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Re: [SOUTHERNPACIFIC] HD Mystery Flat

John Barry
 

Thanks Brian,

It does seem to be that car without the brake wheels.  Too new for both me and the STMFC.  To the sale bin it goes.  Takers?
 
John Barry


ATSF North Bay Lines
Golden Gates & Fast Freights


707-490-9696


3450 Palmer Drive, Suite 4224
Cameron Park, CA 95682


From: "BRIAN PAUL EHNI bpehni@... [SOUTHERNPACIFIC]"
To: SOUTHERNPACIFIC@...
Sent: Wednesday, August 6, 2014 5:27 AM
Subject: Re: [SOUTHERNPACIFIC] HD Mystery Flat

 
That appears to be this car
> > in SP paint. The
model is of a car built long after 1944, including the trucks. Yours seems
to have had the brake stands removed from the ends.

The old Athearn HD flat would be more appropriate, time-wise, although I
don¹t know if SP had any like it.

Thanks!
--

Brian Ehni

From: "John Barry northbaylines@... [SOUTHERNPACIFIC]"

Reply-To:
Date: Wednesday, August 6, 2014 at 1:06 AM
To: Espee List , SP
, STMFC List
Subject: [SOUTHERNPACIFIC] HD Mystery Flat

I'm hoping this fits in with my 1944 era but I am not sure. I acquired an
SP marked 16 wheel HD flat from an estate. It is lettered for a F-200-1
which would have been built in 1941, but I think it may be an F-200-3 or a
foobie (SP that is). Can anyone tell me what I have? Photos and a more
detailed description on my blog at
http://northbaylines.blogspot.com/2014/08/heavy-duty-mystery-flat.html

John Barry

ATSF North Bay Lines
Golden Gates & Fast Freights

707-490-9696

3450 Palmer Drive, Suite 4224
Cameron Park, CA 95682



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Re: Car sounds

John Barry
 

Flange squeal could be an effective audio enhancement.  Though it post-dates this list, I have fond memories of the SP tank-train climbing over the loop at Waylong at dusk.  The squeal is etched in my mind, along with the occasional spark from the lateral friction.  A fixed sound module that operated on detection would probably work to get that feeling without having to equip a lot of freight cars.  The squeal would have been heard from the earliest days and would be era independent.

 
 
John Barry


ATSF North Bay Lines
Golden Gates & Fast Freights


707-490-9696


3450 Palmer Drive, Suite 4224
Cameron Park, CA 95682


From: "Pierre Oliver pierre.oliver@... [STMFC]"
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Wednesday, August 6, 2014 9:05 AM
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Car sounds

 
Subtlety done, ambient sounds can be quite effective. My friend, Trevor Marshall, has installed a number of sound modules on his layout. Birds, insects(including cicadas), and intermittent cows all combine for a truly effective atmosphere. Whenever I'm there, it sounds exactly like a hot August day in Southwestern Ontario.
I am struggling with the notion of sound modules in freight cars. Maybe brake squeals?
Pierre Oliver
www.elgincarshops.com
www.yarmouthmodelworks.com
On 06/08/2014 11:59 AM, Douglas Harding doug.harding@... [STMFC] wrote:
 
Sounds for mechanical reefers, livestock, hobos?

Doug Harding from my phone

From: cepropst@q.com [STMFC]
Sent: ‎8/‎6/‎2014 8:28 AM
To: STMFC
Subject: [STMFC] Car sounds

 
Brian Wilson had “Pet Sounds” Soundtraxx now has car sounds, I guess.
Anybody excited over this? Or, what the heck is it?
Clark Propst
Mason City Iowa




Re: Car sounds

Bruce Smith
 

Clark,

From the Soundtraxx site :"The 16-bit Tsunami SoundCar Digital Sound Decoder™ is the only DCC decoder to replicate railcar sounds, such as the clickety-clack, flange squeal, flat spots, generator, brake cylinders, and glad hand release. It also includes a selection of user-adjustable horns, bells and whistles for cab cars and cabooses. For even more realism, the decoder has four Hyperlight lighting outputs for interior and exterior lights."

