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Is there a double -sheathed, truss-rod box car with 7/7 "cavitated" ends

Richard Townsend
 

I'm looking for an HO model of a double -sheathed, truss-rod box car with 7/7 "cavitated" or convex-ribbed ends.  Does anyone know if such a model exists?  It's for a C&S standard gauge MOW car I want to add to my MOW train.

Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, Oregon


Re: CB&Q SS boxcars with composite ends & wood doors

Benjamin Hom
 

I wrote:
"Unfortunately, no models of the [CB&Q Class XM-21/XM-22] cars are available in HO scale."
 
Jon Pansius replied:
"Westerfield makes kits for the earlier XM-21 and XM-22..."
 
Jon, thanks for the reminder for the Westerfield kits - totally forgot that these were in the product line.
11851, XM-21/22 Box Car, Modern, Murphy Roof
11852, XM-23 Box Car, Modern, Hutchins Roof
https://id18538.securedata.net/westerfieldmodels.com/merchantmanager/index.php?cPath=119
 
 
Ben Hom


Re: CB&Q SS boxcars with composite ends & wood doors

Jonathan Pansius
 

The Burlington Route Historical Society put out a data sheet on the XM 25/26 boxcars some time ago (my copy is undated), you may still be able to get a copy from them.  These cars were 8'6" interior height cars, the Accurail kits represent 9' interior height cars.  The composite end kits are reasonable stand-ins for the SP B-50-13 (Hutchins roof version), though you will probably want to change the corner bracing, door hardware, ladders, etc..  The end bracing is a little off, so the end door you would construct will be too narrow.  Not as nice or accurate as the Sunshine kits (assuming you have some stashed away) but the one I built some years ago (with a radial roof) held up pretty well by itself. Similar roof replacements could model the other B-50-13 versions, or the B-50-11 (pre WWI) or B-50-14. The corrugated end body kits are close to the MKT boxcars converted from the 1923 door-and-a-half auto cars.  Bob's Photo has a print of MKT 77854.

Westerfield makes kits for the earlier XM-21 and XM-22, these may be a starting point for modeling the CNJ, WP and MEC cars, assuming Andrew is not developing those variants already . 

Jon Pansius


From: Benjamin Hom
To: "STMFC@..."
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 8:48 AM
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Re: CB&Q SS boxcars with composite ends & wood doors

 
Ben Scanlon asked:
"There are shots of what seems to be two series of CB&Q composite SS cars in the RMJ article on the Accurail cars.

http://www.trainlife.com/magazines/pages/144/10391/february-1993-page-17

132200 - 132249 - said to have been converted to stock cars in the 1930s, but another group with numbers in the 131000 series apparently weren't. This shot was from 1940.

http://www.trainlife.com/magazines/pages/144/10395/february-1993-page-21

They were quite low-slung for reasons I cannot fathom because the caption below the photo has gotten muddled up.

I am not sure if the Accurail one could be used to model this wagon, nor how long this series lasted in service. Any detail would be welcome."
 
CB&Q 130250-134250, Class XM-21, -22, and -23.  Link to Class XM-23 equipment diagram on the pay side of the RPI website:
http://railroad.union.rpi.edu/images/5/51/Rolling-stock_box-cars_40-foot-single-sheathed_bettendorf-types_xm-ss-bettendorf-cb%26q-class-diagram.jpg
 
These were 8 ft IH (XM-21/22) and 8 ft 1 in IH (XM-23) cars, a full foot shorter than the Accurail model.
http://www.accurail.com/accurail/art/4100/4101.jpg
 
I don't have my ORER CDs at work - one data point according to John Nehrich is 2,579 cars in service as of 1949.
 
Unfortunately, no models of these cars are available in HO scale.
 
 
Ben Hom 



Tahoe HO trucks, less wheelsets

Andy Carlson
 



Hello,

I have close to all of the Tahoe Model Works trucks available for purchase. Pairs of trucks, less wheels- are priced at $3.75/pair.

