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Re: Rocket Express Models Kit 1.1

WILLIAM PARDIE
 

Thanks for the heads up Tim. I think I'm going to need long term financing.

Bill Pardie


On Jun 5, 2015, at 11:28 AM, Tim O'Connor timboconnor@... [STMFC] wrote:

 


Ted Culotta has been selling off his print collection on Ebay for low, low prices :-)
I'd be surprised if Ted doesn't have a shot of one of the Rock Island cars, since
he seems to have just about everything else. ;-)

http://www.ebay.com/sch/tculotta/m.html

Tim O'Connor


However, according to the Rocket Express site, their car with fixed ends is the the next series, running from 159250-159899. The end door version is 160250-160899.

I don‚t know what differences, if any, there might be with this car. Perhaps Steve Hile does.

Brian Ehni



Re: Texas Central Peanut cars

Charles Morrill
 

Did you take pictures of the MKT caboose as well?
 
Charlie
 
 

Sent: Friday, June 05, 2015 8:14 PM
Subject: [STMFC] Texas Central Peanut cars
 


I drove through Gorman, DeLeon, and Dublin Texas this week and saw 4 boxcars labeled Texas Central. However, they were originally N&W 48000-48999. They now have 4 roof hatches in the center of the roof, I assume for peanut loading. That area is currently served by the FW&W and has peanut plants at Gorman and DeLeon.

 

The MKT operated the line from 1914 - 1967. The new TC ran it from 1967 - ? .  My question is when were the N&W cars sold to the TC and converted to peanut hauling?

 

Also in Dublin is CCCX 568,  a 1945 GATX ICC-103-A sulphuric Acid riveted tank car,  7611 gallon. Yes, I took lots of photos.

 

__________________________________________________

J. Stephen San difer

Minister Emeritus, Southwest Central Church of Christ

Webmaster, Santa Fe Railway Historical and Modeling Society

 


Texas Central Peanut cars

Steve SANDIFER
 

I drove through Gorman, DeLeon, and Dublin Texas this week and saw 4 boxcars labeled Texas Central. However, they were originally N&W 48000-48999. They now have 4 roof hatches in the center of the roof, I assume for peanut loading. That area is currently served by the FW&W and has peanut plants at Gorman and DeLeon.

 

The MKT operated the line from 1914 - 1967. The new TC ran it from 1967 - ? .  My question is when were the N&W cars sold to the TC and converted to peanut hauling?

 

Also in Dublin is CCCX 568,  a 1945 GATX ICC-103-A sulphuric Acid riveted tank car,  7611 gallon. Yes, I took lots of photos.

 

__________________________________________________

J. Stephen Sandifer

Minister Emeritus, Southwest Central Church of Christ

Webmaster, Santa Fe Railway Historical and Modeling Society

 


Re: UP in Kansas

Mikebrock
 

Mike Bauer responds to Tony Thompson's note that Bauer's message about various PC software systems is not a frt car message with:


"Sorry, I mis-sent that�.."

Which just barely kept him from being placed in Moderate Jail...along with a few others. In fact the message welcoming him to his cell was already written. I did feel that we should first remove some of the signs of the recent occupants of the cell [ actually, rats ] before the welcoming ceremony and Mike's apologizing message beat us to the punch. However, I'm certain that we'll be able to use the cell soon.

Mike Brock
Head Jailer


Re: Rocket Express Models Kit 1.1

Tim O'Connor
 


Ted Culotta has been selling off his print collection on Ebay for low, low prices :-)
I'd be surprised if Ted doesn't have a shot of one of the Rock Island cars, since
he seems to have just about everything else. ;-)

http://www.ebay.com/sch/tculotta/m.html

Tim O'Connor


However, according to the Rocket Express site, their car with fixed ends is the the next series, running from 159250-159899. The end door version is 160250-160899.

I don�t know what differences, if any, there might be with this car. Perhaps Steve Hile does.

Brian Ehni


Re: [RI_models] Re: Rocket Express Models Kit 1.1 [1 Attachment]

BRIAN PAUL EHNI
 

Nice find!

