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R-40-10 reefers

Fred Jansz
 

Hi all,
I have like 10 Intermountain R-40-10 PFE reefers in kit form. A few of these are the 'premium line' edition with wooden etched roofwalk, and other details not on the 'regular' IM versions.
Of course I'd like to add the etched roofwalk to the others as well. But where can I find these? Any idea? Thanks.
best regards, Fred Jansz



Re: Beer Reefers for Everyone

Tony Thompson
 

Mark Rickert wrote:

 
I suspect "everyone" is a bit missleading, another bit of reserch for folks particularly in the south. Prohibition didn't end in some areas until long after this group's cutoff so knowing what areas could or could not have the traffic is another subject to research. 

    Mark is right. Prohibition was repealed as a national law, but states were permitted to continue restrictive laws for that state, including county option laws,

Tony Thompson             Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
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Publishers of books on railroad history






Re: Beer Reefers for Everyone

Brad Smith
 

I bet the beer cars passed THRU your county. 

Brad Smith 

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On Jun 3, 2016, at 4:40 AM, caboose9792 caboose9792@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:

 

I suspect "everyone" is a bit missleading, another bit of reserch for folks particularly in the south. Prohibition didn't end in some areas until long after this group's cutoff so knowing what areas could or could not have the traffic is another subject to research. 


Mark Rickert - living in a county that is stil "dry"



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Date: 06/02/2016 9:55 AM (GMT-06:00)
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Subject: [STMFC] Beer Reefers for Everyone

 

Since cars which are conspicuous by their absence in our modeling world have been mentioned: DSDX and SLRX insulated boxcars for hauling beer from Milwaukee or St. Louis are sorely needed. Unless someone is modeling Milwaukee or St. Louis, obtaining a fleet of either is unnecessary, but everyone can use one of each no matter what part of the country is modeled.

A resin caster can make an impact here.

Steve Hoxie
Pensacola FL



HO Viking roofs 8-rung Ladders Apex R.B.s

Andy Carlson
 

Hello-
I have good quantities of the following Intermountain HO ladders, Viking roofs and etched metal running boards.

Centralia Car Shops/Intermountain Viking 40' roofs. Fit Red Caboose and Intermountain 40' box cars. $2.50/each

8-rung ladders for a 10'6" IH box car. This is their Canadian 8-rung ladder in that the side sill step is integral with the ladder. Most USA users will clip off that step. $2/sprue of 4 ladders.

Apex Tri-Lock etched metal running board for 40' steel roofs. Laterals are integral with running board.  $3/each.

Red Caboose X29 Creco 3-panel doors.  3/pairs for $1
Red Caboose X29 Youngstown doors.     3/pairs for $1

Shipping is $3.50 in protected packaging by 1st class mail. I accept checks and money orders. for a small fee I also accept PayPal.

Contact me Off-List (Please) if interested or have questions, at .

Thanks,
-Andy Carlson
Ojai CA


water tank

Jon Miller
 

While not a freight car comment at least this is the right era.  I got a chance to see the SP water tank (listed at Shapeways) at one of our Friday lunches.  It's a thing of beauty.

Search RR water tank by RRRarch.  Tank and stand are separate.


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For me time stopped in 1941
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Re: 3D Printing at the Library

Jack Burgess
 

As Al mentioned, the affordable printers use a completely different technology than the printers commercial firms use. I’ve used Shapeways for all of my 3D prints (nearly 50 projects) and their 3D printers cost around $100,000 each. But I embrace libraries which purchase affordable ones since it can encourage residents, and kids especially, to learn the software and produce something themselves. It just might encourage them to think about 3D drafting as a career…



Jack Burgess



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As I said I have no illusions about doing this myself. Also very curious who will show up for the session. I am aware that one purveyor of Resin Kits will be doing a series of kits with patterns for roofs and ends generated thru 3D printing. It is interesting to me that libraries are buying these.



Bill Welch










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Re: 3D Printing at the Library

Bill Welch
 

As I said I have no illusions about doing this myself. Also very curious who will show up for the session. I am aware that one purveyor of Resin Kits will be doing a series of kits with patterns for roofs and ends generated thru 3D printing. It is interesting to me that libraries are buying these.

