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Re: Photo: SP Gondola 45680

Todd Sullivan
 

Yes, if you needed a car NOW, you'd find the closest one that fits the requirements.  The only exceptions would be not loading feed (bagged or bulk) into a car assigned to hide service, or flour into a car assigned to feed or hides.  The originating RR would likely pay for the whole contaminated load, and have an unhappy  shipper and customer on their hands.

Todd Sullivan


Re: What are the springs in the Trix 40 foot boxcar frame for

Todd Sullivan
 

Thank you, Johannes, for your additional comments.

Todd Sullivan


Re: What are the springs in the Trix 40 foot boxcar frame for

vapeurchapelon
 

Hello Jeffrey,
 
as Todd already mentioned - there is nothing to worry about by disassembling.
As TRIX as a German manufacturer under the parentship of Märklin, all products (however stupid this may be...) have to have the Euro-style "short-coupling-kinematics", seen here:
 
https://www.stayathome.ch/images/KKK-2.jpg
 
European rolling stock has buffers - but on models they usually are non-functional (not sprung), so in order to run "buffer on buffer" you need such a device for curves. There was a very large (and ugly) lever connected to that spring on your car, similar to this one:
 
https://www.lokschuppen-berlinski.de/img_big/858417c8ccc27c069b42ac5028dd208b.jpg
 
In curves that lever not only moves from side to side, but also increasingly away from the car end - seen in the first link. The spring just tows it back to normal position on straight track.
It doesn't work bad and enables you to run even the longest passenger cars short-coupled on curves down to 15" - but such long cars nonetheless look stupid on such curves, and I definitely would make the buffers working first (of course there are many different ones available) before using such odd devices...
This system and the refusal of several leading European manufacturers to develop anything better and more prototypical was one reason for me to quit Euro modeling with VERY few exceptions - or at least the US system with Kadee boxes and knuckle couplers were a VERY welcomed cherry on the cake in my beginning of US modeling...
 
Just screw on a Kadee box where it belongs, and everything should be fine.
 
Many greetings
 
Johannes
Modeling the early post-war years up to about 1953
 
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Betreff: [RealSTMFC] What are the springs in the Trix 40 foot boxcar frame for

I just received a Trix IC 40 ft double door boxcar.  I turned it over to look at the coupler boxes and discovered there are srpings in the underframe.

I've never seen this before. They don't seem to have a function but I haven't disassembled the car. Thought I'd ask if there is anything I should know before taking it apart to change out the trucks and couplers.

Jeff White

Alma IL

 


NP 10000 Series Boxcars by Rapido

Dean ONeill
 

STMFC,
A couple notes about the excellent Rapido HO NP boxcars in the 100000-13999 series. 

The January issue of Railroad Model Craftsman has a nine page, 20 photo article by Chris Frissell that describes simple but highly effective weathering for this common steam era car. The article leans a little more towards the 1960s, but many of the techniques could apply to the Steam era.

Additionally, just a reminder, the NPRHA ordered custom road numbers from Rapido for the second run, and those acclaimed boxcars can be found in the NPHRA store for prices well below MSRP:
Modeling - Cars - NPRHA Company Store

Finally, the NPRHA also offers Cartograf printed HO decals including authentic chalk marks and common stencils for this car series, here:
Modeling - Decals - NPRHA Company Store

Thanks,
Dean ONeill
NPRHA Modeling Committee

PS - want access to over 5000 Northern Pacific Railway steam locomotive photos, along with over 100 elevation and section drawings? You need to See It All!:
Vista Dome Package 2020 - NPRHA Company Store


Re: New Tangent Bethlehem Gondolas - B&O, CRP, CNJ

Tangent Scale Models
 

Here are photos for the cars appropriate for the era of the Real Steam Era List!

Baltimore & Ohio (B&O) "O-59A 3-1940 Capitol Dome Delivery"



Baltimore & Ohio (B&O) "1957 O-59 Repaint"




Central Railroad of Pennsylvania (CRP) “Original 1944”



Central Railroad of New Jersey (CNJ) “Restencil 1952”




Thank you for reading!