001 Dalman 2-level
002 Dalman 2-level w/ lateral motion device
003 Arch Bar 5'6" W.B.
004 Bettendorf Swing Motion Caboose
005 Barber-Bettendorf swing Motion Caboose
006 Buckeye spring plank
007 Double Truss
008 Coil-Elliptic
009 Barber Lateral Motion
010 70-ton A-3 ride control

I have Intermountain 33" wheelsets with code 110 (Fat) wheels. Add $3.00 for 4 sets (enough for one pair of trucks.
I have only a few of the Intermountain 33" code 88 semi-scale wheelsets. Also $3.00/set.

I accept checks and money orders. For a small fee I can accept PayPal. If interested, please contact me off-list Shipping of $2.75+ per order by 1st class mail.

Thanks,
-Andy Carlson
Ojai CA



Re: CB&Q SS boxcars with composite ends & wood doors

Benjamin Hom
 

Ben Scanlon asked:
"There are shots of what seems to be two series of CB&Q composite SS cars in the RMJ article on the Accurail cars.

http://www.trainlife.com/magazines/pages/144/10391/february-1993-page-17

132200 - 132249 - said to have been converted to stock cars in the 1930s, but another group with numbers in the 131000 series apparently weren't. This shot was from 1940.

http://www.trainlife.com/magazines/pages/144/10395/february-1993-page-21

They were quite low-slung for reasons I cannot fathom because the caption below the photo has gotten muddled up.

I am not sure if the Accurail one could be used to model this wagon, nor how long this series lasted in service. Any detail would be welcome."
 
CB&Q 130250-134250, Class XM-21, -22, and -23.  Link to Class XM-23 equipment diagram on the pay side of the RPI website:
http://railroad.union.rpi.edu/images/5/51/Rolling-stock_box-cars_40-foot-single-sheathed_bettendorf-types_xm-ss-bettendorf-cb%26q-class-diagram.jpg
 
These were 8 ft IH (XM-21/22) and 8 ft 1 in IH (XM-23) cars, a full foot shorter than the Accurail model.
http://www.accurail.com/accurail/art/4100/4101.jpg
 
I don't have my ORER CDs at work - one data point according to John Nehrich is 2,579 cars in service as of 1949.
 
Unfortunately, no models of these cars are available in HO scale.
 
 
Ben Hom


Re: Bowser PRR H30

Eric Mumper
 

Rich,

In the "teach a man to fish" category, I had forgotten about the great PRR site you listed and my first search only turned up the truck drawings, but the second time found a very obvious page at:
http://prr.railfan.net/freight/classpage.html?class=H30
which shows truck type by car number. It appears that all the cars Bowser did in the CK scheme should have 2E-F2 Crown trucks which they sell as stock number 74091. I had to drill out the bolster and they take 1.035" Reboxx wheels.

As an aside, we now have a third supplier of 70T ASF A-3 trucks. These are not quite as nice as the Tahoe trucks, but an option nonetheless.

Eric Mumper

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, SUVCWORR@... wrote:

In the 1950 list of PRR trucks PRR tracing C422800-E the following were used on the H30

2E-F2A Crown with Andrews steel cast frame 5'10 axle spacing C-E spring pack

2E-F10 double truss s.c. 5'8 C-E spring pack

2E-F11 National s.c. 5'6 C-5E spring pack

2E-F12 Young s.c. 5'8 C-5E springs

2E-F14 National s.c. 5'6 C-5E springs

2E-F15 Young s.c. 5'8 C-5E springs

2E-F22 ASF A-3 ride control 5'8 C spring pack

The ASF A-3 is accurate

For more information on PRR trucks see http://prr.railfan.net/freight/PRRFreightCarTrucks.html


Rich Orr









-----Original Message-----
From: mumpseee <eric.mumper@...>
To: STMFC <STMFC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sat, Sep 7, 2013 1:01 pm
Subject: [STMFC] Bowser PRR H30


Group,

Just received the new Bowser PRR H30 cars. Very nice. Will leave accuracy
comments to those who know although I did peruse TKM 8 since I see what appears
to be an issue. The model is 254266 showing New 5-35 in the CK scheme. I model
October, 1954 and will do the appropriate reweigh date. The trucks are ASF A-3.
These would not have been the original trucks from what I can tell. Anybody
know what trucks should be under this car? Thanks.

