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Re: 40 foot Double door boxcars from Canada

O Fenton Wells
 

Thanks Pierre.

On Sat, Sep 13, 2014 at 11:50 AM, Pierre Oliver pierre.oliver@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:
 

As I said, Sylvan is not retailing through his website.
The patterns all still exist. And a simple request to Clare may have a happy result.
Nothing ventured nothing gained. The worst he can do is say no
Pierre Oliver
www.elgincarshops.com
www.yarmouthmodelworks.com
On 13/09/2014 11:31 AM, 'A Premo' armprem2@... [STMFC] wrote:
 



Not sure if Sylvan is still producing RR cars.Armand Premo
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Subject: [STMFC] 40 foot Double door boxcars from Canada

 

I need some help.  I want to do some Canadian boxcars. I have info and photos of the 40 foot single door cars.  I would like to do at least one 40 ft Double door car.  Does anyone have photos of and information on CNR cars in the 573xxx and 587xxx series, or the CPR 296xxx to 299xxx series or the GTW 583xxx and or 585xxx series.  

I model 1953 and would love to have a photo, a diagram and enough info on roofs, doors, ends, trucks and side panel configuration to do a "close enough" bash for one of these cars.

Thanking anyone in advance for help with this.

Questions regarding this can be sent off list if desired so we don't drag non interested parties into and unwanted conversation

Fenton Wells

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Re: 40 foot Double door boxcars from Canada

Ian Cranstone
 

There are some photos of the CN cars on my website (see below, then navigate to the appropriate page), I have photos of some CP cars, but they're not on the website yet.

Aside from the Funaro kits for CV/GTW cars, which I believe are of the 583xxx series, I don't think there are any kits available. The CN 587000-587399 were fairly conventional 40' boxcars when built, but in 1946 CN opted to increase inside height from 10' to 10'6".  This left them rather unconventional (you'll find photos of both groups, pre- and post-rebuilding at www.nakina.net/cn/cn5.html).  Some years ago, Brian Pate wrote an article on modelling one of these cars, published in Canadian Railway Modeller.

Ian Cranstone

Osgoode, Ontario, Canada

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http://freightcars.nakina.net


On 2014-09-13, at 11:01 AM, srrfan1401@... [STMFC] wrote:

 

I need some help.  I want to do some Canadian boxcars. I have info and photos of the 40 foot single door cars.  I would like to do at least one 40 ft Double door car.  Does anyone have photos of and information on CNR cars in the 573xxx and 587xxx series, or the CPR 296xxx to 299xxx series or the GTW 583xxx and or 585xxx series.  

I model 1953 and would love to have a photo, a diagram and enough info on roofs, doors, ends, trucks and side panel configuration to do a "close enough" bash for one of these cars.

Thanking anyone in advance for help with this.

Questions regarding this can be sent off list if desired so we don't drag non interested parties into and unwanted conversation

Fenton Wells

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Re: 40 foot Double door boxcars from Canada

Pierre Oliver
 

As I said, Sylvan is not retailing through his website.
The patterns all still exist. And a simple request to Clare may have a happy result.
Nothing ventured nothing gained. The worst he can do is say no
Pierre Oliver
www.elgincarshops.com
www.yarmouthmodelworks.com
On 13/09/2014 11:31 AM, 'A Premo' armprem2@... [STMFC] wrote:

 



Not sure if Sylvan is still producing RR cars.Armand Premo
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2014 11:01 AM
Subject: [STMFC] 40 foot Double door boxcars from Canada

 

I need some help.  I want to do some Canadian boxcars. I have info and photos of the 40 foot single door cars.  I would like to do at least one 40 ft Double door car.  Does anyone have photos of and information on CNR cars in the 573xxx and 587xxx series, or the CPR 296xxx to 299xxx series or the GTW 583xxx and or 585xxx series.  

I model 1953 and would love to have a photo, a diagram and enough info on roofs, doors, ends, trucks and side panel configuration to do a "close enough" bash for one of these cars.

Thanking anyone in advance for help with this.

Questions regarding this can be sent off list if desired so we don't drag non interested parties into and unwanted conversation

Fenton Wells

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Re: 40 foot Double door boxcars from Canada

Armand Premo
 


Not sure if Sylvan is still producing RR cars.Armand Premo

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2014 11:01 AM
Subject: [STMFC] 40 foot Double door boxcars from Canada

 

I need some help.  I want to do some Canadian boxcars. I have info and photos of the 40 foot single door cars.  I would like to do at least one 40 ft Double door car.  Does anyone have photos of and information on CNR cars in the 573xxx and 587xxx series, or the CPR 296xxx to 299xxx series or the GTW 583xxx and or 585xxx series.  

