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Re: GRAB IRONS

Allen Cain
 

FYI Atlas still has wire grab irons listed on their website:


Scroll down and you will see them.

Allen Cain 

Re: GRAB IRONS

Allen Cain
 

Tichy also offers grab irons and are very affordable.  Both Tangent and Tichy use Phosphor Bronze wire.  Does anyone use a material that is stronger such as stainless steel?

Allen Cain

Q Question

Clark Propst
 

I started assembling a CB&Q single sheathed double steel door box car XM 11? Instructions show door and a half cars and those with steel double doors. The double door cars have raised roofs. My model has the correct side bracing for the double steel doors, but not the roof extensions. Is there a version with steel double doors without the raised roof? Or do I need to fabricate my own extension?
Thanks,
CW Propst

Re: reefer MDT 13755 on display at the Fulton County Museum

Tim O'Connor
 

Don

I thought it might be a LOCK of some kind - that car was STATIONARY at that
location for a very long time. Photos taken at least two years apart show it
in precisely the same spot, rusted to the rail. It was in use for storage.



On 2/16/2020 6:36 AM, Donald B. Valentine via Groups.Io wrote:
Hi Tim, 

   Your comment brings the question of what good woud such an appliance be if the car
were NOT in revenue service? Also, your photo of 11945 seems to show a galvanized roof
that was not painted. Is that correct and can you provide a date for your photo?

Thank you. Don Valentine


--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts

Re: Missouri-Illinois RR book plug

Charlie Duckworth
 

Pricing is in the link in my posting plus information on the chapters, number of pages, etc. 
--
Charlie Duckworth 
Omaha, Ne.

Re: reefer MDT 13755 on display at the Fulton County Museum

Donald B. Valentine
 

Hi Tim, 

   Your comment brings the question of what good woud such an appliance be if the car
were NOT in revenue service? Also, your photo of 11945 seems to show a galvanized roof
that was not painted. Is that correct and can you provide a date for your photo?

Thank you. Don Valentine

SOLD: The MV Lenses offered for sale have been sold

Andy Carlson
 

These have found a new home. Thanks,
-Andy Carlson
Ojai CA




Hello-

I have 53 new MV Products lenses I am offering as a single lot for sale. Also included are 6 opened partials.

Buy all 59 packages for $110, shipping included to the US. I accept checks and money orders. With a small fee I accept PayPal. Contact me off-list (please) for details at <midcentury@...>

Re: MV Products Question

Nelson Moyer
 

That was 2019. This is 2020. I left a voicemail at the web site number, and to date it hasn’t been returned.

 

Nelson Moyer

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill McGuire
Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2020 7:55 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] MV Products Question

 

Hello; I have been dealing direct with MV Lens for over 30 years. I write to M.V. Products, PO. Box 6622, Orange, CA. (92613-6622). My last order was Oct. 2018 and all the requested lens I ordered were available. I paid by money order. I have never been shorted by buying direct. Service is goods and the postage is reasonable. Regards, Bill

Re: GRAB IRONS

Todd Sullivan
 

Yes, it probably should have been a freight car, but that certainly is a fine looking locomotive.  I especially like the weathering.

Todd Sullivan

Re: GRAB IRONS

Dave Parker
 

Bill:

Tangent also offers 0.008 grabs in both straight and drop.  Not sure how shipping costs compare.

And I agree about the improved appearance with scale grabs.  I haven't used anything larger than 0.010 in a long time.
--
Dave Parker
Swall Meadows, CA

GRAB IRONS

WILLIAM PARDIE
 

Oops! Sorry! That was supposed to be a freight car photo. Well, I guess that we need something to haul those cars around.

Bill Pardie

Re: MV Products Question

Bill McGuire
 

Hello; I have been dealing direct with MV Lens for over 30 years. I write to M.V. Products, PO. Box 6622, Orange, CA. (92613-6622). My last order was Oct. 2018 and all the requested lens I ordered were available. I paid by money order. I have never been shorted by buying direct. Service is goods and the postage is reasonable. Regards, Bill

GRAB IRONS

WILLIAM PARDIE
 



Several years ago I learned that BLMA was offering grab irons in both straight and drop styles that were done with .008 wire.  The wire was strong enough that it did not distort when handled.  I found this to be a real time saver in creating the grabs and also they really made a difference in the appearance of the models.  I guess that BLMA was sold to Atlas a short time later and the grabs were subsequently dropped from the line.  I just found some on line that were marketed as Atlas/BLMA.  I was delighted to find these as I am sure many of you will as we.  I bought mine from a dealer who apparently thought that shipping to Hawaii was like shipping to Bagdad.  I’m sure that a better chip[ping rate could be found.

Bill Pardie

FS: Morning Sun Color Guides

Scott H. Haycock
 

I have several Morning Sun Color Guides for sale:

All books are in very good/excellent shape with a little wear on the dust jackets.

Media Mail shipping in a Box is included. I prefer PayPal F&F. 

B&O- © 1996. 

D&H- © 1997. 

WM- © 1995. 

The above 3 are $38.00 each.

L&N, vol. 1- © 2000

Erie / DL&W- © 2001

ACL- © 2000

These 3 are &43.00 each.