Regards
Bruce Smith
temporarily in Saint Looey


From: STMFC@... [STMFC@...]
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2014 8:28 AM
To: STMFC
Subject: [STMFC] Car sounds



Brian Wilson had “Pet Sounds” Soundtraxx now has car sounds, I guess.
Anybody excited over this? Or, what the heck is it?
Clark Propst
Mason City Iowa



Re: Car sounds

Jack Burgess
 

I've used background sounds for decades...all very loud and just audible, they add a lot to the ambiance. As for sound modules in freight cars, Soundtraxx already has them:

 

http://www.soundtraxx.com/dsd/soundcar/soundcar.php

 

Jack Burgess

 

 

Subtlety done, ambient sounds can be quite effective. My friend, Trevor Marshall, has installed a number of sound modules on his layout. Birds, insects(including cicadas), and intermittent cows all combine for a truly effective atmosphere. Whenever I'm there, it sounds exactly like a hot August day in Southwestern Ontario.
I am struggling with the notion of sound modules in freight cars. Maybe brake squeals?

Pierre Oliver
www.elgincarshops.com
www.yarmouthmodelworks.com


Re: Car sounds

Pierre Oliver
 

Subtlety done, ambient sounds can be quite effective. My friend, Trevor Marshall, has installed a number of sound modules on his layout. Birds, insects(including cicadas), and intermittent cows all combine for a truly effective atmosphere. Whenever I'm there, it sounds exactly like a hot August day in Southwestern Ontario.
I am struggling with the notion of sound modules in freight cars. Maybe brake squeals?
Pierre Oliver
www.elgincarshops.com
www.yarmouthmodelworks.com
On 06/08/2014 11:59 AM, Douglas Harding doug.harding@... [STMFC] wrote:

 

Sounds for mechanical reefers, livestock, hobos?

Doug Harding from my phone

From: cepropst@q.com [STMFC]
Sent: ‎8/‎6/‎2014 8:28 AM
To: STMFC
Subject: [STMFC] Car sounds

 

Brian Wilson had “Pet Sounds” Soundtraxx now has car sounds, I guess.
Anybody excited over this? Or, what the heck is it?
Clark Propst
Mason City Iowa


Re: Car sounds

Douglas Harding
 

Sounds for mechanical reefers, livestock, hobos?

Doug Harding from my phone


From: cepropst@q.com [STMFC]
Sent: ‎8/‎6/‎2014 8:28 AM
To: STMFC
Subject: [STMFC] Car sounds

 

Brian Wilson had “Pet Sounds” Soundtraxx now has car sounds, I guess.
Anybody excited over this? Or, what the heck is it?
Clark Propst
Mason City Iowa


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Re: [Espee] HD Mystery Flat

BRIAN PAUL EHNI
 

My bad; that link was sent to the SOUTHERNPACIFIC Yahoo! Group. The link is
<http://www.walthers.com/exec/productinfo/932-42552
<http://www.walthers.com/exec/productinfo/932-42552%3E> >

Thanks!
--

Brian Ehni

From: BRIAN PAUL EHNI <bpehni@...>
Date: Wednesday, August 6, 2014 at 10:25 AM
To: STMFC List <STMFC@...>
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Re: [Espee] HD Mystery Flat

I replied with a link to the Manufacturer: Walthers.

Thanks!
--

Brian Ehni

From: STMFC List <STMFC@...>
Reply-To: STMFC List <STMFC@...>
Date: Wednesday, August 6, 2014 at 10:01 AM
To: Espee List <Espee@...>
Cc: STMFC List <STMFC@...>
Subject: [STMFC] Re: [Espee] HD Mystery Flat







Tony,

That confirms my supposition of what it is not from viewing the RailGoat
site. It looks very similar to the photo of the F-200=3 with the end
platforms. But that is listed as a 44' car and the main deck on my model
scales out to 50'. Still trying to find the model manufacturer.

John


John Barry


ATSF North Bay Lines
Golden Gates & Fast Freights


707-490-9696


3450 Palmer Drive, Suite 4224
Cameron Park, CA 95682






From: "Tony Thompson tony@... [Espee]"
<Espee@...>
To: Espee@...
Cc: STMFC <STMFC@...>
Sent: Tuesday, August 5, 2014 11:26 PM
Subject: Re: [Espee] HD Mystery Flat







John Barry wrote:
I'm hoping this fits in with my 1944 era but I am not sure. I acquired an SP
marked 16 wheel HD flat from an estate. It is lettered for a F-200-1 which
would have been built in 1941, but I think it may be an F-200-3 or a foobie (SP
that is). Can anyone tell me what I have? Photos and a more detailed
description on my blog at
http://northbaylines.blogspot.com/2014/08/heavy-duty-mystery-flat.html
John, the car is a more modern car, most certainly not like the SP F-200-1.
The car number, 500603, represents a post-1956 car number and would indeed
match SP Class F-200-1. But that car is actually quite close to the Athearn
4-truck flat car, has trucks closer together on the span bolster, and does
not have end platforms. The original F-200-1 cars were numbered 44091 to
44094.
Whoever lettered the car as you now have it was engaging in wishful
thinking, or was simply trying to fit the car into a specific era which is
not correct. You can see photos of the actual cars of this class in my
Volume 3 of the SP Freight Cars series.

