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Re: Photo: Boxcar Load Restraining System (Circa 1940s)
Tony Thompson
Bob Chaparro wrote:
I don't think that's a boxcar system. It looks to me like they have strapped all the cartons together with steel strapping to hold them all together. I don't know that it's anchored to the car interior at all. Tony Thompson
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Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: Boxcar Load Restraining System (Circa 1940s)
Gatwood, Elden J SAD
Good point, Tony!
That is one curious car. Are those tie-downs on the side sill?
Elden Gatwood
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Tony Thompson
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2020 5:55 PM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: Boxcar Load Restraining System (Circa 1940s)
Gatwood, Elden wrote:
Remember that early Viking did not have corrugations.
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Re: Flat Black
Todd Sullivan
Denny,
Tamiya also has a semi-gloss black in bottles and rattle cans. It turns out to be a good match for some factory-painted models in terms of luster (e.g., P2K steam locos). Todd Sullivan
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Re: Photo: Boxcar Load Restraining System (Circa 1940s)
Tony Thompson
Gatwood, Elden wrote:
Remember that early Viking did not have corrugations. Tony Thompson
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Re: Flat Black
Ralph W. Brown
Hi Denny,
like Scalecoat I, which I’ve getting either from Walthers or directly from
Minutemen.
Pax,
Ralph
Brown
Portland, Maine PRRT&HS No. 3966 NMRA No. L2532 rbrown51[at]maine[dot]rr[dot]com
From: Denny
Anspach
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2020 4:21 PM
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Flat Black Now
that Testor’s (ModelMaster) have apparently left the hobby market (joining with
MTH next April), what have listers been choosing for their solvent based paints,
particularly flat black. The Tamiya is excellent, but also the very
flattest of any flat black imaginable. I have some Floquil left, but it is from
the end of production, it never drys, and is -hesitantly- headed for the trash.
Denny
Denny
S. Anspach, MD
Sacramento,
CA 95864
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Re: Flat Black
Tony Thompson
Try P-B-L or use this link: https://www.p-b-l.com/catalog/cfm/catalog.cfm Tony Thompson
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Re: Flat Black
Jon Miller
This shop buys and sells Floquil. http://www.narrowgaugemodeling.com/floquil-paint/ -- Jon Miller For me time stopped in 1941 Digitrax Chief/Zephyr systems, JMRI User SPROG User NMRA Life member #2623 Member SFRH&MS
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Re: Flat Black
Tony Thompson
Originally it stood for Peter Built Locomotives (proprietor Bill Peter), in Ukiah, CA. Google Star Brand paint.
toggle quoted messageShow quoted text
Tony Thompson
On Aug 31, 2020, at 2:38 PM, Andy Miller <aslmmiller@...> wrote:
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Re: Flat Black
Andy Miller
Tony,
Who is PBL ? The only Star brand paint I can find on the internet is an African company making house paint!
Regards,
Andy Miller
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tony Thompson
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2020 4:41 PM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Flat Black
Denny Anspach wrote:
You can still buy Scalecoat, or the Star Brand paint from PBL is very dependable. I find myself using it more and more.
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Re: Flat Black
Robert J Miller CFA
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of Jack Burgess <jack@...>
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2020 5:12:02 PM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Flat Black Denny….
I have not heard that Testor’s was leaving…thanks for mentioning that fact. (Who/what is MTH?) I still have a dozen unopened Floquil bottles left so I just ordered another bottle of Testor’s paint thinner for them. Hopefully, I’ll run out of Floquil paint just after I build the last YV model on my list and those 45+ resin kits…
Jack Burgess
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io]
On Behalf Of Denny Anspach
Now that Testor’s (ModelMaster) have apparently left the hobby market (joining with MTH next April), what have listers been choosing for their solvent based paints, particularly flat black. The Tamiya is excellent, but also the very flattest of any flat black imaginable. I have some Floquil left, but it is from the end of production, it never drys, and is -hesitantly- headed for the trash.
Denny
Denny S. Anspach, MD Sacramento, CA 95864
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Re: Flat Black
Jack Burgess
Denny….
