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New Products from Yarmouth Model Works

Pierre Oliver <pierre.oliver@...>
 

Group,
Visit my weblog; http://elgincarshops.blogspot.ca/2013/09/well-intention-is.html
to see the 2 new products I'm expecting to have ready for the Prototype meet in Naperville/Lisle next month.
Thanks

--
Pierre Oliver
www.elgincarshops.com
www.yarmouthmodelworks.com


Re: 36' Fowler/Dominion cars and "almosts"...

Bill Welch
 

The L&N cars on your list are double-sheathed. 


Bill Welch



---In stmfc@..., <timboconnor@...> wrote:


New Haven had at least a couple in the late 50's early 60's but
they were in company service -- NH W1405, NH T80.

Tim O'




The Soo Line (found alphabetized in steam era equipment registers under M) had one group of cars nearly identical to the Canadian cars, built in 1912. This was 750 cars, numbered 12800 - 14298, even numbers only. They were built with outside metal roofs having some sort of round seam caps, but in later years had roofs with twelve flat rectangular seam caps, counting those at the ends of the roof. Original trucks had Bettendorf T section sideframes, later changed to Andrews. It sounds like the only real difference is the door, the Soo cars were built with top supported wood doors which they retained throughout their entire lives. The January 1958 ORER shows 19 cars remaining; all were retired by January 1961

 


---In STMFC@..., <stmfc@...> wrote:

We have had another outbreak of Fowlerishness, or a bird of a slightly different feather, in the dominion of TT scale.

I am wondering if anyone can say whether a CPR Dominion 36' boxcar would be near enough to any of the cars pinpointed as being 36' s/s cars below?

The Dominion casting has 12 crosswise roof ribs, the first and last ribs flush with each end, and what looks to be a 5-5-5 steel door (I assume replacing a wood original.)

Aside from the ITC cars, which I believe existed in interchange service as late as 1961, were there other US owners of 36' cars who had them in interchange service through to the late 50s?

From what I can work out, 36' cars in the US were one of those things that were very common in one decade, ie, 1942 but almost gone a decade later.

I am told the NYSW ones made it to 1951.

I am hoping someone might be able to offer some advice on the characteristics (door type, roof, if possible number of ribs) on some of these 36' s/s cars.


regards, Benjamin



> Central Railroad Company of Pennsylvania 14000-14499 (Fowler-like,
> NEB&W web site)

> > BAR 9000-9699*, 9800-10399

> > New York, Susquehanna & Western 1500-1563*
> > Piedmont & Northern 12000-12074*

> > BAR 8100-8599, 8700-8799
> > CNJ 14000-14499 (drawing seems to suggest it)

> > CV 70731-71730, 71800-72049
> > DSS&A 11067-11569
> > NC&StL 24500-24599
> > SOO 28312+28456, 106600-107908, 108056-109908
> > M&StL 26000-26400
> > WAB 78000-78199 (read about these, are they 36' or 40'?)

> > B&M 12138-12258, 12301-12392, 64682-68247, 68317, 68333-68390

> > C&EI 37002-37748, 635-699

> > GM&O 43000-43299 (or were these SU cars?)

> > NKP 97000-97999

> CGW 27000-27998 (SS, AC&F photo of 27904, lot 7504)
> Central Railroad Company of Pennsylvania 14000-14499 (Fowler-like,
> NEB&W web site)>
> ERIE 80995, 85000-85999 (SS or Fowler-like, MM, Apr. 1986)
>
> IC 11000-11344 (SS, 1927 IC equipment list – personal communication
> from Ray Breyer)
> ITC 8000-8199 (Fowler or Fowler-like, NEB&W web site)
> Chicago South Shore & South Bend R.R., 1501-1505 (Fowler or Fowler-
> like, NEB&W web site)

> NKP 97000-97999 (Former TStL&W 7000-7999, Fowler, MM, Apr. 1986)
> Pittsburg, Shawmut and Northern 9900-9949 (SS, personal communication from Ray Breyer)
> SB&M 1254-2050 (SS, NEB&W web site)
> WABASH 75000-77199 (SS 36' 5", Jan. 1938 ORER, p. 444, AC&F photos of 75699 and 76200, lots 6615 and 8063)
> WABASH 77200-78199 (SS 36' 5", Jan. 1938 ORER, p. 444)


Re: The bicycle is nice, but how about a steam era freight car for our Neo site picture

Bruce Smith
 

Dennis,

Not sure you understand how this works.  As group owner, when you upload a cover photo (and I note that you cannot just get one from the group web page but it has to be on your hard drive) there is an option to "drag to reposition".  When you do that, the location of the viewed part of the photo remains the same when you reopen it.

