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Re: Looking for RESIN

dale florence <dwwesley@...>
 

I have three of these kits, CN 207000, GTW 206999 and NP 9000. I don't have the instruction sheet for the NP car.


From: Schleigh Mike mike_schleigh@... [STMFC] ;
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Subject: [STMFC] Looking for RESIN
Sent: Wed, Jun 8, 2016 3:04:24 PM



Hello Steam Era Model Railroaders!

I would like to have one or more of the following one Sunshine and five Norwest kits.  I will pay reasonable and fair value for same.

Sunshine Models  #65.1  Single Sheathed Boxcar  ----  NP 14500-999, 20000-499 series w/ NP proprietary roof,
D'naught ends, "A" lumber door, 1932-60s decals

Also the following Norwest SUF reefer kits  ----
 
107 GTW 206900-206999 wood freight reefer
108 CN 207000-series wood freight reefer
109 CP 284414-288477 wood freight reefer
111 CP 288750-289399 wood freight reefer
113 NP 90000-90999 wood freight reefer

Please respond off-line  ----  [mike_schleigh@...]

Thank you!    Mike Schleigh  Grove City, Penna.



You Tube videos

Allen Montgomery
 

Howdy folks!
I have been having fun with a new camcorder. So, I decided to dump some videos on you tube to let you know what I've been up to, if your interested. Search for Allen Scott Montgomery on you tube. Sorry, I'm not savvy enough to know how to link it. There's a little bit for steam or diesel fans, with more to come.
Allen


Re: Ambroid cement

mwbauers
 

Ed and guys.....

Do not worry so.

It is in regular production and after a bit of searching on Google if nowhere else, you can find it in micro-seconds for sale, fresh on shelves all around the place.

If the local hardware or artists supply stores don't have it, you can order it from the online hobby shops or even Amazon.com.

The guy on eBay overpaid, those same tubes sell for a bit over $3 each today from online sources.

When the topic came up a day or so ago, I looked online and found it easily in a great many places. It's also in most of the hardware stores and artist supply stores around me as well as in the hobby shops.

Mike Bauers


On Jun 8, 2016, at 9:51 AM, "ed_mines@... [STMFC]" <STMFC@...> wrote:

 

A box (12 tubes) of Ambroid cement sold for $133 on ebay. Guess I'm not the only one who misses it,


Ed Mines


Looking for RESIN

Schleigh Mike
 

Hello Steam Era Model Railroaders!

I would like to have one or more of the following one Sunshine and five Norwest kits.  I will pay reasonable and fair value for same.

Sunshine Models  #65.1  Single Sheathed Boxcar  ----  NP 14500-999, 20000-499 series w/ NP proprietary roof,
D'naught ends, "A" lumber door, 1932-60s decals

Also the following Norwest SUF reefer kits  ----
 
107 GTW 206900-206999 wood freight reefer
108 CN 207000-series wood freight reefer
109 CP 284414-288477 wood freight reefer
111 CP 288750-289399 wood freight reefer
113 NP 90000-90999 wood freight reefer

Please respond off-line  ----  [mike_schleigh@...]

Thank you!    Mike Schleigh  Grove City, Penna.


Ambroid cement

ed_mines
 

A box (12 tubes) of Ambroid cement sold for $133 on ebay. Guess I'm not the only one who misses it,


Ed Mines


Re: Truck mounting

riverman_vt@...
 




---In STMFC@..., <lucas@...> wrote :

I place a drop of carpenters' yellow glue (aliphatic resin for our UK readers) on the tip of the screw before inserting it into a tapped truck screw hole in the bolster.  The glue sets in the hole, filling the void between threads and locking it in place regardless of where it is driven.  The screw can be withdrawn easily if needed.

Steve Lucas 

Hi Steve,

    And that method works better than Locktite, which sometimes works too well!

Cordially,  Don Valentine



Re: Intermountain ATSF BX-37s

peteraue
 

Michael,
you may also also take a good look at the ends of the side sills and the sill steps. You'll need to cut off a piece of the side sill and replace the sill steps with more appropriate ones. I've always felt that the injection molded running boards on the IM and Red Caboose 40' boxcars are rather poor and have been replacing them on my cars with laser cut running boards and photo-etched RB support brackets.
Peter Aue


Fw: Re: Intermountain ATSF BX-37s

John Barry
 




Ron,

Missed the second half of your question, Yes, Intermountain has offered several variations of the S&T slogan cars.  I just haven't paid too much attention as they post date my 44-45 modelling era.
 
