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Re: News regarding long-time list member Dr. Denny Anspach

Paul R Greenwald
 

Ours prayers go out for Dr Denny and his family.

🙏
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Paul R Greenwald 
PRRT&HS #1802
NMRA #129229


Modelling options - Accurail 4300 series - CB&Q 15000-16499 series?

Robert kirkham
 

A long, long time ago I remember when the Accurail kits were new, and I didn’t know much about prototype equipment.  Being a CPR modeller, I bought a passel of the them, thinking they looked like CPR cars.  I removed the ladders and installed grab iron type ladders instead, replaced the fish belly centre sills with straight sills, and fully modelled the air lines and brake rods underneath.  And then - before I got to painting - realized they were not like the CPR cars.  They went into a box.  Was that 1992 or ’93?  Wow!

Anyhow, I know I can use the cars to model CNR cars, and will do a bunch up for that road.  But I’m wondering what else they model well.  I’m happy to revise the ladders and underframes as needed.  I see two of my kits have already had the roofs filed down flat, so I guess there was a plan sometime in the last 30 years . . . but cannot recall it now.   

In message 44576, Ben Hom identifies prototype options for a number of Accurail cars.  For the 4300 cars, his suggestions include - well - an MKT car.  The DM&IR car has the steel doors, so an easy modification.  Then there are suggestions that are close but different: LNE, CB&Q, SL-SF, NP, MP. I know little about these prototypes.

In message 44624, Tony Thompson notes that the SP car is at best a stand in for the B-50-14 design. In message 110062 Gene Green notes that: "Richard Hendrickson wrote a two-part article in the February and April 1993 issues of Railmodel Journal that addressed prototypes for the Accurail 4000-4100-4200-4300-4400-4500 series single-sheathed box cars." Makes me miss Richard (and MRJ) afresh! What a legacy.  It can be found at Train Life https://trainlife.com/pages/rail-model-journal-magazine-archive

Looking at photos, the CB&Q 15000-16499 cars look interesting. But the photo caption of CB&Q 15516 is really mangled and I am not able to tell just what differences I would have to deal with. It mentions another kit for those cars (by another manufacturer) was coming to market. I assume it was a better choice for the CB&Q cars. But not clear why.

A lot has happened since those articles were written. Given I already have the kits and want to do something with them, is the CB&Q car a worthwhile project or something better tackled another way? Any additional resources one should check out before proceeding with the Q car? Are decent decals available?

Likewise, I’d be interested in knowing which cars are similar in height but need a radial roof.

And for the MKT car, what is the car series? And a good source of decals?

Rob





Re: What car is this on the Rio Grande?

Nolan Hinshaw
 

On Sep 17, 2020, at 07:59, Jim Allen <jimp72@msn.com> wrote:

Who or what is this “Silver Streak”?
Dave "Silver Streak" Bayless worked the GEMCO job in Lozangelez for a long time; he's a perennial Bay Area modeler.


Re: News regarding long-time list member Dr. Denny Anspach

Tony Thompson
 

 gary laakso wrote:

Per a post on Railway Preservation News' Interchange discussion board (http://www.rypn.org/forums/viewforum.php?f=1), long-time list PassengerCarList member Dr. Denny Anspach, one of the founders of the California State Railroad Museum, is in hospice in Sacramento with an inoperable throat tumor.

     This is sad news, though not totally unexpected. Denny's health has not been great in recent years. But his contributions to the California State Railroad Museum are immense, and one could hardly ask for a more gigantic legacy. For me, he has been a good friend and, often, confidant and fellow striver with ancient-era HO scale freight cars. And many know his genial face from most of the Cocoa Beach meetings. He is sure going to be missed.

Tony Thompson




Re: What car is this on the Rio Grande?

Tony Thompson
 

Garth Groff  wrote:

Silver Streak was a line of wood-sided freight cars, mostly boxcars, cabooses, a few refrigerators, and a Hart convertible gondola. The cars had scribed and pre-painted plywood sides and unpainted diecast ends, underframes, brake parts and doors that were applied to a wooden core: typical construction for the 1950s when they were introduced. As was common in those days the cars were pretty generic, and didn't really represent their purported prototypes. 

