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Re: Tichy open grid roof walks

Tony Thompson
 

Tony...Is Canopy Glue a generic name...Is there one brand better than an other for our uses....Thanks...Larry Mennie

       Yes, that's the generic name. I wrote about this in a blog post, which covers brands. If interested, you can see it at:


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Re: model paint in aerosol cans

Rod Miller
 

On 9/7/13 1:49 PM, richtownsend@netscape.net wrote:

P-B-L makes the Star Brand paints, but I don't think they are available in aerosol cans.

Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, Oregon
My favorite aerosol paint is SEM Trim Black.

<http://www.semproducts.com/product-catalog/specialty-products/trim-paint/trim-black/>

The aerosol can is SO much simpler than setting up
and cleaning the air brush, especially for that
quick job on a loco or freight car part that is
separated from the model. Dries to the touch in
10 min, re-coat, allow 48 hrs for complete cure.
Goes on thick so watch the build-up; most of the
coat will evaporate, leaving a thin dry coat.

Widely available. Get it from Amazon or your local
automotive paint supplier.

I use it (quart can and air brush) to paint steam
engines. Dries to a nice satin (to my eye) finish.

Part number for the aerosol can is 39143, for the
1 quart container 39144. I see from their web site
that they now offer gloss and satin (how the latter
compares to the "satin" finish of the above two
number is unknown).

The web site doesn't show them, I saw other colors
at the store I went to in San Carlos, CA. Mostly
grayish colors. Don't know if they offer any reds,
but I wouldn't attempt painting a complete model
with an aerosol can, also many apparently do (using
other brand paints).

Rod
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Custom 2-rail O Scale Models: Drives, | O Scale West / S West
Repairs, Steam Loco Building, More | 2014 Meet is Feb 6 - 8
http://www.rodmiller.com | http://www.oscalewest.com


Re: model paint in aerosol cans

Jack Mullen
 

Ed,
Star Line paint is made by/for and sold by P-B-L. www.p-b-l.com Good stuff.
Jack Mullen

Ed Mines wrote:

Thanks for your reply. Where can I get them? Who's the manufacturer?
Ed,
Try your friends at Star Brand Paints. You are looking for Sunburnt >> BCR & Weathered Black
Tom VanWormer
And concerning Neo, now it seems that when I do a REPLY, Yahoo doesn't copy the previous text into the response box as it used to. Oh well, can do a cut-paste, as I did above.
Jack


Re: Tichy open grid roof walks

mrprksr <mrprksr@...>
 

Tony...Is Canopy Glue a generic name...Is there one brand better than an other for our uses....Thanks...Larry Mennie


From: Tony Thompson
To: STMFC@...
Sent: Saturday, September 7, 2013 6:03 PM
Subject: [STMFC] Re: Tichy open grid roof walks

 
       Use Canopy Glue! No problems with differential expansion. Done it for years with both running boards and diesel grilles.

Tony Thompson             Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705         www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, tony@...
Publishers of books on railroad history







Re: Tichy open grid roof walks

mopacfirst
 

I bought one a couple years ago, never installed it. It's a little thick, and the grid may be too big (not enough bars so the holes are bigger than prototype). But, it's styrene so should mount easier than the metal ones.

Don't know if you can sand the Tichy one so it's thinner. That might be an idea worth trying. I'm not home so can't look at it in person. No doubt there would no difficulty installing wire corner grabs on it.

I've been quite happy with the Branchline ones, which are closer to scale in terms of number of bars but of course not open, except the very ends. And I use a lot of the Kadee ones, but for some reason they like to curl up at the ends.

So I'd recommend trying one and letting us know how it looks.

Ron Merrick


Re: Tichy open grid roof walks

Tony Thompson
 

       Use Canopy Glue! No problems with differential expansion. Done it for years with both running boards and diesel grilles.

