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Photo: N&W Gondola 101078 (1950)

David
 

Nice B-end view of a later GKd rebuild (the earlier rebuilds had Murphy-style ends).

David Thompson


Re: Photo: N&W Boxcar 47302 (1949)

Tony Thompson
 

Bob Chaparro  wrote:

Photo: N&W Boxcar 47302 (1949)
A photo from the Norfolk Southern Corporation:

      And how about that "Buy War Bonds" Santa Fe box car!!

Tony Thompson


Photo: Installing A New Deck On A Flat Car (Undated)

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: Installing A New Deck On A Flat Car (Undated)

A photo from the Norfolk Southern Corporation:

https://tinyurl.com/y23gckno

Click on the photo to enlarge it.

Looks like the planks with cutouts for the stake pockets are being installed first.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Photo: N&W Boxcar 47302 (1949)

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: N&W Boxcar 47302 (1949)

A photo from the Norfolk Southern Corporation:

https://tinyurl.com/y6h64v4x

Click on the photo to enlarge it.

Description:

"...a Norfolk & Western train made a stop at the Streitmann Biscuit Company near Cincinnati, Ohio.

The bakery produced more than 100 different varieties of crackers and cookies, including honey graham crackers, Opera Crème cookies, and Zesta saltine crackers. By 1951, production amounted to 1,321 carloads of outbound traffic annually, which was either delivered by N&W to its destination or originated on the N&W for delivery by other railroads."

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: More Re: New year - new eBay listings

Robert Allan
 

To up my game, how do you do the tack board detritus?

Bob Allan


Re: NP 5418

Drew Bunn
 

I'll second Mr Thompson. Turpentine tends to eat most varieties of plastic. Again, ask me how I know..


On Mon., Jan. 4, 2021, 14:56 Tony Thompson, <tony@...> wrote:
Tim O'Connor wrote:

Turpentine? Does it matter what brand of paint this is applied to?

  YES! YES! I recommend people NOT put turpentine on models until they know it is compatible with the previous finish. Don't ask how I know to say this.

Tony Thompson




Re: NP 5418

Tony Thompson
 

Tim O'Connor wrote:

Turpentine? Does it matter what brand of paint this is applied to?

  YES! YES! I recommend people NOT put turpentine on models until they know it is compatible with the previous finish. Don't ask how I know to say this.

Tony Thompson




Re: Atlas Swift 4-hinge reefer

Bob Chaparro
 

RE: Cudahy 5557
What type of trucks are under this car?
Thanks.
Bob Chaparro
Hemet, CA


Re: NP 5418

Robert kirkham
 

Hi RJ, you’re achieving nice results, so what follows may not apply to what you are doing.  But my recent experience with turpentine and oils used for weathering washes was paint on two models turning into a rubbery muck that I ended up having to strip.  Lost the primer, paint and decals.   The under-paint before I applied the wash was Tamiya gray primer and Vallejo for the body colour.  I’ve since put the turpentine away and gone to water soluble oils.  Safer and just as easy to handle. 

Rob

On Jan 4, 2021, at 8:53 AM, radiodial868 <radiodial57@...> wrote:

Nice. I think you've also just described the standard for steam era weathering for 2021 that many of us are using. The only tweak I'm currently doing different is after painting and before the Pledge Future coat and decaling, I apply a thin wash of Turpentine and black oil paint. It gives the weathering depth for steam era cars that me applying the pan pastels at the end can't do alone.  I've also found that if you do light swipes of a tan or light gray PP on the appliances and trucks, it highlights them as you would see them if the sun was shining.
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RJ Dial

Mendocino, CA


Re: NP 5418

Bruce Smith
 

Tim,

Turpentine, or the odorless alternative, Turpenol, are effective on all artist's oil paints, regardless of brand. It is not an appropriate solvent for other types of paint. 

Regards,
Bruce Smith
Auburn, AL


From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...>
Sent: Monday, January 4, 2021 12:22 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] NP 5418
 

Turpentine? Does it matter what brand of paint this is applied to?