David Lehlbach
Tangent Scale Models


New Tangent Bethlehem Gondolas - B&O, CRP, CNJ

Tangent Scale Models
 

Tangent Scale Models announces the availability today of our latest run of Bethlehem 52’6” 70-Ton Gondolas in HO scale.  Produced from 1937 until 1957, Bethlehem Steel Company released over 6,000 of these Gondolas at its Johnstown PA plant and supplied parts to other car manufacturers to build an additional 3,000+ cars.  These gondolas saw service across the steam, steam-transition, and diesel-eras.  These cars could be loaded with steel products, automotive frames, bulk material and scrap metal, just to name a few, and served customers across the USA and Canada.  The prototypes were built with drop ends and equipped with various floor, end door, and underframe options per the buyer’s specifications.

 

The Tangent Scale Models Bethlehem 52’6” 70-Ton Gondola is a distinctive finescale replica that includes highly accurate lettering, “true to life” colors, and “near-scale” draft gear.  The Tangent model features prototype specific options as well as interior detail, wire grab irons, CNC-machined wheels, Kadee® scale couplers and an intelligent weight design to ensure the model operates as good as it looks.

Check them out now at www.tangentscalemodels.com in these SEVEN (7) sharp RTR schemes:

 

Baltimore & Ohio (B&O) "O-59A 3-1940 Capitol Dome Delivery" replicates the as-delivered capitol dome scheme found on Baltimore & Ohio’s third order of these riveted drop end gondolas.  Keep in mind that B&O rostered no less than 3,800 of these gondolas, representing one of the largest single-design gondola fleets of any era.  This black carbody with white stenciling scheme has the distinctive B&O “Capitol Dome” logo located on the left side of the car next to the B&O reporting marks.  With the “Baltimore & Ohio” lettering on the right side of the car, this is a classic 1940s-1960s scheme not to be missed.  This paint scheme was last offered ten years ago, and is available again now with 6 all-new road numbers!  3 road numbers are numbered for March 1940, while 3 road numbers are numbered for April 1940 production.

 

Baltimore & Ohio (B&O) "1957 O-59 Repaint" represents our offering to 1957 and later modelers with one of the B&O’s repaint variations.  This car has a large gothic “B&O” in white stenciling sprayed onto the car sides and is one of the most requested paint schemes we have had for this car.  This particular variant of the company scheme was applied by B&O’s Glenwood Yard shop forces, located in Pittsburgh.  Tangent is now offering this all-new scheme in 6 road numbers. 

 

Central Railroad of Pennsylvania (CRP) “Original 1944” is the as-delivered scheme for CNJ (Central Railroad of New Jersey).  This is a huge and highly relevant series of 1,000 cars, the largest car class on CRP/CNJ.  The scheme includes a black carbody with white stencils including “Lady Liberty” and “Jersey Central Lines.”  Carbody details include a wood floor, dreadnaught ends, and conventional draft gear.  This scheme is available in 6 all-new road numbers.

 

Central Railroad of New Jersey (CNJ) “Restencil 1952” includes the as-delivered 1944 paint scheme complete with “Lady Liberty” and “Jersey Central Lines” on a black carbody.  This restencil version includes the addition of CNJ reporting marks and a 1952 reweigh date, which represents the year the prototype cars changed ownership from CRP to CNJ.  This CNJ car is available in 6 all-new road numbers.

 

Lehigh Valley "USRE Green 1970" represents a different green variant from our most recent run.  Both greens are correct!  The history: Lehigh Valley engaged United States Railway Equipment (USRE) to refurbish and repaint its fleet of 1940s/1950s-built Bethlehem Steel built gondolas at its facility in Washington, Indiana.  USRE repainted these in a variety of colors, and this blue-green color was utilized on many of the shopped cars.  This model Is full of little details: a light gray interior wall color matching the prototype, etched-metal Wine tie-downs on the top chord of the car, and stand-off metal ACI plates -- just like the prototype.  This is the first time Tangent has released this scheme from April of 1970, and it is available today in 6 road numbers!