Regards
Bruce Smith
Auburn, AL


From: STMFC@... [STMFC@...] on behalf of destorzek@... [destorzek@...]
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2013 12:58 PM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: RE: Re: [STMFC] RE: The bicycle is nice, but how about a steam era freight car for our Neo site picture



Really? You might be able to scroll up and down to see the top and bottom of the image, but the rest of us can't, so it just looks like a poorly cropped partial photo. The image used needs to be cropped to the correct aspect ratio; Whahoo  will then re-size it to fit the page.


Dennis



---In STMFC@..., wrote:

Dennis when you upload the photo the web site lets you center it and
only then does it get cropped. I did this with one of Gene Deimling's
photos for the steamloco group and it turned out nicely IMO.

Tim O'



>I agree, but the format for the "cover photo" is not a common size, although with its horizontal format, it does lend itself nicely to photos of railroad equipment. When I went looking through my image files for something to use on the SooLineHistory page, the only thing I found that would crop nicely to fit the space was a builder's photo of a three unit set of F-3's.
>
>
>How about everyone looking through their personal photos for an image that works at a 5:1 aspect ratio and offer it to Mike?
>
>
>Dennis Storzek
>
>
>---In STMFC@..., <stmfc@...> wrote:
>
>First thing our B&O moderator did to mollify this Neo affliction was replace it with a nice EM-1 (steam era and hauled a lot of freight cars) this morning. Forget this message if you have not yet experienced this superbug. At least a more appropriate picture would alleviate some of the discomfort.
>
>Dave Snyder
>Louisville, Ky.



Re: 36' Fowler/Dominion cars and "almosts"...

Tim O'Connor
 


New Haven had at least a couple in the late 50's early 60's but
they were in company service -- NH W1405, NH T80.

Tim O'




The Soo Line (found alphabetized in steam era equipment registers under M) had one group of cars nearly identical to the Canadian cars, built in 1912. This was 750 cars, numbered 12800 - 14298, even numbers only. They were built with outside metal roofs having some sort of round seam caps, but in later years had roofs with twelve flat rectangular seam caps, counting those at the ends of the roof. Original trucks had Bettendorf T section sideframes, later changed to Andrews. It sounds like the only real difference is the door, the Soo cars were built with top supported wood doors which they retained throughout their entire lives. The January 1958 ORER shows 19 cars remaining; all were retired by January 1961

 


---In STMFC@..., wrote:

We have had another outbreak of Fowlerishness, or a bird of a slightly different feather, in the dominion of TT scale.

I am wondering if anyone can say whether a CPR Dominion 36' boxcar would be near enough to any of the cars pinpointed as being 36' s/s cars below?

The Dominion casting has 12 crosswise roof ribs, the first and last ribs flush with each end, and what looks to be a 5-5-5 steel door (I assume replacing a wood original.)

Aside from the ITC cars, which I believe existed in interchange service as late as 1961, were there other US owners of 36' cars who had them in interchange service through to the late 50s?

From what I can work out, 36' cars in the US were one of those things that were very common in one decade, ie, 1942 but almost gone a decade later.

I am told the NYSW ones made it to 1951.

I am hoping someone might be able to offer some advice on the characteristics (door type, roof, if possible number of ribs) on some of these 36' s/s cars.


regards, Benjamin



> Central Railroad Company of Pennsylvania 14000-14499 (Fowler-like,
> NEB&W web site)

> > BAR 9000-9699*, 9800-10399

> > New York, Susquehanna & Western 1500-1563*
> > Piedmont & Northern 12000-12074*

> > BAR 8100-8599, 8700-8799
> > CNJ 14000-14499 (drawing seems to suggest it)

> > CV 70731-71730, 71800-72049
> > DSS&A 11067-11569
> > NC&StL 24500-24599
> > SOO 28312+28456, 106600-107908, 108056-109908
> > M&StL 26000-26400
> > WAB 78000-78199 (read about these, are they 36' or 40'?)

