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Re: LA's Totally AWESOME

Greg Martin
 

Reginald,
 
It is the one that looks yellow... Kinda like, well you know... Tall bottle with Red writing. Sorry I should have been more specific.
 
Greg Martin


-----Original Message-----
From: Reginald Bowman
To: stmfc
Sent: Fri, Sep 6, 2013 8:54 am
Subject: [STMFC] LA's Totally AWESOME

 
Help?
 
Ok, so I go to Dollar Tree to get some of this stuff and find out they have about six different kinds on the shelves.  Can anyone be a little more specific regarding exactly what the label says and what kind of container (how many oz's, etc) it is in?
 
Thanks in advance,
 
Reginald Bowman


Re: Phoney RPM Meet

Tony Thompson
 

Bob DeMoss wrote:

Tony.
I received this "E" mail, and I don't know what you are talking about, regarding the RPM.  Please enlighted me.
Bob DeMoss
L.A. Division Director. 

    Read the email from Don Valentine.

Tony Thompson             Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705         www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, tony@...
Publishers of books on railroad history





Re: Phoney RPM Meet

Bob DeMoss
 

Tony.

I received this "E" mail, and I don't know what you are talking about, regarding the RPM.  Please enlighted me.

Bob DeMoss
L.A. Division Director.
 
 

On 09/06/13, Tony Thompson wrote:
 
 

On Sep 6, 2013, at 1:01 AM, Don wrote:
 

If I had control of the RPM title believe me this group would NEVER be allowed to use it. 


     I understand Don's frustration with the odd arrangement he describes, but in fact NO ONE "has control" of the RPM title. This is ordinarily not a problem, but situations like this one raise the ugly possibility of misuse.

Tony Thompson             Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705         www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, tony@...
Publishers of books on railroad history





Re: Phoney RPM Meet

Tim O'Connor
 

As my daughters would say, "meh"

Just one man's opinion of their snotty attitude, Don Valentine


Re: Phoney RPM Meet

Tony Thompson
 

On Sep 6, 2013, at 1:01 AM, Don wrote:
 

If I had control of the RPM title believe me this group would NEVER be allowed to use it. 


     I understand Don's frustration with the odd arrangement he describes, but in fact NO ONE "has control" of the RPM title. This is ordinarily not a problem, but situations like this one raise the ugly possibility of misuse.

Tony Thompson             Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705         www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, tony@...
Publishers of books on railroad history





1920s national freight car fleet data

Eric Hansmann
 

I am searching for recapitulation of car equipment data that covers all US railroads (or just Class One operations)  for specific years through the 1920s and a few years in the 1930s. I am familiar with these reports appearing under individual railroads ORER pages, but my 1925 and 1926 editions do not offer an overall summary. I am searching for national fleet data. 


Where can these details be found? 


Eric Hansmann

El Paso, TX


Time Freight, Red Ball Freight, Penalty

Richard Townsend
 

I have three freight car placard cards whose use I am trying to understand.  All are from the Colorado & Southern.  I am hoping that someone who is knowledgeable on early 1900's freight train handling might be able to help me out.  And I am assuming that the terminology used on the cards was common enough that it was not C&S-specific.
 
The first is a diamond-shaped card, orange on the top half and buff on the bottom.  The top half says "TIME FREIGHT."  The bottom half has spaces for reporting marks, contents, and shipping and destination stations.  It says it "must have quick dispatch and preference over other cars not likewise carded."  The receiving agent is to return the card "by first passenger train to the General Freight Agent."
 
The second is rectangular, with a solid red circle in the center.  It says "RED BALL FREIGHT"  and "This car must be kept in train ____" and "This car must not be delayed except on account of being in bad order."
 
The third is a solid orange rectangle.  It says "PENALTY" and then has a blank for filling in "Home Route."
 
My fundamental question is how would these cards have been used?  What would have been the difference between a time freight and a red ball freight?  Was the "PENALTY" card used to say "send us our car back or you will pay?"

Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, Oregon


Re: An alternative body filler putty

tjcataldo
 

hello when its come to body putty go the auto body supply store in your town
buy a can ever coat its a two part putty one part putty other is the harder
its about 25.00 dollar and can and that will still you die

       tom cataldo


On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 6:36 AM, Brian <cornbeltroute@...> wrote:
 

I googled "Devcon 2-Ton white epoxy" and, of course, got a ton of hits. If someone has this epoxy nearby, would you please post the Devcon part number?

Thanks much,

Brian Chapman
Evansdale, Iowa




--
Thomas  j Cataldo


Re: An alternative body filler putty

Andy Carlson
 

Devcon 2-ton white epoxy had been sold in hardware stores for decades. A few years ago, the squeeze tube variety stopped being marketed, though a twin syringe version, though more expensive, was still available. Now that product also has not been available for awhile at the sources that I have found them in the past. Fortunately, Ace Hardware had a squeeze tube "White 2-ton" available in the squeeze tube, though even these are not found at my local Ace.

The 2-ton epoxies as found on a google search from Amazon are not useful for modeling purposes. The clear stuff is especially bad, no matter what style of container or size offered. The old "WHITE 2-Ton" epoxy was a ceramic filled product and the closest epoxy I have found mimicking the qualities I have enjoyed for decades is Ace Marine White epoxy. JB-Weld is also a good alternative, and is a bit easier on drill bits then White 2-ton. I prefer white for filling purposes, though I guess I will accept the near-black color in the future.

With the older White 2-ton I mixed the two components in an approximate 55-45 ratio of the whiter component in excess of the cream hardener component. This gave good consistency after curing, with no rubbery or soft parts. Never use more hardener than the white component, even in small amounts!

I have not yet tried thinning JB-Weld with isopropyl alcohol, though the Devcon and Ace Marine epoxies thin very well with the ISP alcohol, the reduced viscosity enables less work in pouring into mold cavities.
-Andy Carlson
Ojai CA



From: Andy Carlson
To: Steam Era
Sent: Wednesday, September 4, 2013 8:32 AM
Subject: An alternative body filler putty

I was introduced years ago by a close friend to the very useful epoxy product "2-Ton white epoxy" by Devcon. Besides being super user-friendly for filling small molds for castings, it made a great surfacing putty for filling blemishes on model freight cars in that it did not shrink, and had a very smooth surface after sanding. I liked that the hardness of the cured product was similar to styrene and resin, which reduced the cupping which occurs when too soft filler material is sanded down below adjoining surfaces.

All was well until about 5 years ago when Ace Hardware no longer offered the Devcon 2-ton. I tried some Ace brand of "Marine" epoxy, which worked well enough, but that too is sometimes hard to find. What would be good was to have a product which has been around for a long time, will be around for some time to come, and be available everywhere. 

"J-B Weld" epoxy-- tried some found at hardware and auto part stores and found it to be great for both casting and general surfacing.

If anyone reading this post would be interested in trying out some small parts casting, try making a simple single-use mold made by pressing the part desired for copying into some modeling clay. Carefully extract the part and fill the resulting cavity with the J-B Weld using a flat toothpick as a trowel and see if the magic of casting can be as fun as others have discovered. Isopropyl alcohol works well both as a thinning agent (to lower the viscosity) and general cleanup.
-Andy Carlson
Ojai CA




Re: Check out Modelling tips for resin kits

Dennis Storzek
 

 



--- In STMFC@..., <stmfc@...> wrote:

Wait a minute, brake fluid attacks rubber? Man we are in it deep as the brake lines on most vehicles, including the steam era ones, are rubber.

Yeah, but since the advent of synthetics, "rubber" can have many different compositions. The impact modifier in ABS  is Butadiene, while something different is commonly used in H.I.P.S., High Impact Poly Styrene. Whatever, it's a well documented fact that brake fluid will cause Kato body moldings to swell and crack. The real trick is guessing which other manufacturer's parts are ABS, or B.S, Butadien modified Styrene.

