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Re: Completely New Resin

Bill Welch
 

Jared, I am retired. I don't do anything unless it is fun.

Bill Welch


Re: Completely New Resin

tyesac@...
 

Funny, verrrrry funny.  One question though... wasn't one of them equipped with internal racks to ship left handed monkey wrenches used to make perpetual motion machines? 

Tom Casey
The six cars were converted to Geometry cars. It's good to see that models will soon be available.

Isn't history interesting?

Tom Madden



-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Skibbe mskibbe@... [STMFC] To: STMFC
Sent: Sun, Jun 12, 2016 8:35 am
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Re: Completely New Resin

 
Post of the year, Tom!

Mike Skibbe

On Jun 11, 2016, at 7:58 PM, Brian carlson prrk41361@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:

 
Someone 50 years from now will Google this and dear God help the prototype modelers then. 

Brian J. Carlson

On Jun 11, 2016, at 8:45 PM, pullmanboss@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:

 
There were six of those cars. They belonged to the Canadian National's Mexican subsidiary, CNdeM. Designed by August Ferdinand  Möbius, they were unique in all of North America in having three sides. Side "A" was lettered CANADIAN NATIONAL of MEXICO, side "B", CANADIEN NATIONAL du MEXIQUE, and side "C", CANADIAN NATIONAL de MÉXICO. They were used in sealed, bonded service transporting brightly colored household goods from Mexico to Canada, and monochromatic outdoor furniture on the return trips.

The service was terminated after a particularly tragic event, when several Canadian citizens, fleeing the oppressive ennui of their homeland in search of a new, if not flamboyant, at least less boring, life south of the border(s). died in a sealed boxcar that was inadvertently routed through Chicago. When the car was finally opened, their last, heartbreaking words were found written on one of the inside walls. Those words resonate to this day to citizens of our neighbor to the north seeking something better: "Beige is not a color!"

The six cars were converted to Geometry cars. It's good to see that models will soon be available.

Isn't history interesting?

Tom Madden
 


Re: Completely New Resin

Jared Harper
 



Bill,

Where did you get the idea  that building railroad models was supposed to be fun?

Jared Harper
Athens, GA


---In STMFC@..., <fgexbill@...> wrote :

Where would the fun be in that?!

Bill Welch


Re: Completely New Resin

skibbs4
 

Post of the year, Tom!

Mike Skibbe

On Jun 11, 2016, at 7:58 PM, Brian carlson prrk41361@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:

 

Someone 50 years from now will Google this and dear God help the prototype modelers then. 

Brian J. Carlson

On Jun 11, 2016, at 8:45 PM, pullmanboss@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:

 

There were six of those cars. They belonged to the Canadian National's Mexican subsidiary, CNdeM. Designed by August Ferdinand  Möbius, they were unique in all of North America in having three sides. Side "A" was lettered CANADIAN NATIONAL of MEXICO, side "B", CANADIEN NATIONAL du MEXIQUE, and side "C", CANADIAN NATIONAL de MÉXICO. They were used in sealed, bonded service transporting brightly colored household goods from Mexico to Canada, and monochromatic outdoor furniture on the return trips.


The service was terminated after a particularly tragic event, when several Canadian citizens, fleeing the oppressive ennui of their homeland in search of a new, if not flamboyant, at least less boring, life south of the border(s). died in a sealed boxcar that was inadvertently routed through Chicago. When the car was finally opened, their last, heartbreaking words were found written on one of the inside walls. Those words resonate to this day to citizens of our neighbor to the north seeking something better: "Beige is not a color!"


The six cars were converted to Geometry cars. It's good to see that models will soon be available.


Isn't history interesting?


Tom Madden

 


Re: Completely New Resin

Pierre Oliver
 

I fear I'm now going to have to rewrite the car history to include this gem.