> > B&M 12138-12258, 12301-12392, 64682-68247, 68317, 68333-68390

> > C&EI 37002-37748, 635-699

> > GM&O 43000-43299 (or were these SU cars?)

> > NKP 97000-97999

> CGW 27000-27998 (SS, AC&F photo of 27904, lot 7504)
> Central Railroad Company of Pennsylvania 14000-14499 (Fowler-like,
> NEB&W web site)>
> ERIE 80995, 85000-85999 (SS or Fowler-like, MM, Apr. 1986)
>
> IC 11000-11344 (SS, 1927 IC equipment list – personal communication
> from Ray Breyer)
> ITC 8000-8199 (Fowler or Fowler-like, NEB&W web site)
> Chicago South Shore & South Bend R.R., 1501-1505 (Fowler or Fowler-
> like, NEB&W web site)

> NKP 97000-97999 (Former TStL&W 7000-7999, Fowler, MM, Apr. 1986)
> Pittsburg, Shawmut and Northern 9900-9949 (SS, personal communication from Ray Breyer)
> SB&M 1254-2050 (SS, NEB&W web site)
> WABASH 75000-77199 (SS 36' 5", Jan. 1938 ORER, p. 444, AC&F photos of 75699 and 76200, lots 6615 and 8063)
> WABASH 77200-78199 (SS 36' 5", Jan. 1938 ORER, p. 444)


Re: The bicycle is nice, but how about a steam era freight car for our Neo site picture

Tim O'Connor
 

Dennis

?? there is no "top" or "bottom" -- hence the term "cropped".

The "aspect ratio" is fixed, as far as I can tell. Exactly like Facebook. I think FB has influenced Wahoo's thought processes... The email groups are morphing into "social media". It is the way of things. :-)

Tim O'

At 9/26/2013 01:58 PM Thursday, you wrote:


Really? You might be able to scroll up and down to see the top and bottom of the image, but the rest of us can't, so it just looks like a poorly cropped partial photo. The image used needs to be cropped to the correct aspect ratio; Whahoo will then re-size it to fit the page.


Dennis


---In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, <stmfc@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Dennis when you upload the photo the web site lets you center it and
only then does it get cropped. I did this with one of Gene Deimling's
photos for the steamloco group and it turned out nicely IMO.

Tim O'


Re: The bicycle is nice, but how about a steam era freight car for our Neo site picture

Dennis Storzek
 

Really? You might be able to scroll up and down to see the top and bottom of the image, but the rest of us can't, so it just looks like a poorly cropped partial photo. The image used needs to be cropped to the correct aspect ratio; Whahoo  will then re-size it to fit the page.


Dennis



---In STMFC@..., <stmfc@...> wrote:

Dennis when you upload the photo the web site lets you center it and
only then does it get cropped. I did this with one of Gene Deimling's
photos for the steamloco group and it turned out nicely IMO.

Tim O'



>I agree, but the format for the "cover photo" is not a common size, although with its horizontal format, it does lend itself nicely to photos of railroad equipment. When I went looking through my image files for something to use on the SooLineHistory page, the only thing I found that would crop nicely to fit the space was a builder's photo of a three unit set of F-3's.
>
>
>How about everyone looking through their personal photos for an image that works at a 5:1 aspect ratio and offer it to Mike?
>
>
>Dennis Storzek
>
>
>---In STMFC@..., <stmfc@...> wrote:
>
>First thing our B&O moderator did to mollify this Neo affliction was replace it with a nice EM-1 (steam era and hauled a lot of freight cars) this morning. Forget this message if you have not yet experienced this superbug. At least a more appropriate picture would alleviate some of the discomfort.
>
>Dave Snyder
>Louisville, Ky.


Re: 36' Fowler/Dominion cars and "almosts"...