The common polyurethane used in resin kits is a totally different chemistry, but little practical experience has been reported with stripping paint off it, since people don't usually strip resin kits as a matter of course.

Beware. Test first on some flash from the kit, or an extra part.

Dennis



Re: Check out Modelling tips for resin kits

Tim O'Connor
 

Chuck

Well, technically it's butadiene in ABS, while there is no natural
"rubber" (latex) in brake hoses -- they are all synthetic polymers.
Anyway, brake fluid attacks ABS.

Tim


At 9/6/2013 01:15 PM Friday, you wrote:


Wait a minute, brake fluid attacks rubber? Man we are in it deep as the brake lines on most vehicles, including the steam era ones, are rubber.
 
Chuck Hladik
In a message dated 9/6/2013 12:30:21 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, timboconnor@... writes:
 


Brake fluid attacks ABS -- Kato uses ABS. It won't affect ordinary polystyrene
which contains no "rubber".

>I've had good success with 2 different products;
>Brake fluid.
>I've yet to have brake fluid ruin a plastic model. I have found though that modern brake fluid has a shelf life for this usage.
>Scalecoat paint and decal remover.
>Great stuff! It works well on pad printed lettering and home applied paint jobs.
>
>Pierre Oliver


Re: outstanding article on freight cars

Tom Madden
 

There's a color photo of two of the Barrett granulated slate tank/hoppers on the last page of the Gerard Bernet soft-cover book, Memories of Eastern Pennsylvania Railroading. The caption says 1959, and it's somewhere in PRR electrified territory, in train behind a P5a motor and in front of two PRR hoppers. I guess that means Bruce will need a couple...
 
Agree with Tony - it's a great article.
 
Tom Madden


Re: Check out Modelling tips for resin kits

Charles Hladik
 

Wait a minute, brake fluid attacks rubber? Man we are in it deep as the brake lines on most vehicles, including the steam era ones, are rubber.
 
Chuck Hladik

In a message dated 9/6/2013 12:30:21 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, timboconnor@... writes:
 


Brake fluid attacks ABS -- Kato uses ABS. It won't affect ordinary polystyrene
which contains no "rubber".

>I've had good success with 2 different products;
>Brake fluid.
>I've yet to have brake fluid ruin a plastic model. I have found though that modern brake fluid has a shelf life for this usage.
>Scalecoat paint and decal remover.
>Great stuff! It works well on pad printed lettering and home applied paint jobs.
>
>Pierre Oliver


Re: Check out Modelling tips for resin kits

Tim O'Connor
 

Brake fluid attacks ABS -- Kato uses ABS. It won't affect ordinary polystyrene
which contains no "rubber".

I've had good success with 2 different products;
Brake fluid.
I've yet to have brake fluid ruin a plastic model. I have found though that modern brake fluid has a shelf life for this usage.
Scalecoat paint and decal remover.
Great stuff! It works well on pad printed lettering and home applied paint jobs.

Pierre Oliver


Re: An alternative body filler putty

SUVCWORR@...
 


It is available on Amazon in sizes ranging from 1/2 ounce tubes to 4.5 ounce bottles.

Rich Orr

-----Original Message-----
From: Brian
To: STMFC
Sent: Fri, Sep 6, 2013 9:36 am
Subject: [STMFC] Re: An alternative body filler putty

I googled "Devcon 2-Ton white epoxy" and, of course, got a ton of hits. If
someone has this epoxy nearby, would you please post the Devcon part number?

Thanks much,

Brian Chapman
Evansdale, Iowa



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LA's Totally AWESOME

Reginald Bowman
 

Help?
 
Ok, so I go to Dollar Tree to get some of this stuff and find out they have about six different kinds on the shelves.  Can anyone be a little more specific regarding exactly what the label says and what kind of container (how many oz's, etc) it is in?
 