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, tony@...
Publishers of books on railroad history

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Re: [Espee] HD Mystery Flat

BRIAN PAUL EHNI
 

I replied with a link to the Manufacturer: Walthers.

Thanks!
--

Brian Ehni

From: STMFC List <STMFC@...>
Reply-To: STMFC List <STMFC@...>
Date: Wednesday, August 6, 2014 at 10:01 AM
To: Espee List <Espee@...>
Cc: STMFC List <STMFC@...>
Subject: [STMFC] Re: [Espee] HD Mystery Flat







Tony,

That confirms my supposition of what it is not from viewing the RailGoat
site. It looks very similar to the photo of the F-200=3 with the end
platforms. But that is listed as a 44' car and the main deck on my model
scales out to 50'. Still trying to find the model manufacturer.

John


John Barry


ATSF North Bay Lines
Golden Gates & Fast Freights


707-490-9696


3450 Palmer Drive, Suite 4224
Cameron Park, CA 95682






From: "Tony Thompson tony@... [Espee]"
<Espee@...>
To: Espee@...
Cc: STMFC <STMFC@...>
Sent: Tuesday, August 5, 2014 11:26 PM
Subject: Re: [Espee] HD Mystery Flat







John Barry wrote:
I'm hoping this fits in with my 1944 era but I am not sure. I acquired an SP
marked 16 wheel HD flat from an estate. It is lettered for a F-200-1 which
would have been built in 1941, but I think it may be an F-200-3 or a foobie (SP
that is). Can anyone tell me what I have? Photos and a more detailed
description on my blog at
http://northbaylines.blogspot.com/2014/08/heavy-duty-mystery-flat.html
John, the car is a more modern car, most certainly not like the SP F-200-1.
The car number, 500603, represents a post-1956 car number and would indeed
match SP Class F-200-1. But that car is actually quite close to the Athearn
4-truck flat car, has trucks closer together on the span bolster, and does
not have end platforms. The original F-200-1 cars were numbered 44091 to
44094.
Whoever lettered the car as you now have it was engaging in wishful
thinking, or was simply trying to fit the car into a specific era which is
not correct. You can see photos of the actual cars of this class in my
Volume 3 of the SP Freight Cars series.

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, tony@...
Publishers of books on railroad history


Re: [Espee] HD Mystery Flat

John Barry
 

Tony,

That confirms my supposition of what it is not from viewing the RailGoat site.  It looks very similar to the photo of the F-200=3 with the end platforms.  But that is listed as a 44' car and the main deck on my model scales out to 50'.  Still trying to find the model manufacturer.

John

 
John Barry


ATSF North Bay Lines
Golden Gates & Fast Freights


707-490-9696


3450 Palmer Drive, Suite 4224
Cameron Park, CA 95682


From: "Tony Thompson tony@... [Espee]"
To: Espee@...
Cc: STMFC
Sent: Tuesday, August 5, 2014 11:26 PM
Subject: Re: [Espee] HD Mystery Flat

 
John Barry wrote:
> I'm hoping this fits in with my 1944 era but I am not sure. I acquired an SP marked 16 wheel HD flat from an estate. It is lettered for a F-200-1 which would have been built in 1941, but I think it may be an F-200-3 or a foobie (SP that is). Can anyone tell me what I have? Photos and a more detailed description on my blog at http://northbaylines.blogspot.com/2014/08/heavy-duty-mystery-flat.html
>

John, the car is a more modern car, most certainly not like the SP F-200-1. The car number, 500603, represents a post-1956 car number and would indeed match SP Class F-200-1. But that car is actually quite close to the Athearn 4-truck flat car, has trucks closer together on the span bolster, and does not have end platforms. The original F-200-1 cars were numbered 44091 to 44094.
Whoever lettered the car as you now have it was engaging in wishful thinking, or was simply trying to fit the car into a specific era which is not correct. You can see photos of the actual cars of this class in my Volume 3 of the SP Freight Cars series.

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, tony@...
Publishers of books on railroad history

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Re: Hoarders

Marty Ross
 

Hi Gang,


I'm brand new to the group and the C&NW is my area of interest.


