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Re: Kit-bash fodder - Mid 1920s 3/3/3 dreadnaught end
Andy Carlson
Going by the door, I would say that this is a 10'6" IH box car body. -Andy Carlson Ojai CA
On Friday, September 4, 2020, 11:07:18 PM PDT, Robert kirkham <rdkirkham@...> wrote:
Rob
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Re: Flat Black
Tony Thompson
But Star Brand sticks to resin and Tru-color sure does not, thinners in common or not. And BTW Star thinner stays in its bottle, which is certainly not the case with TruC.
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On Sep 4, 2020, at 3:10 PM, Lee Thwaits <leeoldsa@...> wrote:
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Kit-bash fodder - Mid 1920s 3/3/3 dreadnaught end
Robert kirkham
Thanks for the suggestion Paul. I will be going with Andy Carlson's 3/3/3 end, rather than cutting up the Roundhouse car. With a little more research I realized I needed 2/3/3 ends, so will have to make modifications. Part of the fun.
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That said, the Galloway site is a walk down memory lane. And one starts to imagine other kinds of kit bash possibilities (especially clerestory baggage cars). I’m curious whether anyone has the ability to speak to the car body height on the steel boxcar kit: https://squareup.com/store/gallowayenterprises/item/acl-coast-line. The photo doesn’t show dimensional data, so no clear info about the car interior height. Door and rivets on the side look alright. I’m assuming it would require junking parts and finding others. Lots of work, but for the right model and $1, hmmm. Rob
On Sep 4, 2020, at 9:40 PM, Paul Krueger <kruegerp12@...> wrote: You can get Roundhouse shells here for $1 each, plus shipping. http://www.gallowayenterprise.com/ Paul Krueger Seattle, WA _._,_._,_
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Re: Mid 1920s 3/3/3 dreadnaught end
You can get Roundhouse shells here for $1 each, plus shipping.
http://www.gallowayenterprise.com/ Paul Krueger Seattle, WA
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SP 5730 express 40' box car 1950 color image
Andy Carlson
Photographed in the city of Oakland, CA in 1950. Southern Pacific passenger green Railway Express Agency 40' Southern Pacific box car with alternating centered riveting. A scan from a Kodachrome slide I purchased 3-4 years ago. Notice the poling pocket 3/4 improved Dreadnaught end. I have dozens of these ends remaining from Intermountain. Enjoy, -Andy Carlson Ojai CA
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Mid 1920s 3/3/3 dreadnaught end
Andy Carlson
Rob- I have molds for the WP/MP/T&P SS double door autocar, same prototype as the MDC kit. Mine has no molded on grabs and brake gear. I could cast you a polyurethane pair if that could be helpful for you. Contact me off-list if you are interested at <midcentury@...>. Regards, -Andy Carlson Ojai CA
On Friday, September 4, 2020, 7:28:45 PM PDT, Robert kirkham <rdkirkham@...> wrote:
Looking for a part for a model part (HO scale) - an inward protruding dreadnaught end with 3/3/3 configuration. The design is mid to late 1920s. I’m wondering if I may need a sacrificial MDC roundhouse 50’ single sheathed car, but hoping there is something I do not need to destroy. If that is the best option, wondering if anyone knows where an undecorated model can be had. Rob Kirkham _._,_._,_
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Mid 1920s 3/3/3 dreadnaught end
Robert kirkham
Looking for a part for a model part (HO scale) - an inward protruding dreadnaught end with 3/3/3 configuration. The design is mid to late 1920s. I’m wondering if I may need a sacrificial MDC roundhouse 50’ single sheathed car, but hoping there is something I do not need to destroy. If that is the best option, wondering if anyone knows where an undecorated model can be had. Rob Kirkham
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Re: image from Homestead, PA in 1915
Dennis Storzek
What catches my eye is the early interlocking steel sheet piling lining the excavations in the foreground. Here is a brief history quoted from this web site:
https://jdfieldsusa.wordpress.com/2015/03/07/history-of-sheet-piling/ "A manufacturer from the United States, Gregson, was the first to patent a bulb and jaw interlock in 1899 but this system still did not serve its intended purpose because it resulted in a flat section with a tiny section modulus. This then led to the first steel sheet pile with a U section and riveted interlocks being developed by Tryggve Larssen, the state chief engineer for the city of Bremen in Germany, at the turn of the century. Larssen’s wave shaped sheet pile was a revolutionary development because it increased the strength and efficiency of steel retaining walls. However, this design still contained an interlock system that was partially fabricated after the manufacturing process. In 1914, sheet pile with rivet-less interlocking systems made their debut in Germany. Sheet pile that has been developed since Larssen’s innovation have been based of his design concept." Dennis Storzek
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image from Homestead, PA in 1915
Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
Hi List Members,
I have been having an enjoyable time taking in what there is to see on this
image from Homestead, PA in 1915 and linked below...