 

Lehigh Valley "Gray 5-1973" represents a series of Lehigh Valley’s gray-painted, internal shop program repaints that were performed at Sayre, Pennsylvania!  Lehigh Valley (and USRE) painted these Bethlehem Steel gondolas in a myriad of colors including two different greens, Cornell red, black, and gray.  This is our first gray-painted offering!  This model includes a light gray interior wall color matching the prototype plus the etched-metal Wine tie-downs on the top chord of the car, and ACI label.  This is the first time Tangent has released this scheme from May of 1973, and it is available today in 6 road numbers!

 

Wellsville, Addison & Galeton (WAG) "1961 Paint" once again brings some wonderful northern Pennsylvania railroading charm to this release.  WAG rostered a small series of eight ex-B&O Bethlehem gondolas. Painted red with white lettering, this stunning model exhibits the details of its B&O O-59 class heritage including Duryea draft gear, a riveted steel floor, corrugated ends and an Ajax brakewheel.  This gem is available today in four numbers: two numbers that are repeated from our 2019 production (3005 and 3007) for those who missed out, and two brand-new numbers (3002 and 3004)!


Want to see photos of our new spectacular replicas?

See http://www.tangentscalemodels.com/  for a link to the new models!

 

We studied the prototype to accurately reproduce it with the following features:

- Dimensional accuracy – scaled exactly from Bethlehem Steel plans

- Highly accurate “true to life” colors

- Exact fonts and lettering placement – compare our replicas to the prototype photos on our website!

- Detail variations: Side chord tie downs appropriate for each paint scheme

- Detail variations: Steel or wood decks inside the car

- Detail variations: Duryea or conventional end sill detail appropriate for each paint scheme

- Detail variations: End door variations (Dreadnaught and Straight Corrugated) appropriate for each paint scheme

- Detail variations: Tack board locations appropriate for each paint scheme

- Detail variations: Brake platforms appropriate for each paint scheme

- Detail variations: Handbrakes applied to match production specifications (Universal, Ajax, or Equipco handbrakes available as separate parts, too!)

- Interior deck sits at the scale height

- Interior detail inside the gondola

- Wire grab irons and coupler lift bars

- Separate air hoses

- Weighted to NMRA specs for smooth operation

- Genuine Kadee® scale couplers

- Tangent 70-ton ASF A-3 Ride-Control trucks

- CNC-machined 33” wheels in high quality Tangent Scale Models trucks, with semi-scale wheels available separately

- Recommended age 14 years and older.

 

Do not miss out on this popular Bethlehem 52’-6” 70-Ton Riveted Drop-End Gondola!  Pricing for our new RTR gondolas is $40.95 each with quantity discounts for direct purchases from Tangent Scale Models.

 

Thank you for continuing to support Tangent Scale Models, a family-owned and operated company! 

 

David Lehlbach

Tangent Scale Models


Re: Photo: SP Gondola 45680

Tony Thompson
 

Bob Chaparro wrote:

Photo: SP Gondola 45680
A 1937 photo from the Huntington Library:
Stencil reads "Bulk Wine Grape Loading Only".

  A good demonstration of how closely restriction placards were followed. 

Tony Thompson




Re: What are the springs in the Trix 40 foot boxcar frame for

Todd Sullivan
 

Jeff,

I own several of the Trix UP 'ACR' 40ft boxcars, and the springs are associated with the Trix couplers.  You can remove the couplers, draft gear boxes and the springs with no danger to the operation of the car.  I think I had to fill a hole in the floor with some sheet styrene before attaching Kadee couplers and draft gear, but that was all in a day's work to get the cars equipped for layout operation.  I would check my installations of the Kadees, but all of those boxcars are in storage elsewhere.

Others may chime in with their solutions.

Todd Sullivan


Re: Photo: Pacific Electric Boxcars 2082, 2015 & 2111

Tony Thompson
 

Bob Chaparrowrote:

Photo: Pacific Electric Boxcars 2082, 2015 & 2111
An undated photo from the Huntington Library:
This photo can be enlarged quite a bit.
The location is the El Monte Depot.

  Impressive collection of chalk marks on the cars!

