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Re: Accurail 4300: CB&Q 15000-15499 or C&S 13500 series

Rene LaVoise
 

Robert,

After carving off the side ladders I used the back of a #11 Xacto blade to score the wood grain where the 'shadow' of the ladder was.  Then went over the area with a scratch brush with metal bristles to help blend.

The top bracket for the brake staff was an extra casting leftover from a Westerfield GN eight truss-rod boxcar.  Before finding it in my parts box I had planned to use a bottom brake bracket from a Tichy brake set.

--
René LaVoise
Kirkwood, MO


Re: Accurail 4300: CB&Q 15000-15499 or C&S 13500 series

Nelson Moyer
 

Beautiful build. The Accurail car body is very close to the original Speedwitch kit, except the Accurail body has the wood grain detail. The minor differences between the prototype and the Accurail body are in the door stops. The CB&Q removed the horizontal door brace when they added the slogan, and they added the top triangular reinforcement plates for the Z-bars about that time. I build the Sunshine kit as an XM-26, which is virtually identical to the XM-25, and the photo is attached for comparison with the Accurail body. Ted now offers an improved version of the Speedwitch kit, and I have two of them still in the boxes. They include the wood grain detail and other improvements.

 

Nelson Moyer

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rene LaVoise
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2020 8:54 AM
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Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Accurail 4300: CB&Q 15000-15499 or C&S 13500 series

 

Sorry, hit Send before attaching photos. 
--
René LaVoise
Kirkwood, MO

 


Photo: PRR Gondola 350115 (Undated)

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: PRR Gondola 350115 (Undated)

A photo from the Detroit Public Library:

https://digitalcollections.detroitpubliclibrary.org/islandora/object/islandora%3A160440

Click and hold to enlarge photo.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: RIP: Denny S. Anspach

Tony Thompson
 

      I am still processing the news abut Denny. I saw his historian and leadership roles while I   served more than ten years on the Collections Committee of the California State Railroad Museum (which Denny had chaired from its inception), having been appointed through Denny's auspices. I am still on the committee.
       But I think I first recognized the depths of his model railroading passions after one of the times I attended the Roseville model railroad show, a very big swap meet-type event held in November. Denny and Bob Church, who were good friends, used to get a table to sell off their surplus stuff, and I went a few times to add some of my own stuff to their sales. During the show, we would take turns visiting the other booths, and Denny soon returned with a totally decrepit, damaged and broken HO scale freight car, that he knew was a Varney paper-side kit. He was beside himself with joy, though I wasn't sure I understood why.
        Some time later I happened to visit Denny at his house, and he showed me that Varney car: carefully disassembled with acetone, cleaned up and all parts repaired and paint retouched, and then carefully reassembled, with more modern grab irons and sill steps. It looked quite good, and his joy was undiminished. That was Denny.

Tony Thompson




Photo: Kaiser-Frazer Automobile Bodies On Flat Cars (1951)

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: Kaiser-Frazer Automobile Bodies On Flat Cars (1951)

A photo from the Detroit Public Library:

https://digitalcollections.detroitpubliclibrary.org/islandora/object/islandora%3A195535

Click and hold to enlarge photo.

Caption:

View of Kaiser cars lined up on Union-Pacific railroad flatcars inside Kaiser-Frazer automobile factory. "Kaiser, '51, Frazer, '51" is spelled out on car roofs. Row of cars are parked in foreground. Stamped on back: "Photo from Kaiser-Frazer Corp., Willow Run, Mich., neg.#, date."

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: Accurail 4300: CB&Q 15000-15499 or C&S 13500 series

Schuyler Larrabee
 

Robert,

 

I would suggest that you make a wood block that just fits inside the car body.  It provides support for the car sides when you want to do something like shave off that band across the car door.

 

Schuyler

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert kirkham
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2020 12:53 AM
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Subject: [RealSTMFC] Accurail 4300: CB&Q 15000-15499 or C&S 13500 series

 

First progress shots on kit bashing Accurail 4300 series model into a C&S 13500-13999.  