Zoom in to the image and have a look.
Nearest the camera, BR&P composite gon 17485, is in the process of
being loaded. The load bracing is partially in place, the vertical braces
positioned in the OUTSIDE stake pockets.
Behind it is a B&O composite gon that has completed loading of the same
material. Note that the B&O gon has vertical braces positioned both inside
the car AND on the outside, using the outside stake pockets. I imagine this
was done to provide a tight and secure non-shifting interior fit for
the load.
Are these called billets in the steel industry? The appear to be octagonal
in profile
Then further to the left we can see a steel gon with C.S.CO. reporting
marks, I am unable to make out the number. It appears this car might be missing
its coupler.
Enjoy!
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Re: Santa Fe 5-5-5-2 ends
Jim Hayes
you could try asking Chad Boas. I've had good luck getting other S-N-T ends from him. JimH
On Fri, Sep 4, 2020 at 1:41 PM John Barry <northbaylines@...> wrote:
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Re: Flat Black
Lee Thwaits
Using Star Brand paint I initially had a problem with some minor chipping over time. Talking to Jimmy
Booth of PBL of the problem he told me that it is imperative that use their thinner with both TruColor and Star Brand paints because of a chemical compatibility with other thinners. Since using it I have had no problems (over 20 O scale cars). Lee Thwaits
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Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Teens and Twenties shipments of Ford cars via box cars
Gatwood, Elden J SAD
That is very cool stuff, Andy!
Elden Gatwood
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Andy Jackson
Sent: Friday, September 4, 2020 4:38 PM To: main@realstmfc.groups.io; PqyRange <lajrmdlr@...> Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Teens and Twenties shipments of Ford cars via box cars
Here's what looks to me to be Studebakers "stuffed" into a Santa Fe drop bottom gondola. Think these autos only included everything from firewall back, i.e. no motor, body & chassis in front of it. Studebaker had a plant on Los Angeles Junction Ry till it closed in 1956. A fellow LAJ modeler. Tony Debates, made the Studebaker plant for his layout (attached). Andy Jackson
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Re: New Precision Scale Co
Charles Happel
My experience has been that there is no price difference. Chuck Happel 'I am' is reportedly the shortest sentence in the English language. Could it be that 'I do' is the longest sentence? George Carlin
On Friday, September 4, 2020, 04:15:00 PM EDT, Steve and Barb Hile <shile@...> wrote: I have purchased Precision Scale parts from their store on eBay, I don’t know if there is a significant price advantages or disadvantages to doing it this way, but their service is quick and accurate and you can see the part in its packaging.
Steve Hile
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Charles Morrill
Their web site <precisionscaleco.com> has the contact info phone, email, as well as catalogs and price lists. As Nelson mentions only the family members are handling the business now, but they have responded to emails fairly quickly so far.
Charlie
From: "Nelson Moyer" <npmoyer@...>
Precision Scale Company 560 Ione Road Pasco, WA 99301
I don’t have the phone number, but they will accept phone orders. Due to COVID-19 restrictions, they’re employees are furloughed, but since it’s now a family business, they will fill orders for parts in stock. Expect a long wait.