Eric Mumper
eric.mumper@...


Re: Need Jerry Glow decals to finish Southern flat cars

Tim O'Connor
 

Most people can be found easily -- this is our Jerry:
http://www.switchboard.com/name/Gerald-T-Glow/The-Villages-FL/12dpxif

I've gotten decals from Jerry more than once, including custom decals.

Tim O'Connor



Okay, can Brad or anyone provide a phone number for Jerry Glow?
I uncomfortable posting it, please send it to me in a private response.
allencain@comcast.net
Allen Cain


Re: Floods in Colorado

Tim O'Connor
 

yep

A bunch of vendors now use Facebook to post news & info -- Intermountain
even posted a link to a helicopter video of Longmont that passed over their
offices.

Tim O'

Check out InterMountain's website and their Facebook link. They got wet but are OK.
> Brian Leppert
> Carson City, NV


Re: CB&Q SS boxcars with composite ends & wood doors

Benjamin Scanlon
 

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, Benjamin Hom <b.hom@...> wrote:

I wrote:
"Other prototypes of the Z-section truss cars with composite ends include CB&Q,
CNJ, MEC, SP/T&NO, and VGN, though these prototypes differ in detail."

There are shots of what seems to be two series of CB&Q composite SS cars in the RMJ article on the Accurail cars.

http://www.trainlife.com/magazines/pages/144/10391/february-1993-page-17

132200 - 132249 - said to have been converted to stock cars in the 1930s, but another group with numbers in the 131000 series apparently weren't. This shot was from 1940.

http://www.trainlife.com/magazines/pages/144/10395/february-1993-page-21

They were quite low-slung for reasons I cannot fathom because the caption below the photo has gotten muddled up.

I am not sure if the Accurail one could be used to model this wagon, nor how long this series lasted in service. Any detail would be welcome.

Benjamin


Gerry Glow status and thread is now terminated

Mikebrock
 

Guys,
Obviously, there have been quite a few messages concerning "slow" or no responses from Gerry Glow concerning decals that various members of the STMFC have ordered. Given this, I sent the following message to Gerry on May 15,2013:

"Gerry,
The STMFC is getting cluttered up with messages about your very slow
responses to orders. If you are having problems, let me know and I'll pass
that on to the group. That way they will know exactly what kind of delays
are possible. The group's rules prohibit messages about a manufacturer's
business practices. However, I, as group owner, am obligated to inform the
group about problems a manufacturer may be having. If the seemingly slow
responses are predictable, those ordering should not be so concerned. Much
better that than having people wonder if you are still in business. I'll be
glad to communicate to the members what your situation is."

As far as I know, Gerry has not responded to my message. Given that, I would suggest that the age old statement "Caveat emptor" or "Let the buyer beware" probably applies.

If anyone on the STMFC hears from or is in communication with Gerry, it would be useful for them to tell Gerry that he should contact me.

And, with that in mind, the thread about Gerry Glow is now terminated on the STMFC. As I mentioned above, however, a thread OFF the STMFC regarding Gerry is NOT terminated and I would appreciate receiving any information available about Gerry and possible problems he might be having.

Mike Brock
STMFC Owner


Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Re: nice new image on pitt site (UNCLASSIFIED)

Derrick Brashear <shadow@...>
 

No cars on the Rankin Bridge, which probably means it was almost done. It was basically done by April 30, 1951 but didn't open until May.

       http://bit.ly/19i7JfF                                                   

The P&LE archive finding aid, page 227, has pictures from an accident taken 4/29/51 with a Buick sedan having been hit and what I presume was a casualty, which I guess would have
to be behind the photographer, but it seems like this would have to be the accident Mr Slantis shot.

http://ple.dementix.org/research/P-LE-AIS-Photo-List.pdf






On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 9:51 PM, Derrick Brashear <shadow@...> wrote:
New and old Rankin bridges (a.k.a. West Braddock Bridge), which makes it circa 1951. That should be the P&LE since it's the Braddock side (the West Braddock Bridge was downstream) and it's on the riverbank not further inland like the B&O was.