On 1/4/2021 11:53 AM, radiodial868 wrote:
Nice. I think you've also just described the standard for steam era weathering for 2021 that many of us are using. The only tweak I'm currently doing different is after painting and before the Pledge Future coat and decaling, I apply a thin wash of Turpentine and black oil paint. It gives the weathering depth for steam era cars that me applying the pan pastels at the end can't do alone.  I've also found that if you do light swipes of a tan or light gray PP on the appliances and trucks, it highlights them as you would see them if the sun was shining.
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RJ Dial

Mendocino, CA

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Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: More Re: New year - new eBay listings

Schuyler Larrabee
 

Days to go, Tim, days to go . . .

 

Schuyler

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tim O'Connor
Sent: Monday, January 04, 2021 1:21 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] More Re: New year - new eBay listings

 

Clark

It seems like sales were much stronger before Christmas! $200+ in December but just $45 in January? :-(


On 1/4/2021 12:20 PM, Clark Propst wrote:

Got reasonable offers on the last cars I posted, so I’ll offer three more...

 

 

Clark Propst
Mason City Iowa

 


--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: NP 5418

Tim O'Connor
 


Turpentine? Does it matter what brand of paint this is applied to?


On 1/4/2021 11:53 AM, radiodial868 wrote:
Nice. I think you've also just described the standard for steam era weathering for 2021 that many of us are using. The only tweak I'm currently doing different is after painting and before the Pledge Future coat and decaling, I apply a thin wash of Turpentine and black oil paint. It gives the weathering depth for steam era cars that me applying the pan pastels at the end can't do alone.  I've also found that if you do light swipes of a tan or light gray PP on the appliances and trucks, it highlights them as you would see them if the sun was shining.
--
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RJ Dial

Mendocino, CA

--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: More Re: New year - new eBay listings

Tim O'Connor
 

Clark

It seems like sales were much stronger before Christmas! $200+ in December but just $45 in January? :-(


On 1/4/2021 12:20 PM, Clark Propst wrote:
Got reasonable offers on the last cars I posted, so I’ll offer three more...
 
 
Clark Propst
Mason City Iowa


--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: T-Section Trucks

radiodial868
 

On Mon, Jan 4, 2021 at 03:31 AM, greg snook wrote:
RJ,
I love the weathering on the deck of your flat car.  Could you please share your methods for that?  I have one Owl Mountain flat car awaiting decals, and would love to weather it as well as you have.
Thanks
Greg Snook
I'll send you the photos that go with the steps. It is actually rather quick & easy. Over the last 3 decades I've tried most methods and really like this one. Hardest part would be to find a Floquil Foundation replacement, although I guess any solvent based tan color would do, a rattle can would make it even faster.
  1. Nick and scrape the surface
  2. Paint with an even coat with Floquil Foundation
  3. Using acrylic paints (burnt and raw Siennas & Umbers, Ochre, Terra Cotta) randomly color individual boards. Don't need to be careful, quick is good. Wet the brush and thin the paint blobs on a palette. Craft Paints or artists tubes are fine. As a matter of fact, I will use any brownish craft paints to mix things up. You only need about 4 different colors each time, otherwise will look unnatural. Leave some boards Foundation.
  4. This is the unintuitive part. I then make a thin wash of Burnt Sienna acrylic and brush it on all over.
  5. Spray with Dullcoat (or similar)
  6. Apply a thin wash of turpentine and black oil paint.,
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RJ Dial

Mendocino, CA


Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Charging Ladles on flat cars

Gatwood, Elden J SAD
 

Tim & Group;

 

I just love that pic for so many reasons.

 

The “SPOUT” lettering is probably for the crew welding the ladle together.

 

The ones face down further down are teeming ladles for the back end of the furnace work.  The appliances are not yet installed, as they would be easily damaged.  These were used for teeming ingot molds.

 

This is a massive load of ladles for both ends, so probably a start up new mill or (more likely) complete rebuild to a new furnace type (electric or BOP/BOF) of thing. Youngstown, of course, had a massive mill complex, so maybe the latter going on there?