In reference to "400" and the North-Western, it began with passenger service between Chicago and Minneapolis/St. Paul in 1935.  It referred to 400 miles in 400 minutes and was in direct competition (speed) with the Milwaukee Road.


As time passed, the "400" moniker became well known and was applied to other passenger routes as well.  It became so tied to the C&NW that the logo began to be used on freight service as an easy identifier.


A quick search for the history of the C&NW will provide details about the timeline info.


Cheers,

Marty Ross


Re: Custom Decals

Alexander Schneider Jr
 


The original question asked about COPYING decals, and many of them have the letter C in a circle denoting a claim of copyright.


Has the message on the package, "Reproduction of this decal in any form prohibited for commercial purposes", which seems to give permission to reproduce for personal use. Use for reference, for instance choosing the font and size and number ranges, is clearly "fair use".

Obviously Champ did not claim a copyright on the NYC logo, which I understand now belongs to CSX. They aren't going to come into your basement, but if you attempt to recoup your graphics investment by selling them over the Internet that might be a different issue.

Alex Schneider

From: "Peter Aue peteraue@... [STMFC]"
To: "STMFC@..."
Sent: Tuesday, August 5, 2014 8:42 PM
Subject: [STMFC] Re: Custom Decals



I find it quite disappointing that subject is again turning into a lengthy copyright debate instead of focusing on the technical and logistical issues involved in printing custom decals in small quantities.


Car sounds

Clark Propst
 

Brian Wilson had “Pet Sounds” Soundtraxx now has car sounds, I guess.
Anybody excited over this? Or, what the heck is it?
Clark Propst
Mason City Iowa


New Product release in Collinsville

Pierre Oliver
 

This coming weekend, at the RPM in Collinsville, Yarmouth Model Works will be releasing it's newest HO scale resin kit.
The Wabash 12 panel welded 40' boxcar.
The kit features a one piece body casting, etched parts, a new etched running board, custom decals and includes Kato ASF A-3 trucks.
For those of you who can't make the RPM, the kit should be listed on the website this coming weekend.
I'd waited until Friday to post this but the show starts Friday and I'll be on the road shortly.
See you in Collinsville

--
Pierre Oliver
www.elgincarshops.com
www.yarmouthmodelworks.com


Re: Custom Decals

Bill Keene <wakeene@...>
 

Peter,

Thanks for your response and the added “details”.

Cheers,
Bill Keene
Irvine, CA

On Aug 5, 2014, at 6:42 PM, Peter Aue peteraue@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:


I find it quite disappointing that subject is again turning into a lengthy copyright debate instead of focusing on the technical and logistical issues involved in printing custom decals in small quantities.

You asked questions and I'll try to answer them the best I can:
1. Suitable graphics artwork: Vector graphics files like Adobe Illustrator or Corel Draw file formats. I use Corel Draw X6 for my artwork and will only send Corel Draw files to my supplier, however I can import AI files into Corel Draw. 
2. Use of scanned or copied images: I am not aware of any technique to transform a pixel file like a JPG file or a TIF file into a vector graphics file other than manually redrawing the image. Therefore I cannot print any scanned images.
3. Decal sheet size: Though the Roland Versacamm printer of my supplier is capable of printing very large sheets, decals are normally printed on European A4 size sheets, which is roughly equivalent to letter size. To fit the artwork comfortably on the sheets and minimize shipping cost, I am asking for 8" wide and no more than 3-3/4" tall artwork. If you need more space, split the artwork into several pieces but use 3-3/4" height whenever possible.
4. Type of ink: As one of the group members already posted, the eco-solvent ink of the Versacamm printer is solvent based and UV cured. There is no such thing as bleeding colors when subjected to water.
5. Multiple colors: Any combination of colors within the CMYK color palette plus white plus metallic colors can be printed on the same sheet at no extra cost.
6. Cost: 50.00 US $ for a full A4 size sheet. Cost for partial sheets are prorated depending on the space needed.
7. Delivery time: In order to keep cost under control, I need to accumulate multiple print jobs before I place print orders. I may also need to put some work into the graphics files to allow white and metallic printing because they are not covered by the CMYK color palette. Last but not least, I take the liberty to travel extensively at times so in a nut shell, the delivery time may be as long as 2 - 3 months, though I try to keep it below a month.
8. Payment: PayPal only. I cannot handle checks. I will not ask for money before I have your decals in my hands ready for shipping.

