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Re: Updated 1944 USRA single sheathed cars

Eric Hansmann
 

These later tabulations of the USRA single-sheathed boxcars are great resources. As a starting point, the original USRA car assignment details are available on this resource page.


Eric Hansmann
Murfreesboro, TN


On 06/15/2021 7:06 PM John Barry <northbaylines@...> wrote:


Update: Thanks to Jim Gates eagle eyes, I removed the PRR 83589 X25 series I misread as X26 and updated the totals in the text and table.  The updated info is in the Blog at the location below.  22201 SS USRA cars in Oct 44 with 9765 PRR X26s.


John Barry
 
ATSF North Bay Lines 
Golden Gates & Fast Freights 
Lovettsville, VA

707-490-9696 


Re: PRR boxcar lettering late 50s

Brian Carlson
 

PK didn’t start until the 60’s so either CK or SK. 

Brian J. Carlson 

On Jun 15, 2021, at 10:27 PM, mopacfirst <ron.merrick@...> wrote:

For the X26C and the X29B/X29D,  in the late 50s timeframe, what would the most common lettering scheme be?  I know what they were built with.

As 10 to 14 year old cars, were many of them repainted already into the PK scheme, or would many of them have been in decent condition in the SK schemes?  Would many of the X26C still have been in CK?

Ron Merrick
offline, but still receiving frequent Pennsy cars


PRR boxcar lettering late 50s

mopacfirst
 

For the X26C and the X29B/X29D,  in the late 50s timeframe, what would the most common lettering scheme be?  I know what they were built with.

As 10 to 14 year old cars, were many of them repainted already into the PK scheme, or would many of them have been in decent condition in the SK schemes?  Would many of the X26C still have been in CK?

Ron Merrick
offline, but still receiving frequent Pennsy cars


Re: [Plastic Freight Car Builders] CNW 87232

 

My pleasure. One of my uncles flew into Goose Bay, Labrador, and got a tour of a Liberty Ship there. The OTC tools were still there in the 70’s. 

Thanks!
Brian Ehni 
(Sent from my iPhone)

On Jun 15, 2021, at 9:09 PM, John Barry <northbaylines@...> wrote:


Brian,

Thanks for posting the family related photo!  Although Joshua Hendy was in Sunnyvale at the other end of SF Bay, my layout serves the Kaiser Richmond yards that Hendy made scads of engines for.  

Charlie,

Although the actual routing was likely CNW UP SP, through Omaha and Ogden, if the Rock Island agent had better steaks, it might have gone CRIP  ATSF  SP through Kansas City.  With that banner, I can almost see the final interchange at the Richmond Inner Harbor around shift change at Kaiser.  Thanks for the scale banner.

John Barry
 
ATSF North Bay Lines 
Golden Gates & Fast Freights 
Lovettsville, VA


707-490-9696 






On Tuesday, June 15, 2021, 04:36:03 PM EDT, Charlie Vlk <cvlk@...> wrote:


Brian-


It appears you need to look for a 10’-6” IH AAR box car with a Youngstown door.   Need to check if the roof is a Viking or some other type.

You might get lucky and find a C&NW that only needs to have the number changed.

Here is a pdf of the banner.   Since it is on a white background I would size the boxcar on my drawing to HO and print out the banner as a separate image on white decal stock.  The banner not on the car has a slight black border to use as a guide to cut the banner to size.

It should just fit between the door and the ladder.

 

Have Fun!!

Charlie Vlk

 


Re: [Plastic Freight Car Builders] CNW 87232

John Barry
 

Brian,

Thanks for posting the family related photo!  Although Joshua Hendy was in Sunnyvale at the other end of SF Bay, my layout serves the Kaiser Richmond yards that Hendy made scads of engines for.  