However, according to the Rocket Express site, their car with fixed ends is
the the next series, running from 159250-159899. The end door version is
160250-160899.

I don¹t know what differences, if any, there might be with this car. Perhaps
Steve Hile does.

Thanks!
--

Brian Ehni

From: RI Models <RI_models@yahoogroups.com>
Reply-To: RI Models <RI_models@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Friday, June 5, 2015 at 1:13 PM
To: RI Models <RI_models@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [RI_models] Re: [STMFC] Rocket Express Models Kit 1.1 [1
Attachment]





[Attachment(s) <#TopText> from pierre630@yahoo.com [RI_models] included
below]

found this builders photo on ebay, r.i. #159249 40 ft double door auto
boxcar , looks like rocket express model



do not know if this will help , but enjoy



dave


Re: UP in Kansas

mwbauers
 

Sorry, I mis-sent that…..

Best to ya,
Mike Bauers
Milwaukee, Wi

On Jun 5, 2015, at 1:27 PM, Tony Thompson wrote:


Mike Bauers wrote:

 

I’m going through a slew of problems with Java-script page redirects on my phone  . . .


      Um, Mike, not a freight car topic. If you meant to reply just to Tim, you now have to edit the "sender" address, as Yahoo automatically adds the group address.
Tony Thompson           


Re: UP in Kansas

Tony Thompson
 

Mike Bauers wrote:

 

I’m going through a slew of problems with Java-script page redirects on my phone  . . .


      Um, Mike, not a freight car topic. If you meant to reply just to Tim, you now have to edit the "sender" address, as Yahoo automatically adds the group address.
Tony Thompson             Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705         www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, tony@...
Publishers of books on railroad history





Re: UP in Kansas

mwbauers
 

Thank you Tim,

I’m going through a slew of problems with Java-script page redirects on my phone and the frustration sort of bubbles over for me when I see the same trick coding is now penetrating the computer browser Internet as well. My only recourse on the phone is to ban the intermediate trigger sites that funnel me to the annoying [app-game] sale sites. Which works until they later change those redirection sites.

I’m going to follow your suggestions and arm up Firefox with its anti-malware plug-ins. Mac-Safari is just not catching up to the latest trick site coding, fast enough.

I really like those flicks and once I arm my Foxfire, I’ll give it another go. I understand similar plug-in add-ons make Firefox and your computer almost bullet proof with Facebook and if you dedicate an install of Firefox to be a tricked out Facebook tool, you won’t have Facebook tracking you through your normal Internet use on your ‘main’ browser as well as having a much reduced bookmark file for FaceBook to mine. I’ve already set up a Firefox for that, I’ll add a bit more in needed plug-ins to it and use it for any sites that act like this one……… and maybe view a lot of the good old flicks of this site through it.

Best to ya,
Mike Bauers
Milwaukee, Wi

On Jun 5, 2015, at 10:28 AM, Tim O'Connor  wrote:


Mike, sorry you had problems with the web site. I have an XP PC and
have had zero problems with ff.org, no malware etc etc -- the videos are
Flash (Adobe) and I play them directly (I never download stuff to my PC).
Also I don't log in or share any information with the site. I use Firefox
with Adblock (both of which have large bad web site blacklists built in).
You may have problems if you run an anti-virus. Most anti-virus software
is viral itself -- I had a heck of a time eradicating Kaspersky Anti-Virus
from my PC! You really don't need it if you're a careful web user and have
a router firewall.

Video sharing is rampant, illegal, and unstoppable. Almost any movie you
can name is available online and there are dozens of good web sites. Free Films
is one I frequent because it is reliable. Putlocker is another. My kids showed
me these sites, I had no idea -- You just plug the laptop into the TV's HDMI
port and away you go!

I also watched Bad Day At Black Rock the other day -- Awesome flick that
features five minutes of beautiful photography of SP black widow F units
and Daylight painted passenger cars. And it's a great classic movie.