    Worth observing that the older portion of the Silver Streak line, maybe a third of the kits, including the SP cupola caboose, were about 10 percent oversize, almost exactly making them OO scale, maybe hedging their bets in case OO won out over HO? Caveat Emptor.
     But many can be salvaged. Richard Hendrickson wrote a nice article for_ Prototype Modeler_  (issue for January 1986) showing how he corrected the dimensions on a WFEX reefer kit. I showed the completed model in one of my blog posts about Richard (link below if you're interested).


Tony Thompson




Re: [PassengerCarList] News regarding long-time list member Dr. Denny Anspach

Rich C
 

My prayers go out to Denny and his family.

Rich Christie


Re: [PassengerCarList] News regarding long-time list member Dr. Denny Anspach

Steve and Barb Hile
 

Denny has always been pleasure to talk to and a willing to help and share information.  We pray for his comfort, healing and peace as well as for his family.

 

Steve and Barb Hile

 

From: PassengerCarList@groups.io [mailto:PassengerCarList@groups.io] On Behalf Of Fritz Milhaupt via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2020 2:01 PM
To: PassengerCarList@groups.io
Subject: [PassengerCarList] News regarding long-time list member Dr. Denny Anspach

 

[Edited Message Follows]

Per a post on Railway Preservation News' Interchange discussion board (http://www.rypn.org/forums/viewforum.php?f=1), long-time list PassengerCarList member Dr. Denny Anspach, one of the founders of the California State Railroad Museum, is in hospice in Sacramento with an inoperable throat tumor.

In addition to having been an active participant on this list, Denny is known to many for his work as Chair of the California State Railroad Museum's Collections Committee. More than that, he worked tirelessly in shaping its development since its inception.

I'd invite those of us inclined toward prayer to include one for Denny.

- Fritz Milhaupt


Re: What car is this on the Rio Grande?

Garth Groff and Sally Sanford
 

Jim,

Silver Streak was a line of wood-sided freight cars, mostly boxcars, cabooses, a few refrigerators, and a Hart convertible gondola. The cars had scribed and pre-painted plywood sides and unpainted diecast ends, underframes, brake parts and doors that were applied to a wooden core: typical construction for the 1950s when they were introduced. As was common in those days the cars were pretty generic, and didn't really represent their purported prototypes. For example, the D&RGW "Cookie Box" they offered should have had steel sides, not wooden, and the paint was white rather than silver. The line was acquired by Walthers in the early 1970s, but was retired a few years later when they bought the Train Miniature plastic freight car line.

By the way, some of the cars I built just before the Walthers take-over were painted with Ulrich 410M, and this was specified in the instructions. This paint brand had disappeared some years before. It wasn't always easy to match the sides with Floquil.

Yours Aye,


Garth Groff  🦆


On Thu, Sep 17, 2020 at 6:11 PM Jim Allen <jimp72@...> wrote:
Who or what is this “Silver Streak”?
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Jim Allen
Utah


Re: What car is this on the Rio Grande?

Jim Allen
 

Who or what is this “Silver Streak”?
--
Jim Allen
Utah


Re: Image of PMcK&Y 63449 hopper at coal mine

Wallace Steinbrecher
 

But it was a great shot of some B&O hoppers!

Wallace Steinbrecher

On Mon, Sep 14, 2020 at 4:16 PM Claus Schlund &#92;(HGM&#92;) <claus@...> wrote:
Oops, wrong link!
 
Try the link below...
 
 
Claus Schlund
 
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Hi List Members,
 
Image of PMcK&Y 63449 hopper at coal mine
 
 
Enjoy!
 
Claus Schlund
 


News regarding long-time list member Dr. Denny Anspach

gary laakso
 

From the passenger car list.

 

Gary Laakso

Northwest of Mike Brock

 

From: PassengerCarList@groups.io <PassengerCarList@groups.io> On Behalf Of Fritz Milhaupt via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2020 12:01 PM
To: PassengerCarList@groups.io
Subject: [PassengerCarList] News regarding long-time list member Dr. Denny Anspach

 

[Edited Message Follows]

Per a post on Railway Preservation News' Interchange discussion board (http://www.rypn.org/forums/viewforum.php?f=1), long-time list PassengerCarList member Dr. Denny Anspach, one of the founders of the California State Railroad Museum, is in hospice in Sacramento with an inoperable throat tumor.

In addition to having been an active participant on this list, Denny is known to many for his work as Chair of the California State Railroad Museum's Collections Committee. More than that, he worked tirelessly in shaping its development since its inception.

I'd invite those of us inclined toward prayer to include one for Denny.

