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Automobile Engine Unloading

thecitrusbelt@...
 

These 1958 photos just make it into the group's era. Captions state the engines are being unloaded at a Lincoln-Mercury plant. The source of the photos was Merge Studios in Los Angeles so the location probably is Southern California.

 

Ford operated a plant in Pico Rivera (1957-1980), a suburb southeast of Los Angeles, served by the Santa Fe. I am unaware of another Ford plant in the area other than Ford's Long Beach plant, which closed in 1959.

 

http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibris/aleph/a21_1/apache_media/T8DTUN8QLI1G6QA3P7QX182MBV1MEN.jpg

 

http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibris/aleph/a21_1/apache_media/PRLBRXSE4YTD94GAMBGA7F4JXI2EUK.jpg

 

http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibris/aleph/a21_1/apache_media/YGB2KC52ILVK3EVGQJSREA12E91V8H.jpg

 

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: Lehigh wrong way door boxcar paint color.

Layout Tour
 

I’ve known Lee for some time and if you look at the LV car photos on Ted’s website I think you’ll agree his weathering techniques are fantastic.  His detailed finishing instructions left out one thing.  His favorite base color for LV freight cars is MM British Crimson.  For wood sided cars he mixes it with white (about 20%) to get the pinkish shade and for steel sides with some light gray and yellow.  I have 5 LV Proto 2000 steel cabooses I’m modifying now and will be using variations on the mix on them.  I also have another F&C Wrong way Boxcar kit to do and will try his recommendation for the roof.

 

Chuck Davis

Norfolk VA


BLI 6,000 gal. tank car

Don Valentine <riverman_vt@...>
 

Hi folks,

Yesterday through an act of kindness by another STMFC member I received one of Broadway
Limited's new ACF Type 27 6,000 gal. tank cars decorated for the Brown Co., owners and
operators of a now defunct large paper mill two hours away in Berlin, NH. In spite of some of
the comments on this list several yeas ago when BLI introduced their NYC steel boxcar I
expected to receive at least a fine and usable model. Upon opening the package and viewing
the car I was not disappointed. Frankly, I never accepted the criticism leveled at the BLI NYC
boxcar too seriously and, thus, will be interested to see what the ultimate comments regarding
this new BLI tank car will amount to.

I have also always appreciated the Atlas 11 gal. chemical car most often seen in LNG or LPG
service. The Atlas car is basically a very usable model and has been offered in several new runs
with different paint and lettering styles over the years. Many of these have been documented as
models or cars seen within New England in the post war era. Thus they have been of enough
interest to me that I have a couple dozen of them. About the only prototype version commonly
seen in New England that Atlas has not offered yet are cars lettered for Phillips LPG service.
I have not yet found as many of the new BLI cars that I can document as having been used in
New England but continue to seek such material. The Brown Co. car, however, I am certain of
and know that the company had additional cars as well though none seem to be exact duplicates.
Again more research is necessary. But to me the Brown Co. car is a little jewel. I really like the
frame and feel it makes the overall model a bit better than the older design Atlas car. Again YMMV.
when one puts the BLI model next to an Atlas model the difference in size really stands out! It does
so in a way that to me at least heightens the impression of both models. Thus I am hopeful that
other New England based users of these really nice prototypes can be found and documented as
I'd really like to add more of them to the fleet. If we all saw as many new rolling stock models as
we have seen in various locomotive models introduced over the last few years I'm afraid the few of
us could afford as many as they would like. This is just another reason I am quite happy with the
effort BLI has made in producing this outstanding now model. It has plenty of weight as well.

Just one modelers' opinion, Don Valentine


Re: B&O Boxcar 275057

David
 

The initial 1923 proposal didn't get enough votes to pass the first time around, so some revisions were made and it passed in 1924. The changes were fairly minor (truck centers were reduced from 32'6" to 32'3", for example).

PRR kept the 5' striker length, but most other roads went to 5'6" after 1927.

David Thompson


Ebay brass freight train cars

Tim O'Connor
 

Some new brass auctions

ORIENTAL SP Southern Pacific A-50-10 single sheathed automobile box car painted

http://www.ebay.com/itm/322522704409

Overland OMI 3134 ACF insulated single dome high pressure tank car painted

http://www.ebay.com/itm/322522727290

Challenger CIL 2385.1 CB&Q ACF 50 ton Hart Select Service hopper factory painted

http://www.ebay.com/itm/322522741378

WP CAR SP Southern Pacific PFE express refrigerator car painted

http://www.ebay.com/itm/322522714934

Challenger CIL 2407.1 SP Southern Pacific C-40-3 caboose trailer flatcar service

http://www.ebay.com/itm/322522748535

Overland OMI 4245.1 CRI&P Rock Island International wide vision caboose #17011

http://www.ebay.com/itm/322522762082

not a "freight car", but maintenance of way, so ... ?