Tim O'Connor

>I just looked up the location of the registered site.
>It's in " Vienna Austria "........... a place where English is not the native language.
>So why are the American movies there, on an English site?
>Just wondering......... maybe others will as well ?
>Now I used a Mac........ Lord knows what it will try to do to a Windows PC.
>Mike Bauers


60 Days to St. Louis RPM: 2015 ST. LOUIS RAILROAD PROTOTYPE MODELER'S MEET - 8-9 AUG 2015

golden1014
 

2015 ST. LOUIS RAILROAD PROTOTYPE MODELER'S MEET


       
Meet us in St. Louis for the NINTH ANNUAL St. Louis RPM Meet on Friday, August 7th and Saturday, August 8th, 2015 at the Gateway Convention Center in Collinsville, Illinois.  Collinsville is 12 miles east of metro St. Louis on I-55/70.  The meet starts at 9 AM both days.  
Over 16,000 sq.ft. of high-quality models, modular layouts, displays, and hands-on workstations in the modern, professional Gateway Convention Center. Clinics and presentations by nationally-recognized historians and modelers.  Railroad Historical Societies and scale model vendors and manufacturers will also be in attendance.  Attendee model displays.  Evening home layout tours, fellowship, door prizes and much, much more!
The heart of our event is YOUR MODELS!  Bring your models, finished or in progress, for display and discussion.  All scales, gauges, and models from all eras are welcome; bring locomotives, structures, freight cars, dioramas, vehicles or other models. There are no contests. The purpose of our event is to share and learn new techniques, and meet your fellow modelers from St. Louis and around the Nation. We had over 1,400 models brought by attendees in 2014!  This year we have have even more room for models--48 tables--so if you bring it, we've got room for it!

We are co-sponsored by the Gateway Division, Mid-Continent Region, National Model Railroad Association.  Our friends at the Gateway NMRA can be found at http://www.gatewaynmra.org/default.htm
        
A hard copy of our latest flyer can be downloaded as a PDF here <http://home.mindspring.com/~icg/rpm/stlrpm.pdf>; .

Come see the fabulous Modutrak N Scale 65 x 15-foot layout--one of the best modular layouts you will see anywhere, in any scale, representing the Milwaukee Road in Wisconsin.  Mike Skibbe will provide a clinic on the layout--see below for more info.  Also, Clark Propst's mini-layout depicting the Allied Mills plant in Mason City, Iowa layout will be back, so if you missed your chance to operate the layout, you'll have another chance this year.  Come meet Clark--a popular RMC and Mode Railroad Planning author--and his crew from Mason City, Iowa.
BRING YOUR MODELS FOR DISPLAY!

Hours: 9:00 A.M. to 9:00 P.M both days. Admission: $25.00 Friday & Saturday, $20.00 Saturday only. Kids under 13 free with paid adult admission. Vendor set-up at 7:15 AM Fri. Sales end at 5:00 P.M. Saturday. St. Louis RPM is a not-for-profit event!

CLINICS
St. Louis RPM features nationally-recognized modelers and historians presenting all-new clinics in a relaxed atmosphere.  Presentations begin at 9:00 a.m. both days.  
JaredHarper:Operatingon Santa Fe's Alma Branch, May 1943, as seen in Model Railroad Planning, 2000.
KeithJordan:Modeling ATSF Refrigerator Cars in HOscale, with emphasis on the Post-WWII transition era.
Dave Roeder, MMR: St. Louis’s MasterModel Railroader presents How to Modifyand Detail Diesel Critters in HO and HOn3.    
David Lehlbach: CEO of Tangent ScaleModels, presents a to-be-announced freight car topic.  Perhaps somethingfor a new car?
MontSwitzer:Flat Car Loads & Cars That Haul Them,showcases late-50s era models and how to build then in HO scale.
ClarkPropst:Small Layout Planning, showing asurvey of small towns and how to model them in HO.
CharlieDuckworth:Update on the Bagnell Branch, showingscenery and operations updates on his popular Missouri Pacific layout.
Steve Funaro: CEO of Funaro &Camerlengo resin models, Steve will describe an all-new freight car project forSt. Louis RPM. 
Mike Skibbe: Better Modeling Through Peer Pressure!  examines the design standards for the ModutrakN scale modular layout.
BillWelch:Xxtreme Modeling.  Bill demonstrates extreme freight carmodeling and super-detailing in HO scale.
MikeWise:St. Louis in Transition, 1962-1982slide show - Special Presentation, Friday Evening at 7:30 p.m.
KurtKruse:Modeling Steel Without The Mill;focuses on modeling steel handling ops, circa 1980s, with emphasis on CNWlines.
BrianBanna:Modeling MP GP-35 Diesels—a special 90-minute presentation focusing on modelingtechniques and processes.
HANDS-ON LEARNING STATIONSIn addition to clinics, St. Louis RPM features nationally-recognized modelers demonstrating a wide variety of modeling techniques in the main ballroom.  These are free for attendees--just pull up a chair and get involved!
       