Thanks in advance,
 
Reginald Bowman


P&N Box Car Sale by GC&L Photo Posted

ALLEN STANLEY
 

HI All,

 

Just posted a Piedmont & Northern box car photo that was on a Georgia Car & Loco sales brochure. For those that may not be aware GC&L was one of the largest used railroad equipment dealers in the country. If you look at the photo you will see they have erased the P&N name from the car side as well as from the circle in the logo. I have scanned many of their records and find this is common practice for them. Interesting box car I thought the group might enjoy.

 

Allen Stanley

Greer, SC


Re: An alternative body filler putty

Brian <cornbeltroute@...>
 

I googled "Devcon 2-Ton white epoxy" and, of course, got a ton of hits. If someone has this epoxy nearby, would you please post the Devcon part number?

Thanks much,

Brian Chapman
Evansdale, Iowa


Re: outstanding article on freight cars

Don <riverman_vt@...>
 

----- Original Message -----
From: Tony Thompson
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2013 2:13 PM
Subject: [STMFC] outstanding article on freight cars


I've sent the following message to Railroad Model Craftsman:

Congratulations to author Mike Evans and to editor Chris D'Amato
for the outstanding article on the tank car to covered hopper
conversion in the September issue. It is clearly described,
beautifully illustrated, and continues the RMC tradition of serious
articles on freight car modeling. Great stuff! I'm looking forward to
seeing more of it.
Agreed all around, Tony. I rarely by model magazines anymore
because so much of what they offer is repititious, especially anything coming out of Kalmbach. But the latest RMC was purchased for the very reason you point out. RMC has done a far better job over the
years of presenting such useful material. Is this not the same car type that ws discussed briefly here a month or so ago as well? With
Ted Culotta now find his circumstances improving to the point that he is re-introducing Speedwitch Media we can hope that RMC, and the rest of us, will also be able to benefit from his "Essential Freight Car" articles once again as well.

Cordially, Don Valentine


Re: Phoney RPM Meet

Don <riverman_vt@...>
 

By total accident rather late Wed. evening it was found that there is a new "Mid-Atlantic RPM Meet" being held on 13 & 14 Sept. just over an hour away from where I live when here in Virginia and not home in Vermont. Thus Thur. morning I attempted to learn more about it. First it was found that the website for it takes foorreevver to open but finally did so while I was reading about it on other than the "official" website. Once it did open I got the surprise of my life to find that the snobs that run it really do not have there act together. I have run two fall meets for the Northeastern Region of the NMRA going back as early as 1974 and never had more than two other people working with me to do it. At each we either equalled or exceeded the number of people who attended the Saturday evening banquet with figures in the 250 range.

Since that time I have put together three smaller meetings in Vermont for those of us with specific interests in milk cars and milk trains. These meets have been attended by from 25 to 40 people and seem to have been well enjoyed by those present. I have also attended Dave Owens Collinsville, CT RPM meet whenever possible and have presented clinics there. ALL of these events welcomed anyone who wished to attend. NOT SO the new Mid-Atlantic RPM meet!!!! The organizers limited attendance to themselves and their buddies, allowing only 40 people to attend with no admittance at the door and stating that no one would be allowed in who had not preregistered. What a bunch of snobs! If I had control of the RPM title believe me this group would NEVER be allowed to use it. I can't imagine any of the fine folks I have met at RPM meets in Napierville or Collinsville wanting to be associated with what is supposed to take place in Virginia on the 13th and 14th. Having met a number of great fellow modelers from all over the US and Canada in my years in this hobby, many of whom hae become close friends, I cannot think of a single event such as an RPM or NMRA or SIG meeting that did not welcome anyone who could attend. It appears the clowns responsible for this phoney RPM meet feel they are too good to associate with regular modelers. Is any one interested in a REAL RPM meet at that great Mid-Atlantic crossroads in Frederick, MD in the spring? Bet I can put together a far better meet there in a few months time than these self important snobs can ever arrange.

Just one man's opinion of their snotty attitude, Don Valentine

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