Pierre Oliver
www.elgincarshops.com
www.yarmouthmodelworks.com
On 6/11/16 8:45 PM, pullmanboss@... [STMFC] wrote:

 

There were six of those cars. They belonged to the Canadian National's Mexican subsidiary, CNdeM. Designed by August Ferdinand  Möbius, they were unique in all of North America in having three sides. Side "A" was lettered CANADIAN NATIONAL of MEXICO, side "B", CANADIEN NATIONAL du MEXIQUE, and side "C", CANADIAN NATIONAL de MÉXICO. They were used in sealed, bonded service transporting brightly colored household goods from Mexico to Canada, and monochromatic outdoor furniture on the return trips.


The service was terminated after a particularly tragic event, when several Canadian citizens, fleeing the oppressive ennui of their homeland in search of a new, if not flamboyant, at least less boring, life south of the border(s). died in a sealed boxcar that was inadvertently routed through Chicago. When the car was finally opened, their last, heartbreaking words were found written on one of the inside walls. Those words resonate to this day to citizens of our neighbor to the north seeking something better: "Beige is not a color!"


The six cars were converted to Geometry cars. It's good to see that models will soon be available.


Isn't history interesting?


Tom Madden

 



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Mansell Peter Hambly
 



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Re: Completely New Resin

Charlie Vlk
 

These cars were equipped with Escher trucks at first which unfortunately were not successful because somehow the cars stayed in one place no matter how fast they were moved.
Charlie Vlk


Re: AT&SF Ship & Travel lettering

Benjamin Hom
 

Scott Chatfield wrote:

"Of all folks you'd figure Microscale would be all over anything Santa Fe."

The same could be said of Irv Athearn, and his batting average in regards to good Santa Fe models was surprising low.


Ben Hom


AT&SF Ship & Travel lettering

D. Scott Chatfield
 

Chuck Peck asked:

Not being well acquainted with the AT&SF, I am puzzled by the reference to a "S&T"
paint scheme. Can someone explain or post a link to a photo that illustrates the S&T?
This is the scheme in question, I believe:

http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/atsf/atsf09763jpa.jpg

Ship & Travel is very under-represented on model railroads and in manufacturers' offerings. Microscale has two sets with this logo in white, #s 267 and 323, and I don't know if they have the right size holy cross for the cars the original poster was asking about. Of all folks you'd figure Microscale would be all over anything Santa Fe.

I'm not aware of Intermountain doing this scheme on any of their 40-foot boxcars. Their website does not show all of their past offerings though.

Scott Chatfield


Re: Completely New Resin

Bill Welch
 

Where would the fun be in that?!

Bill Welch


Re: Completely New Resin

Bill Welch
 

Where would the fun be in that?!

Bill Welch


Re: Completely New Resin

Charles Peck
 

Tom, Having examined some of the work of Mobius, I feel compelled to ask.
Is it truly certain that the Mobius boxcars had three sides?  Or really just one side
with three different paint and lettering schemes?  Somewhere there MUST be a 
photograph of the INSIDE of such a car. Unless, of course, we ONLY have
interior shots and lack the outside views.  Did anyone ever look to see if the
other side of a Mobius car was right side up?  And how would one know when
a round trip had been completed?  Geometry students are hoping this is not
on their final test.
Chuck Peck in FL (Or in Hell, depending on if the lawn needs mowed.)

On Sat, Jun 11, 2016 at 10:15 PM, 'Schuyler Larrabee' schuyler.larrabee@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:
 

“Isn't history interesting?”

>Tom Madden

When you write it, Tom, it’s hilarious!

Schuyler

From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...]
Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2016 8:45 PM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Re: Completely New Resin

There were six of those cars. They belonged to the Canadian National's Mexican subsidiary, CNdeM. Designed by August Ferdinand Möbius, they were unique in all of North America in having three sides. Side "A" was lettered CANADIAN NATIONAL of MEXICO, side "B", CANADIEN NATIONAL du MEXIQUE, and side "C", CANADIAN NATIONAL de MÉXICO. They were used in sealed, bonded service transporting brightly colored household goods from Mexico to Canada, and monochromatic outdoor furniture on the return trips.