Stripped most of the paint - that was stubborn!  Used both 99% alcohol and that purple stuff (can’t recall the name).   



Used a new knife blade and single edge razor blade to shave off the ladder and grab irons.  



I started cutting the roof off with a 1.25” circular blade in the drill press, moving the car into the blade with the car body resting on a fitted block that helped keep the car body level.  I made it from a scrap of plywood about 3” x 8”, and glued on a rectangle of balsa wood to fit tightly inside the shell.  Drilled a shallow hole into the plywood base where the bottom of the vertical brake stand protrudes lower than the rest of the shell.   The plywood and balsa block worked OK, but I still had to hold the shell down on it with my hands.  That’s not ideal around moving cutters!  If I was to do it again, I’d clamp a fence of some sort in place rather than guiding the block free-hand.   That would control the federate better and be safer as well.  



I ran into a problem with the blade melting the plastic rather than clearing chips of plastic saw dust.  This accumulated and - after I thought I was nearly through - the blade wandered upward just enough to spoil some roof detail.   I could blame the blade, which was flimsy, but I think the whole method was a bit too much for the set up.   I switched the blade out for an end mill and cleaned things up that way.   I’m planning to add some Yarmouth (Stafford Swain and Dan Kirlin) Hutchins roof panels to replace the original roof.     



Not sure if I have the nerve to remove the horizontal angle iron across the mid-height of the door . . .   Also, not yet sure I will carve the ladder (or the obviously wrong right ladder stile) off the end.   

 

Rob

 


Re: Accurail 4300: CB&Q 15000-15499 or C&S 13500 series

Nelson Moyer
 

Beautiful build. The Accurail car body is very close to the original Speedwitch kit, except the Accurail body has the wood grain detail. The minor differences between the prototype and the Accurail body are in the door stops. The CB&Q removed the horizontal door brace when they added the slogan, and they added the top triangular reinforcement plates for the Z-bars about that time. I build the Sunshine kit as an XM-26, which is virtually identical to the XM-25, and the photo is attached for comparison with the Accurail body. Ted now offers an improved version of the Speedwitch kit, and I have two of them still in the boxes. They include the wood grain detail and other improvements.

 

Nelson Moyer

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rene LaVoise
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2020 8:54 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Accurail 4300: CB&Q 15000-15499 or C&S 13500 series

 

Sorry, hit Send before attaching photos. 
--
René LaVoise
Kirkwood, MO


Re: RIP: Denny S. Anspach

Bob Chaparro
 

A repost from the ESPEE Group:

https://www.bizjournals.com/sacramento/news/2018/03/12/ed-goldman-dr-denny-anspach-has-had-a-two-track.html

This is a Sacramento Business Journal feature article about Denny from March 12, 2018.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: Accurail 4300: CB&Q 15000-15499 or C&S 13500 series

Robert kirkham
 

Very nice carving job Rene!  I’m curious to know what you used for that part at the top of the end to support the brake staff?

Rob

On Sep 21, 2020, at 6:51 AM, Rene LaVoise <rlavoise@...> wrote:

Robert,

I just finished applying the decals on my build of C&S 13571 last week. Haven’t yet applied flat coat or any weathering yet. 

On the ends I removed the inboard ladder stile except for the middle part spanning the two end sections. 
--
René LaVoise
Kirkwood, MO


Re: RIP: Denny S. Anspach

Schuyler Larrabee
 

Jeff,

 

Thanks for reporting this extremely sad news.  I am extremely sad to receive it.

 

Simply put, Denny was a great man, a practitioner in real life of a very difficult profession, and in his recreational life, he utilized the empathetic skills as powerfully as he did in his medical practice.  Never one to criticize another’s work, on the other hand, he would answer a question as well as anyone in this hobby could, from electronics to detailing to the history of a car or locomotive.

 

I have to add that he influenced some of the most personal decisions of my life, far from the hobby aspect, and I have always been thankful for the counsel he provide in a very tough time for me.

