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Re: Photo: SP Yard

Eric Hansmann
 

I notify the yard clerk that a car is missing from my train and there’s an extra car without a waybill that I left on track 5.

 

 

Eric Hansmann

Murfreesboro, TN

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mont Switzer
Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2021 3:55 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: SP Yard

 

Tony,

 

How do you handle the car cards on that one?

 

Mont

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tony Thompson
Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2021 3:25 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: SP Yard

 

     One reason to turn cars might be the case where you have lettered each side for a different railroad.   <g>

Tony Thompson

 

 

 


Re: Photo: SP Yard

Mont Switzer
 

Tony,

 

How do you handle the car cards on that one?

 

Mont

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tony Thompson
Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2021 3:25 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: SP Yard

 

     One reason to turn cars might be the case where you have lettered each side for a different railroad.   <g>

Tony Thompson

 

 

 


Re: Photo: SP Yard

Robert Bowdidge
 

An SP employee who worked at Gemco (yard near GM Van Nuys) mentioned that freight cars for the plant would occasionally come in with an "unload this side" placard that needed to match the loading dock configuration.  There was an air-operated turntable at the yard that could be used to turn incorrectly-facing freight cars, but it was balky and often not functioning.  The backup solution was to run the cars several miles down the mainline to a wye at Burbank Junction.  If there wasn't time to reverse the car, then the placard would mysteriously disappear and the car would be delivered as-is.

Robert


Re: Jim Kinkaid's Freight Car Photos Collection

Jack Mullen
 

I've just taken a quick plunge into the "C" section, and it is indeed a great collection!  Yes, many are post-STMFC.  There seem to be a lot of Greenville photos I've not seen elsewhere.  My thanks to Jim Kinkaid for preserving and sharing these, and to those who have helped make them accessible.

Jack Mullen


Re: Photo: SP Yard

Tony Thompson
 

Schuyler Larrabee wrote:

Reeeely?? Who would do such a thing?  Think of the headaches for the billing folks!

  Richard Hendrickson did a bunch of cars that way (and omitted end reporting marks). Of course, he didn't have an operating layout, and the one he had been working on, was only a diorama where you would see passing trains from one side only.
     I inherited a few of those cars, and because my layout likewise has no reversing loops or wyes, cars are always visible from one side only. There are just separate waybills for each side, so that either side can be used in a session.
     Let me know if you have additional questions, Schuyler <vbg>.

Tony Thompson




Re: Photo: SP Yard

Schuyler Larrabee
 

Reeeely?? Who would do such a thing?  Think of the headaches for the billing folks!

 

Schuyler

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tony Thompson
Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2021 3:25 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: SP Yard

 

     One reason to turn cars might be the case where you have lettered each side for a different railroad.   <g>

Tony Thompson

 

 

 


Re: Photo: SP Yard

Tony Thompson
 

     One reason to turn cars might be the case where you have lettered each side for a different railroad.   <g>

Tony Thompson




Re: Photo: SP Yard

Steve and Barb Hile
 

Of course, I am drawn to what certainly appears to be a 10,000 gallon UTLX Type V car in the right foreground, ahead of the NP boxcar.

And could the UOCX car be a GATC 10,000 gallon car, like the Tangent model??

Steve Hile

-----Original Message-----
From: Eric Hansmann
Sent: Jan 21, 2021 12:21 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: SP Yard

Wow! That’s a great photo from the 1920s, Bob! Based upon the Pennsylvania Lines USRA single-sheathed boxcar, I’d estimate this is before 1927. After Lines West was folded into the main Pennsylvania RR corporate structure in 1924, they quickly painted out refences to Lines. Finding an in-service image of a PL USRA boxcar is rare.

 

Love all the other freight cars here, too!

 

 

Eric Hansmann

Murfreesboro, TN

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bob Chaparro via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2021 1:14 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Photo: SP Yard

 

Photo: SP Yard

An undated photo from the Huntington Library:

https://hdl.huntington.org/digital/collection/p16003coll2/id/21896/rec/638

This photo can be enlarged quite a bit.

This photo shows a great assortment of freight cars.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: Photo: N&W Livestock Car 26432 (Undated)

James Brewer
 

This is a N&W Class SF stockcar, built early 20th century.  Here is a link to the materials in the N&WHS Archives concerning this class:

https://www.nwhs.org/archivesdb/listdocs/select.php?index=rs&id=1759

Jim Brewer


Re: Photo: SP Yard

Eric Hansmann
 

Wow! That’s a great photo from the 1920s, Bob! Based upon the Pennsylvania Lines USRA single-sheathed boxcar, I’d estimate this is before 1927. After Lines West was folded into the main Pennsylvania RR corporate structure in 1924, they quickly painted out refences to Lines. Finding an in-service image of a PL USRA boxcar is rare.

 

Love all the other freight cars here, too!