Charlie,

Although the actual routing was likely CNW UP SP, through Omaha and Ogden, if the Rock Island agent had better steaks, it might have gone CRIP  ATSF  SP through Kansas City.  With that banner, I can almost see the final interchange at the Richmond Inner Harbor around shift change at Kaiser.  Thanks for the scale banner.

John Barry
 
ATSF North Bay Lines 
Golden Gates & Fast Freights 
Lovettsville, VA


707-490-9696 






On Tuesday, June 15, 2021, 04:36:03 PM EDT, Charlie Vlk <cvlk@...> wrote:


Brian-


It appears you need to look for a 10’-6” IH AAR box car with a Youngstown door.   Need to check if the roof is a Viking or some other type.

You might get lucky and find a C&NW that only needs to have the number changed.

Here is a pdf of the banner.   Since it is on a white background I would size the boxcar on my drawing to HO and print out the banner as a separate image on white decal stock.  The banner not on the car has a slight black border to use as a guide to cut the banner to size.

It should just fit between the door and the ladder.

 

Have Fun!!

Charlie Vlk

 


Re: [Plastic Freight Car Builders] CNW 87232

 

The photo seems to show a P-S builder logo, like Clark’s build…

 

 

Thanks!
--

Brian Ehni

 

 

From: <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...>
Reply-To: <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Date: Tuesday, June 15, 2021 at 4:48 PM
To: <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] [Plastic Freight Car Builders] CNW 87232

 


CNW 71838 is from series 71000-71998 built 1941 GATC (VIKING Roof)


On 6/15/2021 4:35 PM, Charlie Vlk wrote:

Brian-


It appears you need to look for a 10’-6” IH AAR box car with a Youngstown door.   Need to check if the roof is a Viking or some other type.

You might get lucky and find a C&NW that only needs to have the number changed.

Here is a pdf of the banner.   Since it is on a white background I would size the boxcar on my drawing to HO and print out the banner as a separate image on white decal stock.  The banner not on the car has a slight black border to use as a guide to cut the banner to size.

It should just fit between the door and the ladder.

 

Have Fun!!

Charlie Vlk

 

Attachments:


Updated 1944 USRA single sheathed cars

John Barry
 

Update: Thanks to Jim Gates eagle eyes, I removed the PRR 83589 X25 series I misread as X26 and updated the totals in the text and table.  The updated info is in the Blog at the location below.  22201 SS USRA cars in Oct 44 with 9765 PRR X26s.


John Barry
 
ATSF North Bay Lines 
Golden Gates & Fast Freights 
Lovettsville, VA


707-490-9696 






On Tuesday, June 15, 2021, 02:03:28 PM EDT, John Barry <northbaylines@...> wrote:


With the pending release of the Rapido SS USRA car, I did a little homework with my October 1944 ORER.  I posted a list of the 2305 cars listed there in the following blog post:  The Rapido Single Sheathed USRA Box Car


Happy Modeling


John Barry
 
ATSF North Bay Lines 
Golden Gates & Fast Freights 
Lovettsville, VA


707-490-9696 





Re: Article: The Story of Milk Transportation By Rail

Dave Parker
 

Can't remember if I created this PDF version, or somebody else did, but here it is.
--
Dave Parker
Swall Meadows, CA


Re: [Plastic Freight Car Builders] CNW 87232

Tim O'Connor
 


CNW 71838 is from series 71000-71998 built 1941 GATC (VIKING Roof)


On 6/15/2021 4:35 PM, Charlie Vlk wrote:

Brian-


It appears you need to look for a 10’-6” IH AAR box car with a Youngstown door.   Need to check if the roof is a Viking or some other type.

You might get lucky and find a C&NW that only needs to have the number changed.

Here is a pdf of the banner.   Since it is on a white background I would size the boxcar on my drawing to HO and print out the banner as a separate image on white decal stock.  The banner not on the car has a slight black border to use as a guide to cut the banner to size.

It should just fit between the door and the ladder.

 

Have Fun!!