- Fritz Milhaupt


Thanks for the help on Unit truck request

Andy Carlson
 

Thanks for all of the good (and quick) responses on my truck question. With so many made and sold I am amazed that I don't recall ever hearing of this brand of freight car truck. I am impressed on how much we can learn from this group.
Thanks all,

-Andy Carlson
Ojai CA


Re: Unit truck-is this another name for a common truck?

Bob Chaparro
 

A repost of a Chuck Zeiler photo:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/chuckzeiler/26329487085/in/album-72157650922113005/

CB&Q Class XM-32A 37000

Caption: "Chicago Burlington & Quincy Railroad Class XM-32A 37000, photographer, date, and location unknown, scan by Chuck Zeiler. This is a photo of a page in a trade publication, I believe Railway Age. Apparently, a CB&Q boxcar was painted green well before the BN merger. This car was built at CB&Q's Havelock, Nebraska shops in July 1948."

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: [Non-DoD Source] [RealSTMFC] Unit truck-is this another name for a common truck?

brianleppert@att.net
 

Here's photos of a CB&Q Truck No. 67 at the North Dakota State RR Museum in Mandan, ND.  Unit Truck offered several different side frame castings with Unit Truck's unique features cast on.

Brian Leppert
Tahoe Model Works
Carson City, NV


Re: NYC 751000 series 50 foot gondolas

Jerry Hamsmith
 

Eric -

Those cars in the series with wood floors had a smaller IH than those with a steel floor (4' 4" versus 4' 8") and a smaller cubic capacity.  Each ORER noted the existence of the difference in the series and had a footnote listing the specific cars with the wood floors.  The October, 1951 ORER (the date of the photo of 751478) does not list that number.  So, yes, it would be a steel floor car.  My understanding is that all cars got the reinforcement angle, but I am not certain.

Jerry Hamsmith


Re: [Non-DoD Source] [RealSTMFC] Unit truck-is this another name for a common truck?

Steve and Barb Hile
 

From the 1940 CBC

 

 

 

 

And here is a page from the 1946 CBC

 

 

Steve Hile

 

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Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2020 7:18 AM
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Subject: Re: [Non-DoD Source] [RealSTMFC] Unit truck-is this another name for a common truck?

 

Andy;

 

Unit Truck Corporation appears over a very limited time period between late forties and early fifties with their claim to fame apparently being a truck with integral brake equipment. 

 

Many,  many businesses and corporation I have researched come up with virtually nothing on the net.  Here is what’s out there:

 

https://books.google.com/books?id=O-YlAAAAMAAJ&pg=RA1-PA88&lpg=RA1-PA88&dq=%22unit+truck+corporation%22+new+york&source=bl&ots=i_5R_rwab8&sig=ACfU3U2hxXlXnrnY3MhP9s7fsmJojMdiGg&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjXp_Wgk_DrAhVNX60KHdRaCtEQ6AEwCnoECAIQAQ#v=onepage&q=%22unit%20truck%20corporation%22%20new%20york&f=false

 

https://www.google.com/search?q=%22unit+truck+corporation%22+new+york&tbm=isch&source=iu&ictx=1&fir=ZJkU91wXkZ685M%252CUgdOVC1DWIRolM%252C_&vet=1&usg=AI4_-kQXGu-RyByZLvYFjI9HkbYf7kG_eg&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjXp_Wgk_DrAhVNX60KHdRaCtEQ9QF6BAgKEAY#imgrc=ZJkU91wXkZ685M

 

https://books.google.com/books?id=sP86AAAAMAAJ&pg=RA1-PA208&lpg=RA1-PA208&dq=%22unit+truck+corporation%22+new+york&source=bl&ots=5igOT-Idfo&sig=ACfU3U1h9xtXevfqsLqp1rDIhsKjYxbStg&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjXp_Wgk_DrAhVNX60KHdRaCtEQ6AEwDXoECAMQAQ#v=onepage&q=%22unit%20truck%20corporation%22%20new%20york&f=false

 

http://livinghistoryofillinois.com/pdf_files/1948%20Chicago%20Railroad%20Fair%20Official%20Guide%20Book%20Wheels%20a-Rolling.pdf

 

Again, my history researching businesses is that many are brief, and quietly go out of business or are absorbed by other companies at some point with little notice.