I hope this answers most questions. The fact that I need vector graphics files pretty much eliminates any copyright issues because in my naive legal opinion I believe that you can draw pretty much everything without infringing any copyrights.

Peter Aue

 




Re: Those damn kits!

Dave Nelson
 

Jerry, There is one commercial product that looks great but doesn’t operate realistically… quite nice if all you want is to cruise along and watch.  It was Railworks… I think it’s now Train Simulator 2014, and it can be found on Steam.   The vendor is based in England and content is pretty strongly weighted towards Europe.

 

Another commercial product is called Trainz; I don’t know much about other than its origins were intended for replicating model railroads.  Over the years it has evolved and seems to have developed a good reputation. 

 

The third is the ancient product from Microsoft, their Train Simulator (MSTS).  Getting disks these days is a bit hard but they’re out there.  Where MSTS comes into “its own” is actually with its replacement software, an Open Source product called Open Rails.  It is 100% content compatible w/ MSTS so everything that was built for MSTS for the last 11 years will still run, but now using modern hardware and software.  The only reason to get the MSTS disks is to obtain the original content which has been reused ad museum and – here’s the stick in the eye: Open Rails has not yet developed a world editor.   I’m part of the Open Rails team. The big advantage I see in it is it is not a commercial product.  IOW, it’s life span is not depending on any cash flow.  So long as there are people interesting in working on the software it will continue to evolve and improve. IMO this is the one to go for if you are interested in North American Steam era content.

 

The last one is something called Run-8.  It’s goal is to achieve modern era real-world simulation and multi-player. Very limited content (basically Southern California); no word on their plans for world editors and/or content creation.  But if you want to run a modern locomotive as the real guys do, it’s worth checking out.

 

I’m hard pressed to suggest one over the others as preferences that would direct a person towards one in particular are going to be pretty personal givens and druthers.   Guests can view most topics on my board <<www.elvastower.com>> which is heavy on MSTS/Open Rails, but there is also a Railworks forum.  A whole lot of MSTS content is at <<www.trainsim.com>>; The most info for Railworks/TS2014 is probably at <>.

 

Feel free to contact me if you need more info.

 

Dave Nelson

 

From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...]
Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2014 11:27 AM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: [STMFC] Re: Those damn kits!

 




Dave,  What is your favorite software for a virtual reality railroad?  I have thought about this but never ventured into it. 

 

I was just thinking, somewhat tongue in cheek.  Considering all the expenses we have at the Amarillo Railroad Museum, maybe we should just do the Santa Fe from Canadian, TX to Clovis, NM, as a virtual railroad.  Would definitely give us a lot of space to put in one huge computer and hundreds of screens.  Lots of virtual engineers, a dispatcher, virtual tower operators.  The whole railroad for a very small cost. Might even attract a totally new generation of virtual model railroaders.  Skills would not be traditional (assembling kits, painting, decaling), but  creating CAD frameworks for prototypical cars and correct paint schemes.  I can see a 100 car reefers set being marketed on a CD. 

 

Jerry Michels 

 


Re: [Espee] HD Mystery Flat

Tony Thompson
 

John Barry wrote:
 

I'm hoping this fits in with my 1944 era but I am not sure.  I acquired an SP marked 16 wheel HD flat from an estate.  It is lettered for a F-200-1 which would have been built in 1941, but I think it may be an F-200-3 or a foobie (SP that is).  Can anyone tell me what I have?  Photos and a more detailed description on my blog at http://northbaylines.blogspot.com/2014/08/heavy-duty-mystery-flat.html


     John, the car is a more modern car, most certainly not like the SP F-200-1. The car number, 500603, represents a post-1956 car number and would indeed match SP Class F-200-1. But that car is actually quite close to the Athearn 4-truck flat car, has trucks closer together on the span bolster, and does not have end platforms. The original F-200-1 cars were numbered 44091 to 44094.
      Whoever lettered the car as you now have it was engaging in wishful thinking, or was simply trying to fit the car into a specific era which is not correct. You can see photos of the actual cars of this class in my Volume 3 of the SP Freight Cars series.

Tony Thompson             Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705         www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, tony@...
Publishers of books on railroad history





HD Mystery Flat

John Barry
 

I'm hoping this fits in with my 1944 era but I am not sure.  I acquired an SP marked 16 wheel HD flat from an estate.  It is lettered for a F-200-1 which would have been built in 1941, but I think it may be an F-200-3 or a foobie (SP that is).  Can anyone tell me what I have?  Photos and a more detailed description on my blog at http://northbaylines.blogspot.com/2014/08/heavy-duty-mystery-flat.html
 
John Barry


ATSF North Bay Lines
Golden Gates & Fast Freights


707-490-9696


3450 Palmer Drive, Suite 4224
Cameron Park, CA 95682


Re: CNW route of 400 - start date?