I model 1953 and would love to have a photo, a diagram and enough info on roofs, doors, ends, trucks and side panel configuration to do a "close enough" bash for one of these cars.

Thanking anyone in advance for help with this.

Questions regarding this can be sent off list if desired so we don't drag non interested parties into and unwanted conversation

Fenton Wells

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Re: Boxcar prototype

Bill Welch
 

Very true but in the case of the War Emergency boxcars, probably becuase they were intended initially to have their composite sides replaced with steel—at least that is the way I remember it—their ends are wider.

Bill Welch


Re: 40 foot Double door boxcars from Canada

Pierre Oliver
 

Sylvan Scale Models did offer a 40' DD steel boxcar. He doesn't offer freight cars on his website anymore, but a private email request may work.
Pierre Oliver
www.elgincarshops.com
www.yarmouthmodelworks.com
On 9/13/2014 11:01 AM, srrfan1401@... [STMFC] wrote:

 

I need some help.  I want to do some Canadian boxcars. I have info and photos of the 40 foot single door cars.  I would like to do at least one 40 ft Double door car.  Does anyone have photos of and information on CNR cars in the 573xxx and 587xxx series, or the CPR 296xxx to 299xxx series or the GTW 583xxx and or 585xxx series.  

I model 1953 and would love to have a photo, a diagram and enough info on roofs, doors, ends, trucks and side panel configuration to do a "close enough" bash for one of these cars.

Thanking anyone in advance for help with this.

Questions regarding this can be sent off list if desired so we don't drag non interested parties into and unwanted conversation

Fenton Wells

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40 foot Double door boxcars from Canada

O Fenton Wells
 

I need some help.  I want to do some Canadian boxcars. I have info and photos of the 40 foot single door cars.  I would like to do at least one 40 ft Double door car.  Does anyone have photos of and information on CNR cars in the 573xxx and 587xxx series, or the CPR 296xxx to 299xxx series or the GTW 583xxx and or 585xxx series.  

I model 1953 and would love to have a photo, a diagram and enough info on roofs, doors, ends, trucks and side panel configuration to do a "close enough" bash for one of these cars.

Thanking anyone in advance for help with this.

Questions regarding this can be sent off list if desired so we don't drag non interested parties into and unwanted conversation

Fenton Wells

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Re: Tahoe trucks w/ semiscale wheels

riverman_vt@...
 

   You are correct about the air controlled hump yard, Jon. I cannot recall whose it was

but recall seeing it during layout tours of the 1975 "Rails Alive" NMRA National Convention

that year in Dayton, Ohio. Dayton was a behive of model rail activity at that time with Allen

McClelland's Virginian & Ohio and Jim Paine's Durham & Southern being but two of a large

number of pikes seen on the layout tours. The air retarders for the humpyard seemed to

work quite well. IIRC the same gentleman was using air controlled switches that also

worked quite well.

 

Cordially, Don Valentine


Micro Mark showing 3D printer

Bill Welch
 

I went on the Micro Mark website looking for something and immediately noticed they are showing a 3D printer.


Bill Welch


Re: Tahoe trucks w/ semiscale wheels

paul.doggett2472 <paul.doggett2472@...>
 

Yes someone did it was on a model railroader video it did work but i cannot remember the guys name.
Paul Doggett
England 




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"jon miller atsfus@... [STMFC]" <STMFC@...> wrote:
 

On 9/12/2014 6:03 PM, johnsykesiii@... [STMFC] wrote:


What you need is DCC controlled retarders for your hump yard!!


    Didn't someone make a hump yard (many years ago) with air retarders?  Seems the air retarders couldn't be controlled with DCC and maybe a micro-controller?

-- 

Jon Miller
For me time stopped in 1941
Digitrax--Chief/Zephyr systems, JMRI User
NMRA Life member #2623
Member SFRH&MS


Re: Loading large ship propellers on rail cars

Paul Koehler
 

Allen:

 

Thanks

 

Paul C. Koehler

 


From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...]
Sent: Friday, September 12, 2014 8:11 PM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: [STMFC] Re: Loading large ship propellers on rail cars

 

 

Paul,

 

I have a set of the AAR loading Pamphlets MD-1 thru MD-7 covering the 1950 to 1953 period and could find no reference to the loading of propellers which surprised me.  MD-7 even covers military equipment.  I also have several of the numbered Pamphlets but do not have them all and again no reference to propellers.

