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Oval ribed gondola end

Allen Rueter
 

Can't say I've seen ribs in an oval before.
(https://www.flickr.com/photos/barrigerlibrary/12296990864/in/set-72157640471385906/)

Allen Rueter


Re: HO Scale Truck Document

Charles Peck
 

Being that I count myself among those who need all the help they can get,
I too am very grateful to those who put out the effort to share knowledge
with us less advanced modelers.
Thanks to Richard and those dozens of others who write and put on clinics
to help so many take another step up the ladder. And the Cocoa Beach
crew too.
Chuck Peck


Re: Photo of ATSF 108316 LG-2

 

Thanks for the info, Tim! You are positively a mine of useful information!

Thanks!
--

Brian Ehni

From: Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@comcast.net>
Reply-To: STMFC List <STMFC@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Monday, March 31, 2014 at 12:26 PM
To: STMFC List <STMFC@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Photo of ATSF 108316 LG-2







Brian

The Lg-2 class was ATSF 108305-108504, 200 cars in 1953. The cars were
long lived, lasting into the 1970's.

The dupe slide has been seen on Ebay before. I grabbed a scan from another
auction five years ago.

At 3/31/2014 08:12 AM Monday, you wrote:
Does Ebay list the car number correctly? It looks like 106316. Not 108316.
Thanks!
Brian Ehni
http://www.ebay.com/itm/111312144547









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Re: Atlas N-scale UP PS1 boxcar

Tim O'Connor
 


Martin I'll send you a shot of a brand new B-50-52 taken in 1957.

The model is mostly correct, but as far as I've been able to tell, these cars had unpainted
galvanized steel roofs with painted seam caps. The ends were black.

The cars also had 50 ton ASF A-3 roller bearing trucks.

Tim O'Connor




I cannot find the answer to this online so far. Is the recent Atlas 40-foot PS1 boxcar with 8@ door correct for Union Pacific?
 
http://www.atlasrr.com/NFreight/n40ps1boxcar2.htm
 
The Atlas picture shows a build date of 4-37, which is too old for a PS1. It looks a nice model but is expensive, so I cannot afford to buy, regret and try to resell it.
Thanks and best regards,
Martin Skrzetuszewski
(London, England)


Re: HO Scale Truck Document

Steve SANDIFER
 

I'm just grateful that Richard has given us such a helpful document.
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Re: HO Scale Truck Document

Tim O'Connor
 

Jeff Aley wrote

>> While �in production� would technically mean that the product is
>> currently being manufactured, my personal definition would include
>> �is available for purchase�. If there are not enough pre-orders
>> for the ATSF gon, will it really be produced?
>> -Jeff

Ok, this horse ain't dead yet, so let's examine it further.

Red Caboose Bettendorf T-section -- listed as Out of Production
Ulrich Vulcan L-section -- listed as Out of Production
Red Caboose ARA Type Y -- listed as Out of Production
Model Die Casting ARA w/ spring plank -- listed as Out of Production
Eastern Car Works Taylor Flexible -- both listed as Out of Production
Branchline Barber S-2 -- listed as Out of Production

So if it seems "pedantic" to you to question why the Athearn National B-1
was omitted because it is "Out of Production", please forgive my confusion.

Tim O'


Re: Photo of ATSF 108316 LG-2

Tim O'Connor
 

Brian

The Lg-2 class was ATSF 108305-108504, 200 cars in 1953. The cars were
long lived, lasting into the 1970's.

The dupe slide has been seen on Ebay before. I grabbed a scan from another
auction five years ago.


At 3/31/2014 08:12 AM Monday, you wrote:
Does Ebay list the car number correctly? It looks like 106316. Not 108316.
Thanks!
Brian Ehni

http://www.ebay.com/itm/111312144547


Re: HO Scale Truck Document

Tim O'Connor
 

Doug, the PICTURE of the ATSF gondola, which I thought was rather prominent
on the page I linked, shows a car with National B-1 trucks.

Life doesn't come with instructions.

Tim it might help if you had added a little clarity when making such posts. The page you linked is about a gon Athearn is issuing later this year, which says it features a �Bettendorf� truck. IE not the National B-1 trucks that led to this thread. Only in reading the description of each individual paint scheme offered does one learn that the ATSF version (and only the ATSF version) comes with the National B-1 trucks. Now Richard might have caught that, but those of us who do not model or purchase ATSF models may have never seen it.