1.  Weathering: Dr. Jeremy St. Peter and his crew from The Weathering Shop will crash St. Louis again, demonstrating their amazing weathering techniques as seen on their website at http://theweatheringshop.com/.   Bring your models or buy models at the meet to weather and finish with the pros!
       
2. Weathering: Rolling Stock: Dave Schroedle of Protoweathering.com will offer hands-on weathering clinics all day, both days!  Bring your own models or buy them at the meet to learn new finishing skills using chalks and weathering powders.
       
3. Scratchbuilding and Weathering: David Ward of ProtoLoads is back, and will demonstrate modeling open loads and steel weathering at his tables.  See more of David’s amazing work, plus models for sale, at http://www.protoloads.com/

4. Scenery: Jason Klocke will conduct hands-on static grass clinics during the meet.  Come meet Jason--an Iowa-based CN engineer, and scenery author from Model Railroad Planning 2014--and learn his cutting-edge techniques for laying down and detailing static grass.   

5. Airbrushing: Sergeant Lee will be here with The Badger Airbrush Co., showing and demonstrating Badger's latest line of airbrushes for you to try, hands-on.  Yep, we're airbrushing indoors, people.  Sales too!

6. DCC Programming: Brian Post from the Gateway Division will be on hand with Decoder Pro for simple programming of your DCC-equipped engines.  He can do all brands--including LokSound.

BRING YOUR MODELS FOR DISPLAY!
       
VENDORS        St.Louis’ annual Scale Train Show, featuring 90 tables of hand-picked vendors,including Athearn, AMB, Bob’s Photos, Tangent Scale Models, Yarmouth ModelWorks, Cannon, Moloco, Plano, Rails Unlimited, Funaro & Camerlengo, QConnection, Railshop Ltd., ICG Custom Decals, Big Four Graphics, BadgerAirbrush, Protocraft, Mike Gruber Photos, Moon Dog Railcars, Spring Creek ModelTrains, ProtoLoads, Mask Island Decals, Weathering Solutions, Motrak Models,Iowa Scaled Engineering, Layout-IoE, St. Louis Microtools, Fox Valley Models,Ed Stoll Photos, Prairie Railway Display, Back Swamp Shops, Lake Jct. Models, andmore! We still have couple of tables left, so if you'd like to be a vendor please contact us right away.       
RAILROAD HISTORICAL SOCIETIES
St. Louis RPM features one of the largest annual gatherings of railroad historical societies in the nation.  Here's this year's Historical Scoiety line-up to help your modeling and research:
CB&Q HS
Pennsylvania T&HSNew York Central System HSWabash HSMissouri Pacific HSC&EI HSNickel Plate T&HSIllinois Terminal SocietyTerminal RR Association HSC&NW HSGM&O HSIllinois Central Railroad Historical Associationplus maybe one or two surprises... 
LAYOUT TOURSThe Litchfield Train Group's large HO scale layout will be open forvisitors on Thursday, August 6th from 3-5 p.m. Write or call LonnieBathurst at bathurst@litchfieldil.com (217) 556-0314for more info.  Home layouts in St.Charles, Missouri, including John Russell’s O Scale Rock Island and Eric Brooman’sUtah Belt, will be open for tours on Friday evening from 6 p.m. to 10 p.m.  Maps and directions and more information willbe available at the meet.  Friday night layout tours are for registered guests only.