Benjamin Scanlon
 

Hullo Dennis

Thank you for that ... a good excuse to have a SOO car, always a nice thing ... and a composite sided granger car wouldn't look out of place.

The only Eastern s/s cars I could dig up (I found the xls of short boxcars in the files) were 14 NYS&W ones, which according to the spreadsheet were still around in 1959. This puzzles me as I thought theirs had been written off in 1951.

There were other Eastern 'short' boxcars (not necessarily 36') of the DL&W, D&H and RDG, but all were all double sheathed.

Cheers

Ben


Re: The bicycle is nice, but how about a steam era freight car for our Neo site picture

Tim O'Connor
 

Dennis when you upload the photo the web site lets you center it and
only then does it get cropped. I did this with one of Gene Deimling's
photos for the steamloco group and it turned out nicely IMO.

Tim O'

I agree, but the format for the "cover photo" is not a common size, although with its horizontal format, it does lend itself nicely to photos of railroad equipment. When I went looking through my image files for something to use on the SooLineHistory page, the only thing I found that would crop nicely to fit the space was a builder's photo of a three unit set of F-3's.


How about everyone looking through their personal photos for an image that works at a 5:1 aspect ratio and offer it to Mike?


Dennis Storzek


---In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, <stmfc@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

First thing our B&O moderator did to mollify this Neo affliction was replace it with a nice EM-1 (steam era and hauled a lot of freight cars) this morning. Forget this message if you have not yet experienced this superbug. At least a more appropriate picture would alleviate some of the discomfort.

Dave Snyder
Louisville, Ky.


Re: The bicycle is nice, but how about a steam era freight car for our Neo site picture

Jack Burgess
 

I cropped a photo of a train on a bridge to 10"x2.5" for the YVRR Yahoo chat list...

 

Jack Burgess


Re: The bicycle is nice, but how about a steam era freight car for our Neo site picture

davesnyder59
 

That's an aspect that didn't occur to me Dennis. I wonder if a full yard shot might work better. Even more STMFC. Just thinking.

Dave Snyder
Louisville, Ky.

 



---In STMFC@..., <stmfc@...> wrote:

I agree, but the format for the "cover photo" is not a common size, although with its horizontal format, it does lend itself nicely to photos of railroad equipment. When I went looking through my image files for something to use on the SooLineHistory page, the only thing I found that would crop nicely to fit the space was a builder's photo of a three unit set of F-3's.


How about everyone looking through their personal photos for an image that works at a 5:1 aspect ratio and offer it to Mike?


Dennis Storzek



---In STMFC@..., <stmfc@...> wrote:

First thing our B&O moderator did to mollify this Neo affliction was replace it with a nice EM-1 (steam era and hauled a lot of freight cars) this morning. Forget this message if you have not yet experienced this superbug. At least a more appropriate picture would alleviate some of the discomfort.

Dave Snyder
Louisville, Ky.


Re: The bicycle is nice, but how about a steam era freight car for our Neo site picture

Douglas Harding
 

Dennis for the MSTL list I used a company letterhead image, showing new F-Units in the green n yellow P/L scheme pulling an MSTL train. I have an older letterhead with a steam engine pulling boxcars, but it is black and white.

 

I would think any photo of a string of steam era freightcars cropped to fit would be appropriate. Esp a color image such as one of Delano’s Chicago freight yard images, showing a variety of boxcar red boxcars.

 

The process is very simple and I am surprised the moderators do not have that ability.

 

Doug Harding

www.iowacentralrr.org

 


Re: 36' Fowler/Dominion cars and "almosts"...

Dennis Storzek
 

The Soo Line (found alphabetized in steam era equipment registers under M) had one group of cars nearly identical to the Canadian cars, built in 1912. This was 750 cars, numbered 12800 - 14298, even numbers only. They were built with outside metal roofs having some sort of round seam caps, but in later years had roofs with twelve flat rectangular seam caps, counting those at the ends of the roof. Original trucks had Bettendorf T section sideframes, later changed to Andrews. It sounds like the only real difference is the door, the Soo cars were built with top supported wood doors which they retained throughout their entire lives. The January 1958 ORER shows 19 cars remaining; all were retired by January 1961

 



---In STMFC@..., <stmfc@...> wrote:

We have had another outbreak of Fowlerishness, or a bird of a slightly different feather, in the dominion of TT scale.

