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Re: [EXT] [RealSTMFC] REDEMPTION

Bruce Smith
 

Bill,

Knowing that you have been on this list for a while, I am flummoxed by your PRR gondola comment, unless perhaps it was meant to be tongue-in-cheek?

PRR gondolas were common, nationwide. They don't even constitute an "oddity" for the SP. Now, I do note that your gondola has a load of hopper-bottom containers, which were typically used for mineral delivery. While less likely than the car to wander off-line, there would certainly be a rationale for those containers to be on SP, as they might be delivering particular mineral product in these containers. 

Regards,
Bruce Smith
Auburn, AL


From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of WILLIAM PARDIE <PARDIEW001@...>
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2021 12:43 PM
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Subject: [EXT] [RealSTMFC] REDEMPTION
 
CAUTION: Email Originated Outside of Auburn.
 Yeah!  Now I can justify my NKP hopper on the SP.  If only I could do that for the Pennsy gondola.

Bill Pardie

BillNow if I could just do that for the ._,_WHIL


Re: Photo: Coast Guard Boats In Gondolas

james murrie
 

The January 1937 floods were along the Ohio River. Among the rail traffic interrupted was the train carrying the second shipment of gold bullion to the newly opened depository at Fort Knox KY.
Jim Murrie


Re: Vallejo paint

WILLIAM PARDIE
 

A while back there was a modeling article on the 10 best tools for modeling.  One of the ten was the small battery operated mixer from Microsoft Mark.
Right they were.  It is one of my most used tools..I keep several at the ready.

Incidents another forgotten item for mixing paint is an ultrasonic cleaner.

Bill Pardie



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-------- Original message --------
From: Nelson Moyer <npmoyer@...>
Date: 3/25/21 12:59 PM (GMT-10:00)
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Vallejo paint

Good advice from an avid Vallejo user. However, I will occasionally mix paint with thinner in the cup for small paint jobs, but only with lacquers or enamels, never acrylics. I put the thinner into the cup first, so I know exactly how much I have, then add the paint to achieve approximately 3 parts paint and one part thinner. I use the tip of the plastic disposable pipette to stir and mix by aspiration a few times. Works just fine.

 

Nelson Moyer

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lester Breuer
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2021 4:55 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Vallejo paint

 

Clark never mix in the paint cup as paint goes around needle and that does not mix well with paint and thinner added above.  Always mix in another container - I use a large measuring spoon.  There are two Vallejo paint  types: Model Air ready for spraying which I find rare ( I have spayed only a few times with paint directly from the bottle) and Model Color for brushing that always must be thinned.  Before any thinning I remove eye dropper bottle top which does come out of bottle and stir paint inside bottle and reinsert eyedropper top.   thinning:  I mix all paint for the airbrush in a large measuring spoon.  Normally 30 to 40 drops of paint.  The beauty of the eye drop top.  Thinner: Model Air due to bottle sitting on shelf for a period of time may need to be thinned when opened so start with maybe 10 drops of thinner and work up 5 drops at a time. You should have a milk viscosity for spraying.  I use a piece of rail to stir the paint and thinner in the measuring spoon.  If I turn the rail after stirring vertical and the paint on the rail forms a drop and drips off paint is ready.  For Model Color I start with the same number of 30 to 40 drops of paint.  I start with half the number of drops, 15 or 20 of thinner and work up - again five drops at a time.  Again, when drop falls off rail used for mixing thinned paint ready for spraying.  On Model Color at times I will need and work up to the same amount of drops, 30 to 40 to get viscosity of thinner and paint correct.  Sounds like a lot of tedious time spent mixing; however, soon second nature and you will be able to mix at light speed as you building speed.

And, one key to Vallejo paint and thinner spray mix is needle size and air pressure.  The larger the needle size the better and air pressure 24 lbs or lower.  BTW when I started with water base paint I started with the Paasche H.   Now Passache Talon with #3 needle or Badger Patriot which has only one needle size.

Lester Breuer


Re: Photo: Coast Guard Boats In Gondolas

Garth Groff and Sally Sanford <mallardlodge1000@...>
 

Friends,

The larger vessels appear to be 38' patrol boats. I don't know when these first went into service, but they were still being built as late as 1944. Later they would have been renumbered into the 38XXX series.

I am stumped by the smaller boats. They look a bit like the 36' motor lifeboat (Glencoe Models still offers the old Revell O-scale kit), but I can't see two of them fitting into a 50-footish gondola. More likely they are a similar but shorter boat. 

I remember seeing one of the last 36' boats when I was stationed in Alameda in the nud-1970s. It was probably at Station Yerba Buena Island, and was out of service by then, perhaps being held for preservation. The standard small search-and-rescue boat by then was a 41' model with a single cabin just forward of amidships, with a large sunken open deck behind. I once lost my breakfast on one of these boats between the Channel Islands and Oxnard.

Coast Guard small boats have not been well documented in publicly available materials. When I was in the service, Coast Guard units including District headquarters where I served (public affairs) were not allowed to hold historical materials. It was all supposed to go to the National Archives, but more often went right into the dumpster. I was able to save valuable historical lighthouse negatives, but was ordered to send them to Headquarters for forwarding to the National Archives. I did make prints first though, and still have a few copy negatives I made for my own interest.