Nelson Moyer
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of WILLIAM PARDIE
Good Morning All:
I seem to have misplaced my contact for the hobby shop in Washington that is took over the Precision Scale line. Help please,
Thanks in advance:
Bill Pardie
Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
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Re: Santa Fe 5-5-5-2 ends
John Barry
Al, Greg had a number of those ends cast and they were available through him. I picked up one of if not the last one that he had at CCB this year. Greg had also been working on masters for the slightly taller ends for the Bx-32, 33 and 36. I am unaware of what has become of Greg's modeling projects. John Barry ATSF North Bay Lines Golden Gates & Fast Freights Lovettsville, VA 707-490-9696 PO Box 44736 Washington, DC 20026-4736
On Friday, September 4, 2020, 03:54:53 PM EDT, Allan Smith <smithal9@...> wrote:
In 2014 Greg Martin did a clinic on Santa Fe rebuilt boxcars, one of the detail parts was a 5-5-5-2 end. Does anyone in the group know where I can get two sets of those ends.I tried working with Tichy 5-5-5 ends by cutting them up and adding two ribs to the top, but they are a foot to tall. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Al Smith
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Re: Teens and Twenties shipments of Ford cars via box cars
Here's what looks to me to be Studebakers "stuffed" into a Santa Fe drop bottom gondola. Think these autos only included everything from firewall back, i.e. no motor, body & chassis in front of it. Studebaker had a plant on Los Angeles Junction Ry till it closed in 1956. A fellow LAJ modeler. Tony Debates, made the Studebaker plant for his layout (attached). Andy Jackson Santa Fe Springs CA
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Re: New Precision Scale Co
I have purchased Precision Scale parts from their store on eBay, I don’t know if there is a significant price advantages or disadvantages to doing it this way, but their service is quick and accurate and you can see the part in its packaging.
Steve Hile
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Charles Morrill
Sent: Friday, September 4, 2020 1:52 PM To: main <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] New Precision Scale Co
Their web site <precisionscaleco.com> has the contact info phone, email, as well as catalogs and price lists. As Nelson mentions only the family members are handling the business now, but they have responded to emails fairly quickly so far.
Charlie
From: "Nelson Moyer" <npmoyer@...>
Precision Scale Company 560 Ione Road Pasco, WA 99301
I don’t have the phone number, but they will accept phone orders. Due to COVID-19 restrictions, they’re employees are furloughed, but since it’s now a family business, they will fill orders for parts in stock. Expect a long wait.
Nelson Moyer
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of WILLIAM PARDIE
Good Morning All:
I seem to have misplaced my contact for the hobby shop in Washington that is took over the Precision Scale line. Help please,
Thanks in advance:
Bill Pardie
Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
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Santa Fe 5-5-5-2 ends
Allan Smith
In 2014 Greg Martin did a clinic on Santa Fe rebuilt boxcars, one of the detail parts was a 5-5-5-2 end. Does anyone in the group know where I can get two sets of those ends.I tried working with Tichy 5-5-5 ends by cutting them up and adding two ribs to the top, but they are a foot to tall. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Al Smith
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Re: New Precision Scale Co - also PIA parts
Kenneth Montero
They also have PIA (former PFM?) parts.
Ken Montero
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Teens and Twenties shipments of Ford cars via box cars
Here is a link to a lot of info and photos about the process:
http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/331880/399443.html?1383834795 The autos were partially disassembled to fit more into each box car. Charley Hepperle
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Re: New Precision Scale Co
Charles Morrill
Their web site <precisionscaleco.com> has the contact info phone, email, as well as catalogs and price lists. As Nelson mentions only the family members are handling the business now, but they have responded to emails fairly quickly so far. Charlie
From: "Nelson Moyer" <npmoyer@...> To: "main" <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> Sent: Friday, September 4, 2020 1:39:35 PM Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] New Precision Scale Co Precision Scale Company 560 Ione Road Pasco, WA 99301
I don’t have the phone number, but they will accept phone orders. Due to COVID-19 restrictions, they’re employees are furloughed, but since it’s now a family business, they will fill orders for parts in stock. Expect a long wait.
Nelson Moyer
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io]
On Behalf Of WILLIAM PARDIE
Good Morning All:
I seem to have misplaced my contact for the hobby shop in Washington that is took over the Precision Scale line. Help please,
Thanks in advance:
Bill Pardie
Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
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