I am wondering if anyone can say whether a CPR Dominion 36' boxcar would be near enough to any of the cars pinpointed as being 36' s/s cars below?

The Dominion casting has 12 crosswise roof ribs, the first and last ribs flush with each end, and what looks to be a 5-5-5 steel door (I assume replacing a wood original.)

Aside from the ITC cars, which I believe existed in interchange service as late as 1961, were there other US owners of 36' cars who had them in interchange service through to the late 50s?

From what I can work out, 36' cars in the US were one of those things that were very common in one decade, ie, 1942 but almost gone a decade later.

I am told the NYSW ones made it to 1951.

I am hoping someone might be able to offer some advice on the characteristics (door type, roof, if possible number of ribs) on some of these 36' s/s cars.


regards, Benjamin



> Central Railroad Company of Pennsylvania 14000-14499 (Fowler-like,
> NEB&W web site)

> > BAR 9000-9699*, 9800-10399

> > New York, Susquehanna & Western 1500-1563*
> > Piedmont & Northern 12000-12074*

> > BAR 8100-8599, 8700-8799
> > CNJ 14000-14499 (drawing seems to suggest it)

> > CV 70731-71730, 71800-72049
> > DSS&A 11067-11569
> > NC&StL 24500-24599
> > SOO 28312+28456, 106600-107908, 108056-109908
> > M&StL 26000-26400
> > WAB 78000-78199 (read about these, are they 36' or 40'?)

> > B&M 12138-12258, 12301-12392, 64682-68247, 68317, 68333-68390

> > C&EI 37002-37748, 635-699

> > GM&O 43000-43299 (or were these SU cars?)

> > NKP 97000-97999

> CGW 27000-27998 (SS, AC&F photo of 27904, lot 7504)
> Central Railroad Company of Pennsylvania 14000-14499 (Fowler-like,
> NEB&W web site)>
> ERIE 80995, 85000-85999 (SS or Fowler-like, MM, Apr. 1986)
>
> IC 11000-11344 (SS, 1927 IC equipment list – personal communication
> from Ray Breyer)
> ITC 8000-8199 (Fowler or Fowler-like, NEB&W web site)
> Chicago South Shore & South Bend R.R., 1501-1505 (Fowler or Fowler-
> like, NEB&W web site)

> NKP 97000-97999 (Former TStL&W 7000-7999, Fowler, MM, Apr. 1986)
> Pittsburg, Shawmut and Northern 9900-9949 (SS, personal communication from Ray Breyer)
> SB&M 1254-2050 (SS, NEB&W web site)
> WABASH 75000-77199 (SS 36' 5", Jan. 1938 ORER, p. 444, AC&F photos of 75699 and 76200, lots 6615 and 8063)
> WABASH 77200-78199 (SS 36' 5", Jan. 1938 ORER, p. 444)
>


Re: The bicycle is nice, but how about a steam era freight car for our Neo site picture

Dennis Storzek
 

I agree, but the format for the "cover photo" is not a common size, although with its horizontal format, it does lend itself nicely to photos of railroad equipment. When I went looking through my image files for something to use on the SooLineHistory page, the only thing I found that would crop nicely to fit the space was a builder's photo of a three unit set of F-3's.


How about everyone looking through their personal photos for an image that works at a 5:1 aspect ratio and offer it to Mike?


Dennis Storzek



---In STMFC@..., <stmfc@...> wrote:

First thing our B&O moderator did to mollify this Neo affliction was replace it with a nice EM-1 (steam era and hauled a lot of freight cars) this morning. Forget this message if you have not yet experienced this superbug. At least a more appropriate picture would alleviate some of the discomfort.

Dave Snyder
Louisville, Ky.


Re: 36' Fowler/Dominion cars and "almosts"...

Benjamin Scanlon
 

We have had another outbreak of Fowlerishness, or a bird of a slightly different feather, in the dominion of TT scale.