Overland OMI 4311.1 NP Northern Pacific rail defect detector car set painted

http://www.ebay.com/itm/322522821481

Thanks for looking!

Tim O'Connor


Re: B&O Boxcar 275057

Tim O'Connor
 

David

Rejected??

Many railroads owned cars with the 1923 rivet pattern. Again from
Chris Barkan - ARA 1923: B&O, (M-26, M-26A, M-26C, M-26D, M-26E),
  B&M, CNJ, Ga. Northern, LNE, MEC

Then came the PRR X29 in 1924 - also used by the B&O M-26B, and W&LE

Then, the PRR X29 1928 revision. You're saying this was the first to
use the 5'6" bolster to striker distance?

Tim O'Connor





The 5' striker was a feature of the 1924 ARA designs, and was revised to 5'6" in 1927. As a side note, the original M26 (no suffix) was based on the rejected 1923 proposal.

David Thompson


Re: B&O Boxcar 275057

David
 

The 5' striker was a feature of the 1924 ARA designs, and was revised to 5'6" in 1927. As a side note, the original M26 (no suffix) was based on the rejected 1923 proposal.

David Thompson


Re: B&O Boxcar 275057

David
 

"The name changed again to Pullman-Standard Car Manufacturing Co. in 1929 with the merger with Standard Steel Car Co."

The merger was in 1934.

David Thompson


Re: Lehigh wrong way door boxcar paint color.

Scott
 

Thank you Ted!

The O scale LV car is stunning on your website. Cars like that make it hard to stay with HO scale.

Thanks again,
Scott


Re: Schnabel Car article

Jeff Shultz <jeff@...>
 

I don't know if you consider 1989 to be a few years ago or not:
http://www.olimpia.com:8084/ListIssue?issue_id=3140  - index entry for Sept 89 RMC. 

On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 4:03 PM, Richard Townsend richtownsend@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:
 

A few years ago there was an article in, I believe, RMC about kitbashing a Schnabel car from a Kibri kit. I seem to have lost my copy and am wondering if anyone can provide me with a scan of the article.
 
Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, OR
 




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Re: HO Factory built P2K black 8K gallon tank cars APCO

Barry Kenner
 

Hello Andy,
       I would be interested in purchasing the cars. Thanks, Barry
 

From: Andy Carlson midcentury@... [STMFC]
Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 10:39 AM
To: stmfc@...
Subject: [STMFC] HO Factory built P2K black 8K gallon tank cars APCO
 
 



Hello-
I have a new six pack, still in factory shrink-wrap, of  Life-Like P2K 8000 gallon tank cars in the all-black APCO Petroleum scheme. I found several pictures by Binging, or you can ask for a scanned picture of one I found from Ebay.
 
APOX #8224; #8265; #8282; #8307; #8344; #8371.
 
These are factory built (assembled) HO tank cars. Offered for $130 for the six pack, plus shipping of $14 by USPS Priority mail.
 
I accept checks and money orders. With a small fee I also accept PayPal. If interested, please contact me off-list @  Thanks,
-Andy Carlson, Ojai CA



Schnabel Car article

Richard Townsend
 

A few years ago there was an article in, I believe, RMC about kitbashing a Schnabel car from a Kibri kit. I seem to have lost my copy and am wondering if anyone can provide me with a scan of the article.
 
Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, OR
 


Re: Shipping Coal - How Far?

Aley, Jeff A
 

A month ago, Randy posted the following:

 

Arkansas - (Products of Mines other than Petroleum 1950)

CA - 50,000 tons 

OR - 200,000 tons

WA - none listed

 

I presume that a significant part (majority?) of the production from AR was bauxite, a lot of which was shipped to OR to be turned into aluminum.

 

Regards,

 

-Jeff

 

 

From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...]
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2017 4:38 PM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: [STMFC] Re: Shipping Coal - How Far?

 

 

I didn't look at Arkansas or Montana in my other post. This book only tabulates totals of at least 10,000 tons, so smaller amounts won't be included. In the case of mining products the threshold is 50,000 tons.

 

Arkansas - (Products of Mines other than Petroleum 1950)

CA - 50,000 tons 

OR - 200,000 tons

WA - none listed

 

Montana (Products of Mines 1950, so it includes petroleum this time)

WA - 100,000 tons

CA - 350,000 tons

OR - none listed

 

Randy

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Railway Age July 03 1937

Fred Jansz
 

Hi all,
I'd like to model a WP 19001-19050 dd boxcar from a Sunshine 64.18 kit w. Hutchins steel ends.
Railway Age July 03 (?) 1937 cover has a picture of this seldomly pictured WP car. There's one blurry picture of part of the car in a book, plus I have a blurry jpg from the internet of this 1937 RA cover. So the Q is: maybe someone has this issue in his collection and maybe he would be willing to make a (sharp) scan, so I can see the details involved? Thanks for your kind cooperation.
best regards,
Fred Jansz



Re: Lehigh wrong way door boxcar paint color.