 

Elden Gatwood

 

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Andy Carlson
Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2020 11:38 PM
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Subject: [Non-DoD Source] [RealSTMFC] Unit truck-is this another name for a common truck?

 

A friend sent me this copy of an add for a 1948 freight car truck.

 

Inline image

 

Can anyone help me out for a good friend? I suspect that it is a common truck with a licensed builder. Any help is appreciated.

Thanks,

-Andy Carlson

Ojai CA

 


Re: [Non-DoD Source] [RealSTMFC] Unit truck-is this another name for a common truck?

Bruce Smith
 

Dave,

Is it equipped with the correct Unit Truck? ;)

Regards

Bruce


Bruce F. Smith            

Auburn, AL

"Some days you are the bug, some days you are the windshield."




On Sep 17, 2020, at 8:50 AM, Dave Lotz <Dave_Lotz@...> wrote:

Hi all,
 
In case some on the list are unaware, last year’s Trainfest HO & N scale model cars were the car pictured in this advertisement.  The BRHS has the extras of this unique car available for purchase in both scales in our Company Store at www.BurlingtonRoute.org.  I invite you to check it out!
 
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Re: [Non-DoD Source] [RealSTMFC] Unit truck-is this another name for a common truck?

Dave Lotz
 

Hi all,

 

In case some on the list are unaware, last year’s Trainfest HO & N scale model cars were the car pictured in this advertisement.  The BRHS has the extras of this unique car available for purchase in both scales in our Company Store at www.BurlingtonRoute.org.  I invite you to check it out!

 

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Re: [Non-DoD Source] [RealSTMFC] Unit truck-is this another name for a common truck?

Gatwood, Elden J SAD
 

Andy;

 

Unit Truck Corporation appears over a very limited time period between late forties and early fifties with their claim to fame apparently being a truck with integral brake equipment. 

 

Many,  many businesses and corporation I have researched come up with virtually nothing on the net.  Here is what’s out there:

 

https://books.google.com/books?id=O-YlAAAAMAAJ&pg=RA1-PA88&lpg=RA1-PA88&dq=%22unit+truck+corporation%22+new+york&source=bl&ots=i_5R_rwab8&sig=ACfU3U2hxXlXnrnY3MhP9s7fsmJojMdiGg&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjXp_Wgk_DrAhVNX60KHdRaCtEQ6AEwCnoECAIQAQ#v=onepage&q=%22unit%20truck%20corporation%22%20new%20york&f=false

 

https://www.google.com/search?q=%22unit+truck+corporation%22+new+york&tbm=isch&source=iu&ictx=1&fir=ZJkU91wXkZ685M%252CUgdOVC1DWIRolM%252C_&vet=1&usg=AI4_-kQXGu-RyByZLvYFjI9HkbYf7kG_eg&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjXp_Wgk_DrAhVNX60KHdRaCtEQ9QF6BAgKEAY#imgrc=ZJkU91wXkZ685M

 

https://books.google.com/books?id=sP86AAAAMAAJ&pg=RA1-PA208&lpg=RA1-PA208&dq=%22unit+truck+corporation%22+new+york&source=bl&ots=5igOT-Idfo&sig=ACfU3U1h9xtXevfqsLqp1rDIhsKjYxbStg&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjXp_Wgk_DrAhVNX60KHdRaCtEQ6AEwDXoECAMQAQ#v=onepage&q=%22unit%20truck%20corporation%22%20new%20york&f=false

 

http://livinghistoryofillinois.com/pdf_files/1948%20Chicago%20Railroad%20Fair%20Official%20Guide%20Book%20Wheels%20a-Rolling.pdf

 

Again, my history researching businesses is that many are brief, and quietly go out of business or are absorbed by other companies at some point with little notice.

 

Elden Gatwood

 

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Andy Carlson
Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2020 11:38 PM
To: STMFC E-List <main@realstmfc.groups.io>
Subject: [Non-DoD Source] [RealSTMFC] Unit truck-is this another name for a common truck?

 

A friend sent me this copy of an add for a 1948 freight car truck.

 

Inline image

 

Can anyone help me out for a good friend? I suspect that it is a common truck with a licensed builder. Any help is appreciated.

Thanks,

-Andy Carlson

Ojai CA

 


Re: Photo: Loading Coal Into Boxcars? (1914)

np328
 

Correction to the coal comment - it is Anthracite coal.  Oh well, wife likes it, I get to walk in and smell a coal fire.      JD

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