I am wondering if anyone can say whether a CPR Dominion 36' boxcar would be near enough to any of the cars pinpointed as being 36' s/s cars below?

The Dominion casting has 12 crosswise roof ribs, the first and last ribs flush with each end, and what looks to be a 5-5-5 steel door (I assume replacing a wood original.)

Aside from the ITC cars, which I believe existed in interchange service as late as 1961, were there other US owners of 36' cars who had them in interchange service through to the late 50s?

From what I can work out, 36' cars in the US were one of those things that were very common in one decade, ie, 1942 but almost gone a decade later.

I am told the NYSW ones made it to 1951.

I am hoping someone might be able to offer some advice on the characteristics (door type, roof, if possible number of ribs) on some of these 36' s/s cars.


regards, Benjamin

Central Railroad Company of Pennsylvania 14000-14499 (Fowler-like,
NEB&W web site)
BAR 9000-9699*, 9800-10399
New York, Susquehanna & Western 1500-1563*
Piedmont & Northern 12000-12074*
BAR 8100-8599, 8700-8799
CNJ 14000-14499 (drawing seems to suggest it)
CV 70731-71730, 71800-72049
DSS&A 11067-11569
NC&StL 24500-24599
SOO 28312+28456, 106600-107908, 108056-109908
M&StL 26000-26400
WAB 78000-78199 (read about these, are they 36' or 40'?)
B&M 12138-12258, 12301-12392, 64682-68247, 68317, 68333-68390
C&EI 37002-37748, 635-699
GM&O 43000-43299 (or were these SU cars?)
NKP 97000-97999
CGW 27000-27998 (SS, AC&F photo of 27904, lot 7504)
Central Railroad Company of Pennsylvania 14000-14499 (Fowler-like,
NEB&W web site)>
ERIE 80995, 85000-85999 (SS or Fowler-like, MM, Apr. 1986)

IC 11000-11344 (SS, 1927 IC equipment list – personal communication
from Ray Breyer)
ITC 8000-8199 (Fowler or Fowler-like, NEB&W web site)
Chicago South Shore & South Bend R.R., 1501-1505 (Fowler or Fowler-
like, NEB&W web site)
NKP 97000-97999 (Former TStL&W 7000-7999, Fowler, MM, Apr. 1986)
Pittsburg, Shawmut and Northern 9900-9949 (SS, personal communication from Ray Breyer)
SB&M 1254-2050 (SS, NEB&W web site)
WABASH 75000-77199 (SS 36' 5", Jan. 1938 ORER, p. 444, AC&F photos of 75699 and 76200, lots 6615 and 8063)
WABASH 77200-78199 (SS 36' 5", Jan. 1938 ORER, p. 444)


added photos

paul.doggett2472@...
 

I have added 3 photos to the site two are Westerfields whilst the 3rd is a brass car that stared life as a Pennsy door and a half auto box which was incorrect. I took some advice from Martin Lofton and converted it to a Soo Line single door car.

Paul Doggett England 


Re: The bicycle is nice, but how about a steam era freight car for our Neo site picture

Aley, Jeff A
 

Only Mike Brock can change it.  It is beyond my power as Deputy Moderator to change the picture.

 

Regards,

 

-Jeff

 

 

From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] On Behalf Of davesnyder59@...
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 9:49 PM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: [STMFC] The bicycle is nice, but how about a steam era freight car for our Neo site picture

 

 

First thing our B&O moderator did to mollify this Neo affliction was replace it with a nice EM-1 (steam era and hauled a lot of freight cars) this morning. Forget this message if you have not yet experienced this superbug. At least a more appropriate picture would alleviate some of the discomfort.

Dave Snyder
Louisville, Ky.


The bicycle is nice, but how about a steam era freight car for our Neo site picture

davesnyder59
 

First thing our B&O moderator did to mollify this Neo affliction was replace it with a nice EM-1 (steam era and hauled a lot of freight cars) this morning. Forget this message if you have not yet experienced this superbug. At least a more appropriate picture would alleviate some of the discomfort.

Dave Snyder
Louisville, Ky.