Charlie Vlk

 

Attachments:

_._,_._,_


--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: [Plastic Freight Car Builders] CNW 87232

Charlie Vlk
 

All-

I could not tell from the photo if the car had riveted sides.  I sent out the reply before looking at Clark’s post.

Charlie Vlk

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of BRIAN PAUL EHNI
Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2021 11:41 AM
To: PlasticFreightCarBuiilders@PlasticFreightCarBuiilders.groups.io; cepropst@q.com
Cc: realSTMFC <realSTMFC@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] [Plastic Freight Car Builders] CNW 87232

 

I would like to find one of the following cars in order to recreate the attached photo.

https://www.intermountain-railway.com/ho/html/45808.htm

 

Owatonna Tool Company was owned by my mother’s side of the family.

 

Thanks!
--

Brian Ehni

 

 

 

I just finished a kitbash of an Intermountain AAR 1937 modified box car with their PS1 ends and roof to make a riveted PS1. I thought I’d use Kadee ladders to get the straight stile style used on the ends of the 48 blt cars. They turned out to be a pain. I didn’t drill holes for their pegs, just cut them off and acced them to the sides/ends. I noticed one had skewed again from handling. If I attempt to use them again I’ll drill a few holes. I had no issues with their bracket  grabs. Again I snipped off two of the mounting pegs and glued them into the holes already in the car sides. Another battle I fought was with the hand brake/retainer valve combo. Took me awhile to realize the part was for the AAR car and therefore the pegs wouldn’t fit in the predrilled holes in the PS1 ends...In hindsight I wish I’d used the Kadee parts...I did add a bit of styrene for the trust plate on the upper left of the sides and use a Kadee running board. I had to make the end bracket grab, I used one end of a bracket grab on the right and a piece of wire bent in an L attached to it and into a hole on the left. Painted with Tamiya Gray primer and Tru-color CNW freight car color, Speedwitch decals. I do have a complaint about that set. There’s no PS builders stencil, or new bearing pack info, both show on builders photos from RPCyc 1. Had to scrounge them for saved scraps. Lastly I airbrushed on Dullcote and went over the roof with a Dullcote brown tint mix. Modeling 48 – 50 makes the car new or nearly new.

Painting these CNW PS1 is one where guys go with their gut. It appeared to me that ‘maybe’ all the other series had black car cement ends and roofs. I do have a color photo of this series all bcr, a repaint? I’ve actually climbed up and looks at the roofs on these cars. It’s possible they were not painted, just the seam caps and rivet lines around the  perimeter were tarred and painted color color?

Clark Propst

Mason City Iowa


Re: Article: The Story of Milk Transportation By Rail

Charlie Vlk
 

Schuyler-

It doesn’t appear that the entire issue was copied, just the pages relevant to the Milk Run article.

Charlie Vlk

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Schuyler Larrabee via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2021 12:22 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Article: The Story of Milk Transportation By Rail

 

Yeah that works but (maybe obviously) I was looking to save the booklet . . .

 

Schuyler

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Douglas Harding
Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2021 1:17 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Article: The Story of Milk Transportation By Rail

 

Flip/open each page and do a screen save of each page.

 

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Schuyler Larrabee via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2021 11:58 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Article: The Story of Milk Transportation By Rail

 

I’d like to save this for future reference, but all I can save (so far) is the image of the cover.  Anybody know how to save it all?

Schuyler

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bob Chaparro via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2021 12:43 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Article: The Story of Milk Transportation By Rail

 

Article: The Story of Milk Transportation By Rail

An article by James Kindraka from the January-February issue of the Dispatch, a publication of the National Association of S Gaugers:

https://www.yumpu.com/en/document/read/54078959/the-story-of-milk-transportation-by-rail-river-raisin-models

There are photos, data and operational information in this article.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: [Plastic Freight Car Builders] CNW 87232

Charlie Vlk
 

Brian-


It appears you need to look for a 10’-6” IH AAR box car with a Youngstown door.   Need to check if the roof is a Viking or some other type.