The service was terminated after a particularly tragic event, when several Canadian citizens, fleeing the oppressive ennui of their homeland in search of a new, if not flamboyant, at least less boring, life south of the border(s). died in a sealed boxcar that was inadvertently routed through Chicago. When the car was finally opened, their last, heartbreaking words were found written on one of the inside walls. Those words resonate to this day to citizens of our neighbor to the north seeking something better: "Beige is not a color!"

The six cars were converted to Geometry cars. It's good to see that models will soon be available.

Isn't history interesting?

Tom Madden

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Re: Fw: Re: Intermountain ATSF BX-37s

Jim Williams <wwww5960@...>
 

Ship and travel


On Saturday, June 11, 2016 7:02 PM, "Charles Peck lnnrr152@... [STMFC]" wrote:


 
Thank you folks for the enlightenment.  I've seen that S&T scheme, just failed to make the connection.
Chuck Peck in FL

On Sat, Jun 11, 2016 at 9:41 PM, Benjamin Hom b.hom@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:
 
Chuck Peck asked:
"Not being well acquainted with the AT&SF, I am puzzled by the reference to a "S&T" 
paint scheme.  Can someone explain or post a link to a photo that illustrates the S&T?"

S&T = Ship and Travel Santa Fe

Large Circle and Cross on a Class Bx-52 PS-1 (after the era of this list)




Re: Completely New Resin

Robert kirkham
 

LOL!  Definitely one of the funniest yet.

 

Rob

 

From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...]
Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2016 6:08 PM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Re: Completely New Resin

 




That is probably the funniest post I've ever seen on a yahoo group. Bravo sir, BRAVO!


On Jun 11, 2016, at 8:58 PM, Brian carlson prrk41361@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:

 

Someone 50 years from now will Google this and dear God help the prototype modelers then. 

Brian J. Carlson


On Jun 11, 2016, at 8:45 PM, pullmanboss@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:

 

There were six of those cars. They belonged to the Canadian National's Mexican subsidiary, CNdeM. Designed by August Ferdinand  Möbius, they were unique in all of North America in having three sides. Side "A" was lettered CANADIAN NATIONAL of MEXICO, side "B", CANADIEN NATIONAL du MEXIQUE, and side "C", CANADIAN NATIONAL de MÉXICO. They were used in sealed, bonded service transporting brightly colored household goods from Mexico to Canada, and monochromatic outdoor furniture on the return trips.

 

The service was terminated after a particularly tragic event, when several Canadian citizens, fleeing the oppressive ennui of their homeland in search of a new, if not flamboyant, at least less boring, life south of the border(s). died in a sealed boxcar that was inadvertently routed through Chicago. When the car was finally opened, their last, heartbreaking words were found written on one of the inside walls. Those words resonate to this day to citizens of our neighbor to the north seeking something better: "Beige is not a color!"

 

The six cars were converted to Geometry cars. It's good to see that models will soon be available.

 

Isn't history interesting?

 

Tom Madden

 





Re: Completely New Resin

Schuyler Larrabee
 

“Isn't history interesting?”

Tom Madden
When you write it, Tom, it’s hilarious!



Schuyler



From: STMFC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:STMFC@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2016 8:45 PM
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Subject: Re: [STMFC] Re: Completely New Resin





There were six of those cars. They belonged to the Canadian National's Mexican subsidiary, CNdeM. Designed by August Ferdinand Möbius, they were unique in all of North America in having three sides. Side "A" was lettered CANADIAN NATIONAL of MEXICO, side "B", CANADIEN NATIONAL du MEXIQUE, and side "C", CANADIAN NATIONAL de MÉXICO. They were used in sealed, bonded service transporting brightly colored household goods from Mexico to Canada, and monochromatic outdoor furniture on the return trips.