Doug Harding
www.iowacentralrr.org


Re: HO Scale Truck Document

Aley, Jeff A
 

No, not deliberately thick; deliberately pedantic.  I figured that if I weren’t, I would be out of sync with the tone of this thread.

 

While “in production” would technically mean that the product is currently being manufactured, my personal definition would include “is available for purchase”.  If there are not enough pre-orders for the ATSF gon, will it really be produced?

 

Regards,

 

-Jeff

 

 

From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] On Behalf Of Tim O'Connor
Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2014 9:49 PM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: RE: [STMFC] Re: HO Scale Truck Document

 

 

Jeff

Are you just being deliberately thick?

What do you think "Due July, 2014" means -- that this item is no longer being made?

Does your definition of "in production" mean that the item has to be made in the
last 10 minutes?

Gad.

I took the bait.  I clicked the link, and up came a webpage.  I didn?t see anything on the page that was in production.
 
Regards,
 
-Jeff
 
 
From: STMFC@... [ mailto:STMFC@...] On Behalf Of Tim O'Connor
Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2014 6:42 PM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Re: HO Scale Truck Document
 
 

Dave

How fascinating. Try reading the web page that I linked to, instead.


Richard H said

>> Athearn National B-1

>> An excellent truck, but long out of production and, in my experience, almost impossible to find.

Tim O?C said

Definitely still in production.

http://www.athearn.com/Products/Default.aspx?ProdID=ATH76527

 

Tim,

My exploded parts diagram for this car lists two trucks.

I checked Horizon?s dealer website and both stock numbers are listed as in stock,

with the following descriptions.

ATH90394 HO Truck  MDC Bettendorf (2) US List $5.94 pr 

ATH90390 HO 70 ton Roller Bearing Truck, 33? wheels (2) US List $5.94 pr

 

Cheers

Dave North


Re: Atlas N-scale UP PS1 boxcar

martin skrzetuszewski <martinskrz@...>
 

Many thanks, Ben.
Best regards,
Martin
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, March 31, 2014 4:09 PM
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Atlas N-scale UP PS1 boxcar

 

Martin Skrzetuszewski asked:
"I cannot find the answer to this online so far. Is the recent Atlas 40-foot PS1 boxcar with 8@ door correct for Union Pacific?

http://www.atlasrr.com/NFreight/n40ps1boxcar2.htm

The Atlas picture shows a build date of 4-37, which is too old for a PS1. It looks a nice model but is expensive, so I cannot afford to buy, regret and try to resell it."

The answer is online at
http://www.steamerafreightcars.com/prototype/frtcars/PullmanStandard40ftPS1boxcars.xls
in the PS-1 spreadsheet compiled by Ed Hawkins.

This model is closest to UP 126000-126274.  You're correct that Atlas botched the built date - it should be 9-57.

Prototype photo:
Model Railroading, July 1988.
http://www.trainlife.com/magazines/pages/322/24007/july-1988-page-33

Ben Hom


Re: Atlas N-scale UP PS1 boxcar

Benjamin Hom
 

Martin Skrzetuszewski asked:
"I cannot find the answer to this online so far. Is the recent Atlas 40-foot PS1 boxcar with 8@ door correct for Union Pacific?

http://www.atlasrr.com/NFreight/n40ps1boxcar2.htm

The Atlas picture shows a build date of 4-37, which is too old for a PS1. It looks a nice model but is expensive, so I cannot afford to buy, regret and try to resell it."

The answer is online at
http://www.steamerafreightcars.com/prototype/frtcars/PullmanStandard40ftPS1boxcars.xls
in the PS-1 spreadsheet compiled by Ed Hawkins.

This model is closest to UP 126000-126274.  You're correct that Atlas botched the built date - it should be 9-57.

Prototype photo:
Model Railroading, July 1988.
http://www.trainlife.com/magazines/pages/322/24007/july-1988-page-33


Ben Hom


Re: HO Scale Truck Document

jon miller <atsfus@...>
 

On 3/30/2014 10:21 PM, Tony Thompson wrote:
This aspect of Athearn's business is not easy to delve into.

��� Are the molds offshore?� Does Horizon have very little control of them except for a large run?� Maybe they have extra shots made with the run and then have little chance of more until another run?

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Member SFRH&MS


Instruction for Building Tangent's Tank Car now available

Bill Welch
 

Tangent now has  a 23-page set of instructions on their website on how to assemble their little 3-compartment model. Now I know what to do with that small metal plate with the hole in the center!
I just looked at Black Cat's website but could not tell if he has issued the supplemental stenciling for the GATX version to go the the GATX decal set he already offers.

