central's "USRA" Steel Boxcar Roofs Bill Welch asked:
"I know that many of the NYC's USRA cars received a rectangular panel roof to replace the original roof. Were any of these rebuilt with the Diagonal Panel roof?" I wrote: "Absolutely. The Broadway Limited model represents these cars. Here's proof of both roofs: http://www.steamerafreightcars.com/gallery/shot%20of%20mo/shotofmonthmain.html This time with direct link: Ben Hom
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Re: New York Central's "USRA" Steel Boxcar Roofs
John Barry
Ben, I see lots of NYC cars, but didn't see any diagonal panels, did I miss something. John Barry ATSF North Bay Lines Golden Gates & Fast Freights Lovettsville, VA 707-490-9696 PO Box 44736 Washington, DC 20026-4736
From: "Benjamin Hom b.hom@... [STMFC]" To: "STMFC@..." Sent: Wednesday, July 5, 2017 10:24 PM Subject: Re: [STMFC] New York Central's "USRA" Steel Boxcar Roofs Bill Welch asked: "I know that many of the NYC's USRA cars received a rectangular panel roof to replace the original roof. Were any of these rebuilt with the Diagonal Panel roof?" I wrote: "Absolutely. The Broadway Limited model represents these cars. Here's proof of both roofs: http://www.steamerafreightcars.com/gallery/shot%20of%20mo/shotofmonthmain.html This time with direct link: Ben Hom
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Re: New York Central's "USRA" Steel Boxcar Roofs
Benjamin Hom
Bill Welch asked: "I know that many of the NYC's USRA cars received a rectangular panel roof to replace the original roof. Were any of these rebuilt with the Diagonal Panel roof?" I wrote: "Absolutely. The Broadway Limited model represents these cars. Here's proof of both roofs: http://www.steamerafreightcars.com/gallery/shot%20of%20mo/shotofmonthmain.html This time with direct link: Ben Hom
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Re: New York Central's "USRA" Steel Boxcar Roofs
Benjamin Hom
Bill Welch asked: "I know that many of the NYC's USRA cars received a rectangular panel roof to replace the original roof. Were any of these rebuilt with the Diagonal Panel roof?" Absolutely. The Broadway Limited model represents these cars. Here's proof of both roofs: Ben Hom
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Re: Equalized Trucks in HO
Matt Goodman
Hey Jim, I came across springing knowledge in a different context, but I think it is applicable here. An unwrapped coil spring is nothing more than a long rod. The longer the rod, the easier it is to bend due to greater leverage. When a spring is shortened, you’ve reduced the length of the lever, so it’s rate - the force required to bend it a given amount - increases. My guess - since cutting the spring solved the problem - is that the uncut spring was coil-binding. Coil binding occurs when a coil spring is compressed enough that all the coils come in contact with one another - becoming essentially a solid cylinder. The cut spring would still expand enough to span the distance between the screw and truck bolster, but would have a lot more air between the coils. Just a guess though! Matt Goodman Columbus, Ohio, US
On Jul 4, 2017, at 11:57 AM, jimbetz@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote: Matt, That's true ... but when the spring is considerably compressed then isn't it the -distance- in the number of turns that comes in to play more than simply the number turns? I do know this - when I cut the spring in half it created less pressure on the truck which created less pressure on the bolster which made it a truck that was more likely to rock/tilt on the bolster. Perhaps I just got lucky and hit that magic point where the spring is just right and it is only pressing on the truck+bolster joint when it is significantly rocked ... *G* - Jim B.
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New York Central's "USRA" Steel Boxcar Roofs
Bill Welch
I know that many of the NYC's USRA cars received a rectangular panel roof to replace the original roof. Were any of these rebuilt with the Diagonal Panel roof?
Bill Welch
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Re: Flood of 1913 photos from Dayton Metro Library
Eric Hansmann
Thanks for the catch, Bob! I forgot to check the side sill. BTW, I found a B&O M-11 in another image with a neat C&O car, too. That may become a blog post. Eric Hansmann Murfreesboro. TN On July 5, 2017 at 2:35 PM "rwitt_2000@... [STMFC]" <STMFC@...> wrote: Eric Hansmann
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