The service was terminated after a particularly tragic event, when several Canadian citizens, fleeing the oppressive ennui of their homeland in search of a new, if not flamboyant, at least less boring, life south of the border(s). died in a sealed boxcar that was inadvertently routed through Chicago. When the car was finally opened, their last, heartbreaking words were found written on one of the inside walls. Those words resonate to this day to citizens of our neighbor to the north seeking something better: "Beige is not a color!"



The six cars were converted to Geometry cars. It's good to see that models will soon be available.



Isn't history interesting?



Tom Madden


CENTRAL VALLEY STOCK CAR KIT

WILLIAM PARDIE
 

A while back at a Naperville dinner the topic of the Central Valley Northern Pacific stock car kit came up. Most at the table agreed that
it was a great kit. Consequently I purchased the kit although it had not been on my radar until then.

I sat on the kit for a long time and subsequently learned that the body was too wide. The NP HIstorical Society had cast up ends of the proper
width along with conversion instructions. I completed the conversion and the car has now been sitting for some time as the underbody
cross members are not really located where they should be.

I had heard somewhere recently that Central Valley was going to rerelease the kit with the proper wocar width and underbody. Did
anyone else hear this and does anyone know if it is actually going to happen?

Bill Pardie


Re: Fw: Re: Intermountain ATSF BX-37s

Charles Peck
 

Thank you folks for the enlightenment.  I've seen that S&T scheme, just failed to make the connection.
Chuck Peck in FL

On Sat, Jun 11, 2016 at 9:41 PM, Benjamin Hom b.hom@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:
 

Chuck Peck asked:
"Not being well acquainted with the AT&SF, I am puzzled by the reference to a "S&T" 
paint scheme.  Can someone explain or post a link to a photo that illustrates the S&T?"

S&T = Ship and Travel Santa Fe

Large Circle and Cross on a Class Bx-52 PS-1 (after the era of this list)



Re: Fw: Re: Intermountain ATSF BX-37s

Benjamin Hom
 

Chuck Peck asked:
"Not being well acquainted with the AT&SF, I am puzzled by the reference to a "S&T" 
paint scheme.  Can someone explain or post a link to a photo that illustrates the S&T?"

S&T = Ship and Travel Santa Fe

Large Circle and Cross on a Class Bx-52 PS-1 (after the era of this list)
http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/atsf/atsf276502ajs.jpg


Ben Hom



Re: Intermountain ATSF BX-37s

Richard Townsend
 

S&T stands for "Ship and Travel Santa Fe" which was lettered on the sides of boxcars and reefers. Some of Intermountain's ATSF reefers are shown on the IM site with that scheme.
 
Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, OR
 
 

-----Original Message-----
From: Charles Peck lnnrr152@... [STMFC]
To: STMFC
Sent: Sat, Jun 11, 2016 6:30 pm
Subject: Re: Fw: [STMFC] Re: Intermountain ATSF BX-37s

 
Not being well acquainted with the AT&SF, I am puzzled by the reference to a "S&T" 
paint scheme.  Can someone explain or post a link to a photo that illustrates the S&T?
Chuck Peck in FL

On Sat, Jun 11, 2016 at 4:18 PM, ron.merrick@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:
 
Somehow this thought drifted off track.  I lived in Santa Fe country during my formative years and have never been far from it since, in fact I'm in Wichita right now.  My question wasn't about Santa Fe painting the cars, but rather whether Intermountain ever did a run of these cars in the 59 to 71 circle-cross S&T scheme.  I find it hard to believe, in all the early and late versions they've done, and knowing Intermountain's propensity for overdoing things they think will sell, that I've never seen this scheme.  And there are a lot of things I miss because of not paying enough attention, but this seems hard to believe from that standpoint also. 

Thanks to all who posted photos anyway.

Ron Merrick



JM Huber decals

Richard Townsend
 

Jerry Glow did a set of decals for a 2-dome tank car lettered for lease to JM Huber. Does anyone have a set they would be willing to sell?
 
Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, OR
 

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