 

I also find the other cars fascinating.  There are the steel plates, structural shapes, and coil loads, to boot.  Simply fabulous.

 

Let me know if you want to discuss more, on steel loadings.

 

Elden Gatwood

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tim O'Connor
Sent: Friday, January 1, 2021 1:20 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Charging Ladles on flat cars

 


I have photos of single ladle loads of different types. But every once in a great while you might
see something like this photo shows! :-D


On 12/22/2020 2:13 PM, Gatwood, Elden J SAD wrote:

http://www.ejearchive.com/index.php?/albums/official-loads/content/co-loads-321/lightbox/

 

Group;

 

I went back into my photos, and yes, these are charging ladles.  From their size, they are for a full-size steel-making facility.  My guess is USS Gary Works.

 

They do appear to have those cross tie-downs that make good modeling.

 

These are not the ladles you’d see in an open hearth complex, but more likely an electric arc or basic oxygen process (BOP) shop, due to the need to charge the furnace direct from these large ladles.

 

I do not see refractory in the ladles (also a great freight car load), so they can’t be modeled with some of the steel hobby models that already have it installed.

 

Why no one does a ladle load like this is beyond me.  These are a MUST for anyone modeling a RR or branch serving a steel mill.

 

Elden Gatwood

 


--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: Photo: N&W Gondola 101078 (1950)

Scott
 

Lots of interesting chalk marks on that one.  "No good for ingots"  is different.  

Scott McDonald 


More Re: New year - new eBay listings

Clark Propst
 

Got reasonable offers on the last cars I posted, so I’ll offer three more...
 
 
 
 
Clark Propst
Mason City Iowa


Re: NP 5418

radiodial868
 

Nice. I think you've also just described the standard for steam era weathering for 2021 that many of us are using. The only tweak I'm currently doing different is after painting and before the Pledge Future coat and decaling, I apply a thin wash of Turpentine and black oil paint. It gives the weathering depth for steam era cars that me applying the pan pastels at the end can't do alone.  I've also found that if you do light swipes of a tan or light gray PP on the appliances and trucks, it highlights them as you would see them if the sun was shining.
--
-------------------
RJ Dial

Mendocino, CA


Re: Atlas Swift 4-hinge reefer

Eric Hansmann
 

Doug,

 

Is Cudahy 5557 a Mather car? It’s marked for return to E. Chicago where Mather had their plant. The car ends are a different design from later Mather cars.

 

 

Eric Hansmann

Murfreesboro, TN

 

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Douglas Harding
Sent: Monday, January 4, 2021 8:24 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Atlas Swift 4-hinge reefer

 

Phil, they are what we commonly call 36’ wood reefers. Attached is the photo of the Cudahy reefer #5557 that closely matches the Atlas model. And at the photo of Swift 9863. 5557 was built in 1928 and Atlas says they used a car built in 1925, so there may have been differences. An ORER would list the dimensions you are asking about. I’m with family right now and don’t have access to my library right now. But general dimensions would be close.

 

Let me reiterate that Swift had a wide variety in their reefer fleet, which changed consistently as reefers went off lease and were replace with other reefers. Some new and some coming off other leases. Steve Hile and others are working on compiling information about the Swift reefer fleet, but the task has been daunting due to a lack of concrete information. Most of what is known is from photos.

 

If you want an accurate Swift reefer model, the Sunshine models are the best I know about. Everything else will be a compromise. For my modeling purposes I have a fleet of the Atlas cars painted and lettered for the Decker meat packing plant on my layout, along with a fleet of the MDC 36’ wood reefer and the newer Rapido meat reefer. Each is a different car with differences in dimensions and details. I’m willing to accept the compromise to have some slight variety in my overall meat reefer fleet.

 

Doug Harding

www.iowacentralrr.org

 


Re: Sunshine vinegar car

Lester Breuer
 

Clark  One great build by Your friend.  I built one and have it on my blog

http://mnrailroadcab100.blogspot.com/search/label/tank%20car

I would not sell sell it for less then $200 plus.

Lester Breuer

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