Bill Welch


Atlas N-scale UP PS1 boxcar

martin skrzetuszewski <martinskrz@...>
 

Hi All,
I cannot find the answer to this online so far. Is the recent Atlas 40-foot PS1 boxcar with 8@ door correct for Union Pacific?
 
 
The Atlas picture shows a build date of 4-37, which is too old for a PS1. It looks a nice model but is expensive, so I cannot afford to buy, regret and try to resell it.
Thanks and best regards,
Martin Skrzetuszewski
(London, England)


Re: X29 498539

cinderandeight@...
 

Bill,
    #498539 is a legitimate X29 number.  Cars in the upper 400,000 area were assigned to company service, and not listed in the ORER.  If you want a photo of a porthole window X29 in the proper paint and lettering for circa 1956 try a photo in John LaRue's collection (neg. #5133, car number 498038).  Porthole windows were not very common in X29's, or any company service box cars for that matter.  I think they probably date from conversions during the 1940's.  You could paint your car battle ship gray, or butter yellow.  The PRR switched over to yellow about 1953, but by the early 1960's was back to gray.
    Rich Burg


Re: Photo of ATSF 108316 LG-2

 

Does Ebay list the car number correctly? It looks like 106316. Not 108316.

Thanks!
--

Brian Ehni

From: <ealabhan0@live.com>
Reply-To: STMFC List <STMFC@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Saturday, March 29, 2014 at 9:37 AM
To: STMFC List <STMFC@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [STMFC] Photo of ATSF 108316 LG-2







Found a nice shot of an LG-2; from series ATSF 108305-108504 converted
1953-54 from GA-8 gons (though the slide was taken a bit after this group's
era :

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Railroad-Slide-Santa-Fe-Log-Flat-Car-108316-10-13-19
61-Silsbee-TX-ATSF-SF-train-/111312144547?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19e
ab888a3

Enjoy! Dave Sieber, Reno NV


Re: HO Scale Truck Document

North Model Railroad Supplies <nmrs@...>
 

I see the point you are making, Tim.

The ones I bought were from the first run, so that may explain the different info.

It notes the B-1 specifically with the ATSF version.

It later states Bettendorf trucks unless noted.

I’m looking forward to seeing what delivery brings.

ETA still 20th July, BTW.

Cheers

Dave North


Re: HO Scale Truck Document

Douglas Harding
 

Tim it might help if you had added a little clarity when making such posts. The page you linked is about a gon Athearn is issuing later this year, which says it features a “Bettendorf” truck. IE not the National B-1 trucks that led to this thread. Only in reading the description of each individual paint scheme offered does one learn that the ATSF version (and only the ATSF version) comes with the National B-1 trucks. Now Richard might have caught that, but those of us who do not model or purchase ATSF models may have never seen it.

 

Doug Harding

www.iowacentralrr.org

 


X29 498539

Bill Lane
 

In my quest for porthole window X29 that were tool or other MOW cars I bought a photo of X29 498539 from Bob’s photos this weekend. The photo date was August 1 1970 and has a very simple late PRR scheme – just PRR and the car number in large letters. Thinking I could back date imagineer it to a 1956 scheme, now I see 498539 was not a X29 series in the 1955 ORER.

 

So I am not any farther along in trying to get photos of real X29 cars that had porthole windows.

 

Thank You,
Bill Lane

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Re: HO Scale Truck Document

Tim O'Connor
 


Thank you, Tony. I thought such an idea would occur to anyone by now.

Obviously not.

Those Athearn National B-1 trucks were first produced with the release
of their 65'6" AAR gondolas, especially because they wanted to have them
for the Santa Fe version of those cars. And after the cars were released,
they made some number of trucks available for sale. Since they are making
more cars, I thought it likely that means they either have, or are making,
more trucks.

Maybe not.

By the way, that Atlas "National C-1" - in my opinion - is actually a very
poorly executed ASF A-3 sideframe, because of the large shelf underneath the
spring pack. That's why it was "news" to me, because I'd replaced them on my
cars with other, better trucks, and threw the Atlas trucks into a spare
parts bin.

Tim O'Connor




This aspect of Athearn's business is not easy to delve into. They have a parts list on line, but as that very list concedes (in small print, roughly in these words), if you don't find it in the list, contact us directly, as not all parts are shown in the web listing. That's how I found the MDC 100-ton truck was available, by direct email to Athearn. So I would warn against assuming that if you don't find it easily, it must not exist.

Tony Thompson 

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