 

Schuyler

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Aley, Jeff A
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2020 10:22 PM
To: RealSTMFC@groups.io; PassengerCarList@groups.io; RockIslandLines@groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] RIP: Denny S. Anspach

 

It is my sad duty to inform you that my great friend, Denny Anspach, passed away today, September 20, 2020.  Denny was a man of great accomplishments, not only within our hobby of prototype and model railroading, but also in other areas.  But to me his greatest attribute was his friendship and mentoring – which I will try to “pay forward” until we meet again.  I was often impressed by the fact that he knew so many great individuals.  I gradually learned that Denny had a tremendous ability to focus on a person’s best traits, no matter who they were.  All people are great and highly accomplished in some way, and Denny always spoke of a person’s finest character.

 

I will miss him tremendously.

 

-Jeff Aley

 


Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Accurail 4300: CB&Q 15000-15499 or C&S 13500 series

Gatwood, Elden J SAD
 

Nice looking car, Rene!

 

Elden Gatwood

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rene LaVoise
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2020 9:54 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Accurail 4300: CB&Q 15000-15499 or C&S 13500 series

 

Sorry, hit Send before attaching photos. 
--
René LaVoise
Kirkwood, MO


Re: Accurail 4300: CB&Q 15000-15499 or C&S 13500 series

Rene LaVoise
 

Sorry, hit Send before attaching photos. 
--
René LaVoise
Kirkwood, MO


Re: Accurail 4300: CB&Q 15000-15499 or C&S 13500 series

Rene LaVoise
 

Robert,

I just finished applying the decals on my build of C&S 13571 last week. Haven’t yet applied flat coat or any weathering yet. 

On the ends I removed the inboard ladder stile except for the middle part spanning the two end sections. 
--
René LaVoise
Kirkwood, MO


Re: RIP: Denny S. Anspach

Douglas Harding
 

Sorry to hear this. I was privileged to be a guest in the Anspach homes in both Sacramento and Okoboji (his summer home in Iowa). And I had Denny as a guest in two different homes to see progress on my Iowa Central layout. We shared mutual interests in Iowa railroads and the Fairmont Motor Co. and often shared notes through the years on related modeling and research projects. I fondly remember Denny giving me a private tour of the backshops of the California State Railroad Museum, while regaling me with stories of its creation and building. He rode the SP cab forward as it was moved into position while the museum was being built. Denny also introduced me to Ellen in the library who assisted me with a research project, and the curator Wyatt. Both connections I treasured. I will truly his him.

 

Doug Harding

www.iowacentralrr.org

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Aley, Jeff A
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2020 9:22 PM
To: RealSTMFC@groups.io; PassengerCarList@groups.io; RockIslandLines@groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] RIP: Denny S. Anspach

 

It is my sad duty to inform you that my great friend, Denny Anspach, passed away today, September 20, 2020.  Denny was a man of great accomplishments, not only within our hobby of prototype and model railroading, but also in other areas.  But to me his greatest attribute was his friendship and mentoring – which I will try to “pay forward” until we meet again.  I was often impressed by the fact that he knew so many great individuals.  I gradually learned that Denny had a tremendous ability to focus on a person’s best traits, no matter who they were.  All people are great and highly accomplished in some way, and Denny always spoke of a person’s finest character.

 

I will miss him tremendously.

 

-Jeff Aley

 


Re: Photo: Many Tanks Cars (Undated)

Douglas Harding
 

Sinclair has two refineries in Wyoming, Sinclair (was Parco) and Casper. Headquarters is in Salt Lake City.