On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 5:35 PM, Gatwood, Elden SAW <elden.j.gatwood@...> wrote:
 

Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
Caveats: NONE

Ah HAA! Here's another one!

http://images.library.pitt.edu/cgi-bin/i/image/image-idx?rgn1=ic_all;op2=And;rgn2=ic_all;xc=1;g=imls;sort=dc_da;q1=paul%20slantis;size=20;c=hpicasc;c=hpicchatham;c=hpiccma;c=hpichswp;c=hpicmonroeville;c=hpicnpl;c=hpicoakmont;c=hpicphlf;c=hpicpitcairn;c=hpicpointpark;c=hpicrsc;c=hpicusc;back=back1379540344;subview=detail;resnum=346;view=entry;lastview=thumbnail;cc=hpicasc;entryid=x-000409.pic;viewid=000409PIC.TIF

What make and model are those freight cars?

Location? (Hint: Does that look like a bridge in Pittsburgh?)

What is that load?



Elden Gatwood

-----Original Message-----
From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] On Behalf Of Derrick Brashear
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 5:02 PM
To: STMFC list
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [STMFC] Re: nice new image on pitt site (UNCLASSIFIED)

Wild guess. March 23, 1951.

http://glo.bmwe.org/awards/3d/pdf/3-07242.pdf

On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 2:42 PM, Gatwood, Elden SAW <elden.j.gatwood@...> wrote:




Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
Caveats: NONE

Hi all;

Found this on the Pitt site and was wondering if any of you can add additional info on the cars involved:

http://images.library.pitt.edu/cgi-bin/i/image/image-idx?rgn1=ic_all;op2=And;rgn2=ic_all;xc=1;g=imls;sort=dc_da;q1=railroad;size=20;c=hpicasc;c=hpicchatham;c=hpiccma;c=hpichswp;c=hpicmonroeville;c=hpicnpl;c=hpicoakmont;c=hpicphlf;c=hpicpitcairn;c=hpicpointpark;c=hpicrsc;c=hpicusc;back=back1375119487;subview=detail;resnum=4371;view=entry;lastview=thumbnail;cc=hpicasc;entryid=x-000411.pic;viewid=000411PIC.TIF

This train was going "my way", and I think I know, generally, what each car was up to, but I would like your views on each car, if you know then well.

Thanks!

Elden Gatwood

Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
Caveats: NONE



--
Derrick

Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
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--
Derrick



--
Derrick


Re: The Pig Pancreas Train

midrly
 

I heard of a derailment on the Soo Line that involved a reefer full of--cadavers.

The first question that the trainmaster (who later related the story to us) was asked over the phone by the crew was "What should we do with the bodies?"

Steve Lucas.

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "Douglas Harding" <doug.harding@...> wrote:

Don't have photos of a train wreck, closest I have is a wrecked meat reefer
filled with meat. But here is an article with photos about a truck wreck,
which should give you a good idea of the scenery/weathering that would be
needed
http://sobac.com/~stopthestink/2012/04/spill-leads-to-questions-about-truck-
traffic/



Doug Harding

www.iowacentralrr.org


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Re: CNJ SS boxcars with composite ends & doors

Benjamin Scanlon
 

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, Benjamin Hom <b.hom@...> wrote:

Ben Scanlon asked:
"It's commented that the CNJ had Z section truss cars with composite ends. I have found a 2003 RailModel Journal article on some cars that may be these ones, the XMd and XMe boxcars.  The plans in there are not scanned well and one cannot see the height data.

I wanted to ascertain the inner height of the CNJ cars as I am told that the Accurail car is too tall by the order of 7-12".
 
Can anyone please confirm the height of the CNJ composite Z section truss cars?"
 