 

There could be a numbered pamphlet that I do not have that covers this subject.

 

Good luck!

 

Allen Cain

 


Re: Loading large ship propellers on rail cars

Allen Cain
 

Paul,

 

I have a set of the AAR loading Pamphlets MD-1 thru MD-7 covering the 1950 to 1953 period and could find no reference to the loading of propellers which surprised me.  MD-7 even covers military equipment.  I also have several of the numbered Pamphlets but do not have them all and again no reference to propellers.

 

There could be a numbered pamphlet that I do not have that covers this subject.

 

Good luck!

 

Allen Cain

 


Re: Boxcar prototype

Allan Smith
 

Try a CBQ XM-28 boxcar am smith


Re: Tahoe trucks w/ semiscale wheels

jon miller <atsfus@...>
 

On 9/12/2014 6:03 PM, johnsykesiii@... [STMFC] wrote:


What you need is DCC controlled retarders for your hump yard!!


    Didn't someone make a hump yard (many years ago) with air retarders?  Seems the air retarders couldn't be controlled with DCC and maybe a micro-controller?

-- 

Jon Miller
For me time stopped in 1941
Digitrax--Chief/Zephyr systems, JMRI User
NMRA Life member #2623
Member SFRH&MS


Re: Tahoe trucks w/ semiscale wheels

jon miller <atsfus@...>
 

On 9/12/2014 6:03 PM, johnsykesiii@... [STMFC] wrote:


What you need is DCC controlled retarders for your hump yard!!


    Didn't someone make a hump yard (many years ago) with air retarders?  Seems the air retarders couldn't be controlled with DCC and maybe a micro-controller?

-- 

Jon Miller
For me time stopped in 1941
Digitrax--Chief/Zephyr systems, JMRI User
NMRA Life member #2623
Member SFRH&MS


Re: Tahoe trucks w/ semiscale wheels

John Sykes III
 

Dave --


What you need is DCC controlled retarders for your hump yard!!


(I know --- Groan!). :-O


-- John


Re: Boxcar prototype

csxt5555
 

I own the masters I am making all my ends roofs and doors in resin.  I will look into those roads and see what I can do.

Kevin Sprayberry 


On Sep 12, 2014, at 4:05 PM, "fgexbill@... [STMFC]" <STMFC@...> wrote:

 

One group of SS cars that were built with 4/5 DN ends and Murphy rectangular paneled roof would be the War Emergency boxcars built for the Birmingham Southern, Central of Georgia, Atlanta & West Point, Western Railway of Alabama and Georgia. These have been well documented in Mainline Modeler and RP CYC.


Kevin, permit to suggest that before you start gluing things to the roof and ends you have resin copies made for other projects.

Bill Welch


Re: Boxcar prototype

Bill Welch
 

One group of SS cars that were built with 4/5 DN ends and Murphy rectangular paneled roof would be the War Emergency boxcars built for the Birmingham Southern, Central of Georgia, Atlanta & West Point, Western Railway of Alabama and Georgia. These have been well documented in Mainline Modeler and RP CYC.

Kevin, permit to suggest that before you start gluing things to the roof and ends you have resin copies made for other projects.

Bill Welch


Re: Loading large ship propellers on rail cars

Paul Koehler
 

Charles:

 

Thanks for looking

 

Paul C. Koehler

 


From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...]
Sent: Friday, September 12, 2014 11:42 AM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: [STMFC] Re: Loading large ship propellers on rail cars

 

 

I looked through a few supplements but didn't see it. I don't have a complete AAR open car loading rule book.

These links might help:
Discussion and color comments:
http://prrthsdiscussionweb30239.yuku.com/topic/2596/Ship-s-propeller-flat-car-load#.VBM9SEj0Tzc

Photo: http://members.trainweb.com/bedt/bedt/bnyoversize1942.jpg

Photo source and description:
http://members.trainweb.com/bedt/BEDT.html#BEDT
search for "propeller" to find it on the page.


Re: Loading large ship propellers on rail cars

Charles
 

I looked through a few supplements but didn't see it. I don't have a complete AAR open car loading rule book.

These links might help:
Discussion and color comments:
http://prrthsdiscussionweb30239.yuku.com/topic/2596/Ship-s-propeller-flat-car-load#.VBM9SEj0Tzc

Photo: http://members.trainweb.com/bedt/bedt/bnyoversize1942.jpg

Photo source and description:
http://members.trainweb.com/bedt/BEDT.html#BEDT
search for "propeller" to find it on the page.

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