PHOTOS FROM PAST ST. LOUIS RPM MEETS
2013 Meet photos can be found at here <http://www.pbase.com/golden1014/2013_st_louis_rpm_meet&;page=all>
       
...2012 can be found at here <http://www.pbase.com/golden1014/2012_st_louis_rpm_meet&;page=all>
...2011 can be found at here <http://www.pbase.com/golden1014/2011_st_louis_rpm_meet>;
...2008 can be found at here <http://www.pbase.com/golden1014/2008_st_louis_rpm_meet>;
...2006 can be found at here <http://www.pbase.com/golden1014/2006_st_louis_rpm_meet>;
...2005 can be found at here <http://www.pbase.com/golden1014/2005_st_louis_rpm_meet>;
...2004 can be found at here <http://www.pbase.com/golden1014/2004_stlouis_rpm_meet>;
       
and check out the St. Louis RPM 2012 video produced by Ken Patterson for Model Railroad Hobbyist magazine at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oins4ipx68E
       
ST. LOUIS AREA ATTRACTIONS
While you're in St. Louis, check out the National Museum of Transportation (http://www.transportmuseumassociation.org/exhibits.html), the John W. Barriger National Railroad Library at the campus of the University of Missouri (http://www.umsl.edu/barriger/), St. Louis Union Station, and some of the best railfanning in the world. More area attractions can be found at http://www.stlouisattractions.com/
       
SEE YOU AT ST. LOUIS RPM!
       
ACCOMODATIONS
Accommodations listed below are within walking distance of the GatewayCenter.  All the hotels below areoffering blocks of rooms at an RPM rate on a variety of room types and also ona first come / first serve basis.
Comfort Inn – (618) 346-4900. Very good shape with upgrades in 2012 and provides food service in the atrium. RPMrate is $95.59 for various types of rooms.

Doubletree by Hilton – (618) 345-2800. A local landmarkfor full service, great food, full bar, pool and other amenities and recentlyremodeled too.  $89.00 RPM rate.
Fairfield Inn by Marriott – (618) 346-0607.  Offering an RPM rate of 20% discount on the roomof your choice.  This Fairfield is in top shape, provides the family andbusiness traveler what is expected for this brand.
La Quinta – (618) 726-2323.  This is a BRAND NEW facility and has the mostrecent of the features typically found in this hotel.  RPM rate is $89.00for a variety of room styles.
Super 8 – (618) 345-8008.  Our tour of this hotel included aninspection of their newly remodeled rooms, food area, and lobby.  Looksnew, nice and very clean.  RPM rate is $63.00 for various room sizes. Four-star hotels in the area, approximately 6-7 miles and convenient to shopping, are:
Sheraton Four Points, Fairview Heights, IL (618) 622-9500
Hilton Garden Inn, O’Fallon, IL (618) 624-4499
Drury Inn & Suites O'Fallon  (618) 624-2211 ‎
Thereare many other hotel options available for you in Collinsville, Belleville, andO’Fallon, IL, and the St. Louis area, but they do not offer an RPM rate.  
Printable hotel information can be found here <http://home.mindspring.com/~icg/rpm/STLRPMHotel.pdf>; .
More hotel information in metro St. Louis can be found at http://www.hotels.com/de1426966/hotels-st-louis-missouri/
       
DIRECTIONS TO THE GATEWAY CENTER
Address: Gateway Convention Center - One Gateway Drive, Collinsville, IL 62234.  The Gateway Center Website is available at http://www.gatewaycenter.com for additional information and directions. Call 1-800-289-2388
- Traveling North on I-55/70: Take Collinsville Exit 11. At traffic light, turn left onto Highway 157/Bluff Road to Eastport Plaza Drive, turn Left. Continue to Gateway Drive, turn right. Gateway Center is located on your left.
- Traveling East on I-40 or 44: Take Interstate 55/70 North, to Collinsville Exit 11. At traffic light, turn left onto Highway 157/Bluff Road to Eastport Plaza Drive, turn Left. Continue to Gateway Drive, turn right. Gateway Center is located on your left.
- Traveling East or West on I-64: Take Exit 9 and then drive North on Hwy 157, approximately 7 miles, to Eastport Plaza Drive which is located off Hwy. 157. Turn left on Eastport Plaza Drive, then right on Gateway Drive. Gateway Center is located on left. and then left onto Gateway Drive. Gateway Center is located on right.
       
