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Re: Old Photos from Southern Railway in Knoxville yard
Old Dutch Cleanser was a trademark of the Cudahy company (Cudahy Bros of Wisconsin was a different company). And their meat reefers carried the Old Dutch Cleanser logo. Attached is a photo of a Cudahy reefer taken in Salt Lake City, where they had a plant. Cudahy’s main plant was in south Omaha. They also had plants in Kansas City, Los Angeles, San Diego, Denver, Sioux City, South St Paul, East Chicago, Jersey City. Old Dutch Cleanser Plants were located in Los Angeles, Omaha, and Toronto.
Doug Harding www.iowacentralrr.org
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of mel perry
Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2020 2:02 AM To: main@realstmfc.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Old Photos from Southern Railway in Knoxville yard
thats a rarity, to find three "old dutch"/ cudahy in the same yard, hooked together, unless there was a plant close by?, always wonder if the "old dutch"/cudahy was a foobie? ;-) mel perry
On Tue, Sep 29, 2020, 6:18 PM George Courtney via groups.io <gsc3=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
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Re: Old Photos from Southern Railway in Knoxville yard
mel perry
thats a rarity, to find three "old dutch"/ cudahy in the same yard, hooked together, unless there was a plant close by?, always wonder if the "old dutch"/cudahy was a foobie? ;-) mel perry
A much younger, model railroad friend of mine sent me this photos. They are on Southern Railway in Knoxville. I didn't see a Monogram on the Southern Boxcar so I suspect before 1937. He found them in a old grocery store near the area. At age three I lived in the hill back of the viaduct. George Courtney.
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Re: Old Photos from Southern Railway in Knoxville yard
Richard Townsend
I like the tank cars. One Texaco, two Sinclair, and a three-compartment car.
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On Sep 29, 2020, at 6:57 PM, Tony Thompson <tony@...> wrote:
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Re: Photo: Gas Storage Tank On Boston & Maine Flat Car (1920)
It looks like these 60' B&M flatcars date back to at least 1901 (but probably not 1897) according to the on-line ORER/OREG's,
however they are mixed in with a number of shorter "special flat cars,' so we don't know how many there were nor their specific numbers at that time. Tom E.
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Re: Old Photos from Southern Railway in Knoxville yard
Tony Thompson
George Courtney wrote: A much younger, model railroad friend of mine sent me this photos. They are on Southern Railway in Knoxville. I didn't see a Monogram on the Southern Boxcar so I suspect before 1937. He found them in a old grocery store near the area. Interesting photos! Nice to see clear images of freight cars like this. Has to be before 1937, given the billboard reefers. Tony Thompson
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Re: Old Photos from Southern Railway in Knoxville yard
George Courtney
While we were very poor at the time, I actually lived in a house on the hill in the background, not inside the hill its self. I recall a steam switcher working near here in 1946 or 1947 when Dad walked with me down to the viaduct at three or four.
George Courtney
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Old Photos from Southern Railway in Knoxville yard
George Courtney
A much younger, model railroad friend of mine sent me this photos. They are on Southern Railway in Knoxville. I didn't see a Monogram on the Southern Boxcar so I suspect before 1937. He found them in a old grocery store near the area. At age three I lived in the hill back of the viaduct. George Courtney.
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Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: HERX (Hershey) Insulated Boxcar Or Reefer (1960)
Tony Thompson
Elden Gatwood wrote: Can’t fault that reasoning! Pittsburghers have always loved their Hershey bars! Maybe delivering bulk chocolate for the Clark Bar factory (yum!) -- speaking of favorites in the 'Burgh. Tony Thompson
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Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: HERX (Hershey) Insulated Boxcar Or Reefer (1960)
Gatwood, Elden J SAD
Eric;
What on Gd’s green earth was Hunt’s and catsup? I don’t recognize either of those things. There was never anything but Heinz in our households.