Named Coast Guard Cutters are much better documented.

Yours Aye,


Garth Groff (for CG Photojournalist 1st Class)




On Thu, Mar 25, 2021 at 5:16 PM lrkdbn via groups.io <lrkdbn=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:

When I opened this it came up titled "leaving for 1937 flood zone"
Note the archbar trucks still on the PRR gon
Larry King

 

 


Re: Vallejo paint

Nelson Moyer
 

Good advice from an avid Vallejo user. However, I will occasionally mix paint with thinner in the cup for small paint jobs, but only with lacquers or enamels, never acrylics. I put the thinner into the cup first, so I know exactly how much I have, then add the paint to achieve approximately 3 parts paint and one part thinner. I use the tip of the plastic disposable pipette to stir and mix by aspiration a few times. Works just fine.

 

Nelson Moyer

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lester Breuer
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2021 4:55 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Vallejo paint

 

Clark never mix in the paint cup as paint goes around needle and that does not mix well with paint and thinner added above.  Always mix in another container - I use a large measuring spoon.  There are two Vallejo paint  types: Model Air ready for spraying which I find rare ( I have spayed only a few times with paint directly from the bottle) and Model Color for brushing that always must be thinned.  Before any thinning I remove eye dropper bottle top which does come out of bottle and stir paint inside bottle and reinsert eyedropper top.   thinning:  I mix all paint for the airbrush in a large measuring spoon.  Normally 30 to 40 drops of paint.  The beauty of the eye drop top.  Thinner: Model Air due to bottle sitting on shelf for a period of time may need to be thinned when opened so start with maybe 10 drops of thinner and work up 5 drops at a time. You should have a milk viscosity for spraying.  I use a piece of rail to stir the paint and thinner in the measuring spoon.  If I turn the rail after stirring vertical and the paint on the rail forms a drop and drips off paint is ready.  For Model Color I start with the same number of 30 to 40 drops of paint.  I start with half the number of drops, 15 or 20 of thinner and work up - again five drops at a time.  Again, when drop falls off rail used for mixing thinned paint ready for spraying.  On Model Color at times I will need and work up to the same amount of drops, 30 to 40 to get viscosity of thinner and paint correct.  Sounds like a lot of tedious time spent mixing; however, soon second nature and you will be able to mix at light speed as you building speed.

And, one key to Vallejo paint and thinner spray mix is needle size and air pressure.  The larger the needle size the better and air pressure 24 lbs or lower.  BTW when I started with water base paint I started with the Paasche H.   Now Passache Talon with #3 needle or Badger Patriot which has only one needle size.

Lester Breuer


Fw: Aw: [RealSTMFC] REDEMPTION

vapeurchapelon
 

Oops, this wasn't meant to go to the group, but I hope it won't be a problem...
 
Many greetings
 
Johannes
Modeling the early post war years - now up to about 1954
 
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 25. März 2021 um 23:30 Uhr
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Victory! :-)
Great pics, many thanks. A single car (at least if it's not that much a really special car type) is not much of a problem for me - I have two general rules: 1. never say never!, 2. (too) many exceptions are not exceptionally accurate modeling.
PRR cars were everywhere! :-) Again: -a single car - no problem (I guess)!
 
Greetings
 
Johannes
 
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 25. März 2021 um 18:43 Uhr
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Betreff: [RealSTMFC] REDEMPTION
 Yeah!  Now I can justify my NKP hopper on the SP.  If only I could do that for the Pennsy gondola.
 
Bill Pardie
 
BillNow if I could just do that for the ._,_WHIL
 


Re: REDEMPTION

vapeurchapelon
 

Victory! :-)
Great pics, many thanks. A single car (at least if it's not that much a really special car type) is not much of a problem for me - I have two general rules: 1. never say never!, 2. (too) many exceptions are not exceptionally accurate modeling.
PRR cars were everywhere! :-) Again: -a single car - no problem (I guess)!
 
Greetings
 
Johannes
 
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 25. März 2021 um 18:43 Uhr
Von: "WILLIAM PARDIE" <PARDIEW001@...>
An: "main@realstmfc.groups.io" <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Betreff: [RealSTMFC] REDEMPTION
 Yeah!  Now I can justify my NKP hopper on the SP.  If only I could do that for the Pennsy gondola.
 
Bill Pardie
 
BillNow if I could just do that for the ._,_WHIL
 


Re: Photo: B&O and New Haven Boxcars

Eric Hansmann
 

You don’t see many B&O M-12 class boxcars in old photos. They were built in 1902 and one of the minor classes. 

B&O updated the design for the M-13 class. 