Bill Welch


Re: 3D Printing at the Library

 

The local junior college here in Crossville, TN has one.  By paying a small fee anyone can schedule time on the machine.  In fact, the professor is a model railroader who exhibited his work at a division clinic recently.  Unfortunately, the quality of the machine is not good enough for prototype modeling purposes.  But give it time. – Al Westerfield
 

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Subject: [STMFC] 3D Printing at the Library
 
 

On a visit to one of my local libraries I ask he they were looking to buy one because I know many libraries are doing so. In fact this one had purchased one and were offering an Introduction on June 22. This the Largo, FL library. I have too many projects to learn the drawing, etc. necessary for this but I have signed up simply so I can observe the magic. I post this because others of you might want to make the same inquiry.


Bill Welch


Re: NYC Covered Hoppers

Tom Fedor
 

>>>Eastern Car Works used to offer an NYC kit<<<
I might have access to a few of these kits. Contact me off list <frederickjct@...> if interested and I'll see what is available.
-Tom Fedor, Thurmont, MD


Re: Watch "Joe Bonamassa - From the Album Clammy and Cold Eze Sing the Delta Classics.The NyQuil Blues..." on YouTube

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Pity it was good there's lots of Joe Bonamassa on u tube.
Paul 




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Re: Beer Reefers for Everyone

caboose9792 <caboose9792@...>
 

I suspect "everyone" is a bit missleading, another bit of reserch for folks particularly in the south. Prohibition didn't end in some areas until long after this group's cutoff so knowing what areas could or could not have the traffic is another subject to research. 


Mark Rickert - living in a county that is stil "dry"



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-------- Original message --------
From: "stevehprr@... [STMFC]" <STMFC@...>
Date: 06/02/2016 9:55 AM (GMT-06:00)
To: STMFC@...
Subject: [STMFC] Beer Reefers for Everyone

 

Since cars which are conspicuous by their absence in our modeling world have been mentioned: DSDX and SLRX insulated boxcars for hauling beer from Milwaukee or St. Louis are sorely needed. Unless someone is modeling Milwaukee or St. Louis, obtaining a fleet of either is unnecessary, but everyone can use one of each no matter what part of the country is modeled.

A resin caster can make an impact here.

Steve Hoxie
Pensacola FL



Re: Rutland Wheel Reports - Reefers (was Re: NYC Covered Hoppers)

Eric Hansmann
 

Thanks, Doug. I pulled my copy of “Billboard Refrigerator Cars” by Hendrickson and Kaminski. There are six photos of DSDX cars beginning on page 171. W

A modern car can be found on page 206.

Eric Hansmann
El Paso, TX

On Jun 2, 2016, at 2:45 PM, 'Douglas Harding' doug.harding@iowacentralrr.org [STMFC] <STMFC@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

“Billboard Refrigerator Cars” by Hendrickson and Kaminski.


Re: Beer Reefers for Everyone

John Barry
 

Deve,

Yes they did and documentation of some of those shipments still exists in the archives.  I saw reference to one such shipment last week.

John
 
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From: "'Dave Nelson' Lake_Muskoka@... [STMFC]"
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Thursday, June 2, 2016 4:05 PM
Subject: RE: [STMFC] Beer Reefers for Everyone

 
I agree but here’s a question about concentration on the receiving side: Did the U.S. military ship beer from U.S. ports to bases overseas? If yes one might reasonably conclude that in WWII one might see a considerable concentration of “beer reefers” headed towards embarkation ports.

Dave Nelson

From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...]
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2016 7:56 AM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: [STMFC] Beer Reefers for Everyone

Since cars which are conspicuous by their absence in our modeling world have been mentioned: DSDX and SLRX insulated boxcars for hauling beer from Milwaukee or St. Louis are sorely needed. Unless someone is modeling Milwaukee or St. Louis, obtaining a fleet of either is unnecessary, but everyone can use one of each no matter what part of the country is modeled.

A resin caster can make an impact here.

Steve Hoxie
Pensacola FL






3D Printing at the Library

Bill Welch
 

On a visit to one of my local libraries I ask he they were looking to buy one because I know many libraries are doing so. In fact this one had purchased one and were offering an Introduction on June 22. This the Largo, FL library. I have too many projects to learn the drawing, etc. necessary for this but I have signed up simply so I can observe the magic. I post this because others of you might want to make the same inquiry.