You might get lucky and find a C&NW that only needs to have the number changed.

Here is a pdf of the banner.   Since it is on a white background I would size the boxcar on my drawing to HO and print out the banner as a separate image on white decal stock.  The banner not on the car has a slight black border to use as a guide to cut the banner to size.

It should just fit between the door and the ladder.

 

Have Fun!!

Charlie Vlk

 


1944 USRA single sheathed cars

John Barry
 

With the pending release of the Rapido SS USRA car, I did a little homework with my October 1944 ORER.  I posted a list of the 2305 cars listed there in the following blog post:  The Rapido Single Sheathed USRA Box Car


Happy Modeling


John Barry
 
ATSF North Bay Lines 
Golden Gates & Fast Freights 
Lovettsville, VA


707-490-9696 





Re: [Plastic Freight Car Builders] CNW 87232

Rich C
 

Clark, Pierre has a Kadee ladder drilling template along with the Kadee grab iron template (both sides and ends)

Rich Christie

On Tuesday, June 15, 2021, 11:42:00 AM CDT, BRIAN PAUL EHNI <bpehni@...> wrote:


I would like to find one of the following cars in order to recreate the attached photo.

https://www.intermountain-railway.com/ho/html/45808.htm

 

Owatonna Tool Company was owned by my mother’s side of the family.

 

Thanks!
--

Brian Ehni

 

 

From: <PlasticFreightCarBuiilders@PlasticFreightCarBuiilders.groups.io> on behalf of "Clark Propst via groups.io" <cepropst@...>
Reply-To: <PlasticFreightCarBuiilders@PlasticFreightCarBuiilders.groups.io>, <cepropst@q.com>
Date: Tuesday, June 15, 2021 at 11:17 AM
To: <main@PlasticFreightCarBuiilders.groups.io>, <PlasticFreightCarBuiilders@PlasticFreightCarBuiilders.groups.io>
Subject: [Plastic Freight Car Builders] CNW 87232

 

I just finished a kitbash of an Intermountain AAR 1937 modified box car with their PS1 ends and roof to make a riveted PS1. I thought I’d use Kadee ladders to get the straight stile style used on the ends of the 48 blt cars. They turned out to be a pain. I didn’t drill holes for their pegs, just cut them off and acced them to the sides/ends. I noticed one had skewed again from handling. If I attempt to use them again I’ll drill a few holes. I had no issues with their bracket  grabs. Again I snipped off two of the mounting pegs and glued them into the holes already in the car sides. Another battle I fought was with the hand brake/retainer valve combo. Took me awhile to realize the part was for the AAR car and therefore the pegs wouldn’t fit in the predrilled holes in the PS1 ends...In hindsight I wish I’d used the Kadee parts...I did add a bit of styrene for the trust plate on the upper left of the sides and use a Kadee running board. I had to make the end bracket grab, I used one end of a bracket grab on the right and a piece of wire bent in an L attached to it and into a hole on the left. Painted with Tamiya Gray primer and Tru-color CNW freight car color, Speedwitch decals. I do have a complaint about that set. There’s no PS builders stencil, or new bearing pack info, both show on builders photos from RPCyc 1. Had to scrounge them for saved scraps. Lastly I airbrushed on Dullcote and went over the roof with a Dullcote brown tint mix. Modeling 48 – 50 makes the car new or nearly new.

Painting these CNW PS1 is one where guys go with their gut. It appeared to me that ‘maybe’ all the other series had black car cement ends and roofs. I do have a color photo of this series all bcr, a repaint? I’ve actually climbed up and looks at the roofs on these cars. It’s possible they were not painted, just the seam caps and rivet lines around the  perimeter were tarred and painted color color?

Clark Propst

Mason City Iowa


Re: Article: The Story of Milk Transportation By Rail

Schuyler Larrabee
 

Yeah that works but (maybe obviously) I was looking to save the booklet . . .