Ted Schnepf
 

Hi Scott,

Both the LV cars shown on my website:  http://railsunlimited.ribbonrail.com/Models/40boxcars.html, were built by Lee Turner.  He is a respected LV modeler.  I trust his choice of color for the models.  Here is Lee's instructions for painting the car as posted on the website.

The roofs on these cars were either never painted or the paint just would not stick to the galvanized roof panels. An existing car in Coplay, Pa shows the roof to be in sound condition with little rust after almost eighty years of exposure to the elements. The wood sides on these cars faded to almost a shade of pink with the steel doors and ends becoming slightly darker due to exposure.

The suggested finishing begins with painting the under frame a shade of brownish grey about a 50/50 mix of earth and dark brown color. Adding
more dark rusty brown to the same mixture paint the trucks and go back over the steel portions of the under frame. Spray a light coat on the cars ends and steel doors, this will show through a couple of light coats of the body color and make the steel portions of the car body appear a shade or two darker than the wood. The red oxide carbody color is sprayed on the sides and ends being careful not to get too much overspray on the underbody. During this stage of the finishing keep the car mounted on a pair of shop trucks, old trucks that are used while painting and can be swapped out for the painted and weathered trucks at the end. Mask the sides, ends and running boards and spray the roof with Testors Acrylic steel.


Also realize that wood prototypes faded to many different shades.

Ted


At 03:16 PM 5/18/2017, you wrote:
I have completed an F & C Lehigh wrong way boxcar and its ready for the paint shop.  The instructions call for boxcar red but the photos on the website the car appears a lot more red.  I looked at Rails Unlimited O scale version and it is pretty pretty red too.

I have Scalecoat 2 Boxcar red #2 it is more of a burgundy.  Red oxide is pretty bright but a little closer.

Anybody have any suggestions.

Thanks
Scott McDonald

Rails Unlimited
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WESTERFIELD MODELS Newsletter, Vol 6, No 2a, May, 2017

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Re: [1914to1940RRing] RE: [resinfreightcars] Reading composite mll gondola

Eric Hansmann
 

Thanks, David!

This is a good model to use as a first resin kit assembly. The instructions are meh, but it's not a complex build. There were a decent quantity of prototypes and they lasted through WWII. It covers several bases for many modelers.


Eric Hansmann

El Paso, TX



On May 19, 2017 at 8:19 AM "'David Jobe, Sr.' tangerine_flyer@... [1914to1940RRing]" <1914to1940RRing@...> wrote:



Excellent work Eric!  And, a great write up to inspire others.

 

David Jobe, Sr.

Saint Ann, Missouri

 

From: resinfreightcars@... [mailto:resinfreightcars@...]
Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 6:37 AM
To: 1914to1940RRingr@...; resinfreightcars@...; proto-layouts@...; STMFC YahooGroup
Subject: [resinfreightcars] Reading composite mll gondola

 




Some models take time to complete. I recently pushed an HO scale resin model across the finish line that was started nearly nine years ago. Check out the details on the DesignBuildOp blog! 

 

http://designbuildop.hansmanns.org/2017/05/19/reading-composite-mill-gondola/

 

 

 

Eric Hansmann
El Paso, TX




 



HO Factory built P2K black 8K gallon tank cars APCO

Andy Carlson
 



Hello-
I have a new six pack, still in factory shrink-wrap, of  Life-Like P2K 8000 gallon tank cars in the all-black APCO Petroleum scheme. I found several pictures by Binging, or you can ask for a scanned picture of one I found from Ebay.

APOX #8224; #8265; #8282; #8307; #8344; #8371.

These are factory built (assembled) HO tank cars. Offered for $130 for the six pack, plus shipping of $14 by USPS Priority mail.

I accept checks and money orders. With a small fee I also accept PayPal. If interested, please contact me off-list @ 
-Andy Carlson, Ojai CA



Re: [resinfreightcars] Reading composite mll gondola

David Jobe, Sr.
 

Excellent work Eric!  And, a great write up to inspire others.

 

David Jobe, Sr.

Saint Ann, Missouri

 

From: resinfreightcars@... [mailto:resinfreightcars@...]
Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 6:37 AM
To: 1914to1940RRingr@...; resinfreightcars@...; proto-layouts@...; STMFC YahooGroup
Subject: [resinfreightcars] Reading composite mll gondola

 




Some models take time to complete. I recently pushed an HO scale resin model across the finish line that was started nearly nine years ago. Check out the details on the DesignBuildOp blog! 

 

http://designbuildop.hansmanns.org/2017/05/19/reading-composite-mill-gondola/

 

 

 

Eric Hansmann
El Paso, TX





DT&I gon build and Speedwitch stuff

Ted Culotta
 

I finally managed to get one of the DT&I resinbash gons built. I have written it up in Part 1 and Part 2.

Also, I am having a sale on Decals and Pressed Steel Tank Cars through the end of the month. Details at the Speedwitch site.

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