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Re: Photo: N&W Livestock Car 33000

James Brewer
 

N&W Class SK stock cars built from N&W Class BL and BLa boxcars; here is more than you want to know!

https://www.nwhs.org/archivesdb/listdocs/select.php?index=rs&id=90

Jim Brewer


Re: End stiles

Brent Greer
 

Talk to Craig Zeni.

He came up with a beautiful solution for this. (He can describe it far better than I can - it was genius)

Brent 

Dr. J. Brent Greer


From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of Clark Propst <cepropst@q.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 7, 2021 1:38 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Subject: [RealSTMFC] End stiles
 
I just started on a F&C USRA DS box car kit. They only molded the outside stile on the ends. Meaning I'm to add the inside one. Their stile is so narrow I would not be able to keep my drill from sliding off one side or the other. So, I scrapped it off. Now I thinking of gluing on a ladder with the same width as Tichy drop grabs, drilling holes for them and lastly cutting off the ladder rungs. I haven't checked my ladder supply yet.

Does this sound like a reason way tp proceed?
Thanks,
Clark Propst


PRECO Fan Ownership

Bob Chaparro
 

PRECO Fan Ownership

A question posted on several other groups.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA

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Does anyone know who owned the motors that would be attached to reefers to run the PRECO fans while the cars were being loading? Was it the shipper, the railroad, or the car companies (PFE, SFRD, FGE, etc.)?
Also, I assume that the shippers were the ones responsible for attaching the motors to the cars, running them, and removing them before the car was moved. Is that correct?
Thanks in advance for any insight.
Bill Parks
Cumming, GA
Modelling the Seaboard Airline in Central Florida


Re: Photo: N&W Livestock Car 33000

Schuyler Larrabee
 

Note that when you click on the image for a larger view, the proportions of the car are different.  Longer, less tall.  The original image (I assume) is distorted.

 

BTW, can anyone make out the BLT date?  I read the servicing date as 5-53, is that right?

 

Schuyler

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bob Chaparro via groups.io
Sent: Sunday, February 07, 2021 12:33 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Photo: N&W Livestock Car 33000

 

Photo: N&W Livestock Car 33000

A photo from the Virginia Tech Universities Library:

https://imagebase.lib.vt.edu/image_viewer.php?q=NS2780

Click on the photo to enlarge it. Cars were forty-two feet long.

Part of series 33000-33249

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: End stiles

Robert kirkham
 

Well, the tricky bit is that the right stile was normally a steel strap, not an angle iron.  So it projects off the corrugations less far (similar to the left style with its normal thickness).  A regular right ladder style projects off more - and gives the ladder an angled look that’s kind of eh.   I used pie plate to model this recently - marked and drilled the holes before trimming it into a strip.  That option with separate grabs works well.

Rob  

On Feb 7, 2021, at 10:38 AM, Clark Propst <cepropst@q.com> wrote:

I just started on a F&C USRA DS box car kit. They only molded the outside stile on the ends. Meaning I'm to add the inside one. Their stile is so narrow I would not be able to keep my drill from sliding off one side or the other. So, I scrapped it off. Now I thinking of gluing on a ladder with the same width as Tichy drop grabs, drilling holes for them and lastly cutting off the ladder rungs. I haven't checked my ladder supply yet.

Does this sound like a reason way tp proceed?
Thanks,
Clark Propst


Re: End stiles

ed_mines
 

wasn't the original Tichy box car end (#3001?) for a USRA  double sheathed car?
have you tried using a Yarmouth ladder as a substitute ladder stile? can they be filed down?
you might also try using a Yarmouth ladder as a drilling template on a styrene sheet and then cut out a ladder style after all the holes have been drilled. these homemade ladder styles can be joined on a Tichy end before the grab irons are installed. 



Re: End stiles

O Fenton Wells
 

I bet it will look good
Fenton

On Sun, Feb 7, 2021 at 1:38 PM Clark Propst <cepropst@q.com> wrote:
I just started on a F&C USRA DS box car kit. They only molded the outside stile on the ends. Meaning I'm to add the inside one. Their stile is so narrow I would not be able to keep my drill from sliding off one side or the other. So, I scrapped it off. Now I thinking of gluing on a ladder with the same width as Tichy drop grabs, drilling holes for them and lastly cutting off the ladder rungs. I haven't checked my ladder supply yet.

Does this sound like a reason way tp proceed?
Thanks,
Clark Propst



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Fenton Wells
250 Frye Rd
Pinehurst NC 28374
910-420-8106
srrfan1401@...