 

 

Eric Hansmann

Murfreesboro, TN

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bob Chaparro via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2021 1:14 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Photo: SP Yard

 

Photo: SP Yard

An undated photo from the Huntington Library:

https://hdl.huntington.org/digital/collection/p16003coll2/id/21896/rec/638

This photo can be enlarged quite a bit.

This photo shows a great assortment of freight cars.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Photo: N&W Livestock Car 26432 (Undated)

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: N&W Livestock Car 26432 (Undated)

A photo from the Virginia Tech Universities Library:

https://imagebase.lib.vt.edu/image_viewer.php?q=ns2775

Click on the photo to enlarge it.

Too bad the stenciling is not more clear.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: Jim Kinkaid's Freight Car Photos Collection

Schleigh Mike
 

This collection is awesome  Don't miss it!!!  Thanks to all.

Mike Schleigh  Grove City, Penna.

On Thursday, January 21, 2021, 11:58:45 AM EST, Steve and Barb Hile <shile@...> wrote:


Back in the days of the Yahoo groups, Jim Kinkaid posted a large number of builder's photos, mostly Pullman Standard, to the files area of the Modern Freight Car list.  It was not possible to migrate those photos to the groups.io platform that our groups have now migrated to.

However, through the efforts of MFCL list owner, Jim Eager and Jim Kinkaid, himself, we are now able to make those photos available again on a Smug Mug site that can be accessed from the Pullman Library website at


Thanks to Bob Webber, the curator of the Pullman Library, for making this possible.

And a special thanks to Jim Kinkaid for adding more photos to the file so that the time period extends back to include car built before the time period of the MFCL.  So, there is a lot of items of interest to freight car fans, including a nice selection of Rock Island cars for folks on that list.

Please take a look and enjoy.

Steve Hile


Jim Kinkaid's Freight Car Photos Collection

Steve and Barb Hile
 

Back in the days of the Yahoo groups, Jim Kinkaid posted a large number of builder's photos, mostly Pullman Standard, to the files area of the Modern Freight Car list.  It was not possible to migrate those photos to the groups.io platform that our groups have now migrated to.

However, through the efforts of MFCL list owner, Jim Eager and Jim Kinkaid, himself, we are now able to make those photos available again on a Smug Mug site that can be accessed from the Pullman Library website at


Thanks to Bob Webber, the curator of the Pullman Library, for making this possible.

And a special thanks to Jim Kinkaid for adding more photos to the file so that the time period extends back to include car built before the time period of the MFCL.  So, there is a lot of items of interest to freight car fans, including a nice selection of Rock Island cars for folks on that list.

Please take a look and enjoy.

Steve Hile


Re: Photo: SP Yard

Benjamin Hom
 

Claus Schlund wrote:
"How about cars placarded as "Unload this Side" / "Unload other Side"

Bruce Smith wrote at 7:45 AM:
"In the RARE circumstance where a car must be directionally spotted for unloading (end door must face a ramp, for example)..."


Ben Hom


Re: Photo: SP Yard

Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 

Hi Bruce and List Members,
 
Bruce asked: "Why would you want to turn a freight car around to run the opposite direction down the line?"
 
How about cars placarded as "Unload this Side" / "Unload other Side"
 
Claus Schlund
 
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2021 7:45 AM
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: SP Yard

Ray,

Why would you want to turn a freight car around to run the opposite direction down the line? You simply add the car. In the RARE circumstance where a car must be directionally spotted for unloading (end door must face a ramp, for example) the car would be turned using the closest turntable or wye. However, generally, there was no need to "turn" freight cars.

Regards,
Bruce Smith
Auburn, AL


From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of Ray Hutchison <rayhutchison2@...>
Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2021 6:19 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: SP Yard
 
OK.  That brake wheel (and for all of the other cars facing you in the photograph) raises a question I have been thinking about for the last month or so.  It's not like all trains go in the same direction.  So let's say these cars are all headed west.  A freight consist that has been traveling east enters the yard.  Short of running them out on a wye, how does one turn around an incoming car to add to the westbound cars?


Re: Photo: SP Yard

Mont Switzer
 

Bruce,

 

Unlike the PRR that had an extensive infrastructure smaller roads (like the Monon) could only turn cars (and locomotives) at certain locations, so it took some planning.  As the need to turn steam diminished turning locations were eliminated.

 

As an interesting side note, in the intermodal era (starts in earnest about 1954) all trailers loaded and unloaded on the Monon had their noses facing north.  Thus no turning required. 

 

As interline piggyback cars were accepted turning once again had to be managed.

 

Mont 


From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] on behalf of Bruce Smith [smithbf@...]
Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2021 7:45 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: SP Yard

Ray,

Why would you want to turn a freight car around to run the opposite direction down the line? You simply add the car. In the RARE circumstance where a car must be directionally spotted for unloading (end door must face a ramp, for example) the car would be turned using the closest turntable or wye. However, generally, there was no need to "turn" freight cars.