John Barry
 
ATSF North Bay Lines 
Golden Gates & Fast Freights 

707-490-9696 

PO Box 44736 
Washington, DC 20026-4736



From: John Barry
To: "STMFC@..."
Sent: Tuesday, June 7, 2016 8:10 PM
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Re: Intermountain ATSF BX-37s

Ron,

By circle-cross do you mean the plain pre-map scheme with the 3 foot herald or the post S&T large circle cross?  Lots of the cars of the cars survived past 59 to wear the large cross.  Since the Bx-37s started delivery in 42, none of them came in the pre-map scheme and all were delivered in a straight map scheme, then repainted in S&T after 47 or large Circle Cross after 59.  
 
John Barry
 
ATSF North Bay Lines 
Golden Gates & Fast Freights 

707-490-9696 

PO Box 44736 
Washington, DC 20026-4736





From: "ron.merrick@... [STMFC]"
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Tuesday, June 7, 2016 6:44 PM
Subject: [STMFC] Re: Intermountain ATSF BX-37s

 
New question:  Has this car ever been offered in circle-cross?  Even as a kit, back when they used to do such things?  And I don't mean the current 46023, which isn't even the same car and has the post-S&T scheme which I doubt very many of these cars carried.

I don't recall ever having seen the Bx-37 or -43 offered in S&T.  Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Ron Merrick







Re: Intermountain ATSF BX-37s

John Barry
 

And over 2000 of those nearly 5000 cars survived to the 70s past the end of this list, but would surely had more than a few of them repainted in the Large Circle Cross introduced in 1959.
 
John Barry
 
ATSF North Bay Lines 
Golden Gates & Fast Freights 

707-490-9696 

PO Box 44736 
Washington, DC 20026-4736



From: "Michael Gross ActorMichaelGross@... [STMFC]"
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Tuesday, June 7, 2016 8:29 PM
Subject: [STMFC] Re: Intermountain ATSF BX-37s

 
According to the Santa Fe live freight car index, there were almost 5000 of these still in existence in 1959, so many would have received the Ship and Travel repaint beginning in 1947.



Re: Different terms for the same thing ...Friction and other types of bearings

Nolan Hinshaw
 

On Jun 5, 2016, at 7:56 PM, 'Mike Brock' brockm@cfl.rr.com [STMFC] wrote:

{bearably decent treatise on terminology appreciated and trimmed]

BTW, for what its worth, the term "Turnout" is NOT a model railroad term. In
a book titled "Elements of Railroad Track and Construction", published in
1915, there is a chapter titled "Circular Turnouts" and another: "Practical
Turnouts".
See also "Track and Turnout Engineering" by C. M. Kurtz, a 1945 edition
from Simmons-Boardman of which is in my personal library.
--
Nolan Hinshaw, San Francisco
Perpetrating model railroads intermittently since 1956
"Not only is it not right, it's not even wrong!"
From Wolfgang Pauli, perpetrator of the Pauli Exclusion Principle


Re: Intermountain ATSF BX-37s

John Barry
 

Micheal,

The IM roof is basically correct, but not as well executed as the Red Caboose version.  

 
John Barry
 
ATSF North Bay Lines 
Golden Gates & Fast Freights 

707-490-9696 

PO Box 44736 
Washington, DC 20026-4736



From: "ActorMichaelGross@... [STMFC]"
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Tuesday, June 7, 2016 8:23 PM
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Intermountain ATSF BX-37s

 
Thank you, John.  I don't mind tweaking ladders, brake reservoir, even adding a Royal F brake regulator as long as the main parts of the car—sides, end, and roof—are correct.  If they have the correct W-section curved corners, and 5/5 dreadnaught ends, I might compromise on the roof.  Your comment about Red Caboose suggests that the IM car does NOT have the correct raised panel roof.

Sure appreciate the information, John.

Cheers!

Michael Gross
Los Angeles, CA



Re: NYCSHS Central Headlight 2nd Qtr 2016 - NYC Automobile Cars 1...

Rich C
 

Fran, If Ben did not answer this already, the 70000-70999 did not have end doors. I checked my 1954 Equipment Register. The closest C&BT kit would be one with the 4/4 Improved Dreadnaught Ends and as Ben mentioned Archer rivets.