Bill Welch


Re: Rutland Wheel Reports - Reefers (was Re: NYC Covered Hoppers)

Douglas Harding
 

For those who hate Yahoo’s search, here is the gist of Richard’s message #70293

 

Dairy Shippers' fleet varied a lot over the years, as it consisted almost entirely of second-hand cars.  Early in its history, Dairy Shippers actually shipped dairy products, as I have a poor quality photo (undated, but probably late 1920s or early 1930s) of a DSDX car with billboard lettering for the Litchfield Produce Co. of Litchfield, Wis., shippers of, to quote the lettering on the car side, " fancy eggs, butter, poultry, canned eggs."  (Canned eggs?  Say, what?)  By the post-WW-II period, however, DSDX traffic was mostly, if not entirely, beer, and though its second-hand reefers kept their ice hatches, the bunkers were removed and they were listed in the ORERs as RBs, that is, insulated box cars.  As his been previously noted on this list, continuing to call the company Dairy Shippers Despatch, though its main source of revenue was beer, was intentionally misleading, as cars that were known to carry beer were chronic targets for pilferage.  I have two photos of DSDX RBs from the early 1950s, and though different, both are former Merchants Despatch Transportation Co. (i.e., New York Central System)refrigerator cars.  Unfortunately, there are no HO scale kits for either car, but they are 40' wood sheathed reefers of typical dimensions and construction, so it should be fairly easy to kitbash one from a Branchline or Accurail reefer kit.

 

RE: his comment regarding “canned eggs”. There were facilities in the mid-west that cracked eggs on site, then shipped them, sans shell, in large 5 gallon tin cans to bakeries, etc. There was also a market for hard boiled eggs and pickled hard boiled eggs, which were “canned” in gallon size glass jars. No doubt Litchfield Produce was providing such service.

 

Appreciate Tony’s reference to the excellent book “Billboard Refrigerator Cars” by Hendrickson and Kaminski. I would have turned to my copy, but it is packed awaiting the movers. The book contains some excellent citations about companies who owned the reefers photographed. I believe Gene Green’s “Refrigerator Car Color Guide” by Morning Sun, may also have some Dairy Despatch images.

 

The Jim Sands collection contains a slide of a DSDX plugged door car #5172 with a MILW logo and lettered Refrigerator, coupled to a second DSDX car #5352. Taken in the 60’s it shows 5172 was blt 5-51 and reweighed MS 11-60

 

To complicate things, there is this image http://s291.photobucket.com/user/djs_ank_ak/media/BeerRailcars/DSDX_8174_Chicago_1972.jpg.html Though it appears it was taken long after the cut off date of this list, so may be irrelevant to our discussion.

 

 

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As usual, Richard Hendrickson could be depended upon to shed light where obscurity existed. For a much abbreviated view of DSDX and its loadings, see msg #70293 on this Yahoo group.

Steve Hoxie
Pensacola FL

 


Re: Watch "Joe Bonamassa - From the Album Clammy and Cold Eze Sing the Delta Classics.The NyQuil Blues..." on YouTube

david ellzey
 

That didn't work either:-((((
Dave



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Re: Watch "Joe Bonamassa - From the Album Clammy and Cold Eze Sing the Delta Classics.The NyQuil Blues..." on YouTube

Barry Bennett
 

S'all right, enjoyed the twang, even if not a real fan.

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Re: Beer Reefers for Everyone

Bruce Smith
 

Interestingly, a sort of “mini-prohibition” occurred during WWI when grain was diverted to other purposes.

Regards

Bruce


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Auburn, AL

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On Jun 2, 2016, at 3:05 PM, STMFC@... wrote:

I agree but here’s a question about concentration on the receiving side: Did the U.S. military ship beer from U.S. ports to bases overseas?  If yes one might reasonably conclude that in WWII one might see a considerable concentration of “beer reefers” headed towards embarkation ports.



Dave Nelson

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Since cars which are conspicuous by their absence in our modeling world have been mentioned: DSDX and SLRX insulated boxcars for hauling beer from Milwaukee or St. Louis are sorely needed. Unless someone is modeling Milwaukee or St. Louis, obtaining a fleet of either is unnecessary, but everyone can use one of each no matter what part of the country is modeled.

A resin caster can make an impact here.

Steve Hoxie
Pensacola FL


Re: Watch "Joe Bonamassa - From the Album Clammy and Cold Eze Sing the Delta Classics.The NyQuil Blues..." on YouTube

paul.doggett2472 <paul.doggett2472@...>
 

Sorry don't know how that happened
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