Tony Thompson




Re: Photo: B&O Gondola (1910)

Douglas Harding
 

Looks to be 138811

 

Doug Harding

www.iowacentralrr.org

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bob Chaparro via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2021 12:00 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Photo: B&O Gondola (1910)

 

Photo: B&O Gondola (1910)

A photo from the Huntington Library:

https://hdl.huntington.org/digital/collection/p16003coll2/id/12651/rec/45

This photo can be enlarged quite a bit.

I can't quite make out the car's numbers but perhaps someone with a better monitor can make the identification.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: HO Truck ID?

Dave Parker
 

Given the size and scope of our library in the Files section of the groups.io page, it seems like this document should be there.  I don't seem to have permission to upload, but perhaps someone else can.
--
Dave Parker
Swall Meadows, CA


What are the springs in the Trix 40 foot boxcar frame for

Jeffrey White
 

I just received a Trix IC 40 ft double door boxcar.  I turned it over to look at the coupler boxes and discovered there are srpings in the underframe.

I've never seen this before. They don't seem to have a function but I haven't disassembled the car. Thought I'd ask if there is anything I should know before taking it apart to change out the trucks and couplers.

Jeff White

Alma IL



Re: HO Truck ID?

Jim and Barbara van Gaasbeek
 

Can you please provide a link to “Richard Hendrickson's treatise on HO Trucks”?

 

Thanks.

 

Jim van Gaasbeek

Irvine, CA


Re: Photo: B&O Gondola (1910)

Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 


Hi Bob and List Members,
 
My notes indicate B&O 138811 class O-17 twin hopper bottom gondola built 1906
 
Claus Schlund
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2021 1:00 PM
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Photo: B&O Gondola (1910)

Photo: B&O Gondola (1910)

A photo from the Huntington Library:

https://hdl.huntington.org/digital/collection/p16003coll2/id/12651/rec/45

This photo can be enlarged quite a bit.

I can't quite make out the car's numbers but perhaps someone with a better monitor can make the identification.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: Photo: B&O Gondola (1910)

Eric Hansmann
 

B&O 138811 is an O-17 class gondola built in 1906.


Eric Hansmann
Murfreesboro, TN

On 01/16/2021 11:00 AM Bob Chaparro via groups.io <chiefbobbb@...> wrote:


Photo: B&O Gondola (1910)

A photo from the Huntington Library:

https://hdl.huntington.org/digital/collection/p16003coll2/id/12651/rec/45

This photo can be enlarged quite a bit.

I can't quite make out the car's numbers but perhaps someone with a better monitor can make the identification.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA




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Ed Shoben
 

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Re: Photo: SP Gondola 45680

Paul Doggett
 

That load are the biggest grapes 🍇 I have ever seen 🤣🤣🤣

Sorry 
Paul Doggett.   England 


On 16 Jan 2021, at 18:07, Bob Chaparro via groups.io <chiefbobbb@...> wrote:



Photo: SP Gondola 45680

A 1937 photo from the Huntington Library:

https://hdl.huntington.org/digital/collection/p16003coll2/id/30876/rec/8

Stencil reads "Bulk Wine Grape Loading Only".

Very strange grapes.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: ISO HO Resin Car Works Kit 15.0 MILW Composite Gondola

Eric Hansmann
 

Phil,

Has your check and order been returned?

If your check was cashed, than your order was shipped.

Eric Hansmann
RCW web guy


Photo: SP Gondola 45680

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: SP Gondola 45680

A 1937 photo from the Huntington Library:

https://hdl.huntington.org/digital/collection/p16003coll2/id/30876/rec/8

Stencil reads "Bulk Wine Grape Loading Only".

Very strange grapes.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Photo: SP Gondola 45811 & Companion

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: SP Gondola 45811 & Companion

A 1937 photo from the Huntington Library:

https://hdl.huntington.org/digital/collection/p16003coll2/id/30802/rec/857

This photo can be enlarged quite a bit.

Related photos:

https://hdl.huntington.org/digital/collection/p16003coll2/id/30877/rec/1

https://hdl.huntington.org/digital/collection/p16003coll2/id/30875/rec/7

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA

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