Regards,
Bruce Smith
Auburn, AL


From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of Ray Hutchison <rayhutchison2@...>
Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2021 6:19 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: SP Yard
 
OK.  That brake wheel (and for all of the other cars facing you in the photograph) raises a question I have been thinking about for the last month or so.  It's not like all trains go in the same direction.  So let's say these cars are all headed west.  A freight consist that has been traveling east enters the yard.  Short of running them out on a wye, how does one turn around an incoming car to add to the westbound cars?


Re: Photo: SP Yard

Bruce Smith
 

Ray,

Why would you want to turn a freight car around to run the opposite direction down the line? You simply add the car. In the RARE circumstance where a car must be directionally spotted for unloading (end door must face a ramp, for example) the car would be turned using the closest turntable or wye. However, generally, there was no need to "turn" freight cars.

Regards,
Bruce Smith
Auburn, AL


From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of Ray Hutchison <rayhutchison2@...>
Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2021 6:19 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: SP Yard
 
OK.  That brake wheel (and for all of the other cars facing you in the photograph) raises a question I have been thinking about for the last month or so.  It's not like all trains go in the same direction.  So let's say these cars are all headed west.  A freight consist that has been traveling east enters the yard.  Short of running them out on a wye, how does one turn around an incoming car to add to the westbound cars?


Re: Photo: SP Yard

Ray Hutchison
 

OK.  That brake wheel (and for all of the other cars facing you in the photograph) raises a question I have been thinking about for the last month or so.  It's not like all trains go in the same direction.  So let's say these cars are all headed west.  A freight consist that has been traveling east enters the yard.  Short of running them out on a wye, how does one turn around an incoming car to add to the westbound cars?


Re: Southern Pacific Rebuilt Box Car 32620

Paul Doggett
 

Lester 

That’s another fine build.
Paul Doggett.    England 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 


On 21 Jan 2021, at 10:11, Garth Groff and Sally Sanford <mallardlodge1000@...> wrote:


Friends,

Actually pennies work well for house cars, are a lot cheaper ounce-for-ounce than lead, and unlike steel they are non-magnetic (unless you are using those old 1943 steel pennies). I keep a jar of pennies under my workbench just for freight car weights.

Yours Aye,


Garth Groff  🦆

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On Wed, Jan 20, 2021 at 10:38 PM BRIAN PAUL EHNI <bpehni@...> wrote:

I try to avoid steel weights these days due to possible rust issues in the future. You should at least paint them before installing.

 

 

Thanks!
--

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Brian Ehni

 

 

From: <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of Lester Breuer <rforailroad@...>
Reply-To: <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Date: Wednesday, January 20, 2021 at 8:14 PM
To: <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Southern Pacific Rebuilt Box Car 32620

 

I have completed the build of a Sunshine Models Southern Pacific (SP) single-sheathed rebuilt boxcar 32620 with “Pratt” truss design and Hutchins roof.  If you are interested in the build of this resin kit of SP rebuilt box car 32620 including changes and addition of parts not in the kit as resin cast Hutchins roof.  Photos and writeup of the build process including paint, lettering and weathering are now available on my blog I have to share photos and writeup of modeling projects on my Minneapolis & Northland Railroad Company.   If you would like to take a look please do at the following link:

http://mnrailroadcab100.blogspot.com/


Lester Breuer


Re: Southern Pacific Rebuilt Box Car 32620

Garth Groff and Sally Sanford <mallardlodge1000@...>
 

Friends,

Actually pennies work well for house cars, are a lot cheaper ounce-for-ounce than lead, and unlike steel they are non-magnetic (unless you are using those old 1943 steel pennies). I keep a jar of pennies under my workbench just for freight car weights.

Yours Aye,


Garth Groff  🦆

\

On Wed, Jan 20, 2021 at 10:38 PM BRIAN PAUL EHNI <bpehni@...> wrote:

I try to avoid steel weights these days due to possible rust issues in the future. You should at least paint them before installing.

 

 

Thanks!
--

Brian Ehni

 

 

From: <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of Lester Breuer <rforailroad@...>
Reply-To: <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Date: Wednesday, January 20, 2021 at 8:14 PM
To: <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Southern Pacific Rebuilt Box Car 32620

 

I have completed the build of a Sunshine Models Southern Pacific (SP) single-sheathed rebuilt boxcar 32620 with “Pratt” truss design and Hutchins roof.  If you are interested in the build of this resin kit of SP rebuilt box car 32620 including changes and addition of parts not in the kit as resin cast Hutchins roof.  Photos and writeup of the build process including paint, lettering and weathering are now available on my blog I have to share photos and writeup of modeling projects on my Minneapolis & Northland Railroad Company.   If you would like to take a look please do at the following link:

http://mnrailroadcab100.blogspot.com/


Lester Breuer

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