Yes, we also loved Clark Bars (I was actually baby-sat by Candy Barr), but a Clark Bar was nothing like a Hersheys Bar, esp if you liked them with almonds! Or, Reeses’ Cups!
I agree with you on all of that. The variety of loads could be endless!
Elden Gatwood
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Eric Hansmann
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2020 4:28 PM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: HERX (Hershey) Insulated Boxcar Or Reefer (1960)
Ee-gads, Man! That’s nearly as bad as saying Pittsburghers love Hunt’s catsup! A true Pittsburgher loves Clark bars! Made on the Nort Side and served by the Pennsy Fort Wayne line with a siding for freight cars.
As far as a load for that Hershey reefer, the company made other items beyond candy bars. Possibly there’s baker’s chocolate, chocolate powder, or other items being delivered. Since the photo shows the Try Street team yard, the items might be headed to local hotels, Duquesne University’s dining halls, a restaurant supplier in the Hill District, or even the kitchen in Allegheny County Jail. The car is here because the consignee is closer to this terminal than the Point, Strip District, North Side, or South Side team tracks.
Don’t forget, this might not be a whole car delivery, either.
Eric Hansmann Murfreesboro, TN Where you can’t find Clark bars….
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Gatwood, Elden J SAD
Schuyler;
Can’t fault that reasoning! Pittsburghers have always loved their Hershey bars!
Too bad we don’t have earlier and later photos of them unloading the car into a dray……
Elden Gatwood
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Schuyler Larrabee via groups.io
Elden wrote:
Claus;
The obvious answer would be in iced reefers, but the presence of that Hersheys car in Pittsburgh begs the question, what was it doing THERE?
Well with the doors open on a team track, I’d say a load of something Hershey made was delivered.
I am always looking for more info on loads….
Aren’t we all . . .??
Schuyler (BTW, thanks for the responses on my question about this car)
Elden Gatwood
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Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: HERX (Hershey) Insulated Boxcar Or Reefer (1960)
Eric Hansmann
Ee-gads, Man! That’s nearly as bad as saying Pittsburghers love Hunt’s catsup! A true Pittsburgher loves Clark bars! Made on the Nort Side and served by the Pennsy Fort Wayne line with a siding for freight cars.
As far as a load for that Hershey reefer, the company made other items beyond candy bars. Possibly there’s baker’s chocolate, chocolate powder, or other items being delivered. Since the photo shows the Try Street team yard, the items might be headed to local hotels, Duquesne University’s dining halls, a restaurant supplier in the Hill District, or even the kitchen in Allegheny County Jail. The car is here because the consignee is closer to this terminal than the Point, Strip District, North Side, or South Side team tracks.
Don’t forget, this might not be a whole car delivery, either.
Eric Hansmann Murfreesboro, TN Where you can’t find Clark bars….
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gatwood, Elden J SAD
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2020 12:20 PM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: HERX (Hershey) Insulated Boxcar Or Reefer (1960)
Schuyler;
Can’t fault that reasoning! Pittsburghers have always loved their Hershey bars!
Too bad we don’t have earlier and later photos of them unloading the car into a dray……
Elden Gatwood
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Schuyler Larrabee via groups.io
Elden wrote:
Claus;
The obvious answer would be in iced reefers, but the presence of that Hersheys car in Pittsburgh begs the question, what was it doing THERE?
Well with the doors open on a team track, I’d say a load of something Hershey made was delivered.
I am always looking for more info on loads….
Aren’t we all . . .??
Schuyler (BTW, thanks for the responses on my question about this car)
Elden Gatwood
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Re: Accurail 4300: CB&Q 15000-15499 or C&S 13500 series
Nice looking Rob, a very interesting and very ambitious project Fenton
On Tue, Sep 29, 2020 at 1:27 PM Robert kirkham <rdkirkham@...> wrote:
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Re: F&C B&M XM1
Donald B. Valentine <riverman_vt@...>
Great info Ken. Thanks for posting it. I find it interesting that more cars were wrecked on what I have long called the Standard Scrapyard of the World than on the next two railroads on which a large number of cars were wrecked combined. No, I do not think it is because a larger amount of B&M traffic went via the Pennsy.