 

Schuyler

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Douglas Harding
Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2021 1:17 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Article: The Story of Milk Transportation By Rail

 

Flip/open each page and do a screen save of each page.

 

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Schuyler Larrabee via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2021 11:58 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Article: The Story of Milk Transportation By Rail

 

I’d like to save this for future reference, but all I can save (so far) is the image of the cover.  Anybody know how to save it all?

Schuyler

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bob Chaparro via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2021 12:43 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Article: The Story of Milk Transportation By Rail

 

Article: The Story of Milk Transportation By Rail

An article by James Kindraka from the January-February issue of the Dispatch, a publication of the National Association of S Gaugers:

https://www.yumpu.com/en/document/read/54078959/the-story-of-milk-transportation-by-rail-river-raisin-models

There are photos, data and operational information in this article.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: Article: The Story of Milk Transportation By Rail

Charlie Vlk
 

Schuyler-

When I saved it I saved each png page individually with the name Milk Run A etc.

Charlie Vlk

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Schuyler Larrabee via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2021 11:58 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Article: The Story of Milk Transportation By Rail

 

I’d like to save this for future reference, but all I can save (so far) is the image of the cover.  Anybody know how to save it all?

Schuyler

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bob Chaparro via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2021 12:43 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Article: The Story of Milk Transportation By Rail

 

Article: The Story of Milk Transportation By Rail

An article by James Kindraka from the January-February issue of the Dispatch, a publication of the National Association of S Gaugers:

https://www.yumpu.com/en/document/read/54078959/the-story-of-milk-transportation-by-rail-river-raisin-models

There are photos, data and operational information in this article.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: Article: The Story of Milk Transportation By Rail

Douglas Harding
 

Flip/open each page and do a screen save of each page.

 

Doug Harding

www.iowacentralrr.org

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Schuyler Larrabee via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2021 11:58 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Article: The Story of Milk Transportation By Rail

 

I’d like to save this for future reference, but all I can save (so far) is the image of the cover.  Anybody know how to save it all?

Schuyler

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bob Chaparro via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2021 12:43 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Article: The Story of Milk Transportation By Rail

 

Article: The Story of Milk Transportation By Rail

An article by James Kindraka from the January-February issue of the Dispatch, a publication of the National Association of S Gaugers:

https://www.yumpu.com/en/document/read/54078959/the-story-of-milk-transportation-by-rail-river-raisin-models

There are photos, data and operational information in this article.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Rolling The Freight (1947)

Bob Chaparro
 

Rolling The Freight (1947)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sstFcKqjF2s&t=1180s

A promotional film produced by the Chicago & North Western Railroad depicting the movement of freight trains. The film covers different types of freight trains as well as the various yards, warehouses and other infrastructure required for "Rolling the Freight" via the Chicago & North Western System.

There are many freight car run-bys early in the film.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: Article: The Story of Milk Transportation By Rail

Schuyler Larrabee
 

I’d like to save this for future reference, but all I can save (so far) is the image of the cover.  Anybody know how to save it all?

Schuyler

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bob Chaparro via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2021 12:43 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Article: The Story of Milk Transportation By Rail

 

Article: The Story of Milk Transportation By Rail

An article by James Kindraka from the January-February issue of the Dispatch, a publication of the National Association of S Gaugers:

https://www.yumpu.com/en/document/read/54078959/the-story-of-milk-transportation-by-rail-river-raisin-models

There are photos, data and operational information in this article.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Article: The Story of Milk Transportation By Rail

Bob Chaparro
 

Article: The Story of Milk Transportation By Rail

An article by James Kindraka from the January-February issue of the Dispatch, a publication of the National Association of S Gaugers:

https://www.yumpu.com/en/document/read/54078959/the-story-of-milk-transportation-by-rail-river-raisin-models

There are photos, data and operational information in this article.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA

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