Article from the February 2003 issue of Railmodel Journal:
http://www.trainlife.com/magazines/pages/168/12176/february-2003-page-22
 
The CNJ 17000-17499 cars represented by the equipment diagram in the article were 8 ft 2 in IH cars, making them 10" shorter than the Accurail model.  Be advised that CNJ did own true USRA SS boxcars, and referring to their other boxcars as "USRA boxcars" is misleading and incorrect.
 
 
Ben Hom

Thank you. I believe I did not so refer to them. Not this time around, anyroad. I only point out that out as I took care not to, having had my fingers burnt in the past.

Ben


CNJ USRA SS boxcars

Larry Kline
 

I misread Ben's message where he correctly said that CNJ DID OWN  true USRA boxcars. Sorry Ben.

Larry Kline
Pittsburgh, PA

Begin forwarded message:

From: Larry Kline <lndkline@...>
Date: September 19, 2013 10:26:21 AM EDT
To: STMFC list <STMFC@...>
Subject: CNJ USRA SS boxcars

Ben,

You're forgetting the class CNJ XMf 20000-20499 series built by ACF Madison in 1919. They are listed in the Lane roster in Railroad History No 128, the CNJ diagram calls them USRA design, and I have a nice Al Armitage photo of 20379 from Ron Morse.

Larry Kline
Pittsburgh, PA

Ben Hom wrote:
Be advised that CNJ did own true USRA SS boxcars, and referring to their other boxcars as "USRA boxcars" is misleading and incorrect.





CNJ USRA SS boxcars

Larry Kline
 

Ben,

You're forgetting the class CNJ XMf 20000-20499 series built by ACF Madison in 1919. They are listed in the Lane roster in Railroad History No 128, the CNJ diagram calls them USRA design, and I have a nice Al Armitage photo of 20379 from Ron Morse.

Larry Kline
Pittsburgh, PA

Ben Hom wrote:
Be advised that CNJ did own true USRA SS boxcars, and referring to their other boxcars as "USRA boxcars" is misleading and incorrect.


Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Re: nice new image on pitt site (UNCLASSIFIED)

Dennis Williams
 

That is not the old Rankin bridge (black bridge in background) that is the bridge between carrie furnance and the homestead works
Light colored is the current Rankin bridge. Dennis

------------------------------

On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 6:51 PM PDT Derrick Brashear wrote:

New and old Rankin bridges (a.k.a. West Braddock Bridge), which makes it
circa 1951. That should be the P&LE since it's the Braddock side (the West
Braddock Bridge was downstream) and it's on the riverbank not further
inland like the B&O was.


On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 5:35 PM, Gatwood, Elden SAW <
elden.j.gatwood@usace.army.mil> wrote:

**


Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
Caveats: NONE

Ah HAA! Here's another one!


http://images.library.pitt.edu/cgi-bin/i/image/image-idx?rgn1=ic_all;op2=And;rgn2=ic_all;xc=1;g=imls;sort=dc_da;q1=paul%20slantis;size=20;c=hpicasc;c=hpicchatham;c=hpiccma;c=hpichswp;c=hpicmonroeville;c=hpicnpl;c=hpicoakmont;c=hpicphlf;c=hpicpitcairn;c=hpicpointpark;c=hpicrsc;c=hpicusc;back=back1379540344;subview=detail;resnum=346;view=entry;lastview=thumbnail;cc=hpicasc;entryid=x-000409.pic;viewid=000409PIC.TIF

What make and model are those freight cars?

Location? (Hint: Does that look like a bridge in Pittsburgh?)

What is that load?