End stiles

Clark Propst
 

I just started on a F&C USRA DS box car kit. They only molded the outside stile on the ends. Meaning I'm to add the inside one. Their stile is so narrow I would not be able to keep my drill from sliding off one side or the other. So, I scrapped it off. Now I thinking of gluing on a ladder with the same width as Tichy drop grabs, drilling holes for them and lastly cutting off the ladder rungs. I haven't checked my ladder supply yet.

Does this sound like a reason way tp proceed?
Thanks,
Clark Propst


Re: Des Plaines SOO caboose

Bill J.
 

Have them check with Bill at Becker's Model RR Supply, 6510 635-9480

Bill Jolitz


Photo: N&W Livestock Car 33000

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: N&W Livestock Car 33000

A photo from the Virginia Tech Universities Library:

https://imagebase.lib.vt.edu/image_viewer.php?q=NS2780

Click on the photo to enlarge it. Cars were forty-two feet long.

Part of series 33000-33249

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: AP article on model railroading today...

Bob Chaparro
 


AP article on model railroading today...

Jack Burgess
 

I read AP news article on model railroading this morning. Maybe our hobby isn’t dying after all!

 

https://hosted.ap.org/article/c10710b3559073bd0a18bd9975c5da35/antidote-pandemic-blues-some-assembly-required

 

Jack Burgess

 


Re: How would the carbon black product have been shipped prior...

ed_mines
 

Around 1981 I worked in a factory where we got it in bags and large cardboard boxes lined with plastic film. It had very light density.

Factory made copy machine toner.


Des Plaines SOO caboose

Clark Propst
 

I have a friend in need of a Centralia Hobbies SOO Line wood caboose model. Does anyone have a model they are willing to part with?
Thanks,
Clark Propst 


HO Models for sale

Brian Carlson
 

Continuing to consolidate, rationalize, and I decided to backdate slightly (Not as far as Ray Breyer wants me too) so I have some freight cars for sale. List is mostly plastic with some resin. contact me off-list at prrk41361 AT yahoo DOT com if you'd like the list.

Brian J Carlson 
Cheektowaga NY 


RCW update

Eric Hansmann
 

An update on Resin Car Works order processing has been posted on our blog. Don’t miss the upcoming kit teasers. 
http://blog.resincarworks.com/rcw-vacation/


Eric Hansmann
RCW web guy


Re: carbon black product

Ray Hutchison
 

Carbon black (subtypes are acetylene blackchannel blackfurnace blacklamp black andthermal black) is a material produced by the incomplete combustion of heavy petroleum products such as FCC tar, coal tar, or ethylene cracking tar. Carbon black is a form of paracrystalline carbonthat has a high surface-area-to-volume ratio, albeit lower than that of activated carbon. It is dissimilar to soot in its much higher surface-area-to-volume ratio and significantly lower (negligible and non-bioavailable) polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbon (PAH) content. However, carbon black is widely used as a model compound for diesel soot for diesel oxidation experiments.[2][better source needed] Carbon black is mainly used as a reinforcing filler in tires and other rubber products. In plastics, paints, and inks, carbon black is used as a color pigment.[3]

The current International Agency for Research on Cancer (IARC) evaluation is that, "Carbon black is possibly carcinogenic to humans (Group 2B)".[4] Short-term exposure to high concentrations of carbon black dust may produce discomfort to the upper respiratory tract, through mechanical irritation.


Re: Congratulations to Clark

Jared Harper
 

. .  .and a Santa Fe box car at that.8>)

Jared Harper


Re: DuPont tank car DUPX 254 - October 1944

Tim O'Connor
 


The two tank cars are very close in size - 11053 gallons vs 11313 gallons. I don't know why
one has 6 segments and the other 7, but the difference in gallons may not be related to the length
of the tanks. A very small difference in diameter could do that.




On 2/5/2021 11:10 PM, nyc3001 . wrote:
I think the Atlas car is different because it has a six-course tank instead of a seven-course tank as in the photo of DUPX 3257. Also, the tank looks longer than the Atlas tank. The Atlas car also has a welded underframe as opposed to a riveted underframe.

3257 reminds me a little bit of the OMI 3028 ACF tank though the Overland model's prototype is about 10 years older and has no dome platform.

-Phil



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Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: DuPont tank car DUPX 254 - October 1944

nyc3001 .
 

I think the Atlas car is different because it has a six-course tank instead of a seven-course tank as in the photo of DUPX 3257. Also, the tank looks longer than the Atlas tank. The Atlas car also has a welded underframe as opposed to a riveted underframe.

3257 reminds me a little bit of the OMI 3028 ACF tank though the Overland model's prototype is about 10 years older and has no dome platform.

-Phil

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