I have not heard that Testor’s was leaving…thanks for mentioning that fact. (Who/what is MTH?) I still have a dozen unopened Floquil bottles left so I just ordered another bottle of Testor’s paint thinner for them. Hopefully, I’ll run out of Floquil paint just after I build the last YV model on my list and those 45+ resin kits…
Jack Burgess
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Denny Anspach
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2020 1:22 PM To: main@realstmfc.groups.io Subject: [RealSTMFC] Flat Black
Now that Testor’s (ModelMaster) have apparently left the hobby market (joining with MTH next April), what have listers been choosing for their solvent based paints, particularly flat black. The Tamiya is excellent, but also the very flattest of any flat black imaginable. I have some Floquil left, but it is from the end of production, it never drys, and is -hesitantly- headed for the trash.
Denny
Denny S. Anspach, MD Sacramento, CA 95864
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Re: Photo: Boxcar Load Restraining System (Circa 1940s)
Gatwood, Elden J SAD
It does not look like a Viking, as the corrugations are not visible. It has widely-spaced carlines, with intermediate stiffeners. Didn’t NP have roofs like that on some classes?
Elden Gatwood
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Brent Greer
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2020 4:05 PM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: Boxcar Load Restraining System (Circa 1940s)
So, a completely different question from looking at this picture: whose version of radial roof would this be, based upon the visible stampings as we see them from the underside?
Brent Dr. J. Brent Greer
From:
main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of Todd Sullivan via groups.io <sullivant41@...>
Hi Bob,
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Re: Photo: Boxcar Load Restraining System (Circa 1940s)
Charlie Vlk
All- Signode was one of the major suppliers of the strap systems IIRC.
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Todd Sullivan via groups.io
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2020 2:54 PM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: Boxcar Load Restraining System (Circa 1940s)
Hi Bob,
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Re: Flat Black
Tony Thompson
Denny Anspach wrote:
You can still buy Scalecoat, or the Star Brand paint from PBL is very dependable. I find myself using it more and more. Tony Thompson
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Re: Photo: Boxcar Load Restraining System (Circa 1940s)
np328
I'll second Todd's reply. I recall working with those tools as a teenager. The tools on the floor are crimpers, once the banding is snugged up, a soft metal C shaped piece is placed over the strapping and crimped tight when the arms are drawn together.
Of the radial roof, it does not readily appear to be NP style Jim Dick - St. Paul MN
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Flat Black
Denny Anspach <danspachmd@...>
Now that Testor’s (ModelMaster) have apparently left the hobby market (joining with MTH next April), what have listers been choosing for their solvent based paints, particularly flat black. The Tamiya is excellent, but also the very flattest of any flat black imaginable. I have some Floquil left, but it is from the end of production, it never drys, and is -hesitantly- headed for the trash.
Denny Denny S. Anspach, MD Sacramento, CA 95864
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Re: Photo: Boxcar Load Restraining System (Circa 1940s)
Brent Greer
So, a completely different question from looking at this picture: whose version of radial roof would this be, based upon the visible stampings as we see them from the underside?
Brent
Dr. J. Brent Greer
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of Todd Sullivan via groups.io <sullivant41@...>
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2020 3:53 PM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: Boxcar Load Restraining System (Circa 1940s) Hi Bob,
I think it's called steel strapping and furring strips. The clue is the device held by the worker - it is used to tension and then crimp the steel strapping. Not hi-tech, but cheap and probably effective. Todd Sullivan
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Re: Photo: Boxcar Load Restraining System (Circa 1940s)
Todd Sullivan
Hi Bob,
I think it's called steel strapping and furring strips. The clue is the device held by the worker - it is used to tension and then crimp the steel strapping. Not hi-tech, but cheap and probably effective. Todd Sullivan
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Photo: Boxcar Load Restraining System (Circa 1940s)
Photo: Boxcar Load Restraining System (Circa 1940s) A photo from the Virginia Tech University Library: https://imagebase.lib.vt.edu/image_viewer.php?q=ns1128 This photo can be enlarged. Can anyone identify the load restraining system? Bob Chaparro Hemet, CA
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Photo: Case Cub Tractor Emerging From An End Door Boxcar (Undated)
Photo: Case Cub Tractor Emerging From An End Door Boxcar (Undated) A comment by Charlie Vlk: "I’d bet that the car has been repainted for publicity purposes….I haven’t blown up the image and studied it in detail but it doesn’t look like there are any reporting marks or data and I doubt it was in interchange service. A neat looking car none the less." Bob Chaparro Hemet, CA
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