Robert kirkham
 

thanks for the tip Bill
 

Sent: Monday, August 4, 2014 10:17 PM
Subject: Re: [STMFC] CNW route of 400 - start date?
 


Rob,
 
I ordered a number of Viking roof pieces directly from Intermountain. Drop them a line via e-mail.
 
Cheers,
Bill Keene
Irvine, CA
 
 
 
On Aug 4, 2014, at 10:10 PM, Robert rdkirkham@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:

 
Modelling question this time:
I can see the intermountain modified AAR model 40899 looks approximately correct with:
    -  correct number of end ribs (not sure how good the configuration on the Intermountain model is compared to the real thing – photos on their site aren’t especially clear),
    - 6’ door has fairly good representation of the 5/6/5 pattern on the prototype, &
    - correct number of side panels. 
On the other hand, I will need a ribbed Viking roof and 8 rung ladders.
 
The ladders are easy enough; not sure where to pick up a usable roof – Des Plaines shows them out of stock.
 
Is there a better, currently available, modelling approach I’m missing?
 
The photo can be found on the City of Vancouver Archives web page by searching its number CVA 447-1729.
 
Rob Kirkham
 
 
Sent: Monday, August 4, 2014 9:26 PM
Subject: [STMFC] CNW route of 400 - start date?
 


Ah – I’d missed the height.  Thanks Tim and others for the quick info on this.
 
Rob Kirkham
 
Sent: Monday, August 4, 2014 6:50 PM
Subject: Re: [STMFC] CNW route of 400 - start date?
 


Rob

C&NW box cars 71000-74398 were all built 1941-1942 and delivered with
Route of the 400 lettering on both sides of the car. Your photo shows
the car freshly repainted in the same way. These were modified 1937 AAR
box cars (i.e. 10'6" tall with 5/5 ends). The 72628 was built by ACF.
All of the cars in this series had Viking roofs.

C&NW (incl CMO) owned ~7,000 (ballpark) of these 10'6" modified 1937 box cars,
so if there is a C&NW signature car to have for your era, this is a good one.

Tim O'Connor



I'm looking at a photo dated 1949 showing CNW 72628, a 1937 AAR boxcar in Vancouver with the Route of the 400 slogan. I model 1946, so the question is whether the slogan was added to the car before or after my modelling era; is the lettering scheme in the photo a reasonable basis to model for my era?
 
By the way, is the Microscale set 87-1006 appropriate for this scheme (has the slogans so seems so).
 
While I'm at it, what is 400 all about???
 
Thanks in advance for help on this . . . .
 
Rob Kirkham
 
 


Re: Custom Decals

Tim O'Connor
 

John, in defense of Champ, many of their sets made in the 1980's and later were
definitely as good as anything anyone else has done, and many are much better than
anything else that is available. When I built my Sunshine PFE R-70-2 reefer I tossed
out most of the custom Sunshine lettering, and replaced it with exactly correct Champ
lettering.

Also many Champ multicolor heralds are outstanding -- important to SP modelers who may
want to use Lark, Cascade, or other special logos, for example.

Tim O'Connor

This is all pretty much a moot point as to directly copy Champ's decals would not be a good thing to do. Although I agree that Champs had probably the best there was to be had back in "the day", their stuff is not up to todays standards.
John Hagen


Seaboard-Coast Line Modeler #23 now available

Justin May <jmay59@...>
 

The newest issue of the Seaboard-Coast Line Modeler, a free on-line publication brought to you by the staff of the Atlantic Coast Line and Seaboard Air Line Historical Society, is now available for download by using the following link:

http://s-clmodeler.aclsal.org/currentissue/

Right clicking on the file named "SCLM 23" and selecting "Save target as" or "Download Linked File" will save a local copy to your computer for reading. The issue has been posted to our website, but the website is not yet updated to reflect the current posting.

Included in this issue is an excellent article on modeling a SCL GP16 in full detail and modeling considerations of the Georgia, A&WP, and WofA's 50-ton AAR boxcars.

We are always appreciative of comments, suggestions, and improvement, so don't hesitate to contact us. Apologies in advance to those who may receive cross postings as we are attempting to spread the word on the newest issue.

Thank you,
Justin May, Editor
http://s-clmodeler.aclsal.org/index.htm