Tony Thompson             Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705         www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, tony@...
Publishers of books on railroad history





Re: Tichy open grid roof walks

Pierre <pierre.oliver@...>
 

True but they're lumpy and oversized.
Pierre Oliver


NYC Boxcar question

Douglas Harding
 

Had someone ask me if I knew any details about this photo: Ebay item 181209034658

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-postcard-RPPC-M-STL-Railroad-wreck-Minnesota-1911-/181209034658?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2a30e66fa2

 

It shows a wreck labeled “M&SL Wreck” Minnesota 1911, but I don’t think the date is correct. Two NYC boxcars, both from the 215*** series, are on the track, appear to be set up to receive salvage from the wreck. And it appears someone has penciled in a name or note pointing to the fellow standing on the platform. I can make out the caboose cupola in the background. The NYC cars are double sheath wood cars with steel ends. I don’t believe they are USRA DS boxcars, doesn’t have the correct metal braces on the sides. From Terry’s website http://www.canadasouthern.com/caso/NYC-MODELS-FREIGHT2.htm I determined the following: The NYC herald was in use from 1905 to 1935. NYC 215524 was built by WSC&F in 1904 as a 36’ wood boxcar with wood underframe. NYC 215000-215999, ex NYC&HR cars 94000-94999. Lettered for NYC reporting marks 1916-1935. Which puts the photo taken sometime after 1916. They were 2448 cu ft, 40 ton, 6’ door.

 

The wrecked cars are wood sided, wood ends. The one with the people on it has a partial end reporting mark slightly visible: looks like  I C 1704** or 1784** the lettering is split by a post. I can see rivets or bolt heads down the corner and a steel strap about the middle of the car side, like a Fowler boxcar, but not sure about the roof, looks like it might be a Murphy roof.

 

The M&StL purchased 500 Fowler Clones in 1916, 18000-18999. But I don’t have information as to the type of roof they had. They also purchased 1000 40’ wood DS Murphy AM roof cars in 1917, 19000-20999.

 

Can anyone offer any further information about the cars?

 

Doug Harding

www.iowacentralrr.org

 


Re: model paint in aerosol cans

Richard Townsend
 

P-B-L makes the Star Brand paints, but I don't think they are available in aerosol cans.
Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, Oregon


Re: model paint in aerosol cans

ed_mines
 

Thanks for your reply. Where can I get them? Who's the manufacturer? 


--- In STMFC@..., <stmfc@...> wrote:

Ed,
Try your friends at Star Brand Paints.  You are looking for Sunburnt BCR & Weathered Black
Tom VanWormer

ed_mines@... wrote:
 

Anyone still make these, weathered black & box car red?



Re: Tichy open grid roof walks

ed_mines
 

They are a little bit difficult to attach & paint, they may detach/bend due to differences in thermal expansion.

 

Plastic ones can be solvent welded & are a lot cheaper. 


--- In STMFC@..., <stmfc@...> wrote:

What's bad about etched running boards?
Pierre Oliver


Re: Bowser PRR H30

SUVCWORR@...
 

In the 1950 list of PRR trucks PRR tracing C422800-E  the following were used on the H30

2E-F2A  Crown with Andrews steel cast frame  5'10 axle spacing C-E spring pack

2E-F10 double truss s.c. 5'8 C-E spring pack

2E-F11 National s.c. 5'6 C-5E spring pack

2E-F12 Young s.c. 5'8 C-5E springs

2E-F14 National s.c. 5'6 C-5E springs

2E-F15 Young s.c. 5'8 C-5E springs

2E-F22 ASF A-3 ride control 5'8 C spring pack

The ASF A-3 is accurate

For more information on PRR trucks  see http://prr.railfan.net/freight/PRRFreightCarTrucks.html


Rich Orr





-----Original Message-----
From: mumpseee
To: STMFC
Sent: Sat, Sep 7, 2013 1:01 pm
Subject: [STMFC] Bowser PRR H30

Group,

Just received the new Bowser PRR H30 cars.  Very nice.  Will leave accuracy
comments to those who know although I did peruse TKM 8 since I see what appears
to be an issue.  The model is 254266 showing New 5-35 in the CK scheme.  I model
October, 1954 and will do the appropriate reweigh date.  The trucks are ASF A-3.
These would not have been the original trucks from what I can tell.  Anybody
know what trucks should be under this car?  Thanks.