 

Doug Harding

www.iowacentralrr.org

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of RICH CHAPIN via groups.io
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2020 5:52 AM
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Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: Many Tanks Cars (Undated)

 

Notes for the photos say "Courtesy of the Sinclair Consolidated Oil Corporation, New York." wonder where photo taken, doesn't look like anything near NYC

Rich Chapin
Basking Ridge NJ


Re: RIP: Denny S. Anspach

Bruce Smith
 

Steve, Folks,

Steve - thank you for posting this photo - it is so quintessentially "Doc Denny"! If I remember correctly, he was sharing a story that my models had stimulated. I will miss his gentle demeanor, which disguised a very serious intensity. As some may know, but many may not, Denny was a PRR fan and knew a great deal about the PRR in addition to his favored western roads. In addition to being a historian of railroads, Denny was a historian of modeling, and I will also miss his efforts to bring the past into the present, usually with a very old kit, done up to his more exacting present day standards. But most of all, I will miss his warmth and friendship.

Clear Tracks my Friend!
Bruce
Bruce Smith
Auburn, AL


From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of Steve and Barb Hile <shile@...>
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2020 9:38 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] RIP: Denny S. Anspach
 

Denny with Bruce Smith from Cocoa Beach 2015.  Always with a story to share.

 

 

He will be greatly missed.

 

Steve Hile

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Aley, Jeff A
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2020 9:22 PM
To: RealSTMFC@groups.io; PassengerCarList@groups.io; RockIslandLines@groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] RIP: Denny S. Anspach

 

It is my sad duty to inform you that my great friend, Denny Anspach, passed away today, September 20, 2020.  Denny was a man of great accomplishments, not only within our hobby of prototype and model railroading, but also in other areas.  But to me his greatest attribute was his friendship and mentoring – which I will try to “pay forward” until we meet again.  I was often impressed by the fact that he knew so many great individuals.  I gradually learned that Denny had a tremendous ability to focus on a person’s best traits, no matter who they were.  All people are great and highly accomplished in some way, and Denny always spoke of a person’s finest character.

 

I will miss him tremendously.

 

-Jeff Aley

 


Re: Proto 2000 Stock Car

Bill Welch
 
Edited

Circa 1939 photos I own show L&N and CNW Mather stock cars with truss rod u/f.

Bill Welch


Re: Photo: Many Tanks Cars (Undated)

RICH CHAPIN
 

Notes for the photos say "Courtesy of the Sinclair Consolidated Oil Corporation, New York." wonder where photo taken, doesn't look like anything near NYC

Rich Chapin
Basking Ridge NJ


Accurail 4300: CB&Q 15000-15499 or C&S 13500 series

Robert kirkham
 

First progress shots on kit bashing Accurail 4300 series model into a C&S 13500-13999.  

Stripped most of the paint - that was stubborn!  Used both 99% alcohol and that purple stuff (can’t recall the name).   

Used a new knife blade and single edge razor blade to shave off the ladder and grab irons.  

I started cutting the roof off with a 1.25” circular blade in the drill press, moving the car into the blade with the car body resting on a fitted block that helped keep the car body level.  I made it from a scrap of plywood about 3” x 8”, and glued on a rectangle of balsa wood to fit tightly inside the shell.  Drilled a shallow hole into the plywood base where the bottom of the vertical brake stand protrudes lower than the rest of the shell.   The plywood and balsa block worked OK, but I still had to hold the shell down on it with my hands.  That’s not ideal around moving cutters!  If I was to do it again, I’d clamp a fence of some sort in place rather than guiding the block free-hand.   That would control the federate better and be safer as well.  

I ran into a problem with the blade melting the plastic rather than clearing chips of plastic saw dust.  This accumulated and - after I thought I was nearly through - the blade wandered upward just enough to spoil some roof detail.   I could blame the blade, which was flimsy, but I think the whole method was a bit too much for the set up.   I switched the blade out for an end mill and cleaned things up that way.   I’m planning to add some Yarmouth (Stafford Swain and Dan Kirlin) Hutchins roof panels to replace the original roof.     

Not sure if I have the nerve to remove the horizontal angle iron across the mid-height of the door . . .   Also, not yet sure I will carve the ladder (or the obviously wrong right ladder stile) off the end.   

Rob


Re: Proto 2000 Stock Car

Chet
 

The Wabash reloaded livestock into home road cars at Kansas City and perhaps Council Bluffs and released western road car back home.

Chet French
Dixon, IL

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