SEE YOU AT ST. LOUIS RPM!
BRING YOUR MODELS FOR DISPLAY!  
       
Contact John Golden at Golden1014@yahoo.com (812) 929-7181 or Lonnie Bathurst at bathurst@litchfieldil.com (217) 556-0314.
If you can't attend St. Louis this year, try to make another RPM meet near you.  Other venues include:
Bay Area Prototype Modelers http://www.bayareaprototypemodelers.net <http://www.bayareaprototypemodelers.net/>;
Central Ohio Prototype Modelers Meet https://www.facebook.com/groups/438383252883060/
Mid-Atlantic Prototype Modelers https://www.facebook.com/groups/MARPM/
Mid Continent Prototype Modelers Mid Continent Prototype Modelers <http://www.midcontinentprototypemodelers.org/>;
New England/Northeast Prototype Modelers http://www.neprototypemeet.com <http://www.neprototypemeet.com/>;
Northeastern Fallen Flags Prototype Modelers http://groups.yahoo.com/group/neffrpm <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/neffrpm?soc_src=mail&;soc_trk=ma>
Pacific Northwest Railroad Prototype Modelers http://www.northwestrpm.com/
Prototype Rails - Cocoa Beach http://prototyperails.com <http://prototyperails.com/>;
Railroad Prototype Modelers East http://www.hansmanns.org/rpm_east/index.htm
Railroad Prototype Modelers Valley Forge http://www.phillynmra.org/RPMMeet.html
Rails by the River - Pacific Northwest http://railsbytheriver.com <http://railsbytheriver.com/>;
Rocky Mountain Prototype Modelers http://www.rockymountainprototypemodelers.org <http://www.rockymountainprototypemodelers.org/>;
Saint Joe Valley Prototype Modelers Meet http://www.sjvrr.com/pmm.php
South Eastern States Railroad Prototype Modelers Meet http://www.rpmcarolinasgreensboro.org <http://www.rpmcarolinasgreensboro.org/>;
Western Prototype Modelers Meet http://www.westernprototypemodelers.org <http://www.westernprototypemodelers.org/>;

The event list above and much more information is available at Joe D'elia's RPM Website at http://www.railroadprototypemodelers.com/other.htm.

See You in St. Louis!
Signed,
Lonnie Bathurst
Dan Kohlberg
Clark Propst
Loren Casey
Dave Roeder
John Golden


Re: UP in Kansas

Tim O'Connor
 

Mike, sorry you had problems with the web site. I have an XP PC and
have had zero problems with ff.org, no malware etc etc -- the videos are
Flash (Adobe) and I play them directly (I never download stuff to my PC).
Also I don't log in or share any information with the site. I use Firefox
with Adblock (both of which have large bad web site blacklists built in).
You may have problems if you run an anti-virus. Most anti-virus software
is viral itself -- I had a heck of a time eradicating Kaspersky Anti-Virus
from my PC! You really don't need it if you're a careful web user and have
a router firewall.

Video sharing is rampant, illegal, and unstoppable. Almost any movie you
can name is available online and there are dozens of good web sites. Free Films
is one I frequent because it is reliable. Putlocker is another. My kids showed
me these sites, I had no idea -- You just plug the laptop into the TV's HDMI
port and away you go!

I also watched Bad Day At Black Rock the other day -- Awesome flick that
features five minutes of beautiful photography of SP black widow F units
and Daylight painted passenger cars. And it's a great classic movie.