Cordially, Don Valentine
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Re: F&C B&M XM1
Donald B. Valentine <riverman_vt@...>
With bulging sheathing boards that will drive Ted Cullota nuts after his virtual clinic last Saturday. LOL
Cordially, Don Valentine
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Re: Accurail 4300: CB&Q 15000-15499 or C&S 13500 series
Robert kirkham
Nearing the end of the rough work on this kitbash.
So far, the work has included: - removing the side and parts of the end ladders, as well as the cast on grab irons. - shaving off the bulge plates and (marginally) relocating the diagonal straps at the corner side panels. - bits of .005 styrene and CA as filler were used to model the various castings and sheet metal plates at the top and bottom of the corner posts. - Yarmouth etched ladder rungs - the ones with the long attachment arms - were inserted to form the grab iron ladders. I bent .008” wire for the remaining straight grabs and used pre-formed Tichy drop grabs on the end sills. I think they are made of thicker material, but decided not to bend my own. I noticed some alignment differences between ladder rung spacing and the lap seam that joins the top and bottom of the 7/8 end panels. So close inspection with photos won’t be very flattering to this model. Also, had challenges drilling through the cast on end ladder stiles. This is one of those places where an etch overlay with etched holes would help guide and hold the drill bit in alignment. Hint, hint. Once I have the model primed I’ll figure out what filling and filing is needed to hide blemishes. I’m waiting for the roof castings to arrive from Yarmouth. When they are on, the model will be primed and archer rivets add to complete the metal plates etc. They are also needed on the side sills where cross ties connect. So far, I’ve enjoyed this project and am looking forward to completing it. Rob
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Re: Photo: Gas Storage Tank On Boston & Maine Flat Car (1920)
akerboomk
I would suggest that is a Boston & Albany RR flat (Framingham is on the B&A) -- Ken Akerboom
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Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: HERX (Hershey) Insulated Boxcar Or Reefer (1960)
Gatwood, Elden J SAD
Schuyler;
Can’t fault that reasoning! Pittsburghers have always loved their Hershey bars!
Too bad we don’t have earlier and later photos of them unloading the car into a dray……
Elden Gatwood
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Schuyler Larrabee via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2020 12:03 PM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: HERX (Hershey) Insulated Boxcar Or Reefer (1960)
Elden wrote:
Claus;
The obvious answer would be in iced reefers, but the presence of that Hersheys car in Pittsburgh begs the question, what was it doing THERE?
Well with the doors open on a team track, I’d say a load of something Hershey made was delivered.
I am always looking for more info on loads….
Aren’t we all . . .??
Schuyler (BTW, thanks for the responses on my question about this car)
Elden Gatwood
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Re: Photo: Gas Storage Tank On Boston & Maine Flat Car (1920)
Dave Parker
We discussed this photo at some length four years ago -- see message 144771.
The B&M had 6 of these 60-ft, 30-ton flat cars in 1919. Down to one by 6/27, gone by 7/28. -- Dave Parker Swall Meadows, CA
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Re: Atlas USRA rebuilt boxcars(6400 series)
Thanks Ben, I was afraid of that.
On Tue, Sep 29, 2020 at 11:06 AM Benjamin Hom <b.hom@...> wrote:
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Re: Photo: GATX 31197 & 54877 At DuPont Plant (1940)
Steve Summers
No, that was Methyl Isocyanate in Bophal. Nevertheless Hydrogen Cyanide is nasty.
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On Sep 29, 2020, at 12:11 PM, David Wiggs <bigwiggs@...> wrote:
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Photo: PRR Rail Test Car 2349 (1917)
Photo: PRR Rail Test Car 2349 (1917) A photo from the Hagley Digital Archives: Click on the photo to enlarge it. Bob Chaparro Hemet, CA
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