NYC, vol. 2- © 2005

PRR, vol. 3- © 2002

These last 2 are $48.00 each

Please respond OFF LIST to shhavcockATcomcastDOT net.

Thank you, Scott Haycock

Re: Southern LC "Boxcar" With Vent?

D. Scott Chatfield
 

The 50-foot LCs were converted in the late '70s.  The cars converted in the late '60s were all 40-footers AFAIK.  A look in the April 1972 ORER appears to confirm this.

The former NS 50-foot LCs predate the Southern's.  Don't know if they were built for kaolin or phosphate.  I know they were used for kaolin after the Southern bought the NS.

The ORER definition of an LC is "a house car with roof hatches and side doors.  May also have end doors."

I recall looking in my 1964 ORER years ago and finding very few LCs, so they are definitely a post-1960 thing.

Scott Chatfield

Re: Southern LC "Boxcar" With Vent?

Ed Hawkins
 



On Feb 14, 2020, at 12:47 PM, Garth Groff and Sally Sanford <mallardlodge1000@...> wrote:

While digitizing my old negatives, I ran across this photo of Southern 50' PS-1 34242 shot in Charlottesville circa 1987. If I read George Elwood's Fallen Flags web site correctly this is not a boxcar at all, but a covered hopper (type LC, note the roof hatches). Photos on Elwood's site show these cars were often covered in some sort of white powder, which I suspect is kaolin.

According to Ed Hawkins' PS-1 article in RMJ 1995, there were no original Southern PS-1s with this number, so it must be a conversion / renumbering. These are not listed my October 1958 ORER. Can anyone comment on whether these cars were converted during our period of interest (as in 1961 or before)?

Also of interest is what appears to be a small end vent (see the partial view). I see this on other converted PS-1s on the Fallen Flags site. Is this indeed a vent, and to what purpose? 

Garth,
For those interested in the end vents, attached is a one-page PDF list of 50’ PS-1 box cars confirmed to have end vents when built by Pullman-Standard from 1956 to 1960. Southern's cars had 6 vents per end while L&N’s cars had 3 vents per end. The side panels denote the number to the left & right of the door. It’s certainly possible there were other built new with end vents, as well as cars modified with vents by the railroads. 

In the Southern Railway Equipment Drawings and Photographs, Volume II, Book I, page 100 has end drawing SF-20070 showing the arrangement with 6 vents that cover 1” diameter vent holes with center lines that follow the roof line. The vent covers are .10” pressed plate of various lengths in the general shape of vertical angles covered at the top & welded to the top end sheet. It’s my understanding the vents were for air flow desired in wood pulp service.

Thanks to George (Ike) Eichelberger & the SRHA for publishing two outstanding 40’ & 50’ box/auto car books to date. 

Please advise if you know of any other new 50’ PS-1 box cars with end vents and/or if the list contains any errors.
Regards,
Ed Hawkins






Re: Missouri-Illinois RR book plug

Jeffrey White
 

I've already got my reservation in. The M&I has a role on my Centralia, IL 1955 era layout.  I'm really looking forward to it.

Jeff White

Alma, IL

On 2/15/2020 8:09 AM, Charlie Duckworth wrote:
I’m hoping these will be printed before the RPM in Collinsville and we’ll have them available at the Missouri Pacific Historical Society tables but providing a reservation helps decide on the number to print. 
--
Charlie Duckworth 
Omaha, Ne.

MV Lenses offered for sale

Andy Carlson
 

Hello-

I have 53 new MV Products lenses I am offering as a single lot for sale. Also included are 6 opened partials.

Buy all 59 packages for $110, shipping included to the US. I accept checks and money orders. With a small fee I accept PayPal. Contact me off-list (please) for details at <midcentury@...>

I have the following numberings:
LS 18  (1)*
LS 19
LS 22  (5) *
LS 24  **
LS 25 (1) *
LS 25 (3)
LS 110 (2)
LS 117 (2)
LS 129
LS 137 (2)
LS 150
LS 160 (2)
LS 200 (2)
LS 220
LS 221 (*)
LS 222
LS 300 (4)
LS 301 (2)q
LS 500
LS 700 (16)
LS 701
LS 702 (4)

Quantities are in ( ), * indicates an open package with some missing lenses

Thanks,
-Andy Carlson
Ojai CA

Re: ATSF Automobile cars/door color

Jon Miller
 

On 2/15/2020 8:35 AM, ottokroutil via Groups.Io wrote:
 the train in the fuzzy frame was pulled by ATSF power and had an ATSF waycar, obviously on home rails.

    Did I miss the date of the picture or was it given?

-- 
Jon Miller
For me time stopped in 1941
Digitrax  Chief/Zephyr systems, JMRI User
SPROG User
NMRA Life member #2623
Member SFRH&MS

Re: ATSF Automobile cars/door color

ottokroutil
 

Ah, that would explain the door color and lettering, mystery solved. Thank you Al, for providing great information about the cars. That’s why I enjoy this group.
For what it’s worth, the train in the fuzzy frame was pulled by ATSF power and had an ATSF waycar, obviously on home rails.