Elden Gatwood

-----Original Message-----
From: STMFC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:STMFC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Derrick Brashear
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 5:02 PM
To: STMFC list
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [STMFC] Re: nice new image on pitt site
(UNCLASSIFIED)

Wild guess. March 23, 1951.

http://glo.bmwe.org/awards/3d/pdf/3-07242.pdf

On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 2:42 PM, Gatwood, Elden SAW <
elden.j.gatwood@usace.army.mil> wrote:




Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
Caveats: NONE

Hi all;

Found this on the Pitt site and was wondering if any of you can add
additional info on the cars involved:


http://images.library.pitt.edu/cgi-bin/i/image/image-idx?rgn1=ic_all;op2=And;rgn2=ic_all;xc=1;g=imls;sort=dc_da;q1=railroad;size=20;c=hpicasc;c=hpicchatham;c=hpiccma;c=hpichswp;c=hpicmonroeville;c=hpicnpl;c=hpicoakmont;c=hpicphlf;c=hpicpitcairn;c=hpicpointpark;c=hpicrsc;c=hpicusc;back=back1375119487;subview=detail;resnum=4371;view=entry;lastview=thumbnail;cc=hpicasc;entryid=x-000411.pic;viewid=000411PIC.TIF

This train was going "my way", and I think I know, generally, what each
car was up to, but I would like your views on each car, if you know then
well.

Thanks!

Elden Gatwood

Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
Caveats: NONE



--
Derrick

Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
Caveats: NONE




--
Derrick


CNJ SS boxcars with composite ends & doors

Benjamin Hom
 

Ben Scanlon asked:
"It's commented that the CNJ had Z section truss cars with composite ends. I have found a 2003 RailModel Journal article on some cars that may be these ones, the XMd and XMe boxcars.  The plans in there are not scanned well and one cannot see the height data.

I wanted to ascertain the inner height of the CNJ cars as I am told that the Accurail car is too tall by the order of 7-12".
 
Can anyone please confirm the height of the CNJ composite Z section truss cars?"
 
Article from the February 2003 issue of Railmodel Journal:
http://www.trainlife.com/magazines/pages/168/12176/february-2003-page-22
 
The CNJ 17000-17499 cars represented by the equipment diagram in the article were 8 ft 2 in IH cars, making them 10" shorter than the Accurail model.  Be advised that CNJ did own true USRA SS boxcars, and referring to their other boxcars as "USRA boxcars" is misleading and incorrect.
 
 
Ben Hom


Re: USRA SS boxcars with composite ends & doors

Benjamin Scanlon
 

I am sorry to drag up an old thread.  It's commented that the CNJ had Z section truss cars with composite ends. I have found a 2003 RailModel Journal article on some cars that may be these ones, the XMd and XMe boxcars.  The plans in there are not scanned well and one cannot see the height data.


I wanted to ascertain the inner height of the CNJ cars as I am told that the Accurail car is too tall by the order of 7-12".


Can anyone please confirm the height of the CNJ composite Z section truss cars?


Regards, Ben 



--- In STMFC@..., <stmfc@...> wrote:

Ben Hom wrote:
> The statement "composite ends was a variation limited to canadian roads" is untrue. Other prototypes of the Z-section truss cars with composite ends include CB&Q, CNJ, MEC, SP/T&NO, and VGN, though these prototypes differ in detail.

Speaking only for the SP/T&NO cars, "differ in detail" is quite an understatement. SP evidently was unimpressed with the USRA box cars it received, because the following orders for 7000 cars not only went to Z-bar bracing but differed in virtually every mechanical detail from the USRA design. SP even increased the inside height. Well, yeah, they were 40 feet long and were single-sheathed with composite ends . . . and maybe in TT scale that's as far as you would want to go . . . but in the case of the SP/T&NO cars, they were NOT much like the USRA cars.

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Re: Conoco Tank Cars

SHAY STARK
 

Frank,

Thank you for taking the time to look this information up. This is looking very promising as the 8000 gal. tank on the AFC type 27 car is 33' 3 1/8" long and 78" I.D. I will order the materials and see how this turns out.

Thanks again,

Shay Stark

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, FRANK PEACOCK <frank3112@...> wrote:

Shay, My SCCCo. book from 1919 (STCCo. by 1921?) lists the 8000 gal. tank as 33'-1 1/16" over the heads. Running boards were 9'-3 1/4" x 35'-5". Specs. for the 8050 gal. tank are 78" ID and I couldn't find the dome ID. It just said that it should be "not less than three per cent of the volume of the tank." The bottom sheet is listed at 31'-10 1/4". FHP (Frank H Peacock)

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