Tim O'Connor

I just looked up the location of the registered site.
It's in " Vienna Austria "........... a place where English is not the native language.
So why are the American movies there, on an English site?
Just wondering......... maybe others will as well ?
Now I used a Mac........ Lord knows what it will try to do to a Windows PC.
Mike Bauers


Re: Western Pacific first boxcar series 15001-16000 in model

Garth Groff <sarahsan@...>
 

Jack and Fred,

I don't have access to those ORERs, so I missed that. Also my earlier count was off on the caboose conversions. There were 99 in total, though some were post-war. That still leaves over 200 cars that seem to have disappeared. The best way to tell would be to look at the WP AFEs, most of which I think are in the CSRM collection. That would be a massive undertaking.

Yours Aye,


Garth Groff

On 6/5/15 4:24 AM, fred@... [STMFC] wrote:
 

That's interesting info Jack, thank you.
If the 1942 ORER speaks of 135 SS cars in revenue and the 1945 ORER speaks about 158 there must have been a bunch set aside for rebuilding/unregistered by WP?

Also: WP built at least 53 cabooses from these SS cars during 1942-1945.
These cars -that also existed in 1942- would've normally spoken been added to the 135 ORER-registered cars in 1942?
So one can assume that there were a lot more SS cars of the 15001-series on the WP system (maybe in the car shops?), unregistered by ORER?

I'm also not sure if all 125 #26001-26125 cars actually went into plaster service in 1937 if only 35 received hatches in the late 1940's. Maybe some of these (1937-1942) renumbered cars were in revenue service too?

The 35 #15001-16000 'arch bar' cars you mentioned were probably in local (non interchange) revenue service untill 1947 they were assigned to store material service and renumbered into #8051-8085.
If there was only some picture proof of a 15001-16000 car in revenue service before 1947. (I now understand Bill's initial question). Must be somewhere out there...

Fred Jansz



Re: Western Pacific first boxcar series 15001-16000 in model

Fred Jansz
 

That's interesting info Jack, thank you.
If the 1942 ORER speaks of 135 SS cars in revenue and the 1945 ORER speaks about 158 there must have been a bunch set aside for rebuilding/unregistered by WP?

Also: WP built at least 53 cabooses from these SS cars during 1942-1945.
These cars -that also existed in 1942- would've normally spoken been added to the 135 ORER-registered cars in 1942?
So one can assume that there were a lot more SS cars of the 15001-series on the WP system (maybe in the car shops?), unregistered by ORER?

I'm also not sure if all 125 #26001-26125 cars actually went into plaster service in 1937 if only 35 received hatches in the late 1940's. Maybe some of these (1937-1942) renumbered cars were in revenue service too?

The 35 #15001-16000 'arch bar' cars you mentioned were probably in local (non interchange) revenue service untill 1947 they were assigned to store material service and renumbered into #8051-8085.
If there was only some picture proof of a 15001-16000 car in revenue service before 1947. (I now understand Bill's initial question). Must be somewhere out there...

Fred Jansz


Re: UP in Kansas

mwbauers
 

I just looked up the location of the registered site.

It's in " Vienna Austria "........... a place where English is not the native language.

So why are the American movies there, on an English site?

Just wondering......... maybe others will as well ?

Now I used a Mac........ Lord knows what it will try to do to a Windows PC.

Best to ya...
Mike Bauers
Milwaukee, Wi, USA

On Jun 4, 2015, at 11:46 PM, Mike Bauers wrote:

Then.......

You -must- sign up for an account to be able to view the film.

This is just my opinion......... But I hope I never see this cursed, twisted, damned site ever again !!!


Re: UP in Kansas

Tom Madden
 

It's been years since I watched "Picnic", but I can't imagine watching it, even now, and not giving all my attention to Kim Novak. Saw it when it was first released. I do remember the freight train rolling by, but of course the rolling stock was contemporary at the time so it was just moving scenery.


Tom Madden


Re: UP in Kansas

mwbauers
 

From what its doing to my computer as it is sent to all sorts of other sites when I repeatedly try to start the video............

STAY AWAY FROM THIS SITE UNLESS YOU CAN SUPPRESS ITS ON PAGE JAVASCRIPT MALWARE.... !!!

First trick it uses is you -must- -not- click the start button within the film view window.

You -must- instead click on the 'Watch Now' on the right side of the page........

Then....... 

You -must- sign up for an account to be able to view the film.