Naperville RPM Op session and new cars

Ted Schnepf
 

Hello,

As in past years I will host a prototype operations based operating session on Sunday, October 20th from 9AM to 1PM, following the Naperville RPM meet. No experience is necessary.

To sign up, reserving your spot, change the subject line to Operating Session and contact me OFF LIST.

The layout will be open throughout the day for those wanting to visit. (I also host another operating session that evening, with some staging inbetween).

In the urethane department, I will have four new cars in the trading hall during the show. they are:

1. Lehigh Valley wrong way door XM with Duryea underframe
2. 1932 Seaboard Air Line B 6 steel XM
3. Wabash 40' door and a half single sheathed XA
4. Southern Pacific A-50-6, single sheathed, door and a half, XA

Some of these models are posted at my website and others are recent additions.

Ted

Rails Unlimited
Ted Schnepf
railsunl@sbcglobal.net
847-697-5353
126 Will Scarlet
Elgin, Ill. 60120
http://RailsUnlimited.ribbonrail.com/

Model Railroad Sales and Service with
a personal touch.
Books new and used. HO and O scales.
DCC supplies. O scale urethane cars.
Photos and darkroom services.
Checks, cash (0%) or credit (secure server at web site 5% added).


Re: Older Detail Associates #2203 nut/bolt/washers Wanted

O Fenton Wells
 

Bill, Tichy makes the NBW castings in different sizes, check their web site.
fenton Wells


On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 5:45 PM, Bill Welch <fgexbill@...> wrote:
 

Modeling colleagues


Recently in the middle of a project I realized that my stash of the Detail Associates #2203 nut/bolt/washers was completely depleted and ordered some replacements that arrived yesterday. When I opened the box I immediately noticed something was different. Instead of the usual gray styrene (occasionally black) they were a reddish-brown and there was not the usual gap in the middle of the sprue. There were also only 24 NBW's in each package instead of the accustomed 48 (a relic empty package indicates these once came 6 dozen to a packet). When I put my Opitvisor on I realized that the parts were actually Tichy's NBWs. Evidently Detail Associates dies have worn out. While the Tichy molding is pretty nice, it is slightly larger than the Detail Associates part and does not match what I have already used on the current project. The current #2203 packet has "24 each" printed next to the part number

I am hoping that someone in the group may have an older packet or two with the original part. Packets with "48/$2.00" or perhaps a different price are what I am looking for. They are most likely molded in gray styrene and less commonly black. The sprues have 24 NBWs with a noticeable gap dividing the NBWs into two groups of 12. Older packets may have 6 dozen printed on them.

If you have any of these you are willing to sell to me, please use my contact info below. If you email please do so off list.

Thank you!

Bill Welch
2225 Nursery Road; #20-104
Clearwater, FL 33764-7622




--
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Older Detail Associates #2203 nut/bolt/washers Wanted

Bill Welch
 

Modeling colleagues

Recently in the middle of a project I realized that my stash of the Detail Associates #2203 nut/bolt/washers was completely depleted and ordered some replacements that arrived yesterday. When I opened the box I immediately noticed something was different. Instead of the usual gray styrene (occasionally black) they were a reddish-brown and there was not the usual gap in the middle of the sprue. There were also only 24 NBW's in each package instead of the accustomed 48 (a relic empty package indicates these once came 6 dozen to a packet). When I put my Opitvisor on I realized that the parts were actually Tichy's NBWs. Evidently Detail Associates dies have worn out. While the Tichy molding is pretty nice, it is slightly larger than the Detail Associates part and does not match what I have already used on the current project. The current #2203 packet has "24 each" printed next to the part number

I am hoping that someone in the group may have an older packet or two with the original part. Packets with "48/$2.00" or perhaps a different price are what I am looking for. They are most likely molded in gray styrene and less commonly black. The sprues have 24 NBWs with a noticeable gap dividing the NBWs into two groups of 12. Older packets may have 6 dozen printed on them.

If you have any of these you are willing to sell to me, please use my contact info below. If you email please do so off list.

Thank you!

Bill Welch
2225 Nursery Road; #20-104
Clearwater, FL 33764-7622
727-470-9930

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