Eric Mumper
eric.mumper@...





Oh PLEASE ~ Phoney RPM Meet

Greg Martin
 

All,
 
Um, excuse me but I am not sure how the term "phoney" and this event ties together, perhaps just the wrong choice of the word.
 
I didn't visit the website nor did I see it advertised prior on any of the list I subscribe to but perhaps I missed it as it is so far from Oregon.
 
In my most humble opinion any RPM ~ PRM ~ PM meet is valid regardless of size. There are many small meets that wished they had more attendance; however, this is a slight twist, less room so therefore limited in capacity.
 
Nice spin perhaps we some of the older events should try the same, raise the price, add a bit to the room cost and  limit the registration and no walk-in traffic or locals admitted without ~ a last minute cancellations ~ sold at market entry pricing...
 
This is all very silly. I admire the concept because of its limitation, I say BULLY attend and if you can't get in all the more reason to invent an excuse for another. I accept the limitations and I am sure they are dealing with it as best they can... Kinda like SHAKE N TAKE what do they say, "some of the people all of the time..."
 
Can we get back to modeling as it applies to the prototype please and save the band width?
 
Greg Martin
 
Eventually all things merge into one and a river runs through it.
Norman Maclean
 
 


Re: model paint in aerosol cans

Tom Vanwormer
 

Ed,
Try your friends at Star Brand Paints.  You are looking for Sunburnt BCR & Weathered Black
Tom VanWormer

ed_mines@... wrote:

 

Anyone still make these, weathered black & box car red?



Re: Tichy open grid roof walks

Pierre <pierre.oliver@...>
 

What's bad about etched running boards?
Pierre Oliver


model paint in aerosol cans

ed_mines
 

Anyone still make these, weathered black & box car red?


24 inch grab irons/Proto 2000 gon

ed_mines
 

Is this a good fit?


Tichy open grid roof walks

ed_mines
 

Anyone care to make a comment? Better/worse than etched roof walks?


Devcon 2-Ton Epoxy

Bill Welch
 

Friends:

I think someone on the list requested more precise info the the 2-ton epoxy. Here goes.

I made it a point to go to my nearest Ace Hardware today after confirming they had some of the Devcon 2-Ton Epoxy and purchased the 3 dispensers they had on the rack for $4.49 each. It is actually called Devcon Home 2-Ton Epoxy 2500 psi Strength. The Net Volume is .84 fluid ounces or 25 ML for each. On the reverse side of the cardboard where the instructions in the upper right hand corner is the number 31345 which presumably is the Item Number. I confirmed this by going to the website www.devconhome.com and typing  31345 into the search window. Four products appear when I did this, all of the using the "2-Ton" term and are different sizes or in one case I think a slightly different formulation. It is marketed by ITW Consumer in Riviera, FL. I asked the person at the Ace  register if it was something they will continue to stock and she said they never know until the place their next order.

To repeat myself, I have found this product to be foolproof, which has not always been my experience with the two-part epoxies. It has a working time of about 30 minutes and sets up in 8-12 hours. I am always skeptical about anything labeled "Quick" except for ACC which is a different animal altogether. One example of the way I have used it--excuse the non freight car reference--is to get a secure attachment of the etched front steps to the Pilot on the Highliner F units which IMO is a vulnerable location and needs a strong bond. Full disclosure: I also used this part on the InterMountain F units w/epoxy attachment.

Anyway, I hope this helps those interested in this product.

Bill Welch
2225 Nursery Road; #20-104
Clearwater, FL 33764-7622
727.470.9930



Bowser PRR H30

Eric Mumper
 

Group,

Just received the new Bowser PRR H30 cars. Very nice. Will leave accuracy comments to those who know although I did peruse TKM 8 since I see what appears to be an issue. The model is 254266 showing New 5-35 in the CK scheme. I model October, 1954 and will do the appropriate reweigh date. The trucks are ASF A-3. These would not have been the original trucks from what I can tell. Anybody know what trucks should be under this car? Thanks.

Eric Mumper
eric.mumper@gmail.com

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