This is just my opinion......... But I hope I never see this cursed, twisted, damned site ever again !!!

Best to ya...
Mike Bauers
Milwaukee, Wi, USA



On Jun 4, 2015, at 11:19 PM, Tim O'Connor wrote:


some classic freight cars from 1955 in the beginning of
the movie "Picnic" ... if you get bored you can watch lots
of other movies too. I watched Forbidden Planet earlier. :-)

http://ffilms.org//?s=kim+novak

Tim O'Connor


UP in Kansas

Tim O'Connor
 

some classic freight cars from 1955 in the beginning of
the movie "Picnic" ... if you get bored you can watch lots
of other movies too. I watched Forbidden Planet earlier. :-)

http://ffilms.org//?s=kim+novak

Tim O'Connor


Re: ? about car stenciling...

Misc Clark
 

thanks, all! I'm edumicated about "EXW" now! Great group here...
regards,
Clark

On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 10:18 AM, destorzek@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:
 

And... EW is the exterior width, normally taken at "eaves or top of platform." The H on this line is the exterior height, in this case likely the height over the running board.

The three "I" dimensions are the interior length, width, and height.

CUFT is the cubical capacity in cubic feet.

Dennis Storzek



Re: Western Pacific first boxcar series 15001-16000 in model

Jack Mullen
 

Garth Groff said:
 I have seen no evidence that any cars from the 15001 series remained on archbar trucks. If so, these may be the missing cars otherwise not accounted for and were simply retired before the archbar ban went into effect.
If you mean photo evidence, I can't disagree, but there's documentary evidence in the ORER that the survivors in the 15001-16000 series retained their archbar trucks post-ban.

In both the April 1942 and Jan 1945 editions, the entry for the 35 cars in 15001-16000 is called out with "Note A - Cars in this series equipped with Arch Bar trucks."  The same note also apples to the 317001 series of DS cars renumbered from the 17001s.  The note seems to be a consequence of the archbar ban, to mark these cars as unsuitable for interchange.  I know the ORER sometimes has errors, but I don't think that's the case here.

Speaking of ORER errors, the 4-42 ORER shows just 135 of the SS boxcars remaining in revenue service: 35 in 15001-16000 and 100 26001-26100. But by 1-45, there are 158: the 35 in 15001-16000, and now 122 in 26001-26125.  Does the 4-42 entry reflect removal of 25 cars from the 15001 series but miss their appearance as 26101-26125?

Disclaimer: I have no particular knowledge of the WP car fleet, nor am I particularly a WP fan. I do have a fondness for these SS boxcars, since one of the MofW diner conversions was probably my first scratchbuilt STMFC project, some 50 years ago. It followed Sharpe Delaney's article in Oct 1962 RMC.

Jack Mullen



Re: Rocket Express Models Kit 1.1

BRIAN PAUL EHNI
 

Thanks, Steve.

Thanks!
--

Brian Ehni

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As a matter of general information, the Rock Island never used the
logo/herald on single sheathed cars. The road name was spelled out. The
RI¹s version of Railroad Roman lettering was called out on the diagrams
until the mid 1950¹s when they were updated to a more sans serif type of
lettering. But many of the older, single sheathed cars did not get
repainted, anyway. Nearer to the end of operations, only the initials and
number were used.

1950 would look pretty much like the delivery scheme.

Regards,
Steve Hile



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Thanks to Brian, Tony, Allan and Jim, I now have picture and description to
finish this car. Thanks again

Paul C. Koehler



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Paul,



You could also check the Rocket Express website. I believe the cars shown
there are lettered for the timeframe you are looking for.



Jim Kubanick

Morgantown WV




On Thursday, June 4, 2015 1:26 PM, "koehlers@earthlink.net [STMFC]"
<STMFC@yahoogroups.com> wrote:




All:



I have a fully assembled Rocket Express Models kit 1.1 for a Rock Island 40'
single sheathed, double door auto car built by the late Paul Lyons. I would
like to paint and letter for 1950. Does anyone have a source I can go to
see pictures so that I can do it correctly. Thanks



Paul C. Koehler










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