Rich Christie


On Tuesday, June 7, 2016 11:01 AM, "frangiacoma@... [STMFC]" wrote:


 
Greg ,
My eyes thought they saw hinges on the end on right side of the boxcar.
Supplementing my original question a few posts back, I would like to model a steel, 40' auto car with end doors for my 1956 era layout.
Which model is a good starting point and which Westerfield doors mentioned in my previous post (if any) would work?
Thanks.
Fran Giacoma



Re: Intermountain ATSF BX-37s

Benjamin Hom
 

Michael Gross wrote:

"Your comment about Red Caboose suggests that the IM car does NOT have the correct raised panel roof."

Not quite true - the Intermountain roof is a rectangular panel roof, but it isn't as tooled nearly as nicely as the Red Caboose rectangular panel roof, so some of the modelers on this list replace it with the Red Caboose part, which fits with minor modifications.


Ben Hom


Re: Intermountain ATSF BX-37s

Michael Gross
 

According to the Santa Fe live freight car index, there were almost 5000 of these still in existence in 1959, so many would have received the Ship and Travel repaint beginning in 1947.


Re: Truck mounting

midrly
 

I place a drop of carpenters' yellow glue (aliphatic resin for our UK readers) on the tip of the screw before inserting it into a tapped truck screw hole in the bolster.  The glue sets in the hole, filling the void between threads and locking it in place regardless of where it is driven.  The screw can be withdrawn easily if needed.

Steve Lucas


Re: Intermountain ATSF BX-37s

Michael Gross
 

Thank you, John.  I don't mind tweaking ladders, brake reservoir, even adding a Royal F brake regulator as long as the main parts of the car—sides, end, and roof—are correct.  If they have the correct W-section curved corners, and 5/5 dreadnaught ends, I might compromise on the roof.  Your comment about Red Caboose suggests that the IM car does NOT have the correct raised panel roof.

Sure appreciate the information, John.

Cheers!

Michael Gross
Los Angeles, CA


Re: Intermountain ATSF BX-37s

John Barry
 

Ron,

By circle-cross do you mean the plain pre-map scheme with the 3 foot herald or the post S&T large circle cross?  Lots of the cars of the cars survived past 59 to wear the large cross.  Since the Bx-37s started delivery in 42, none of them came in the pre-map scheme and all were delivered in a straight map scheme, then repainted in S&T after 47 or large Circle Cross after 59.  
 
John Barry
 
ATSF North Bay Lines 
Golden Gates & Fast Freights 

707-490-9696 

PO Box 44736 
Washington, DC 20026-4736





From: "ron.merrick@... [STMFC]"
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Tuesday, June 7, 2016 6:44 PM
Subject: [STMFC] Re: Intermountain ATSF BX-37s

 
New question:  Has this car ever been offered in circle-cross?  Even as a kit, back when they used to do such things?  And I don't mean the current 46023, which isn't even the same car and has the post-S&T scheme which I doubt very many of these cars carried.

I don't recall ever having seen the Bx-37 or -43 offered in S&T.  Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Ron Merrick



Re: Different terms for the same thing ...Friction and other types of be

Larry Buell
 

Mike, et al,

On the Santa Fe, locomotives were generally referred to by the Class/engine number by the crews, as well (at least up until the 1995 Merger).

Larry Buell


Re: Intermountain ATSF BX-37s

mopacfirst
 

New question:  Has this car ever been offered in circle-cross?  Even as a kit, back when they used to do such things?  And I don't mean the current 46023, which isn't even the same car and has the post-S&T scheme which I doubt very many of these cars carried.

I don't recall ever having seen the Bx-37 or -43 offered in S&T.  Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Ron Merrick


Re: Intermountain ATSF BX-37s

John Barry
 

Michael,

They are close and can easily be made closer with some minor mods to ladders, reorienting the reservoir, and changing trucks for certain road numbers. It is probably closest to the as built Bx-43 as is but as a 37 its not bad.  Past issues had appropriate as built Slogan/Map/number combinations.  I have not checked this particular set as I acquired a large number from the most recent release that filled the Bx-37 gap in my roster.  If you want to improve a bit more, substitute a Red Caboose roof.  

John
 
John Barry
 
ATSF North Bay Lines 
Golden Gates & Fast Freights 

707-490-9696 

PO Box 44736 
Washington, DC 20026-4736



From: "ActorMichaelGross@... [STMFC]"
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Tuesday, June 7, 2016 5:55 PM
Subject: [STMFC] Intermountain ATSF BX-37s

 
Intermountain is offering some new 10'6" modified AARs in the BX-37 scheme.  Anyone know if, apart from assigned numbers and slogans, if they were prototypically accurate?


Michael Gross
Los Angeles, CA


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