Eric Hansmann
Murfreesboro, TN

On Mar 25, 2021, at 4:44 PM, Chris Barkan <cplbarkan@...> wrote:

With both NH and B&O boxcars I had to like this one :-)  I improved the resolution and contrast, and cleaned up some of the dust specs etc. in the attached image.
--
Chris Barkan
Champaign, IL
<M_O, B_O 165432 _ NH 76987 boxcars Boston, MA _Boston Public Library, Boston Wharf Company Collection_-PS.jpg>


Re: Vallejo paint

Lester Breuer
 

Clark never mix in the paint cup as paint goes around needle and that does not mix well with paint and thinner added above.  Always mix in another container - I use a large measuring spoon.  There are two Vallejo paint  types: Model Air ready for spraying which I find rare ( I have spayed only a few times with paint directly from the bottle) and Model Color for brushing that always must be thinned.  Before any thinning I remove eye dropper bottle top which does come out of bottle and stir paint inside bottle and reinsert eyedropper top.   thinning:  I mix all paint for the airbrush in a large measuring spoon.  Normally 30 to 40 drops of paint.  The beauty of the eye drop top.  Thinner: Model Air due to bottle sitting on shelf for a period of time may need to be thinned when opened so start with maybe 10 drops of thinner and work up 5 drops at a time. You should have a milk viscosity for spraying.  I use a piece of rail to stir the paint and thinner in the measuring spoon.  If I turn the rail after stirring vertical and the paint on the rail forms a drop and drips off paint is ready.  For Model Color I start with the same number of 30 to 40 drops of paint.  I start with half the number of drops, 15 or 20 of thinner and work up - again five drops at a time.  Again, when drop falls off rail used for mixing thinned paint ready for spraying.  On Model Color at times I will need and work up to the same amount of drops, 30 to 40 to get viscosity of thinner and paint correct.  Sounds like a lot of tedious time spent mixing; however, soon second nature and you will be able to mix at light speed as you building speed.

And, one key to Vallejo paint and thinner spray mix is needle size and air pressure.  The larger the needle size the better and air pressure 24 lbs or lower.  BTW when I started with water base paint I started with the Paasche H.   Now Passache Talon with #3 needle or Badger Patriot which has only one needle size.

Lester Breuer


Re: Photo: B&O and New Haven Boxcars

Chris Barkan
 

With both NH and B&O boxcars I had to like this one :-)  I improved the resolution and contrast, and cleaned up some of the dust specs etc. in the attached image.
--
Chris Barkan
Champaign, IL


Re: Photo: B&O and New Haven Boxcars

Chris Barkan
 


--
Chris Barkan
Champaign, IL


Re: Photo: Coast Guard Boats In Gondolas

lrkdbn
 

When I opened this it came up titled "leaving for 1937 flood zone"
Note the archbar trucks still on the PRR gon
Larry King

 

 


Re: Photo: Grand Trunk Boxcar 15233

ROGER HINMAN
 

Anyone want to guess on the reporting marks of the reefer in back of the GT car??? My poor eyesight guesses the last letter is D which could possible be SFRD

On Mar 25, 2021, at 2:23 PM, Bob Chaparro via groups.io <chiefbobbb@...> wrote:

Photo: Grand Trunk Boxcar 15233
A phot from the Digital Commonwealth website:
Click on the photo and scroll to enlarge the photo.
Undated.
Bob Chaparro
Hemet, CA


Re: Photo: NYC railroad yard early 1900s

ROGER HINMAN
 

The title on the photo is a bit confusing; my guess is its a PRR yard shot, the postal cars do not appear to be NYC&HR and the fact that the Manhattan skyline is across the river makes it possibly a Long island RR yard (PRR sub)

Roger Hinman


Re: partial view of an SRLX reefer on the TRRA in 1939

ROGER HINMAN
 

Reporting marks are SLRX on this car; certainly doesn’t look like a Swift car

Roger Hinman

On Mar 25, 2021, at 4:19 PM, Claus Schlund &#92;(HGM&#92;) <claus@...> wrote:

Hi List Members,
 
A partial view of an SRLX reefer on the TRRA in 1939
 
 
More info at the link below...
 
 
Enjoy!
 
Claus Schlund


partial view of an SRLX reefer on the TRRA in 1939

Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 

Hi List Members,
 
A partial view of an SRLX reefer on the TRRA in 1939
 
 
More info at the link below...
 
 
Enjoy!
 
Claus Schlund


Photo: NYC railroad yard early 1900s

john oseida
 


Re: Photo: Grand Trunk Boxcar 15233

Ian Cranstone
 

Neat photo. Built by Rhodes Curry of Amherst, Nova Scotia in July 1906, this car would be assigned to be CN 336401 following the Grand Trunk’s absorption into Canadian National in 1923.

Ian Cranstone

Osgoode, Ontario, Canada

lamontc@...

http://freightcars.nakina.net


Re: Photo: B&O and New Haven Boxcars

Tony Thompson
 

Bob Chaparro wrote:

Photo: B&O and New Haven Boxcars
A phot from the Digital Commonwealth website:
Click on the photo and scroll to enlarge the photo.

Too bad we don't see more of the M&O box car at the left, with its "North & South Dispatch" emblem.

Tony Thompson




Photo: Grand Trunk Boxcar 15233

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: Grand Trunk Boxcar 15233

A phot from the Digital Commonwealth website:

https://www.digitalcommonwealth.org/search/commonwealth:br86bb23m

Click on the photo and scroll to enlarge the photo.

Undated.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA

3221 - 3240 of 186051